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1. 04:11 AM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 05:04 AM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (Kip and Beth Gardner)
3. 05:36 AM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (Dan Yocum)
4. 06:02 AM - Re: Wing on!! (John Recine)
5. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: First flight this morning in newly purchased GN-1 N30PP (John Recine)
6. 06:10 AM - Re: Wing on!! Secrets revealed!!! (John Recine)
7. 06:20 AM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (John Recine)
8. 06:27 AM - Recommended Reading (Gary Boothe)
9. 07:29 AM - Re: Recommended Reading (Jack Phillips)
10. 09:09 AM - Re: Recommended Reading (echobravo4)
11. 12:57 PM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (jhodnette)
12. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Recommended Reading (Rick Holland)
13. 01:24 PM - Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper (H RULE)
14. 01:24 PM - West Virginia fly-in (Skip Gadd)
15. 01:25 PM - Model A Piet for sale (Ryan Mueller)
16. 01:47 PM - Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper (Gary Boothe)
17. 01:52 PM - Re: Model A Piet for sale (jordanlcarr)
18. 04:33 PM - Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper (H RULE)
19. 06:48 PM - Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper (GliderMike)
20. 06:58 PM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (GliderMike)
21. 07:27 PM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (Pieti Lowell)
22. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper (Ryan Mueller)
23. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (Clif Dawson)
24. 08:19 PM - Re: Re: Model A Piet for sale (Jim Markle)
25. 09:02 PM - Re: Re: Model A Piet for sale (Dan Yocum)
26. 09:07 PM - Re: Model A Piet for sale (jordanlcarr)
27. 09:34 PM - Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper (GliderMike)
28. 09:58 PM - Re: Wing on!! W & B problem (GliderMike)
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Thanks Alan, and all the rest of you guys that have sent encouragement,
I will weigh the airplane today. I am very fearful of this, because I
did not move my engine forward as most have done with the model A. Ken
Perkins for example, moved his a full 7 inches. That is pretty
extreme, but I started asking around and got answers from 1-1/2" , 4",
and then Ken's at 7". Unfortunately, I did not discover this, somehow
missing the discussions on this list (and in the archives) untill after
I had my engine mounted and the cowling made. I think my only hope is
that I am pretty light at 150 lbs. I suspect my airplane is heavy,
which would not bother me so much, except for this W & B problem.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: ALAN LYSCARS <alyscars@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 10:23 pm
Subject: Fw: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!!
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN LYSCARS
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!!
Dan..
Congratulations to you on the birth of your Girl! I hope she
chug-a-chug-a-chugs and tick-a-tick-a-ticks along for you for a very
long time in Blue Skies. What did the little one weigh in at?
Happy for you,
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!! Secrets revealed!!!
Well boys, after 10 years, I can say that I can see the light at the
end of the tunnel. This afternoon, I put the call out for all available
hands in the neighborhood to help me put the wing back on. I got ten
people to help me, and it was a piece of cake after a little fudging
and persuading. Got all the bolts back in like they should be and the
wing and struts back in place. Boy is it ever a good feeling to stand
back and look at something that actually looks like an airplane.
Tomorrow I am on to re-installing all the brace cables, ailerons,
aileron control cables, fuel tank, fuel lines, access panels, etc. With
any luck I want to taxi on Monday. Hope the weather holds out!!
So keep on plugging and slugging through all the small stuff. I know at
times it seems never ending, but at some point it will all come
together!! Brodhead or Bust!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Dan,
Even the sainted Frank Pavliga had a 20lb. chunk of lead bolted to
the front of the motor mount of Sky Gypsy up until about 7-8 yrs ago,
so if you have to, consider it as a short-term fix if there really is
a problem. Frankly, I'd prefer that over months of reworking things
- you are so close to flying! You'll have all next winter to make a
permanent fix if you need to. Beautiful work!
Kip Gardner
On May 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Alan, and all the rest of you guys that have sent
> encouragement,
>
> I will weigh the airplane today. I am very fearful of this, because
> I did not move my engine forward as most have done with the model
> A. Ken Perkins for example, moved his a full 7 inches. That is
> pretty extreme, but I started asking around and got answers from
> 1-1/2" , 4", and then Ken's at 7". Unfortunately, I did not
> discover this, somehow missing the discussions on this list (and in
> the archives) untill after I had my engine mounted and the cowling
> made. I think my only hope is that I am pretty light at 150 lbs. I
> suspect my airplane is heavy, which would not bother me so much,
> except for this W & B problem.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ALAN LYSCARS <alyscars@myfairpoint.net>
> To: Piet List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 10:23 pm
> Subject: Fw: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ALAN LYSCARS
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!!
>
>
> Dan..
>
> Congratulations to you on the birth of your Girl! I hope she chug-
> a-chug-a-chugs and tick-a-tick-a-ticks along for you for a very
> long time in Blue Skies. What did the little one weigh in at?
>
> Happy for you,
>
> Al Lyscars
> Manchester, NH
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: helspersew@aol.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:11 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!! Secrets revealed!!!
>
>
> Well boys, after 10 years, I can say that I can see the light at
> the end of the tunnel. This afternoon, I put the call out for all
> available hands in the neighborhood to help me put the wing back
> on. I got ten people to help me, and it was a piece of cake after a
> little fudging and persuading. Got all the bolts back in like they
> should be and the wing and struts back in place. Boy is it ever a
> good feeling to stand back and look at something that actually
> looks like an airplane. Tomorrow I am on to re-installing all the
> brace cables, ailerons, aileron control cables, fuel tank, fuel
> lines, access panels, etc. With any luck I want to taxi on Monday.
> Hope the weather holds out!!
>
> So keep on plugging and slugging through all the small stuff. I
> know at times it seems never ending, but at some point it will all
> come together!! Brodhead or Bust!!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
"Winds three three zero at zero six."
Sounds like a nice day, so far.
:-)
--
yocum@gmail.com
On May 31, 2010, at 7:09 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Alan, and all the rest of you guys that have sent
> encouragement,
>
> I will weigh the airplane today. I am very fearful of this, because
> I did not move my engine forward as most have done with the model
> A. Ken Perkins for example, moved his a full 7 inches. That is
> pretty extreme, but I started asking around and got answers from
> 1-1/2" , 4", and then Ken's at 7". Unfortunately, I did not discover
> this, somehow missing the discussions on this list (and in the
> archives) untill after I had my engine mounted and the cowling made.
> I think my only hope is that I am pretty light at 150 lbs. I suspect
> my airplane is heavy, which would not bother me so much, except for
> this W & B problem.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: First flight this morning in newly purchased GN-1 |
N30PP
Has to be a great feeling, I can't wait
John
Do not archive
------Original Message------
From: ldmill
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First flight this morning in newly purchased GN-1
N30PP
Sent: May 30, 2010 11:06 PM
HI guys, spent all weekend working on the new purchase. Getting it ready for the
annual condition inspection. As Ryan M. says, there are pics on Westcoastpiet.com
showing what N30PP looks like - it still looks the same.
It was flown up from Florida to Iowa last October (14+ hour flight), parked in
a dirt floor hanger, and never touched afterwards. It was seriously filthy with
about 10 lbs of dead bugs and dirt on it. After cleanup (6 hours later) in my
hanger, it's looking much better. It has a couple of things that need to be
take care of (new tire, a fuel line and maybe bungee's), but outside of that,
will fly as is till winter when I can address some cosmetic issues.
I do intend to get it to Broadhead, but I don't know if it will be this year. It
will make it to Blakesburg though. Last year my brother and I drove up to Broadhead
for the very first visit, met a bunch of you (Mike C, Greg Cardinal, and
some others I can't remember). I'd volunteered to haul equipment in my enclosed
trailer, but it was not needed. It was a great first visit and will be repeated!
This flight was also the first time ever that I flew a plane that belonged to me,
and that I didn't have to write a check to the FBO for $100+ after an hour
of relaxation.
Cheers!
Lorin Miller
--------
Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299416#299416
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Down from the heavens just for you on his premier flight first and final tour of
America
Ace of Aces Dan Helsper!
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-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!! W & B problem
Thanks Alan, and all the rest of you guys that have sent encouragement,
I will weigh the airplane today. I am very fearful of this, because I
did not move my engine forward as most have done with the model A. Ken
Perkins for example, moved his a full 7 inches. That is pretty
extreme, but I started asking around and got answers from 1-1/2" , 4",
and then Ken's at 7". Unfortunately, I did not discover this, somehow
missing the discussions on this list (and in the archives) untill after
I had my engine mounted and the cowling made. I think my only hope is
that I am pretty light at 150 lbs. I suspect my airplane is heavy,
which would not bother me so much, except for this W & B problem.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: ALAN LYSCARS <alyscars@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 10:23 pm
Subject: Fw: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!!
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN LYSCARS
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!!
Dan..
Congratulations to you on the birth of your Girl! I hope she
chug-a-chug-a-chugs and tick-a-tick-a-ticks along for you for a very
long time in Blue Skies. What did the little one weigh in at?
Happy for you,
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing on!! Secrets revealed!!!
Well boys, after 10 years, I can say that I can see the light at the
end of the tunnel. This afternoon, I put the call out for all available
hands in the neighborhood to help me put the wing back on. I got ten
people to help me, and it was a piece of cake after a little fudging
and persuading. Got all the bolts back in like they should be and the
wing and struts back in place. Boy is it ever a good feeling to stand
back and look at something that actually looks like an airplane.
Tomorrow I am on to re-installing all the brace cables, ailerons,
aileron control cables, fuel tank, fuel lines, access panels, etc. With
any luck I want to taxi on Monday. Hope the weather holds out!!
So keep on plugging and slugging through all the small stuff. I know at
times it seems never ending, but at some point it will all come
together!! Brodhead or Bust!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Recommended Reading |
I'm not much of a Reader, but a friend sent me a book, published in 1927,
written by Charles Lindbergh. For all that he was a Flyer, Lindbergh wasn't
much of a writer (self expressed), but it is a great recount of the
Barnstorming Days. I had no idea that he was a real barnstormer! In less
time than it takes most of us to build a Piet, he went from 1st flight to
crossing the Atlantic! But it's the barnstorming stories, and the
matter-of-fact way that barnstormers accepted bad weather, bad landings,
field repairs, etc., that made it interesting. The book is called, "We".
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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Subject: | Recommended Reading |
Basically the same story, but with the help of his wife, acclaimed author
Anne Morrow, was published in his book "The Spirit of St. Louis" written in
1953. I've read both, and liked the second one much better.
The movie "The Spirit of St. Louis", made from that book with Jimmy Stewart
as Lindbergh is one of my all time favorite movies.
Jack Phillips
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 9:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Reading
I'm not much of a Reader, but a friend sent me a book, published in 1927,
written by Charles Lindbergh. For all that he was a Flyer, Lindbergh wasn't
much of a writer (self expressed), but it is a great recount of the
Barnstorming Days. I had no idea that he was a real barnstormer! In less
time than it takes most of us to build a Piet, he went from 1st flight to
crossing the Atlantic! But it's the barnstorming stories, and the
matter-of-fact way that barnstormers accepted bad weather, bad landings,
field repairs, etc., that made it interesting. The book is called, "We".
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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Subject: | Re: Recommended Reading |
I have also read both of them- they do make you yearn for a simpler time in aviation.
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Dan, I am new to the forum, but have not heard of a 7 inch adjustment to the Model
A. I have been building my Piet since the middle 80's and moved the mounts
forward but can't remember how much. I also lengthened the cabanes so the
wing could be moved a little more to adjust the CG. I am sure that yours will
balance out nicely. Will you have the prop attached for the W&B?
John H.
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Subject: | Re: Recommended Reading |
Simpler yes except keep the GPS technology around. Am reading the Spirit or
St. Louis Lindbergh book now and when he is flying in and out of clouds in
the middle of the night over the North Atlantic with a flaky compass, no nav
radios of any kind (and 36 hours without sleep) I would be thinking "My
kingdom for a GPS satellite and receiver". He said he actually liked to use
his tach in those situations to maintain level over the altimeter or
vertical speed.
rick
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:09 AM, echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I have also read both of them- they do make you yearn for a simpler time in
> aviation.
>
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> Earl Brown
>
> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up
> where I intended to be.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299465#299465
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper |
There I was up there searching for the Red Baron and out of nowhere he come
s out of a cloud and shot out my number two cylinder.He managed to only tak
e out the exhaust port valve.She is leaking now and I don't have enough pow
er to get off the ground and go after him.As soon as it's fixed ,I'm going
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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Subject: | West Virginia fly-in |
Hales Landing picnic is this coming Saturday. Should be 2 Piets flying and
another on display, also a project of 2 to look at. We are in the NW corner
of WV close to the Ohio river. Write me off list or call Ed for more
information.
Skip
PS Ed flew his Piet solo, for the first time last night, so both Piets can
fly at the same time now.
skipgadd@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Model A Piet for sale |
I found out from a gentleman that owns a Piet we inquired about earlier in
the year that his Piet is still for sale. There is a posting on
Barnstormers, but he's not on the list as far as I know so I thought I'd
throw the link out there. He saids it's getting a condition inspection right
now and will be ready to go. Remember, it is a Model A Piet, so if you are
6'2" and 300lbs it's probably not the airplane for you. :P
http://2aw.com/pietenpol.htm
Ryan
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Subject: | Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper |
Harvey,
Glad you made it down! A lesser pilot would have gone for altitude and
jumped out.
Uhhh.what kind of engine would that be?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(18 ribs down.)
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper
There I was up there searching for the Red Baron and out of nowhere he comes
out of a cloud and shot out my number two cylinder.He managed to only take
out the exhaust port valve.She is leaking now and I don't have enough power
to get off the ground and go after him.As soon as it's fixed ,I'm going
lookin for him though!!!
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Subject: | Re: Model A Piet for sale |
I saw the Ad on Barnstormers and it seems like the price may be a little high.
What do you think?
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Subject: | Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper |
It's an 80 hp Franklin.Seeing that I had lost power and not far from the gr
ound (500 ft),I continued on in the direction into the wind and looked for
a place to land rather than turn.Had I turned I would not have had the airs
peed to stay aloft and I might have come down in a less desirable place.As
it was I landed in a corn field and at this time of year the corn is only a
few inches high.Not being too far away from the airfield we trailered it b
ack ,wings on and all,=C2-where we could find out what the problem was wi
th the engine, in the hanger.We found with a compression test that the exha
ust valve on number two was leaking.=0AToday we pulled the cylinder and the
AME (aircraft maintenance engineer) has taken the whole thing=C2- home t
o work on the valve.I will find out tomorrow morning if he was successful a
nd we can put things back together.I have learnt a lot watching and working
with the AME on this problem.At first the AME thought that part of my prob
lem was that there was no valve lash and then realized that I had hydraulic
valve lifters.Even he was surprised that with an engine this old that it w
ould have such a thing.I think the engine is from the late 50's to 60's era
.Not sure.There aren't too many outfits out there that work on them or have
parts from what I can gather.The only one I could find on line was in Chek
slavakia(not sure of spelling).There was a guy, down New York way but when
I tried to call him about parts, they said his number was unlisted.=C2-
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Subject: | Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper |
Harvey, I don't know whether these guys are still doing business or not, but in case you need a cylinder, they might be worth a phone call. I think they are in the general area of Denver (Fort Collins actually) Doesn't look like I can do a link, so you will have to cut and paste. http://www.franklinengines.com
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Fill the turtle with Helium [Shocked]
Seriously, weren't you going to do taxi testing today? How does it feel at a fast
taxi? I'd think if the design would work with the engine 7" forward with
someone at least 50 pounds heavier than you, it would probably still be within
limits if you weigh 150 pounds. Weigh it and do the math and see where the CG
is. Then compare the actual CG to the range that everything will still work.
When you weigh, try to get the airplane in the same attitude it would be in
while in level flight.
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Dan,
When I flew my Piet with a Warner 145, the weight was more nose heavy than you
will experience, try it on a taxi run, if the girl takes off, which I know it
will. your in business. Be sides look where your elevator's position is, no droop.
Pieti Lowell
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Subject: | Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper |
The company in Colorado sells the Polish made 220hp Franklin that would go
in a Stinson 108, for example, and a smaller 4AC-235. Unfortunately Harvey's
engine is most likely a 4AC-176 variant, so the newer production cylinders
would not fit his model of engine, if that company is even still in
business. They advertise PZL Franklin engines, and PZL shut the Franklin
production line down a number of years ago after United Technologies
bought/invested in them. Some other group in Poland purchased all the
Franklin rights and tooling and was doing business as Franklin Aircraft
Engines in Poland......they put together a polished website, but the last
news item listed is Oshkosh 2008. Anecdotal evidence from various forums on
the net indicates that they may or may not be around anymore.
The problem with the smaller 80hp Franklin that Harvey has is that it was
never anywhere near as popular as the small Continentals, or was the primary
engine for any remotely popular model of airplane. It was an option on many
popular light planes from around WWII, but never the engine of choice (to my
knowledge). The larger Franklins were popular on the Stinsons and in some
helicopters...they found more of a solid niche and that helped them last as
a viable engine for as long as they did.
Here's an old listing of various shops or people that had parts or provided
overhaul services for 150/165/220 Franklins. If they are still around maybe
they have parts for the smaller Franklins, or know of a who might.
http://cootlog.net/?p=21
<http://cootlog.net/?p=21>Good luck!
Ryan
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:48 PM, GliderMike <glidermikeg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Harvey, I don't know whether these guys are still doing business or not,
> but in case you need a cylinder, they might be worth a phone call. I think
> they are in the general area of Denver (Fort Collins actually) Doesn't look
> like I can do a link, so you will have to cut and paste.
> http://www.franklinengines.com
>
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> Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299504#299504
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
We don't need no stinkin math!
Clif
> Fill the turtle with Helium [Shocked]
Weigh it and do the math and see where the CG is.
> Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Subject: | Re: Model A Piet for sale |
I would say that's a good price for that particular Pietenpol. I saw it at Brodhead
in 2002 and it's very "authentic" if you're a purist....or not. Mainly,
there aren't a lot of "unique" changes to the "original" design. I think it's
a beauty! Just my opinion of course.
By the way, I took a short video of it being propped and taxied to the parking
area at Brodhead while I was there. I'll send it to Chris and see if he can put
it on the westcoastpiet site. Well, or I'll give it to him when I'm out there
next weekend!
Anyway, in they video they pull it through 3 times then turn the switch "on" and
BARELY move that prop and it starts. It was amazing how little it took to get
it started!
One piece wing, model A....I don't think it can get much better than that!
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: jordanlcarr <jordan.carr.17@gmail.com>
>Sent: May 31, 2010 3:52 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Piet for sale
>
>
>I saw the Ad on Barnstormers and it seems like the price may be a little high.
What do you think?
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299482#299482
>
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Subject: | Re: Model A Piet for sale |
This is the same piet in that music video with the song about
airplanes and such - the one Dan sent to the list a while back.
Nice song - I'm humming it now.
Dan
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On May 31, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> >
>
> I would say that's a good price for that particular Pietenpol. I
> saw it at Brodhead in 2002 and it's very "authentic" if you're a
> purist....or not. Mainly, there aren't a lot of "unique" changes to
> the "original" design. I think it's a beauty! Just my opinion of
> course.
>
> By the way, I took a short video of it being propped and taxied to
> the parking area at Brodhead while I was there. I'll send it to
> Chris and see if he can put it on the westcoastpiet site. Well, or
> I'll give it to him when I'm out there next weekend!
>
> Anyway, in they video they pull it through 3 times then turn the
> switch "on" and BARELY move that prop and it starts. It was amazing
> how little it took to get it started!
>
> One piece wing, model A....I don't think it can get much better than
> that!
>
> jm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jordanlcarr <jordan.carr.17@gmail.com>
>> Sent: May 31, 2010 3:52 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Piet for sale
>>
>> >
>>
>> I saw the Ad on Barnstormers and it seems like the price may be a
>> little high. What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299482#299482
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Subject: | Re: Model A Piet for sale |
Hi Dan,
I saw the video on youtube recently and I read that the owners daughter sings the
music. It is a pretty catchy little song!
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Subject: | Re: Red Baron VS GN-1 AirCamper |
Thanks for the info Ryan. I hadn't even paid much attention to their website to
notice dates, so you are likely correct in it being sketchy. Good to know that
they most likely don't have any parts for the older Franklins. I'll quit
sharing their address, so as not to get someone excited that is looking for parts
for an older Franklin, and will make notes of the ones you gave.
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Subject: | Re: Wing on!! W & B problem |
Maybe extend the engine 14" on a heavy engine. MORE BEER :D
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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