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1. 02:40 AM - Re: Ohio Piet gathering (Kringle)
2. 07:28 AM - the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading (Dan Yocum)
3. 08:04 AM - Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading (Perry Rhoads)
4. 08:31 AM - Re: Ohio Piet gathering (Don Emch)
5. 08:38 AM - Re: Ohio Piet gathering (Bill Church)
6. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Ohio Piet gathering (shad bell)
7. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Ohio Piet gathering (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
8. 10:06 AM - Re: Plans are here (Rick Holland)
9. 10:09 AM - Re: Sport pilot training (Rick Holland)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Ohio Piet gathering (Skip Gadd)
11. 11:26 AM - Re: Sport pilot training (Skip Gadd)
12. 11:50 AM - Re: Plans are here (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
13. 11:50 AM - Re: Sport pilot training (John Hofmann)
14. 12:37 PM - 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in (Dan Yocum)
15. 12:48 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (airlion)
16. 01:34 PM - Re: 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in (Jeff Boatright)
17. 01:41 PM - Fw: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... (Wayne Bressler)
18. 01:48 PM - Welcome new lister Chuck from Raleigh, NC (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
19. 02:19 PM - Re: Fw: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... (Wayne Bressler)
20. 06:01 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (coxwelljon)
21. 06:01 PM - Re: Ohio Piet gathering (Jason Holmes)
22. 06:25 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (Kringle)
23. 07:41 PM - Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? (shad bell)
24. 08:06 PM - Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? (Jason Holmes)
25. 08:06 PM - Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? (helspersew@aol.com)
26. 09:25 PM - Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? (shad bell)
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Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
Where is this gathering?
--------
John
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Subject: | the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Sounds like an Agatha Cristie novel, I know.
Last fall I measured the prop RPM on N8031 with a digital IR tach reader
doo-hickey and determined that the difference between the mechanical
tach and the actual rpm of the prop was 11% low. That is, when the
mechanical tach reads 1000RPM, the prop is actually spinning at 1100RPM.
I did the same test yesterday, and discovered that it's now about 16%
low: 1000RPM on the mechanical and 1160RPM on the prop.
The former owner said that at one point the tach pegged during operation
and he discovered oil had seeped up the tach cable from the motor and
entered the tachometer. He cleaned it up and called it good (not sure
if he had it recalibrated or not...).
It sounds like something else is going on here. Anyone have any ideas
and suggested solutions? Should I buy a new tach or have this one
overhauled? Anyone know of a good instrument overhaul shop?
Thanks,
Dan
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Dan,
Check the tach cable, if you haven't already. I had a tach cable break on
N12939. After replacement, the tach reads higher. I changed nothing but the
cable.
Perry Rhoads
N12939
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading
>
> Sounds like an Agatha Cristie novel, I know.
>
> Last fall I measured the prop RPM on N8031 with a digital IR tach reader
> doo-hickey and determined that the difference between the mechanical tach
> and the actual rpm of the prop was 11% low. That is, when the mechanical
> tach reads 1000RPM, the prop is actually spinning at 1100RPM. I did the
> same test yesterday, and discovered that it's now about 16% low: 1000RPM
> on the mechanical and 1160RPM on the prop.
>
> The former owner said that at one point the tach pegged during operation
> and he discovered oil had seeped up the tach cable from the motor and
> entered the tachometer. He cleaned it up and called it good (not sure if
> he had it recalibrated or not...).
>
> It sounds like something else is going on here. Anyone have any ideas and
> suggested solutions? Should I buy a new tach or have this one overhauled?
> Anyone know of a good instrument overhaul shop?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
Hey Shad,
I'm still planning on showing up Friday evening, with one of the kiddos. I just
might take you up on that offer to use a tent and air mattress or hangar floor
or whatever. I talked to Frank P. and he said he still doesn't have the Lambert
back up and running, so he probably won't be making it.
I'm looking forward to it! Who else is coming? Driving or flying?
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
Just a guess here, but I'm thinking that the Ohio Piet Gathering might be in Ohio.
:)
Seriously, though, try using the List archives, and the search utility. I just
typed in "Ohio", and was able to quickly find a previous post from Shad, listing
the following:
Location is OH71, Centerburg Ohio (25 miles North of Columbus),
BC
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Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
It is Centerburg, Ohio, bring a dish to pass (pot luck) and or donation jar to
help cover cost of food (hot dogs etc) and port-o-potties. It will be on June
19th starting around 9am-noon or so, and go untill everyone leaves.
Shad
ps of course that is all weather permitting
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Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
If I can get my new plugs delivered, installed and my condition inspection done
with some test hours
flown off to make sure my engine miss/ carbon issue is totally gone then I hope
to be able to fly down
on Saturday. Iffy right now.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
True, to get started on your ribs do some dumpster diving at some
construction sites. Just need a flat piece of 3/4" plywood (maybe 6' x 2')
and scrap pine blocks to make a rib building jig. Get a cheap used table saw
if you don't have one to rip capstrip from some good douglas fir or white
pine from the lumber yard (some have used Cedar for rib capstrip). You will
need to cough up the dough for the T-88 epoxy (or equivalent quality glue)
and good quality 1/16" AC or marine plywood. Would be cool to convert some
timbers from an old barn into a flying aircraft,
rick
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> GliderMike wrote-
>
> >I'm getting so desperate to build, I'm even considering
> >a possibility of going back to driving a truck.
>
> There's no need to drive trucks.
>
> If you have a set of plans and a lot of determination, you're
> on your way. It's very simple to cruise the sawmills, used
> building materials yards, second-hand lumber yards, and just
> "sniff the air" to find lumber that you can use to start building
> your Pietenpol airframe. Some big rough beams, or perhaps an
> old building that is being torn down, or a barn on a farm- all you
> need are a couple of dry, fairly straight, rough timbers to yield
> all the straight-grain lumber you'll need to build your airframe, ribs,
> tail feathers, and miscellaneous structure. Once you run them
> through a planer or jointer and then rip them to final dimension
> on the table saw, you'll have more building stock than you need
> and you will have smelled some of the most wonderful wood smells
> that God has placed on this earth. All you'll need after that is a
> little bit of glue and plenty of time in the shop and it will
> start to come together. I'll bet you can scrounge all your wood
> for a few bucks, or for the price of your sweat to haul off some
> old wooden timbers. From there, it's all just fun and desire to
> pull dimensioned structural shapes from big rough timbers.
>
> I love building with wood!
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
When I think about some of the landings I made when I was learning long ago
for my Private license I am very glad I was in a rented Cessna 150 with that
one piece spring steel gear rather than any aircraft I had built.
I instructed for three years long ago (including in Super Cubs and
Decathlons) I agree that you should at least get through solo in good
trainer aircraft first and add the taildragger complications later.
rick
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that
> is what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300607#300607
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Ohio Piet gathering |
Shad,
Ed and I are still planning to arrive in our Piets before dark Friday.
Weather permitting we will leave Hales Landing Thursday morning for Hook
field and the Aeronca fly-in, than Friday on to OH71. Don't belive we will
be able to bring any food, but will be happy to add to the donation jar.
Looking forward to the trip.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/9/2010 12:06:43 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Piet gathering
>
>
>
> Well, the hanger addition is done, the clean up is in progress, and
hopfully the annual will be done on the piet for the 19th. I am looking
forward to seeing all of you that can make it. I am planning the food
purchase (hot dogs, buns etc) so cime in here if you plan on attending.
Bring a dish if you can, and I will put out a voulentary donnation jar, put
in if you want to, it will help us keep this thing going for future
gatherings, and keep me from going broke (port a johns food cost etc etc).
To Don Emch, Don't worry about bringing a tent I told you before (I think),
that you are welcome to my tent and air mattress, since you will have a
co-pilot with you. I also have a couple sets of tie downs for those who
don't have any, if you plan on camping over night you are welcome to them.
If I have room, I might be able to get 1 or 2 additional piets in my
hanger, who ever brings the better beer gets 1st dibs. If by chance we get
a shower overnight
> fly-in campers can put a tent on the hanger floor (concrete) and have a
dry nights sleep, you will be the security force for the night, shot gun
and buck shot is optional, smack them with a piece of spar stock if you
want. Hope the weather holds out, and looking forward to seeing you all,
> Shad
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
You are right John. Red Stewart field Waynesville OH is a really neat place. If
I lived anywhere near south west Ohio it would be my choice for a place to learn
to fly. I was talking to an instructor there who told me he went to Ohio University
(they have one of those airline pilot programs) and got all his pilot
licenses, than went to Stewart and learned to fly.
http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: 6/8/2010 9:12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com in
Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca Champ
and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always go
down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also one
of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
Just my 2 cents.
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
--------
John
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- The --> &n=======================
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GliderMike,
I have some materials you could use for your jig if you are interested.
Come by my hangar at skypark or contact me offline.
Brian
SLC-UT
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans are here
True, to get started on your ribs do some dumpster diving at some
construction sites. Just need a flat piece of 3/4" plywood (maybe 6' x
2') and scrap pine blocks to make a rib building jig. Get a cheap used
table saw if you don't have one to rip capstrip from some good douglas
fir or white pine from the lumber yard (some have used Cedar for rib
capstrip). You will need to cough up the dough for the T-88 epoxy (or
equivalent quality glue) and good quality 1/16" AC or marine plywood.
Would be cool to convert some timbers from an old barn into a flying
aircraft,
rick
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
wrote:
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
GliderMike wrote-
>I'm getting so desperate to build, I'm even considering
>a possibility of going back to driving a truck.
There's no need to drive trucks.
If you have a set of plans and a lot of determination, you're
on your way. It's very simple to cruise the sawmills, used
building materials yards, second-hand lumber yards, and just
"sniff the air" to find lumber that you can use to start building
your Pietenpol airframe. Some big rough beams, or perhaps an
old building that is being torn down, or a barn on a farm- all you
need are a couple of dry, fairly straight, rough timbers to yield
all the straight-grain lumber you'll need to build your airframe, ribs,
tail feathers, and miscellaneous structure. Once you run them
through a planer or jointer and then rip them to final dimension
on the table saw, you'll have more building stock than you need
and you will have smelled some of the most wonderful wood smells
that God has placed on this earth. All you'll need after that is a
little bit of glue and plenty of time in the shop and it will
start to come together. I'll bet you can scrounge all your wood
for a few bucks, or for the price of your sweat to haul off some
old wooden timbers. From there, it's all just fun and desire to
pull dimensioned structural shapes from big rough timbers.
I love building with wood!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
le, List Admin.
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
Hi Skip,
When I was living in Indy, I had several friends who would go there to
fly Cubs. I have never been there but it sounds like a neat place. Then
again, at HXF, where I am based, we have 20 Cubs on the field so that is
pretty neat as well.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Skip Gadd wrote:
> You are right John. Red Stewart field Waynesville OH is a really neat
place. If I lived anywhere near south west Ohio it would be my choice
for a place to learn to fly. I was talking to an instructor there who
told me he went to Ohio University (they have one of those airline pilot
programs) and got all his pilot licenses, than went to Stewart and
learned to fly.
> http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/
> Skip
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Hofmann
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 6/8/2010 9:12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
>
> I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
>
> -john-
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
>
<jholmes8@centurylink.net>
>>
>> It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out
ohiolightsport.com in
>> Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca
Champ
>> and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could
always go
>> down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is
also one
>> of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
>> Just my 2 cents.
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kringle
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-Lis t: Sport pilot training
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if
that is
>> what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>>
>> --------
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300609#300609
>>
>>
>>
>> - The --> &n============
===========
>>
>
> <>
>
>
>
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Subject: | 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in |
All,
Antique Airfield will be holding the 4th annual Homebuilt Fly-in at IA27
on July 2nd and 3rd.
The flyer is attached.
Cheers,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
david , you might want to think about this for your tail dragging check out. Maybe
on your way back south. Gardiner
________________________________
From: Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 2:21:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
You are right John. Red Stewart field Waynesville OH is a really neat place. If
I lived anywhere near south west Ohio it would be my choice for a place to learn
to fly. I was talking to an instructor there who told me he went to Ohio University
(they have one of those airline pilot programs) and got all his pilot
licenses, than went to Stewart and learned to fly.
http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/
Skip
----- Original Message -----
>From: John Hofmann
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: 6/8/2010 9:12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
>
>I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
>
>
>-john-
>
>
>John Hofmann
>Vice-President, Information Technology
>The Rees Group, Inc.
>2424 American Lane
>Madison, WI 53704
>Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
>Fax: 608.443.2474
>Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
>On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
>
>>
>>It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com in
>>Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca Champ
>>and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always go
>>down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also one
>>of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
>>Just my 2 cents.
>>Jason
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Pietenpol-Lis
>> t: Sport pilot training
>>
>>
>>Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
>>what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>>
>>--------
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300609#300609
>>
>>
>>
>> - The --> &n=======================
>>
>>
>
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Subject: | Re: 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in |
Dan,
Thanks for the info. The AAA's definition of
"antique" hombuilt is broader than I suspected
(they do say "antique type"). Flybaby,
Starduster, Marquart Charger, Hatz? The more the
merrier, but calling a Hatz an antique makes me
feel really old! :-(
Jeff
>All,
>
>Antique Airfield will be holding the 4th annual
>Homebuilt Fly-in at IA27 on July 2nd and 3rd.
>
>The flyer is attached.
>
>Cheers,
>Dan
>
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>Attachment converted: HD:4th homebuilt fly-in.pdf (PDF /IC) (0177E2AE)
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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Subject: | Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
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Subject: | Welcome new lister Chuck from Raleigh, NC |
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
Here is an update from Jake Shultz and his Rotec-powered, steel tube
Piet. I know there was some discussion about his wicker sears
recently, and thought everyone might like to see some progress pics.
(second attempt)
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
Begin forwarded message:
> Jake writes:
> Howdy all,
>
> My 1931 Pietenpol replica project is moving along well...
>
> ROTEC was originally posting updates on their site whenever I sent
> them information, yet they are building a totally new website and
> have not had time to post project updates as quickly as they would
> like. They are still fantastic with support whenever I call with
> installation questions.
>
> The project sequence has been to build the fundamentals first, then
> move on to detail components in a logical manner.
>
> Construction of the 4130 tubing fuselage was built exactly to the
> 1932 Flying and Glider manual dimensions - except I made my fuselage
> two inches wider than plans, added a passenger door cutout, and
> reinforced that door cutout area with upsized/additional tubing.
>
> I next worked to understand the pilot and passenger spaces. This
> involved mocking up the seats, seat-supports, instrument boards, and
> floorboards. (There is virtually no information on these details as
> they relate to the original steel-tube design in the 1932 Flying and
> Glider Manual...!) Several friends served as test subjects by
> climbing in and out of the front seat to verify clearances. Both
> seats were fully formed/welded 4130 tubing, powder coated, then
> woven with real wicker. I did all the forming, cutting, and fitting
> of the parts. I hired out the welding, powder coating, and wicker
> weaving (say that three times fast...!)
>
> Enjoy a few recent photos of the seats, West-African hardwood
> (Bubinga) veneer floorboards, and "turned" instrument boards.
>
> Having a great time...
>
> Jake
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
Kringle wrote:
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
I agree with the previous posts. Make getting your license and building an airplane
2 different projects.
I have a lot of hours in a lot of different airplanes. Most things about flying
are the same and when you have the basics well ingrained in your brain you will
find it easier to concentrate on the differences that each airplane presents.
I have checked out in at least 4 different tail wheel airplanes from Maul
to Aeronca and probably twice that many tri-gear including complex, high performance
and retractable. Each new airplane becomes a little easier and each new
airplane that I have flown has made me a better pilot.
Once you get your license you will probably find a lot of recreational pilots that
will take you along and let you fly just to show off their airplane. There
are now a lot of cool sport aircraft out there to try. Once you have flown
some of these sleek carbon fiber craft you will appreciate the wooden open cockpit,
low and slow that much more.
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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Subject: | Ohio Piet gathering |
Shad,
My dad and I will be stopping in on Saturday. We will bring some cash for
the donation jar and some food if I have time to get something together.
Thanks for organizing this,
Jason Holmes
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:05 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Piet gathering
Well, the hanger addition is done, the clean up is in progress, and hopfully
the annual will be done on the piet for the 19th. I am looking forward to
seeing all of you that can make it. I am planning the food purchase (hot
dogs, buns etc) so cime in here if you plan on attending. Bring a dish if
you can, and I will put out a voulentary donnation jar, put in if you want
to, it will help us keep this thing going for future gatherings, and keep me
from going broke (port a johns food cost etc etc). To Don Emch, Don't worry
about bringing a tent I told you before (I think), that you are welcome to
my tent and air mattress, since you will have a co-pilot with you. I also
have a couple sets of tie downs for those who don't have any, if you plan on
camping over night you are welcome to them. If I have room, I might be able
to get 1 or 2 additional piets in my hanger, who ever brings the better beer
gets 1st dibs. If by chance we get a shower overnight
fly-in campers can put a tent on the hanger floor (concrete) and have a dry
nights sleep, you will be the security force for the night, shot gun and
buck shot is optional, smack them with a piece of spar stock if you want.
Hope the weather holds out, and looking forward to seeing you all,
Shad
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Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
Red Stewart field really appeals to me. It's only about an hour and 15 minutes
away, has a grass field, and they fly j3 cubs. I called today and they seemed
real friendly.
Thanks
--------
John
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Subject: | Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Mr, Jason Holmes, will you be flying in or driving? If flying what type of aircraft?
The field is supposed to go public (or might already be, I honestly do
not know) and the owner said he had or was putting out a notam for tailwheels
only. The field does have tricycle aircraft based here, 172, and a couple homebuilts,
so just use good judgement. The field is fairly smooth with a couple
bumps that will bounce you up just when you think you greesed it on, so keep
that yoke/stick in your lap. Also a reminder to all you flying in FLY A NORTH
PATTERN, RIGHT TRAFFIC FOR 28, LEFT TRAFFIC FOR 10. And also watch out for
radio contolled aircraft at the south-west end of the field, make a pattern alt
fly over to scope it out and make sure the model club sees you then come around
and land. And to every one else who plans on flying in Piet or other please
respond so I can plan on a parking arrangement. I will keep posting off and
on the next week or so with
updates and other info.
Now it's back out to the hanger for more clean up (10:45pm)
Shad
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Subject: | Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Shad, sorry I didn't give more details in that post. I, and my Dad, will by
driving in. I have flown out of there with Bill taking lessons in the Champ
so I will just park wherever I can (probably at the hangars unless Bill
minds).
Thanks,
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying
in?
Mr, Jason Holmes, will you be flying in or driving? If flying what type of
aircraft? The field is supposed to go public (or might already be, I
honestly do not know) and the owner said he had or was putting out a notam
for tailwheels only. The field does have tricycle aircraft based here, 172,
and a couple homebuilts, so just use good judgement. The field is fairly
smooth with a couple bumps that will bounce you up just when you think you
greesed it on, so keep that yoke/stick in your lap. Also a reminder to all
you flying in FLY A NORTH PATTERN, RIGHT TRAFFIC FOR 28, LEFT TRAFFIC FOR
10. And also watch out for radio contolled aircraft at the south-west end
of the field, make a pattern alt fly over to scope it out and make sure the
model club sees you then come around and land. And to every one else who
plans on flying in Piet or other please respond so I can plan on a parking
arrangement. I will keep posting off and on the next week or so with
updates and other info.
Now it's back out to the hanger for more clean up (10:45pm)
Shad
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Subject: | Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Shad,
Good luck to you, and all the attendees. Wish I were in a position to come
myself. Sounds like loads of fun. I predict this event will be successful
, and fun will be had by all.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
PS. I met your dad at an EAA Sportair workshop "Aircraft Covering Methods"
in Columbus a few years back.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 9, 2010 9:41 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flyin
g in?
Mr, Jason Holmes, will you be flying in or driving? If flying what type
of
ircraft? The field is supposed to go public (or might already be, I hones
tly
o not know) and the owner said he had or was putting out a notam for tailw
heels
nly. The field does have tricycle aircraft based here, 172, and a couple
omebuilts, so just use good judgement. The field is fairly smooth with a
ouple bumps that will bounce you up just when you think you greesed it on,
so
eep that yoke/stick in your lap. Also a reminder to all you flying in FLY
A
ORTH PATTERN, RIGHT TRAFFIC FOR 28, LEFT TRAFFIC FOR 10. And also watch
out
or radio contolled aircraft at the south-west end of the field, make a pat
tern
lt fly over to scope it out and make sure the model club sees you then com
e
round and land. And to every one else who plans on flying in Piet or othe
r
lease respond so I can plan on a parking arrangement. I will keep posting
off
nd on the next week or so with
updates and other info.
Now it's back out to the hanger for more clean up (10:45pm)
had
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Subject: | Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Dan H., I have been to your house also, we taxied from the pumps in your sedan
when Santiago came up, Mayby next year if all goes well you'll be able to make
it, although it will be about 6-8 hrs flight time. We might try Brodhead again
in 2011, although with #2 on the way the wife might say NO!
Shad
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