Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/25/10


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 11:15 AM - Re: Real Progress! (Michael Perez)
     2. 11:25 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank (Clif Dawson)
     3. 12:35 PM -  fuel tank (Dave Abramson)
     4. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: California Pietenpol Gathering (Gary Boothe)
     5. 01:35 PM - dropping things (Clif Dawson)
     6. 02:29 PM - The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Dave Abramson)
     7. 04:53 PM - Re: Long fuselage in tube and fabric? (regchief)
     8. 05:36 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     9. 05:44 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Wayne Bressler)
    10. 06:28 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Ryan Mueller)
    11. 07:06 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (John Hofmann)
    12. 07:33 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Wayne Bressler)
    13. 10:24 PM - Re: Real Progress! (GliderMike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:15:19 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Real Progress!
    BRING IT!- "You've- taken your first step into a larger world." -


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    Time: 11:25:07 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: fuel tank
    OK, That's different. The original message said nothing about rivets. Clif > > I don't think Raymond is proposing to use just solder - the tank > should be riveted together and the solder only used as the sealant. > Dan >> Soft solder is NOT a structuraly sound material. >> It's one thing to solder a copper water pipe. It's >> completely another to soft solder the joints in a fuel >> tank.


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    Time: 12:35:34 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
    Subject: fuel tank
    Hello Folks! The Sprit Of St. Louis" had a riveted / soldered fuel tank! That was one BIG #@& fuel tank! (well, the main tank anyway) Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lawrence Williams Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:42 PM To: Pietlist Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuel tank I have been flying with my riveted/soldered galvanized tank for about 8 years. I got the theory from Ed Sampson while sitting under a tree at a B'head reunion in about 1999 and it works very well. I wrote an article about it and even mailed out a bunch of plans and instructions to those who asked. There is no mystery to doing things the old fashioned way except to those who are caught up in thinking that the latest technology or their own theories just have to be better than the way the pioneers did it. If you email me off-list, I'll try to locate some of the sheets that I wrote back then and get them to you.....or just give me a call! I can walk you through the process verbally 'cuz it ain't rocket science and you won't need a video unless you're under 30. Larry W.


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    Time: 12:35:34 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: California Pietenpol Gathering
    Ray, A few of us are spending the night, but not sure if we are hanging out much longer than to witness any departures. If the weather is good, maybe there will be some Piets flying about. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: California Pietenpol Gathering Will anyone be staying over for Sunday, June 6? It is possible that I cold be there for Sunday. Ray Krause ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <jimboyer@hughes.net> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: California Pietenpol Gathering > > > Hi Ray, > We will miss you at the Piet gathering. Was close to your area this > weekend; my grand-daughter graduated from Chico Saturday. > Keep that Wiex (sp) flying but of course keep on with the Piet. > Jim B. > > Jim Boyer > Santa Rosa, CA > Pietenpol on wheels > Tail surfaces done > Wing ribs done > Corvair engine > > > On May 23, 2010, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > Mike, Unfortunately I will not be attending the flyin this Saturday, June > 5. Too many commitments. Maybe next time. Ray Krause > ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Groah To: > pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:09 PMSubject: > Pietenpol-List: California Pietenpol Gathering > Hello everyone, > > It's now just two and a half weeks away from the Pietenpol gathering at > Frazier Lake California (a nice grass strip). I just thought I'd send out > a reminder and get people thinking about it again. If you've said you're > coming then I already have that in my notes. If you're coming and you > haven't let Charlie or myself know, then please do. It's not mandatory > that you let us know you're coming, but it would be nice for planning > purposes. Charlie Miller (our host) and my phone numbers are also on the > info sheet; see attached pdf file. I'm looking forward to seeing others > who are crazy about Pietenpols. Bring your Pietenpol, or construction > photo album to share with everyone! > > > Mike Groah > > Do Not Archive > > >


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    Time: 01:35:24 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: dropping things
    Toilet paper, shmoylet paper. Next big thing at Broadhead? :-) http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6496749n&tag=related%3Bphotovi deo Clif


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    Time: 02:29:08 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
    Subject: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
    HELLO EVERYONE! HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER" IT'S ALIVE AND WELL! DAVE Subject: Standard J-1 progress Yesterday and today pictures will fly sometime next week if it stops raining


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    Time: 04:53:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Long fuselage in tube and fabric?
    From: "regchief" <kbosley@comcast.net>
    I found this post in the archives and saw no response to the request to see the plans drawn up by the builder of the long steel fuse. I would be interested in taking a look at them myself, if they are available Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298874#298874


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    Time: 05:36:23 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
    cant be, I didn't hear any music do not archive John In a message dated 5/25/2010 5:31:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, davea@symbolicdisplays.com writes: HELLO EVERYONE! HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER" IT'S ALIVE AND WELL! DAVE Subject: Standard J-1 progress Yesterday and today pictures will fly sometime next week if it stops raining


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    Time: 05:44:43 PM PST US
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    Subject: Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
    Dave, Where did you get these photos? I've only seen two of this airplane on Don Parson's facebook page. He hasn't even posted them to his blog yet. It's not a Jenny. The Jenny was a DeHavilland, this is a Standard. From my limited understanding, it's noticeably larger than a Jenny. I think I'm correct about that, but I've been wrong before. :) Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com On May 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com> wrote: > HELLO EVERYONE! > > HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER" > > IT'S ALIVE AND WELL! > > DAVE > > Subject: Standard J-1 progress > >> Yesterday and today pictures >> will fly sometime next week if it stops raining > >> <IMG_4613emai.jpg> > >> <IMG_4614email.jpg> > >> <IMG_4616emai.jpg> > >> <IMG_4622emai.jpg> > >> <IMG_4624emai.jpg> > >> <IMG_4625email.jpg> >


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    Time: 06:28:31 PM PST US
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
    You are correct, it is not a Jenny. It is a Standard J-1; that was even in the subject line of his email. :P The Jenny, however, was not made by DeHavilland; DeHavilland didn't even exist as a company yet. The Jenny (or JN series) was built by the Curtiss Aeroplane Company of Hammondsport, NY. Ryan Sent from my iPad On May 25, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com> wrote: > Dave, > > Where did you get these photos? I've only seen two of this airplane on Don Parson's facebook page. He hasn't even posted them to his blog yet. > > It's not a Jenny. The Jenny was a DeHavilland, this is a Standard. =46rom my limited understanding, it's noticeably larger than a Jenny. I think I'm correct about that, but I've been wrong before. :) > > Wayne Bressler Jr. > Taildraggers, Inc. > taildraggersinc.com > > On May 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com> wrote: > >> HELLO EVERYONE! >> >> HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER" >> >> IT'S ALIVE AND WELL! >> >> DAVE >> >> Subject: Standard J-1 progress >> >>> Yesterday and today pictures >>> will fly sometime next week if it stops raining >> >>> <IMG_4613emai.jpg> >> >>> <IMG_4614email.jpg> >> >>> <IMG_4616emai.jpg> >> >>> <IMG_4622emai.jpg> >> >>> <IMG_4624emai.jpg> >> >>> <IMG_4625email.jpg> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:06:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    All I know is Some people would say that what you are about to see, is probably the greatest exhibition of aeronautical skill in the history of world. I myself, wouldnt go that far. It is probably only the greatest since the invention of the aeroplane. do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On May 25, 2010, at 7:26 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote: > cant be, I didn't hear any music > > do not archive > > John > > In a message dated 5/25/2010 5:31:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, davea@symbolicdisplays.com writes: > HELLO EVERYONE! > > HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER" > > IT'S ALIVE AND WELL! > > DAVE > > Subject: Standard J-1 progress > >> Yesterday and today pictures >> will fly sometime next week if it stops raining >> <IMG_4613emai.jpg> >> <IMG_4614email.jpg> >> <IMG_4616emai.jpg> >> <IMG_4622emai.jpg> >> <IMG_4624emai.jpg> >> <IMG_4625email.jpg>


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    Time: 07:33:54 PM PST US
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    Subject: Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
    Ryan, Thank you for the correction. I had a feeling that was wrong as I was typing it. I try to be accurate, but we all make mistakes. My face is genuinely red right now, though... Okay, so Curtiss made the Jenny, Waldo's plane was a Standard, and DeHavilland made the Tiger Moth? I'm honestly embarassed that I goofed that up. Do not archive Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com On May 25, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote: > You are correct, it is not a Jenny. It is a Standard J-1; that was > even in the subject line of his email. :P > > The Jenny, however, was not made by DeHavilland; DeHavilland didn't > even exist as a company yet. The Jenny (or JN series) was built by > the Curtiss Aeroplane Company of Hammondsport, NY. > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 25, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Wayne Bressler > <wayne@taildraggersinc.com> wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Where did you get these photos? I've only seen two of this >> airplane on Don Parson's facebook page. He hasn't even posted them >> to his blog yet. >> >> It's not a Jenny. The Jenny was a DeHavilland, this is a >> Standard. From my limited understanding, it's noticeably larger >> than a Jenny. I think I'm correct about that, but I've been wrong >> before. :) >> >> Wayne Bressler Jr. >> Taildraggers, Inc. >> taildraggersinc.com >> >> On May 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com >> > wrote: >> >>> HELLO EVERYONE! >>> >>> HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER" >>> >>> IT'S ALIVE AND WELL! >>> >>> DAVE >>> >>> Subject: Standard J-1 progress >>> >>>> Yesterday and today pictures >>>> will fly sometime next week if it stops raining >>> >>>> <IMG_4613emai.jpg> >>> >>>> <IMG_4614email.jpg> >>> >>>> <IMG_4616emai.jpg> >>> >>>> <IMG_4622emai.jpg> >>> >>>> <IMG_4624emai.jpg> >>> >>>> <IMG_4625email.jpg> >>> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > >


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    Time: 10:24:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Real Progress!
    From: "GliderMike" <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
    Gary, my plans aren't here yet, so I want to know how many ribs there are supposed to be when they are all done. do not archive -------- Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298892#298892




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