---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/13/10: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:36 AM - Re: making big parts small! (Dan Yocum) 2. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: making big parts small! (Dan Yocum) 3. 05:41 AM - Re: 0200 (Dan Yocum) 4. 09:40 AM - O-200 Mount (replacing C-85) (Oscar Zuniga) 5. 11:33 AM - Re: Fw: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... (pflyboy) 6. 11:47 AM - Goldie Hoopman (dwilson) 7. 12:35 PM - Transponder Connector Depth Question (Jack) 8. 01:51 PM - Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question (Clif Dawson) 9. 04:06 PM - Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question (Jack Phillips) 10. 07:22 PM - Half moved in! (Matthew VanDervort) 11. 08:13 PM - Re: Half moved in! (H RULE) 12. 08:23 PM - Re: Half moved in! (Gary Boothe) 13. 09:12 PM - Re: Half moved in! (Matthew VanDervort) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:54 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: making big parts small! I am merely standing on the shoulders of giants. I remember you saying that's what you did and did the same. Do not archive -- yocum@gmail.com On Jun 12, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > You did that in the correct order Dan. Like a dope I cut out many of > my gussets without sanding and had to sand them individually. > > rick > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Dan Yocum wrote: > > I sanded my sheets of ply today, too. Waiting for the girls to wake > up before I crank up the table saw and make 'em little... > > do not archive > > > On 06/12/2010 03:24 PM, echobravo4 wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "echobravo4" > > 900 plywood gussets on the wall, 900 plywood gussets.... :) > > do not archive > > -------- > Earl Brown > > I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended > up where I intended to be. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301013#301013 > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:36 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: making big parts small! Palm sander with 100 grit and about a minute a side - just enough to knock the sheen off. -- yocum@gmail.com On Jun 12, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > Yes Mark, I tried sanding several of my 1/16" gussets on a disk > sander (until a fair amount of my fingernails were sanded off). > > do not archive > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:34 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > I did the same thing Rick... except my count was a little over 1000 > pieces since I installed uprights in front and behind each spar, > plus the additional uprights on the on the 6 end ribs. I probably > would not install the uprights in front and behind each spar again. > It seems to be a bit much, and they were a minor pain to slide onto > the ribs. I think the single uprights (or maybe none at all as per > the original plans) would probably be sufficient. > > I went through a dozen emery boards sanding each of those gussets > before I glued them. A sanding block would have have required > minimal effort. I'll remember that in the future. > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301028#301028 > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:12 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 0200 Gents, The sensenich catalog has some suggestions on prop/engine combos on their experimental page. Dan -- yocum@gmail.com On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Al Bane wrote: > > Douwe, > > I don't know that yet. We're looking to "scrounge" one somewhere. > Any suggestions? The original plane was heavy. In the 1994 > Brodhead W&B measurements, it weighed in at 820 lbs. empty with the > C-85. > > Al > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Douwe Blumberg >> Sent: Jun 12, 2010 9:43 PM >> To: pietenpolgroup >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0200 >> >> > >> >> Hey Al, >> >> What prop are you going to use on the 0200? >> >> Douwe >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:39 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: O-200 Mount (replacing C-85) >From my A&P friend in New Mexico: ============ >That is true.... kind of. The Lord Mounts also move the >engine forward about 1", so it also messes up your CG, cable >lengths, fuel line, wiring and cowling. However, there is a >work around for that. Look at eBay item no. 270512715002 >for example. >When I replaced the C-85 on my KR with an O-200, I bought a set >of these adapters that fit inside the holes in the case where >the Lord mount would go and allowed me to use the small conical >mount bushings used in the rest of the A and C series engines. >Each of the mount bosses has a machined aluminum cone inserted >in the front and back to adapt the engine to the small conical >mounts. I bought these adapters from the Don Luscombe Foundation >in Chandler, AZ. They had intended to try to get a STC for >using those adapters on Luscombes, but I don't know if they ever >obtained it. However, for the Experimentals like Piets, it's a >no brainer if you don't want to change anything but the HP. >The engine is mounted to the same mount as I used for my C-85. >Even if you chose to use the Lord mounts, it would still bolt to >the same engine mount. I suspect the reason why the C-140 >required a new mount was for CG reasons, although I have seen a >C-140 upgraded to an O-200 without changing the mount. He had to >extend the cowling instead to accommodate the Lord mounts. >I have 450+ hours flying behind this configuration and haven't >noted any kind of excessive vibration passed to the airframe >by using these small conical mounts. ============ Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:53 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... From: "pflyboy" Beautiful! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301080#301080 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:28 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Goldie Hoopman From: "dwilson" HARMONY Goldie A. Hoopman, age 96 of Austin, died Tuesday, June 8, 2010, at Harmony Health Care Center in Harmony. Memorial Service will be held on Friday, June 25th, 2010, at 1:30 p.m. at the Cherry Grove United Methodist Church, with Reverend Mark Radar and Reverend Beth Perez officiating. Visitation will be on Thursday, June 24th, from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. at Clasen-Jordan Mortuary in Austin. Burial will be in the Cherry Grove Cemetery. Clasen-Jordan Mortuary, 209 2nd Ave. N.W., Austin, MN 55912. (507) 433-5727 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301083#301083 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:19 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question Trying to rough-in the location of my transponder ala Jack Phillips, in the rear center section and not sure if I will have enough depth. Can anyone tell me the approximate depth of a connector? Do they make them in a right angle? I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm using a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Jack, am I correct that I should locate left or right of center to enable seeing the numbers? Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:38 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question Transponder Connector Depth QuestionWhy not turn it upside down? Mine is going to be sideways by my right leg. Clif Seneca: "There is no great genius without a tincture of madness." I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm using a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Thanks, Jack ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:40 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question I also have a King KT96A. I would not try to mount it until you have the appropriate tray with the connecting harness. You might need to tilt it slightly to be easier to see, but I just stick my head out into the slipstream to read the numbers. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question Trying to rough-in the location of my transponder ala Jack Phillips, in the rear center section and not sure if I will have enough depth. Can anyone tell me the approximate depth of a connector? Do they make them in a right angle? I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm using a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Jack, am I correct that I should locate left or right of center to enable seeing the numbers? Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:54 PM PST US From: Matthew VanDervort Subject: Pietenpol-List: Half moved in! So I finally have a pietenpol wing in my garage, have just started removing fabric and cutting rib stitching, hoping to get the fuselage moved in eary next week. Just going to go thru it real well, and get it recovered and flying again! It hasn't flown for about 8 years or so I think, so wish me luck!! And the looks from te neighbors was priceless! Just moved into my house in April, I think the neighbors thought I was kidding when I warned them about my projects! A quick history, my grandpa built it in the late 60's, corvair powered, he all but flew the wings off it! and well I can't wait to get it going!! Sent from my iPhone
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________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:52 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Half moved in! ...a worthy grandson...and a worthy project...best of luck to you! Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 19 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matthew VanDervort Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Half moved in! So I finally have a pietenpol wing in my garage, have just started removing fabric and cutting rib stitching, hoping to get the fuselage moved in eary next week. Just going to go thru it real well, and get it recovered and flying again! It hasn't flown for about 8 years or so I think, so wish me luck!! And the looks from te neighbors was priceless! Just moved into my house in April, I think the neighbors thought I was kidding when I warned them about my projects! A quick history, my grandpa built it in the late 60's, corvair powered, he all but flew the wings off it! and well I can't wait to get it going!! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:57 PM PST US From: Matthew VanDervort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Half moved in! Grandpa has the prop! It needs revarnished, but it's safe and dry, so that is at the end of my list!! I mean... I removed everything that causes drag! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:12 PM, H RULE wrote: > I think you'll need a prop as well ! > do not archive > > From: Matthew VanDervort > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 10:21:45 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Half moved in! > > So I finally have a pietenpol wing in my garage, have just started > removing fabric and cutting rib stitching, hoping to get the > fuselage moved in eary next week. > > Just going to go thru it real well, and get it recovered and flying > again! It hasn't flown for about 8 years or so I think, so wish me > luck!! And the looks from te neighbors was priceless! Just moved > into my house in April, I think the neighbors thought I was kidding > when I warned them about my projects! > > A quick history, my grandpa built it in the late 60's, corvair > powered, he all but flew the wings off it! and well I can't wait to > get it going!! > > > Sent from my iPhone > 
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