Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:36 AM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Mike Tunnicliffe)
2. 12:56 AM - Fuselage Ply (bubbleboy)
3. 04:04 AM - Re: Re: Real Progress! (Gary Boothe)
4. 05:11 AM - New Piet in Indiana (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 05:35 AM - Re: Fuselage Ply (Ben Charvet)
6. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: Real Progress! (Ryan Mueller)
7. 05:44 AM - Re: Fuselage Ply (bubbleboy)
8. 05:48 AM - Re: Fuselage Ply (Bill Church)
9. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Real Progress! (Michael Perez)
10. 06:14 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage Ply (Michael Perez)
11. 06:48 AM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Jeff Boatright)
12. 07:32 AM - Re: dropping things (flea)
13. 07:37 AM - Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Jeff wilson)
14. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: dropping things (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
15. 07:59 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Ryan Mueller)
16. 08:22 AM - OT - Boeing 40 and 787 Dreamliner Air-to-Air Photos (wayne@taildraggersinc.com)
17. 09:00 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (gcardinal@comcast.net)
18. 09:30 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (GliderMike)
19. 09:38 AM - Re: OT - Boeing 40 and 787 Dreamliner Air-to-Air Photos (GliderMike)
20. 10:05 AM - The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Dave Abramson)
21. 10:26 AM - Sad News GN-1 Fatal Crash (Jack)
22. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage Ply (Rick Holland)
23. 10:42 AM - Re: Sad News GN-1 Fatal Crash (Tim Willis)
24. 10:44 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Rick Holland)
25. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage Ply (Ben Charvet)
26. 10:53 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Ben Charvet)
27. 10:58 AM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (BYD)
28. 10:59 AM - Larry Williams' fuel tank (santiago morete)
29. 11:04 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Dave Abramson)
30. 11:38 AM - Re: Larry Williams' fuel tank (Gary Boothe)
31. 11:39 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Tim Willis)
32. 11:39 AM - Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory (Rick Holland)
33. 02:42 PM - Re: Fuselage Ply (bubbleboy)
34. 03:21 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress (Mike Tunnicliffe)
35. 03:59 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress ()
36. 06:20 PM - 1667 strut (santiago morete)
37. 06:38 PM - 1667 strut (santiago morete)
38. 07:08 PM - Re: Larry Williams' fuel tank (helspersew@aol.com)
39. 09:04 PM - Ohio Pietenpol Gathering (shad bell)
40. 09:12 PM - Adverse Yaw (shad bell)
41. 09:15 PM - Re: 1667 strut exelente (jorge lizarraga)
42. 10:07 PM - Re: Larry Williams' fuel tank perfect (jorge lizarraga)
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| Subject: | Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress |
The first De Havilland aircraft (DH1) was completed in 1910, 95 percent
of America's wartime aircraft production (WW1) were designed by
DeHavilland, the company was formed in 1920,
Regards Mike T, flying a Jodel, restoring a DH98, and building an
Aircamper, to 1929 drawings, fuse and eppenage done, wing to be
assembled, currently working on external combustion powerplant for the
above Piet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1
progress
You are correct, it is not a Jenny. It is a Standard J-1; that was
even in the subject line of his email. :P
The Jenny, however, was not made by DeHavilland; DeHavilland didn't
even exist as a company yet. The Jenny (or JN series) was built by the
Curtiss Aeroplane Company of Hammondsport, NY.
Ryan
Sent from my iPad
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Hi Guys...I am about to order my plywood for the Fuselage. Can someone confirm
I have this right please?
Floor is 1/4 inch.
Instrument panels, seat backs etc and gussets are 1/8 inch
Firewall is 1/8 inch although I found some in the Archives used 1/4 inch.
I am struggling to find what thickness to use on the side sheets. It looks like
7/32 or something on the plan. Its very blurred. Can I use 1/8 or what is it
meant to be?
Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298897#298897
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| Subject: | Re: Real Progress! |
Mike,
Geez...must be a 1,000 or more...! No, wait, 3-piece wing takes 30 ribs.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GliderMike
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Real Progress!
Gary, my plans aren't here yet, so I want to know how many ribs there are
supposed to be when they are all done.
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | New Piet in Indiana |
Visited a nice project yesterday, and its' builder, Larry Moreland. It was
a thoroughly enjoyable experience, plus Larry gave me a tour of Columbus,
Indiana, home of Cummins Diesel. Great town, stop by if you're ever in the
area, just south of Indy.
Great plane, looks like he'll be up and running soon. Ford powered, Jenny
Gear, one piece wing. Very nice.
Thanks Larry!
"... A monoplane?... you're building me a monoplane!!?.."
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
I used 1 sheet of 1/4 inch, 2 sheets of 1/8 inch, and 1 sheet of 1/16
(for the leading edge of wing). If you are having it shipped, it
probably makes sense to get it all at once.
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
On 5/26/2010 3:55 AM, bubbleboy wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bubbleboy"<scott.dawson@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Hi Guys...I am about to order my plywood for the Fuselage. Can someone confirm
I have this right please?
>
> Floor is 1/4 inch.
> Instrument panels, seat backs etc and gussets are 1/8 inch
> Firewall is 1/8 inch although I found some in the Archives used 1/4 inch.
>
> I am struggling to find what thickness to use on the side sheets. It looks like
7/32 or something on the plan. Its very blurred. Can I use 1/8 or what is it
meant to be?
>
> Scotty
> Tamworth, Australia
>
> www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
> --------
> Scotty
>
> Tamworth, Australia
> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
>
> www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298897#298897
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Real Progress! |
However many it takes to remodel a kitchen...
Ryan
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Sent from my iPhone
On May 26, 2010, at 12:23 AM, "GliderMike" <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
>
> Gary, my plans aren't here yet, so I want to know how many ribs
> there are supposed to be when they are all done.
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298892#298892
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
Thanks Ben...did you use the 1/8 on the fuse sides?
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
Stop struggling.
It's right there in the middle of Drawing No 1.
1/8" plywood 2' x 6'.
By the way, the plans actually call for the floor to be 7/32", but 1/4" is more
commonly available.
Bill C.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298910#298910
Attachments:
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| Subject: | Re: Real Progress! |
I used 31 ribs. My fuel tank will be in the nose, so I kept the center rib
in the center section. This rib will get modified so I can put baggage in t
here, but it will still lend some support.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
If I remember correctly, there is a side gusset right where the side plywoo
d sheet stops; at the top. I believe the print shows this gusset as part of
the side plywood sheet. If you do it this way, you may need a few inches m
ore then 6'. Not sure, but take a look.
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| Subject: | Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress |
Mike,
What Jodel are you flying?
Jeff
>The first De Havilland aircraft (DH1) was completed in 1910, 95
>percent of America's wartime aircraft production (WW1) were designed
>by DeHavilland, the company was formed in 1920,
>
>Regards Mike T, flying a Jodel, restoring a DH98, and building an
>Aircamper, to 1929 drawings, fuse and eppenage done, wing to be
>assembled, currently working on external combustion powerplant for
>the above Piet.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:rmueller23@gmail.com>Ryan Mueller
>To: <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:28 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
>
>You are correct, it is not a Jenny. It is a Standard J-1; that was
>even in the subject line of his email. :P
>
>The Jenny, however, was not made by DeHavilland; DeHavilland didn't
>even exist as a company yet. The Jenny (or JN series) was built by
>the Curtiss Aeroplane Company of Hammondsport, NY.
>
>Ryan
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>
><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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| Subject: | Re: dropping things |
I watched the video link provided, it was about the BP oil spill. The main characters
in the piece were BP, the Coast Guard, and dead sea turtles, oh and of
course oil. So at Broadhead are dropping Oil, dead sea turtles, coast guard brass,
or BP execs? just wondering which of these items to pack.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298925#298925
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| Subject: | Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
Happy Wednesday Piet Pilots.
With warm weather here now, I'm surprised to see so many messages here in t
his forum. All these posts must be from those with Perfect Piets and nothin
g else to do.
I would think that all those with airplane factories would be out there bus
y and have no time for the computer chat.
Of course there are builders in progress with legite questions to post. Som
e with 18 or so ribs done, some with a new set of plans and lots of questio
ns, some with corvair concerns and some T-88 mixing dillemas, some old buil
ders and some older builders, some material questions and some dimension qu
estions...and some who ''...just think about this''. But most of all there
are a lot of bold and adventurous experimenters.
In the dusty environment of my own airplane factory I sometimes sit and sta
re while pondering possibilities of my own Piet progress. Having decided on
an A-65 and a very nice Hegy prop (thanks OZ) and wire wheels I'm now pond
ering possible paints and leaning toward Dope. Its much lighter than any ot
her.
Also, last week I pondered out loud on flaperons. Of course that was merely
an exercise of mental speculation, knowing full well the answer was ''Tha
ts Ridiculous''
This week I'm sitting here wondering about adverse yaw. Without having sear
ched the archive first, does the Piet have a problem with it in general or
is it not much of a concern? If yes then I would like to throw this out the
re; how about differential aileron bellcranks? Of course that would mean a
rod from crank to aileron.
Jeff Wilson
N899WT
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| Subject: | Re: dropping things |
you can never go wrong with packing a Pith Helmet
Do not archive
In a message dated 5/26/2010 10:32:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimgriggs@yahoo.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "flea" <jimgriggs@yahoo.com>
I watched the video link provided, it was about the BP oil spill. The main
characters in the piece were BP, the Coast Guard, and dead sea turtles, oh
and of course oil. So at Broadhead are dropping Oil, dead sea turtles,
coast guard brass, or BP execs? just wondering which of these items to pack.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298925#298925
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
Jeff,
You will encounter adverse yaw in a Piet. Thankfully Bernard, in his
infinite wisdom, included a rudder in the design. As long as the pilot meets
the airplane halfway by having two functional feet it should be of no
concern. ;)
Ryan
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Happy Wednesday Piet Pilots.
>
> This week I'm sitting here wondering about adverse yaw. Without having
> searched the archive first, does the Piet have a problem with it in general
> or is it not much of a concern? If yes then I would like to throw this out
> there; how about differential aileron bellcranks? Of course that would mean
> a rod from crank to aileron.
>
> Jeff Wilson
> N899WT
>
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| Subject: | OT - Boeing 40 and 787 Dreamliner Air-to-Air Photos |
These are incredible shots. When you're done oggling the photos, read
about how they got the shots.
Photos:
http://antiqueairfield.com/articles/show/582-the-photos-are-back-boeing-40-and-the-787-dreamliner
How They Did It:
http://antiqueairfield.com/articles/show/593-how-the-boeing-40-787-photo-shoot-was-done
Special thanks go out to Antique Airplane Association for posting the
photos and story on their website, Addison Pemberton for sharing the
photos and restoring the beautiful Boeing 40, and a huge thanks to the
folks at Boeing who had the willingness to make it all possible.
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
Right on, Ryan!
Yes, the Piet experiences quite a bit of adverse yaw. Since your feet need
to be awake for the landing anyway, you might as well keep them awake whene
ver you move the ailerons.
The adverse yaw is definitely NOT an issue.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:57:14 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory
Jeff,
You will encounter adverse yaw in a Piet. Thankfully Bernard, in his infini
te wisdom, included a rudder in the design. As long as the pilot meets the
airplane halfway by having two functional feet it should be of no concern.
=C2- ;)
Ryan
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Jeff wilson < jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com > wrote
:
Happy Wednesday Piet Pilots.
This week I'm sitting here wondering about adverse yaw. Without having sear
ched the archive first, does the Piet have a problem with it in general or
is it not much of a concern? If yes then I would like to throw this out the
re; how about differential aileron bellcranks? Of course that would mean a
rod from crank to aileron.
Jeff Wilson
N899WT
==
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
I'm excitedly waiting for my plans to get here, so I can throw my two cents worth
into this question. If the cables are attached directly to the ailerons, with
only pulleys to guide the cables, it would take a serious deviation from the
plans to add a bellcrank. Which would get away from the KISS theory behind
this airplane. A bellcrank could be done without using a push rod, but would
involve more peices of cable. Back to deviating from the KISS theory. Just
a thought :o
do not archive
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: OT - Boeing 40 and 787 Dreamliner Air-to-Air Photos |
WOW! :D INCREDIBLE! :D
Thanks for sharing this.
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress |
Don't Get Technical with me son! Ha Ha ! I have always called it a Jenny
when referring to the movie.... Seems the Jenny name is more known...
I do stand corrected!!!!! Thanks!!!!
A friend of mine knows who own's the aircraft. It is in a collection in the
St. Louis area.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne
Bressler
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:42 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
Dave,
Where did you get these photos? I've only seen two of this airplane on
Don Parson's facebook page. He hasn't even posted them to his blog yet.
It's not a Jenny. The Jenny was a DeHavilland, this is a Standard. From
my limited understanding, it's noticeably larger than a Jenny. I think I'm
correct about that, but I've been wrong before. :)
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On May 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!
HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PEPPER"
IT'S ALIVE AND WELL!
DAVE
Subject: Standard J-1 progress
Yesterday and today pictures
will fly sometime next week if it stops raining
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| Subject: | Sad News GN-1 Fatal Crash |
My thoughts are with family and friends...
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=74469
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
Yes I used 1/8" for the fuselage sides and all fuselage gussets.
rick
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:43 AM, bubbleboy <scott.dawson@optusnet.com.au>wrote:
> scott.dawson@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Thanks Ben...did you use the 1/8 on the fuse sides?
>
> Scotty
>
> --------
> Scotty
>
> Tamworth, Australia
> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
>
> www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298908#298908
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Sad News GN-1 Fatal Crash |
Holy smokes, there is very little left of that plane. Of course, he was "cut from
the plane," too, so the fuze thus became sticks.
In any event, it is scary to behold.
RIP, Mr. Rice. Sympathies to his family and friends.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
>Sent: May 26, 2010 12:25 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sad News GN-1 Fatal Crash
>
>My thoughts are with family and friends...
>
>http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=74469
>
>Jack Textor
>29 SW 58th Drive
>Des Moines, IA 50312
>www.textors.com
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> I'm surprised to see so many messages here in this forum. All
> these posts must be from those with Perfect Piets and nothing
> else to do.
> I would think that all those with airplane factories would be
> out there busy and have no time for the computer chat.
Or we are un-retired Piet builders at work bored stiff with Internet access
(am I the only person in that category?). You know what would really be fun
would be to sneak your rib jig, capstrip, and T88 into work and get a few
ribs built.
rick
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
Yes, 1/8 for the sides and firewall. I used Okoume marine plywood. I
think that grows down close to you, so check out the lumberyards that
cater to the boating industry. Just make sure it is marine grade, so
the glue used in making it will be waterproof.
Ben
On 5/26/2010 8:43 AM, bubbleboy wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bubbleboy"<scott.dawson@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Thanks Ben...did you use the 1/8 on the fuse sides?
>
> Scotty
>
> --------
> Scotty
>
> Tamworth, Australia
> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
>
> www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
Compared to the Baby Ace I was flying prior to my Piet, the Piet has far
less adverse yaw. The Baby Ace required you lead every turn with
rudder, and flew just like a Cub. My Piet doesn't require nearly as
much rudder. I built my aileron linkage per the plans, but my rudder is
2 inches taller than the plans.
Ben Charvet
On 5/26/2010 10:37 AM, Jeff wilson wrote:
> Happy Wednesday Piet Pilots.
>
> With warm weather here now, I'm surprised to see so many messages here
> in this forum. All these posts must be from those with Perfect Piets
> and nothing else to do.
> I would think that all those with airplane factories would be out
> there busy and have no time for the computer chat.
> Of course there are builders in progress with legite questions to
> post. Some with 18 or so ribs done, some with a new set of plans and
> lots of questions, some with corvair concerns and some T-88 mixing
> dillemas, some old builders and some older builders, some material
> questions and some dimension questions...and some who ''...just think
> about this''. But most of all there are a lot of bold and adventurous
> experimenters.
>
> In the dusty environment of my own airplane factory I sometimes sit
> and stare while pondering possibilities of my own Piet progress.
> Having decided on an A-65 and a very nice Hegy prop (thanks OZ) and
> wire wheels I'm now pondering possible paints and leaning toward Dope.
> Its much lighter than any other.
>
> Also, last week I pondered out loud on flaperons. Of course that was
> merely an exercise of mental speculation, knowing full well the answer
> was ''Thats Ridiculous''
>
> This week I'm sitting here wondering about adverse yaw. Without having
> searched the archive first, does the Piet have a problem with it in
> general or is it not much of a concern? If yes then I would like to
> throw this out there; how about differential aileron bellcranks? Of
> course that would mean a rod from crank to aileron.
>
> Jeff Wilson
> N899WT
>
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| Subject: | Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress |
Well, at least Mary Beth has a better chance of recognizing a floor-flusher now.
Do no archive
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| Subject: | Larry Williams' fuel tank |
Hola!
Attached are the-plans for the galvanized fuel tank,-drawn by-Larry W
illiams and blatantly-stolen by me.
Saludos
-
Santiago=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
Funny you should mention that!
I built all my ribs at work! During lunch and right after working
hours..... Honey.... I have to work late today.... darn....
Dave
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:44 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory
> I'm surprised to see so many messages here in this forum. All
> these posts must be from those with Perfect Piets and nothing
> else to do.
> I would think that all those with airplane factories would be
> out there busy and have no time for the computer chat.
Or we are un-retired Piet builders at work bored stiff with Internet
access (am I the only person in that category?). You know what would really
be fun would be to sneak your rib jig, capstrip, and T88 into work and get a
few ribs built.
rick
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Larry Williams' fuel tank |
Bueno! Gracias.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago
morete
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry Williams' fuel tank
Hola!
Attached are the plans for the galvanized fuel tank, drawn by Larry Williams
and blatantly stolen by me.
Saludos
Santiago
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| Subject: | Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
If we know anyone at the SEC, we should suggest that they begin building ribs instead
of what they have been doing with their PCs at work. And this does not
even cover what they might have been doing with their hands.
Tim in central TX
PLEASE do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Abramson
Sent: May 26, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory
Funny you should mention that!
I built all my ribs at work! During lunch and right after working hours.....
Honey.... I have to work late today.... darn....
Dave
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory
> I'm surprised to see so many messages here in this forum. All
> these posts must be from those with Perfect Piets and nothing
> else to do.
> I would think that all those with airplane factories would be
> out there busy and have no time for the computer chat.
Or we are un-retired Piet builders at work bored stiff with Internet access (am
I the only person in that category?). You know what would really be fun would
be to sneak your rib jig, capstrip, and T88 into work and get a few ribs built.
rick
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory |
Nice work Dave, instead of sitting in a stinkin lunchroom listening to
everyone bitching about their moronic managers and the dysfunctional copy
machines you were getting some important work done.
rick
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Dave Abramson
<davea@symbolicdisplays.com>wrote:
> Funny you should mention that!
>
> I built all my ribs at work! During lunch and right after working
> hours..... Honey.... I have to work late today.... darn....
>
> Dave
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *Rick Holland
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:44 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol list: Airplne Factory
>
>
> > I'm surprised to see so many messages here in this forum. All
> > these posts must be from those with Perfect Piets and nothing
> > else to do.
> > I would think that all those with airplane factories would be
> > out there busy and have no time for the computer chat.
>
> Or we are un-retired Piet builders at work bored stiff with Internet access
> (am I the only person in that category?). You know what would really be fun
> would be to sneak your rib jig, capstrip, and T88 into work and get a few
> ribs built.
>
> rick
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
>
> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ply |
Thank you all for your confirmation. I appreciate it!
Bill....you are right, one less glass of wine I think, none so blind as one who
does not wish to see! On sheet 4 it says the floor is 1/4 inch and on sheet one
the blurred dimensions say 7/32. Is it a mistake? Any way 1/4 inch is close
enough to both of them ;o)
Im ordering Hoop pine Marine grade ply as that is the Aussie standard here for
aircraft.
Thanks guys!
Scotty
--------
Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress |
Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 prHi Jeff, I
build a Subaru powered D18 seven years ago.
Mike T, do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Boatright
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1
progress
Mike,
What Jodel are you flying?
Jeff
The first De Havilland aircraft (DH1) was completed in 1910, 95
percent of America's wartime aircraft production (WW1) were designed by
DeHavilland, the company was formed in 1920,
Regards Mike T, flying a Jodel, restoring a DH98, and building an
Aircamper, to 1929 drawings, fuse and eppenage done, wing to be
assembled, currently working on external combustion powerplant for the
above Piet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1
progress
You are correct, it is not a Jenny. It is a Standard J-1; that was
even in the subject line of his email. :P
The Jenny, however, was not made by DeHavilland; DeHavilland
didn't even exist as a company yet. The Jenny (or JN series) was built
by the Curtiss Aeroplane Company of Hammondsport, NY.
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress |
Is it available tot he public? I will be in St Louis next month and would l
ove to come see it.
Rodney Hall
---- Dave Abramson <davea@symbolicdisplays.com> wrote:
>Don't Get Technical with me son!=C2- Ha Ha !=C2- I have always called
it a Jenny when referring to the movie.... Seems the Jenny name is more kno
wn...=C2-I do stand corrected!!!!!=C2- Thanks!!!!=C2-A friend of mine
knows who own's the aircraft.=C2- It is in a collection in the St. Louis
area.=C2-=C2-=C2-Dave-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne Bressler
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper Standard J-1 progress
Dave,
Where did you get these photos? =C2-I've only seen two of this airplane o
n Don Parson's facebook page. =C2-He hasn't even posted them to his blog
yet.
It's not a Jenny. =C2-The Jenny was a DeHavilland, this is a Standard.
=C2-From my limited understanding, it's noticeably larger than a Jenny.
=C2-I think I'm correct about that, but I've been wrong before. =C2-:)
Wayne Bressler Jr.Taildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.com
On May 25, 2010, at 5:25 PM, "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com> w
rote:
HELLO EVERYONE!=C2-HERE IS THE JENNY THAT WAS USED IN THE "GREAT WALDO PE
PPER"=C2-IT'S ALIVE AND WELL!=C2-DAVE=C2-
Subject: Standard J-1 progress
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Hello
This can be useful to someone.- I found a reference to the old designatio
n BHP used on his darwings for the Air Camper and Sky Scout's cabane struts
.
The 1667 struts-were welded at the aft edge, just like the lift struts Pi
etenpol used on his planes. Material is 1010 steel and were-made by Kawne
er Manufacturing Co.-
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.-
Saludos
-
Santiago
-=0A=0A=0A
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I'm trying again, there is a drawing attached that doesn't show up in the p
revious message.
-
This can be useful to someone.- I found a reference to the old designatio
n BHP used on his darwings for the Air Camper and Sky Scout's cabane struts
.
The 1667 struts-were welded at the aft edge, just like the lift struts Pi
etenpol used on his planes. Material is 1010 steel and were-made by Kawne
er Manufacturing Co.-
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.-
Saludos
-
Santiago=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Larry Williams' fuel tank |
Santiago,
You are a slueth. Where do you find all this stuff?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:58 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry Williams' fuel tank
Hola!
Attached are the plans for the galvanized fuel tank, drawn by Larry Willia
ms and blatantly stolen by me.
Saludos
Santiago
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| Subject: | Ohio Pietenpol Gathering |
Hello group, I haven't checked my email in about a week. I am trying to get my
hanger addition done so I can get the Piet back in the air. With any luck we
won't have the only static display Pietenpol at my own piet gathering. It is
just over 3 weeks untill it gets here so I am still going "balls to the wall,
and tree top tall". Looking forward to seeing all of you that can make it.
Hope the flying and building is going well, and hope everyone is staying safe.
To those that plan on attending remember to fly a NORTH PATTERN, left trafic
for R/W 10, left traffic for 28. And watch out for the R/C airplanes at the
south west end of the field, they are supposed to yeild, but..... If they dont
get out of you way you can drop waterballoons on em. If we can lets get a list
of what you each plan on bringing for a dish, so I can get the rest, pop,
chips, buns etc etc.
Talk to Y'all soon
Shad
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I guess our piet does have quite a bit of adverse yaw. In a fast taxi I can make
turns with just the ailerons, of course the steering is backwards. But that
is why old Bernard put a rudder on the back...isn't it? Yes you can make a
more harmonized controled airplane by revising the aileron controls, but in my
oppinion just build it and fly it like it is. By the way we have top mounted
piano hinged ailerons, and they probably do have more adverse yaw than the plans
type hinges.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: 1667 strut exelente |
these is bery good information but realy i dont want mes whit is bery compl
icate bend large pis of metal whit my smal tool suply but lest- trate sey
ou jorge from hanford
--- On Wed, 5/26/10, santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1667 strut
Hello
This can be useful to someone.- I found a reference to the old designatio
n BHP used on his darwings for the Air Camper and Sky Scout's cabane struts
.
The 1667 struts-were welded at the aft edge, just like the lift struts Pi
etenpol used on his planes. Material is 1010 steel and were-made by Kawne
er Manufacturing Co.-
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.-
Saludos
-
Santiago
-
-=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Larry Williams' fuel tank perfect |
tanks for sed these drawing is more easy in these way ,i like to used a ele
ctric unid sender fuel gauge like my karmman ghia v.w. 1970 is flout in sid
e and flat haet perfect for these tank and is aroun same dimention longer.
you cand found in karmannghia.com product #919-051 67 73 oe. tanks again
--- On Wed, 5/26/10, santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry Williams' fuel tank
Hola!
Attached are the-plans for the galvanized fuel tank,-drawn by-Larry W
illiams and blatantly-stolen by me.
Saludos
-
Santiago
-=0A=0A=0A
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