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1. 02:04 AM - Re: Plans are here (bubbleboy)
2. 02:54 AM - Re: Re: Plans are here (Ben Charvet)
3. 02:54 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (Jack)
4. 03:18 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (Jack Phillips)
5. 03:48 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 04:21 AM - Re: Re: Official weight NX929DH and nearing initial flight (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 04:22 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (H RULE)
8. 04:29 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (helspersew@aol.com)
9. 06:14 AM - Re: Official weight NX929DH and nearing initial flight (Pieti Lowell)
10. 06:24 AM - Re: Plans are here (GliderMike)
11. 06:37 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
12. 06:48 AM - Re: Another newbie (Michael Perez)
13. 06:49 AM - Re: Plans are here (K5YAC)
14. 06:54 AM - Re: Another newbie (K5YAC)
15. 07:11 AM - Re: Spruce? (K5YAC)
16. 08:00 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (Ray Krause)
17. 08:47 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (Michael Perez)
18. 10:07 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (Billy McCaskill)
19. 10:22 AM - Re: NX929DH complete, run up (Graham Hansen)
20. 04:39 PM - Sport pilot training (Kringle)
21. 04:41 PM - Sport pilot training (Kringle)
22. 05:20 PM - Re: Sport pilot training ()
23. 05:20 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (Ryan Mueller)
24. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: Plans are here (Ben Charvet)
25. 05:44 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (Ben Charvet)
26. 06:00 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (Jason Holmes)
27. 06:10 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (John Hofmann)
28. 07:19 PM - Re: Plans are here (K5YAC)
29. 07:29 PM - Plans are here (Oscar Zuniga)
30. 09:05 PM - Ohio Piet gathering (shad bell)
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
Mike...what program on your PC are you using to play Mike Cuys DVD? I have one
but cant play it on anything here. I have Vista and curious how you do it.
Scotty
Australia
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
You could always do like I did and use Douglas Fir. I carefully selected
appropriate boards at Lowe's to make my ribs. Bought 1X6 boards, planed
them down to 1/2 inch, then sliced off the rib cap strips. You can buy some
small sheets of aircraft plywood at your local hobby shop to make the
gussets..just my $.02
Ben Charvet
PS. I used DF for the whole airplane and came in at 692 pounds.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM, GliderMike <glidermikeg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I thought about the sign and standing on the corner deal, but I have
> difficulty looking despondent enough to get people to give me money or
> poplar. I'm getting so desperate to build, I'm even considering a
> possibility of going back to driving a truck. I swore when I got back from
> Iraq, I'd never drive a truck in the states again.
> do not archive.
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> Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | NX929DH complete, run up |
Dan,
What a beautiful ship! Best of luck with your flight testing.
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able to
roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A for
about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............
pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she
fired. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with
his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | NX929DH complete, run up |
She's a beauty, Dan.
Say, how long are your neighbor's ears, that he used to adjust the mixture
screws? Is he a Vulcan, or an Elf?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able to
roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A for
about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............
pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she
fired. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with
his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Thanks Jeff,
I found that compass on Ebay. Great place to find stuff if you have the ti
me to look. It is German with a bubble face. It appears like a good one wi
th many little adjustment knobs. Now all I have to do is learn German so
I can read what it says.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Dan,
Great lookin' Piet! Where'd you get that compass hanging down from the und
erside of the wing? Does true well?
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH and nearing initial flight |
Piete,
The A runs static at 1860 RPM. I really got lucky that my first carved pro
p ever, came out so good and close to where it should be. I took a lot af
advice from the archives and also Ken Perkins as to what the pitch should
be (76/46). The first initial flight will be done with only necessary saf
ety crew and observers. After that I would be glad to have any and all com
e out and watch/chat/kabitz.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 7:45 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Official weight NX929DH
om>
Dan,
e sure that the A will turn 1800 RPM,s or better static, or at least durin
g a
ood run down the runway, or you may have a problem getting around the patc
h.
ouwe,s would only turn 1775 RPM with his prop, a very large problem, but
when I
ut my prop on his Ford it went to 2000 , the specs were supposed to be the
ame. Let us know when you are going to do the flight stuff, I would like
to be
round as an observer pro-tem.
ieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
That's it;I'm going out and buying black and yellow paint today and changin
g the colour of my plane to the same as yours!That is a fantastic look!She
is absolutely beautiful!=0A=0Ado not archive-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________
___________________=0AFrom: "helspersew@aol.com" <helspersew@aol.com>=0ATo:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, June 7, 2010 9:22:14 PM=0ASubjec
t: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up=0A=0A=0AWell, this evening afte
r work the weather was cooperative, and I was able to roll out my finished
Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A for about an hour. How
sweet it was............one shot of prime............ pulled the prop throu
gh four blades with the mags off......mags on....................second pul
l she fired up. What a nice sound........ pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The n
eighbors started to show up as soon as she fired. Got some help from the ol
d-timer across the taxiway who lives with his son and is a Model A car owne
r. He helped me immensely by using just his ears to adjust the mixture scre
ws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl. Couldn't be happier. Brodhead
or bust!!!!=0A=0ADan Helsper=0APoplar Grove, IL.=0A
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Thanks Tim,
I think you are referring to the (perpetual) carb heat shroud surrounding
the #1 cylinder, and the arched intake tube that goes down into the carb
intake. This is a-la-Ken Perkins. I unashamedly copied many of the better
features that others have done where saw fit.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
net>
Dan, it is magnificent. See my more detailed rant sent personally to you
and to
y friends-- almost all of whom are NOT aviators, but many of whom have des
igned
r built other things. BTW, what is all that neat polished stuff on the po
rt
ide of the engine?
im in central TX
o not archive
-----Original Message-----
rom: helspersew@aol.com
ent: Jun 7, 2010 8:22 PM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able
to
oll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A fo
r
bout an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............ pu
lled
he prop through four blades with the mags off......mags on................
....second
ull she fired up. What a nice sound........ pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. Th
e
eighbors started to show up as soon as she fired. Got some help from the
ld-timer across the taxiway who lives with his son and is a Model A car ow
ner.
e helped me immensely by using just his ears to adjust the mixture screws.
Only
ne small oil drip inside the cowl. Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!
!!
an Helsper
oplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH and nearing initial flight |
The Prop I have is a 76 X 46 Sensenich and turns 2000 Plus , but the Prop that
is on the Funk powered Piet is a 76 X 44 and turns 2000 and a Sensenich Semitar
design and will pull the Piet at 85 with two people. That is where your prop
with the proper flex will go into over drive when backed down on the throttle.
My estimate or guess, you should cruise along nicely at 70 plus around 1800.
Neat looking Piet
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
Scotty, as best as I can tell, it looks like HP Quick Play
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Dan,
A real work of Art. She is a beauty I cant wait to meet her in person at
Brodhead next month. I made a copy for my shop inspirational pics. I needed
to hang one from a builder I knew and respected (even if its the work of a
purist). Thanks for sharing great job, Safe flying!
John
Safe in the morning safe all day, dangerous at night
Do not archive
the others's will only become jealous!
In a message dated 6/7/2010 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
helspersew@aol.com writes:
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able
to roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A
for about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of
prime............ pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she fired.
Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with his son
and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his ears to
adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Another newbie |
Welcome aboard Chuck! Sounds like you have a good plan in place for success
. You are very fortunate to have Jack near by...he will prove to be your bi
ggest asset while building.
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If interested in other instructional DVDs, drop by www.karetakeraero.com-
and take a look.- Mike Cuy's DVD has good tips....I'm glad we work togeth
er; he has helped me immensely as I am sure Jack will for you.
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Enjoy!
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Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
bencharvet(at)gmail.com wrote:
> You can buy some small sheets of aircraft plywood at your local hobby shop to
make the gussets..just my $.02
>
> Ben Charvet
> [b]
In a pinch, yes... but my local Hobby Lobby charges $20 for a small sheet of 1/16"
birch ply (Midwest brand for modeling). I forget the exact dimensions (something
like 12"x24"), but I figured it up at the time and realized that it was
quite a bit more expensive than some of the really good stuff. I'm not saying
that buying local isn't a good idea from time to time, especially when it comes
to making progress, but pay attention to what you are shelling out for that
local plywood.
Probably the biggest deal killer on buying plywood from the mail order outfits
is the freight charge, but I believe you can get 48" x 48" sheets via ground service,
which is fine for making gussets and smaller cuts. I would recommend
doing that rather than trying to purchase the hobby store stuff. Think about
the piece I purchased... 12" x 24"... that is 1/8 of a 48" x 48" sheet. In other
words, multiply my local cost by a factor of eight ($160+tax) in order to
compare to the price of a mail order sheet. A half sheet (24" x 48") sheet of
Finnish Birch at Aircraft Spruce is currently selling for ~$17, and a full sheet
(48" x 48") is going for ~$33. You could buy 4 full sheets of ply AND 16
oz. of T-88 for the $160 mentioned above. Cut a 12" x 24" piece from one of those
full sheets... you cost is less than $5, including shipping.
Anyhow... I didn't bring this up to pick on you Ben... it's just that I've thought
about this a time or two when I've had to run to the local hobby shops for
materials. I've often considered buying a few common thicknesses of ply, in
sizes that could be delivered by ground service in order to keep my wood rack
stocked and avoid having to go to the hobby shops. In fact... that is going on
my list right now.
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| Subject: | Re: Another newbie |
Welcome, and good luck on your adventure Chuck! Sounds like you are in good hands
out there.
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Mark - working on wings
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Capstrip shouldn't take too long to receive.
I ordered 108-5' lengths (540 feet) of 1/4" x 1/2" capstrip and 2-6' lengths (12
feet) of 1/2" x 1/2" capstrip in order to build my 3-piece wing. It worked
out just about right. Not more than a stick or two (and a nice bundle of scraps)
left over.
I can't remember how much ply I ordered. Maybe a full sheet (48" x 48")? Not
sure, but it wouldn't hurt to just grab two of those anyhow... if it is too much
for the ribs, you'll use it somewhere else. Also, I'm not sure what type/size
of adhesives you prefer, but I just killed my first batch of T-88 (Quart size)
on my wings. Mileage may vary, but I would recommend the quart size... it
is quite a bit cheaper than buying two pint sized batches and whether it is
hot or cold in your shop, it seems to have a good shelf life.
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Absolutely beautiful!
Thanks for sharing.
Ray Krause
Sky Scout..... 10 years!
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was
able to roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the
Model A for about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of
prime............ pulled the prop through four blades with the mags
off......mags on....................second pull she fired up. What a
nice sound........ pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to
show up as soon as she fired. Got some help from the old-timer across
the taxiway who lives with his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped
me immensely by using just his ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only
one small oil drip inside the cowl. Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or
bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
"Sounds" like you had a great day! Congrats.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Incredible work, Dan! Looks more like a full restoration of a 1929 airplane than
a 2010 model! Absolutely love it! I'll be taking many pictures of it in person
this year at Brodhead!
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tailfeathers almost done
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Dan, DO NOT ARCHIVE
What a beautiful "aeroplane"! Bernard Pietenpol would be proud of you
for creating a fine example of his classic design.
I hope you get as much enjoyment from your airplane as I have had from
mine.
Cheers,
Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN in Alberta, Canada)
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| Subject: | Sport pilot training |
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is what
I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
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| Subject: | Sport pilot training |
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is what
I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
If you have access to a plane and can find a CFI that will do it go for it. Wisdom
has litle to do with it but it would definitely be cheaper. You would have
to be the owner of the plane or borrow it. As far as I know an experimental cannot
be rented or used by a CFI to give lessons for hire. However you can hire
a CFI to give you lessons in your plane.
Rodney Hall
---- Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
I would think the thing to do, if you are honestly committed to getting your license,
would be to find the best available combination of LSA instruction availability/proximity/price
and just finish the license. You could try to find this
combination in concert with primary training in a taildragger, but depending
on where you live this could be a very limiting factor. If you can find someone
to do it in a taildragger, great. However, I am of the opinion that it would
be better to just find available, quality instruction that will give you the
best chance of success in getting your license than holding out to find a taildragger
that may be significantly more expensive, less available, farther away,
etc. Set yourself up for success.....but that's just me. :P
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
I actually bought my gusset material from Aircraft Spruce in the 24 X 48
size and found the shipping to be reasonable. I ordered some 1/16 and
1/8 inch at the same time to save shipping. I have a local hobby shop
that has the 6 in x 12 in plywood that isn't too expensive, but I guess
to make all the ribs it would really add up. Buying the sizes I used I
could rip long pieces of gusset, then cut them to length with the band
saw. I was only thinking that if money was real tight, you could at
least get started for a few bucks a week...
Aircraft Spruce is pretty good about listing the best way to save on
shipping for large items. I saved a lot by ordering tubing in sizes no
longer than I actually needed.
Ben Charvet
On 6/8/2010 9:49 AM, K5YAC wrote:
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> bencharvet(at)gmail.com wrote:
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>> You can buy some small sheets of aircraft plywood at your local hobby shop to
make the gussets..just my $.02
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>> Ben Charvet
>> [b]
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> In a pinch, yes... but my local Hobby Lobby charges $20 for a small sheet of
1/16" birch ply (Midwest brand for modeling). I forget the exact dimensions (something
like 12"x24"), but I figured it up at the time and realized that it
was quite a bit more expensive than some of the really good stuff. I'm not saying
that buying local isn't a good idea from time to time, especially when it
comes to making progress, but pay attention to what you are shelling out for
that local plywood.
>
> Probably the biggest deal killer on buying plywood from the mail order outfits
is the freight charge, but I believe you can get 48" x 48" sheets via ground
service, which is fine for making gussets and smaller cuts. I would recommend
doing that rather than trying to purchase the hobby store stuff. Think about
the piece I purchased... 12" x 24"... that is 1/8 of a 48" x 48" sheet. In
other words, multiply my local cost by a factor of eight ($160+tax) in order to
compare to the price of a mail order sheet. A half sheet (24" x 48") sheet
of Finnish Birch at Aircraft Spruce is currently selling for ~$17, and a full
sheet (48" x 48") is going for ~$33. You could buy 4 full sheets of ply AND 16
oz. of T-88 for the $160 mentioned above. Cut a 12" x 24" piece from one of
those full sheets... you cost is less than $5, including shipping.
>
> Anyhow... I didn't bring this up to pick on you Ben... it's just that I've thought
about this a time or two when I've had to run to the local hobby shops for
materials. I've often considered buying a few common thicknesses of ply, in
sizes that could be delivered by ground service in order to keep my wood rack
stocked and avoid having to go to the hobby shops. In fact... that is going
on my list right now.
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
It would be nice if that was possible, but there just aren't that many
Pietenpols out there. They can't be rented, so you would have to
befriend an owner that would let you use his, or find a CFI that owned a
Piet that was willing to give you lessons for free. That would all be
fine until it was time to solo, and I doubt anyone would allow that. I
started my project with a Private Pilot license that had been dormant
for 15 years. I joined the local EAA chapter and met several CFI's that
would take me flying for next to nothing. I ended up getting a
tailwheel endorsement in a Citabria, then a little time in a J-3, before
my first solo in a Baby Ace that I had bought.
My brother wants to learn to fly too. I know at least two CFI's that
would get him ready to solo for free, or only paying for the fuel, but
some other arrangement would need to be made for the solo work. I think
I agree with the previous post that it would be better just to get the
license, then work on the tailwheel endorsement and familiarity with
aircraft similar to the Piet, like a Cub or Aeronca. If you are just
starting your project, you have plenty of time. I spent 5 years
building mine.
Join your local EAA chapter, and I'm sure you can get plenty of advice
that suits your local situation
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
looking forward to Brodhead
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what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300609#300609
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| Subject: | Sport pilot training |
It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com in
Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca Champ
and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always go
down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also one
of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
Just my 2 cents.
Jason
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
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> It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com
in
> Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca
Champ
> and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always
go
> down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also
one
> of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
> Just my 2 cents.
> Jason
>
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Kringle
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
Yep, you are right that it would be a convenient way to get started, but it would
indeed start to add up.
Your hobby shop may be more reasonable than mine. Most of the ones here are chain
stores like Hobby Lobby or specialized hobby outlets (R/C aircraft). A good
selection, but given the quantity of materials we require, none of them offer
the best deal in wood products. I know that there are also marine outlets,
but I have never compared selection or prices.
bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> I have a local hobby shop that has the 6 in x 12 in plywood that isn't too expensive,
but I guess to make all the ribs it would really add up. Buying the
sizes I used I could rip long pieces of gusset, then cut them to length with the
band saw. I was only thinking that if money was real tight, you could at least
get started for a few bucks a week...
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GliderMike wrote-
>I'm getting so desperate to build, I'm even considering
>a possibility of going back to driving a truck.
There's no need to drive trucks.
If you have a set of plans and a lot of determination, you're
on your way. It's very simple to cruise the sawmills, used
building materials yards, second-hand lumber yards, and just
"sniff the air" to find lumber that you can use to start building
your Pietenpol airframe. Some big rough beams, or perhaps an
old building that is being torn down, or a barn on a farm- all you
need are a couple of dry, fairly straight, rough timbers to yield
all the straight-grain lumber you'll need to build your airframe, ribs,
tail feathers, and miscellaneous structure. Once you run them
through a planer or jointer and then rip them to final dimension
on the table saw, you'll have more building stock than you need
and you will have smelled some of the most wonderful wood smells
that God has placed on this earth. All you'll need after that is a
little bit of glue and plenty of time in the shop and it will
start to come together. I'll bet you can scrounge all your wood
for a few bucks, or for the price of your sweat to haul off some
old wooden timbers. From there, it's all just fun and desire to
pull dimensioned structural shapes from big rough timbers.
I love building with wood!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Ohio Piet gathering |
Well, the hanger addition is done, the clean up is in progress, and hopfully the
annual will be done on the piet for the 19th. I am looking forward to seeing
all of you that can make it. I am planning the food purchase (hot dogs, buns
etc) so cime in here if you plan on attending. Bring a dish if you can, and
I will put out a voulentary donnation jar, put in if you want to, it will help
us keep this thing going for future gatherings, and keep me from going broke
(port a johns food cost etc etc). To Don Emch, Don't worry about bringing a
tent I told you before (I think), that you are welcome to my tent and air mattress,
since you will have a co-pilot with you. I also have a couple sets of tie
downs for those who don't have any, if you plan on camping over night you are
welcome to them. If I have room, I might be able to get 1 or 2 additional
piets in my hanger, who ever brings the better beer gets 1st dibs. If by chance
we get a shower overnight
fly-in campers can put a tent on the hanger floor (concrete) and have a dry nights
sleep, you will be the security force for the night, shot gun and buck shot
is optional, smack them with a piece of spar stock if you want. Hope the weather
holds out, and looking forward to seeing you all,
Shad
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