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1. 03:07 AM - Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question (Jack)
2. 04:09 AM - Re: Half moved in! (H RULE)
3. 05:00 AM - Tough choices (Kringle)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Tough choices (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 05:59 AM - Re: Tough choices (Gary Boothe)
6. 06:07 AM - Re: Tough choices (Kringle)
7. 06:10 AM - Re: Half moved in! (Jeff Boatright)
8. 06:14 AM - Re: Tough choices (K5YAC)
9. 06:25 AM - Re: Tough choices (Kringle)
10. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Tough choices (Jeff Boatright)
11. 06:56 AM - Re: Tough choices (K5YAC)
12. 07:53 AM - Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question (K5YAC)
13. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question (Matt Wash)
14. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Tough choices (Ryan Mueller)
15. 09:23 AM - Re: Tough choices (Kringle)
16. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: Tough choices (Matthew VanDervort)
17. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: Tough choices (Dan Yocum)
18. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Tough choices (Dan Yocum)
19. 12:06 PM - Re: Sport pilot training (onedgerc@yahoo.com)
20. 12:39 PM - Corvair Progress (TOM STINEMETZE)
21. 01:44 PM - Auction (Dick N)
22. 02:38 PM - Re: Corvair Progress (Jack Phillips)
23. 02:45 PM - Re: Corvair Progress (Gary Boothe)
24. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: Tough choices (Peter W Johnson)
25. 05:59 PM - Re: Tough choices (K5YAC)
26. 07:10 PM - Re: Half moved in! (Pieti Lowell)
27. 07:41 PM - Re: Re: Half moved in! (Matthew VanDervort)
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| Subject: | Transponder Connector Depth Question |
Thanks for the pictures Jack. I have the tray and may get the harness
today. Then I have to figure out an encoder, antenna, etc.
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question
I also have a King KT96A. I would not try to mount it until you have the
appropriate tray with the connecting harness. You might need to tilt it
slightly to be easier to see, but I just stick my head out into the
slipstream to read the numbers.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question
Trying to rough-in the location of my transponder ala Jack Phillips, in the
rear center section and not sure if I will have enough depth. Can anyone
tell me the approximate depth of a connector? Do they make them in a right
angle? I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm
using a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Jack, am I
correct that I should locate left or right of center to enable seeing the
numbers?
Thanks,
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Half moved in! |
Sounds like your just about ready to go;good luck and enjoy!=0Ado not archi
ve=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Matthew VanDervor
t <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <piet
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Half moved in!=0A=0A=0AGrandpa has the prop! It needs
revarnished, but it's safe and dry, so that is at the end of my list!! -
-=0A=0AI mean... -I removed everything that causes drag!=0A=0ASent from
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m> wrote:=0A=0A=0AI think you'll need a prop as well-!=0A>do not archive
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ent: Sun, June 13, 2010 10:21:45 PM=0A>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Half moved
in!=0A>=0A>So I finally have a pietenpol wing in my garage, have just start
ed removing fabric and cutting rib stitching, hoping to get the fuselage mo
ved in eary next week.=0A>=0A>Just going to go thru it real well, and get i
t recovered and flying again! It hasn't flown for about 8 years or so I thi
nk, so wish me luck!! And the looks from te neighbors was priceless! Just m
oved into my house in April, I think the neighbors thought I was kidding wh
en I warned them about my projects!=0A>=0A>A quick history, my grandpa buil
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I ordered my plans this weekend! My first major decision is where to buy wood.
Since I am woodworker and have a fully equipped shop I decided to purchase rough
sawn wood. I am going to check with some local wood companies but will most
likely end up buying from McCormick lumber in Wisconsin. This will give me
another reason to go to brodhead and help justify the cost of buying precut
wood from the aircraft suppliers.
Reading the archived posts at this point is a double edged sword. Although you
gain a lot of information you also read all the modifications people have made
to the plans. It is a bit confusing to a beginner to comprehend all this information.
I was told to "search the archives!" in one of my first posts and
understand that you veterans may get tired of seeing the same newbie questions
over and over. But, keep in mind at this point all this information is very intimidating.
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
John,
Bring on the questions.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 7:00 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tough choices
I ordered my plans this weekend! My first major decision is where to buy
wood.
ince I am woodworker and have a fully equipped shop I decided to purchase
rough
awn wood. I am going to check with some local wood companies but will mos
t
ikely end up buying from McCormick lumber in Wisconsin. This will give me
nother reason to go to brodhead and help justify the cost of buying precut
wood
rom the aircraft suppliers.
Reading the archived posts at this point is a double edged sword. Althoug
h you
ain a lot of information you also read all the modifications people have
made
o the plans. It is a bit confusing to a beginner to comprehend all this
nformation. I was told to "search the archives!" in one of my first posts
and
nderstand that you veterans may get tired of seeing the same newbie questi
ons
ver and over. But, keep in mind at this point all this information is very
ntimidating.
--------
ohn
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John,
I completely understand your frustration with the archives, yet I know you
will find them useful, especially late at night when you want to see if
someone else has done what you are considering....
By making the journey to Mecca (Brodhead), you will see that very few people
follow the plans 100%! And, as long as your own ideas are based on solid A/C
building techniques, you can do most anything you want. This list is great
place to bounce those ideas off of, if you feel you need the support.
Looking forward to your first question...wanna know what kind wood you can
use, other than Spruce??
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
19 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tough choices
I ordered my plans this weekend! My first major decision is where to buy
wood. Since I am woodworker and have a fully equipped shop I decided to
purchase rough sawn wood. I am going to check with some local wood
companies but will most likely end up buying from McCormick lumber in
Wisconsin. This will give me another reason to go to brodhead and help
justify the cost of buying precut wood from the aircraft suppliers.
Reading the archived posts at this point is a double edged sword. Although
you gain a lot of information you also read all the modifications people
have made to the plans. It is a bit confusing to a beginner to comprehend
all this information. I was told to "search the archives!" in one of my
first posts and understand that you veterans may get tired of seeing the
same newbie questions over and over. But, keep in mind at this point all
this information is very intimidating.
--------
John
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
Thanks Dan,
Has anyone done the math to figure out how much rough lumber is needed
for the complete project? McCormick says their boards are 1inch thick by 5 to
9 inches wide.
If I build a 3 piece wing versus a 1 piece does this mean I could take it apart
and trailer my plane to distant fly-ins? I don't have themplans yet so how long
would the material need to be for my spars?
Thanks
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Half moved in! |
Matt,
Is your grandpa Big Jim Vandervort? You are not kidding about "all
but flew the wings off it!" I still can remember one Brodhead when he
came SCREAMING into the pattern about a nanosecond ahead of a
thunderstorm. He said he'd flown it that way all the way up from
Ohio. It always seemed to me that his throttle was binary: WFO or
OFF. How is he doing?
Jeff
>So I finally have a pietenpol wing in my garage, have just started
>removing fabric and cutting rib stitching, hoping to get the
>fuselage moved in eary next week.
>
>Just going to go thru it real well, and get it recovered and flying
>again! It hasn't flown for about 8 years or so I think, so wish me
>luck!! And the looks from te neighbors was priceless! Just moved
>into my house in April, I think the neighbors thought I was kidding
>when I warned them about my projects!
>
>A quick history, my grandpa built it in the late 60's, corvair
>powered, he all but flew the wings off it! and well I can't wait to
>get it going!!
>
>
>Attachment conv
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"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
Don't be intimidated... I am a relative newcomer and I too was a bit intimidated
early on. Keep this in mind as you research all the old posts... decisions
for most of the modifications will not need to be made for quite some time (depending
on where you start), so you will have a little while to consider which
ones you really want to implement. This is one of the reasons I started with
the wings. I knew I was going to build a 3-piece wing, and my ribs were to
be built using the Pietenpol plans, so I went ahead and got busy on that. In
addition, many suggested starting on the wings as because the material is relatively
cheap and they will keep you busy for a long time while you research, study,
and consider other aspects of the construction. I've been working on my
project for 16 months (not very consistently a times)... I'm nearing completion
on my wings and center section, and I am glad that I took others advice to
go this route. Not only is it a nice feeling to have two complete wing panels
in the shop, but I've resolved several of the very questions that you are probably
considering. Oh, I've still got plenty of questions, but I've had time
to study the drawings, comb over photos at westcoastpiet.com, watch Mike Cuy's
video a dozen times, watch Gantzer's video a dozen times, etc.
I've found that many of these guys are pretty helpful... some are obviously expert
craftsmen, but ALL of them were where you and I are at some point in their
project. I don't think it is necessarily true that people don't want to answer
the same questions over and over... oh, perhaps there are some run of the mill
questions, but generally speaking, I think they are trying to refer us new
guys to information that may have been covered thoroughly and clearly by another
builder, perhaps someone who is not around or active on the boards to repost
the information. Maybe I'm way off... but it seems that way to me.
Either way, I wouldn't be afraid to ask anything. Someone will be along to help
you figure out what you are struggling with. I will say this... your decision
to go to Brodhead this year may prove to be more valuable than all of your
web research. Show up with a small tape measure, a note pad and a camera and
you will leave with several good ideas that you can consider with a little more
confidence.
Hey, at least you didn't walk in here and "disconcert the masses" as they say.
I managed to do that right off the bat. How did I do that you ask? Well, you'll
have to "search the archives" for that answer. LOL!
--------
Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
Thanks Mark, that made me feel better. Do I need to contact the FAA before I start
building? I understand they need to inspect the aircraft at several stages
of construction.
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
I've have disassembled and reassembled our Piet twice. My guess is
that if you built a Piet with ease of dis/re-assembly as a goal, you
could come up with something that could be dis/re-assembled in about
two hours, with lots of practice. Maybe. Definitely lots of practice
and maybe you'd get it to an hour. And a friend or three to help. Not
only would you need to take the wings off, but you'll probably want
to take the tail completely apart, too. I think the horizontal
stabilizer is too wide for road trailering (I could be wrong about
that), but I wouldn't want it or the rudder taking all the shocks
from the road.
I think that the biggest challenges would be connecting the control
cables and getting the final rigging correct. You would have to come
up with ways that precluded having to disconnect via turnbuckles.
The Dawn Patrol guys (builders and pilots of scale Nieuports) have
this down to an art. Check their website(s) for more info.
I don't think it's something I would do - but each to his own!
>
>Thanks Dan,
>
>Has anyone done the math to figure out how much rough lumber is needed
>for the complete project? McCormick says their boards are 1inch
>thick by 5 to 9 inches wide.
>
>If I build a 3 piece wing versus a 1 piece does this mean I could
>take it apart and trailer my plane to distant fly-ins? I don't have
>themplans yet so how long would the material need to be for my spars?
>
>Thanks
>
>--------
>John
>
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
Kringle wrote:
> Thanks Mark, that made me feel better. Do I need to contact the FAA before I
start building? I understand they need to inspect the aircraft at several stages
of construction.
Haaa ha!! I'm not sure if you are being serious or jerking my chain!
I'll put it like this... I've not had an "official" inspection yet. So far, there
hasn't been much to inspect, but with my wings all framed up, I do intend
to have our DAR come take a look before I change gears to other assemblies. Other
builders have stopped by periodically and told me that I'm doing a good job,
so I've kind of taken their experienced and favorable assessment as confirmation
that I'm on the right path.
Honestly, as our DAR told us during last month's meeting... it is never too early
to get you technical councilor or DAR involved in your project. All of our
circumstances are different. I often forget that I have the luxury of being
on a field where our EAA chapter is headquartered and several builders live...
many of them are just a phone call and golf cart ride away if I needed an expert
opinion, and at times they just stop by whenever the doors are open to see
how I'm doing. Some people are going this alone, far from experienced builders...
perhaps you are one? Either way, getting others involved in overseeing
your work isn't a bad idea.
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question |
Yeah, thanks for the photos! I'm based right next to Class-C and will likely install
a radio and transponder. I really like your install. Now, if I can just
combine the "Cuy Cargo Bay" with the "Phillips Comm Stack." Actually, my radio
will be an Icom A-22 mounted near the panel, so I'll just need room for the
transponder. I think I can make it happen.
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question |
Not that it's the most economical solution, but there are some 'remote
mount' transponders.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/trigtt21.php as an example.
~Matt
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:52 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah, thanks for the photos! I'm based right next to Class-C and will
> likely install a radio and transponder. I really like your install. Now,
> if I can just combine the "Cuy Cargo Bay" with the "Phillips Comm Stack."
> Actually, my radio will be an Icom A-22 mounted near the panel, so I'll
> just need room for the transponder. I think I can make it happen.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301184#301184
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
Here are a couple different material lists. The first one is from Peter in
Australia. He built a "long fuselage" Piet:
http://www.cpc-world.com/images/mat_list.jpg
<http://www.cpc-world.com/images/mat_list.jpg>This is another list that has
been floating around for a while. It may be for the original "short
fuselage", so you would want to reconcile it with your plans when you get
them:
http://forums.matronics.com/files/woodlist_150.jpg
Or you can wait until you get your plans and sit down with a calculator and
a notepad and work up your own list, using either of these as guides.
One of the main advantages of the three piece wing is that you don't have to
wrangle/make room for a 29' foot wing around your shop when you are
building. It's also easier to transport it from your shop to the airport
when the time comes. To me, however, the idea of disassembling and
trailering the airplane to fly-ins sort of hits a point of diminishing
returns. Every time you take it apart, load it on to a trailer, drive it
from point A to point B, and reassemble it, you are exponentially increasing
the chances of damaging the airframe. Since you did say trailering, I assume
you mean loaded on to a trailer, and not actually towing the airplane behind
a vehicle. Nothing good could come from that. :P
How far away are the "distant" fly-ins that you intend to go to? It's not
like you can't undertake longer cross country flights in a Piet. Dan Yocum
took delivery of his Piet last year, and it flew to Northern IL from San
Luis Obispo, CA, via Dayton and Oshkosh, and it competed in an air race
along the way! Jack Phillips has flown his Piet to Brodhead a number of
times from the east coast.
Ryan
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dan,
>
> Has anyone done the math to figure out how much rough lumber is needed
> for the complete project? McCormick says their boards are 1inch thick by 5
> to 9 inches wide.
>
> If I build a 3 piece wing versus a 1 piece does this mean I could take it
> apart and trailer my plane to distant fly-ins? I don't have themplans yet
> so how long would the material need to be for my spars?
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301157#301157
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
I never had any intentions to trailer the aircraft until a friend this weekend
thought it would be a good reason to build the three part wing. I've only read
that building the three part wing is easier in small shops. Just wanted to
know others opinion.
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
I just moved a one peice wing a couple days ago, I rented the 26' uhaul,
24' not counting the overhead, i "hung" the wing on the wall with 2'
wide strips of carpet screwed into the wall on two spots, it survived
a 70 mile drive with no problem, I forgot to take pics if it thou
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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> I never had any intentions to trailer the aircraft until a friend
> this weekend thought it would be a good reason to build the three
> part wing. I've only read that building the three part wing is
> easier in small shops. Just wanted to know others opinion.
>
> --------
> John
>
>
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> If I build a 3 piece wing versus a 1 piece does this mean I could
take it apart and trailer my plane to distant fly-ins? I don't have
themplans yet so how long would the material need to be for my spars?
No fly-in is too distant if you have enough time.
N8031 came Airventure all the way from San Luis Obispo, CA. It was
50hrs of flight time over about 7 days of flying.
;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
On 06/14/2010 10:20 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> How far away are the "distant" fly-ins that you intend to go to? It's
> not like you can't undertake longer cross country flights in a Piet. Dan
> Yocum took delivery of his Piet last year, and it flew to Northern IL
> from San Luis Obispo, CA, via Dayton and Oshkosh, and it competed in an
> air race along the way! Jack Phillips has flown his Piet to Brodhead a
> number of times from the east coast.
Hm. Day (hour?) late and a dollar short. That's me!
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
I learned at waynesville back in the mid 90's. I am so glad I learned
how to fly there. It couldn't be any better for learning how to fly
taildraggers. You will learn how to fly.... At the same time you will
be a student in learning what grass roots really means.
Waynesville is family owned, so when you go to fly you will meet
Cubby, Cathy, Emerson, Sara, Kim, Chris, plus some new grankids
running. These lndividuals makes Waynesville the place it is today.
They still teach students in J-3 Cubs, Champ, Stearman, and they may
have the T craft still up. They also have some nosedraggers that you
can rent.
I would recommend anyone to travel to waynesville for a good airport
atmosphere.
Dewey
Sent from my I touch.
On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I think about some of the landings I made when I was learning
> long ago for my Private license I am very glad I was in a rented
> Cessna 150 with that one piece spring steel gear rather than any
> aircraft I had built.
>
> I instructed for three years long ago (including in Super Cubs and
> Decathlons) I agree that you should at least get through solo in
> good trainer aircraft first and add the taildragger complications
> later.
>
> rick
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if
> that is what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
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| Subject: | Corvair Progress |
It's nice to be home and back on the list again. My trip to Chicago to
pick up the Corvair from Ryan Mueller went without a hitch. The engine is
now safely in my shop with cleaning/painting going on. Here's a photo of
me with Ryan after just blowing "taps" on my new stainless steel intake/bug
le. Ryan is the one in shorts and a T-shirt with airplane pictures. I am
the other one in shorts with an aircraft related T-shirt. Oh yeah, I also
have a Pietenpol ball cap on. You will be pleased to note that the crank
made it all the way back to Kansas without snappin'.
Stinemetze
N328X
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Hey all
I just got an Auction notice from Starman Brothers today that looks
mighty good. You can check them out at www.starmanauctions.com There
are lots of engines and good stuff.
Dick
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| Subject: | Corvair Progress |
.You will be pleased to note that the crank made it all the way back to
Kansas without snappin'.
Stinemetze
N328X
You were very, very lucky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Corvair Progress |
Congratulations, Tom!!
That thing in your hands looks flawed.you better send it to me for disposal.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
19 ribs done
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Progress
It's nice to be home and back on the list again. My trip to Chicago to pick
up the Corvair from Ryan Mueller went without a hitch. The engine is now
safely in my shop with cleaning/painting going on. Here's a photo of me
with Ryan after just blowing "taps" on my new stainless steel intake/bugle.
Ryan is the one in shorts and a T-shirt with airplane pictures. I am the
other one in shorts with an aircraft related T-shirt. Oh yeah, I also have
a Pietenpol ball cap on. You will be pleased to note that the crank made it
all the way back to Kansas without snappin'.
Stinemetze
N328X
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
Hi Guys,
I know you guys can't purchase the Jim Wills plans, but they show an aileron
quick connect system, quick release wing brace wires and wing attach points
to hang the wing on the fuse. You build something to attach the tail wheel
to a tow hitch and away you go.
I have attached a picture (if allowed) to show the wings fitted along side
the fuse. There should be some more pictures of the quick connect on the web
site.
It still takes a while to rig but it is easier than taking everything to
pieces.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://pietenpol.cpc-world.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Monday, 14 June 2010 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tough choices
I've have disassembled and reassembled our Piet twice. My guess is
that if you built a Piet with ease of dis/re-assembly as a goal, you
could come up with something that could be dis/re-assembled in about
two hours, with lots of practice. Maybe. Definitely lots of practice
and maybe you'd get it to an hour. And a friend or three to help. Not
only would you need to take the wings off, but you'll probably want
to take the tail completely apart, too. I think the horizontal
stabilizer is too wide for road trailering (I could be wrong about
that), but I wouldn't want it or the rudder taking all the shocks
from the road.
I think that the biggest challenges would be connecting the control
cables and getting the final rigging correct. You would have to come
up with ways that precluded having to disconnect via turnbuckles.
The Dawn Patrol guys (builders and pilots of scale Nieuports) have
this down to an art. Check their website(s) for more info.
I don't think it's something I would do - but each to his own!
>
>Thanks Dan,
>
>Has anyone done the math to figure out how much rough lumber is needed
>for the complete project? McCormick says their boards are 1inch
>thick by 5 to 9 inches wide.
>
>If I build a 3 piece wing versus a 1 piece does this mean I could
>take it apart and trailer my plane to distant fly-ins? I don't have
>themplans yet so how long would the material need to be for my spars?
>
>Thanks
>
>--------
>John
>
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Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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Dang Peter, that thing looks like its ready for carrier service!
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Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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| Subject: | Re: Half moved in! |
I saw this Piet a good number of years ago as well as your Grandpa " Big Jim" He
is the best story teller ever.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Half moved in! |
And i will swear that everyone of those stories are true! And might
have a couple to add myself! Sure wish i would have written them all
down...
Like the time we hit powerlines I the tcraft, and the lady across the
road came out screaming because we turned off her afternoon soap
operas! :)
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:09 PM, "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
>
> I saw this Piet a good number of years ago as well as your Grandpa "
> Big Jim" He is the best story teller ever.
> Pieti Lowell
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