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1. 03:40 AM - Re: A65s are bulletproof! (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:17 AM - Re: Tough choices (Kringle)
3. 04:23 AM - Avionics Publications (Jack)
4. 05:02 AM - Re: A65s are bulletproof! (Dan Yocum)
5. 05:24 AM - Re: Final inspection scheduled (Jim Ash)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: A65s are bulletproof! (Dan Yocum)
7. 07:07 AM - tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering (shad bell)
8. 07:11 AM - Re: Final inspection scheduled (Bill Church)
9. 07:31 AM - Re: Tough choices (Bill Church)
10. 07:43 AM - Re: A65s are bulletproof! (Jim Ash)
11. 08:10 AM - Trial Balloon (coxwelljon)
12. 08:37 AM - Re: OT :: Trial Balloon (Wayne Bressler)
13. 09:01 AM - Re: Trial Balloon (TOM STINEMETZE)
14. 09:23 AM - Re: plug wire test ? (GliderMike)
15. 09:37 AM - Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering (airlion)
16. 09:44 AM - Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering (Ryan Mueller)
17. 10:40 AM - Re: Trial Balloon (coxwelljon)
18. 10:56 AM - Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
19. 11:15 AM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (TOM STINEMETZE)
20. 11:39 AM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (John Hofmann)
21. 11:39 AM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (baiquemaique)
22. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: plug wire test ? (Jeff Boatright)
23. 11:44 AM - Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering (shad bell)
24. 12:12 PM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (Ryan Mueller)
25. 12:48 PM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
26. 01:02 PM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (John Hofmann)
27. 07:13 PM - Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering (shad bell)
28. 08:14 PM - Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... (ldmill)
29. 08:37 PM - Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... (Jim)
30. 08:38 PM - Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... (Ray Krause)
31. 08:45 PM - Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels (Jim)
32. 08:53 PM - Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... (ldmill)
33. 09:02 PM - Re: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... (Matthew VanDervort)
34. 09:04 PM - Just made a website (Matthew VanDervort)
35. 09:23 PM - Re: Just made a website (GliderMike)
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| Subject: | A65s are bulletproof! |
I agree that Harrisons in Indiana do really good work for a reasonable
price. When I broke a piston ring in my A65 on the way back from Sun
'n'
Fun (and made it back with "0" compression in one cylinder) I sent the
jug
to them to have it chromed because the broken ring scored the cylinder
wall
badly. Total cost: $207. However, it was the better part of a month
getting the jug back from them.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Recine
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65s are bulletproof!
Harrison in Indy does a nice job for reasonable price and they turn
around
fast.
Contact me off list for info
John
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From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65s are bulletproof!
Dan,
I don't know what you are looking at for a timeline in getting it put
back
together, but if you are trying for Brodhead you may want to call up
Poplar
Grove Airmotive and see what they have in stock for cylinders. If you
weren't overly concerned with getting that exact same cylinder back they
may
have an exchange cylinder done and sitting on the shelf waiting to go.
Sorry to hear the bad news. I hope the repairs go smoothly,
Ryan
On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:33 PM, "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
wrote:
Dan,
Gibson aviation in El Reno, OK overhauled two cylinders for me last
year.
Cost was about $800 for the pair. Not bad, and they looked like new
when I
got them back. They usually have ads in TAP, or Google will get you
their
number.
These small Continentals are indestructible...mine was last overhauled
in
'67, 10 years before I was born, and I've added 400hrs to it in the last
six
years Last year, it carried me to OshKosh and back with no complaints.
Actually, those two cylinders are all I've actually done to the engine,
and
that was just a pushrod tube seal replacement where I went overboard
with
"while I'm in there" syndrome.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
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On Jun 15, 2010 7:41 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I had the condition inspection done on N8031 today. There is a
short list of squawks but the biggun' was that cylinder #4 had a
compression of about 20lbs and you could just hear the air rushing out
the exhaust valve. It made me kind of sick to hear it, knowing that
was the sound of money slipping around the valve and out into the
aether.
Looking at the amount of carbon encrusting the piston head this
sucker's been in a bad way for quite some time. Which, strangely,
heartened me. If this thing can keep running in this state for this
long, then these little engines are just about indestructible.
Both compression rings were broken and both valves refused to seat.
There was some scoring and pitting on the valve stems.
Well, it's gonna cost a small fortune, but N8031 should climb like a
homesick angel when all is said and done.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
How long are the 1" longerons? I have not received my plans yet.
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| Subject: | Avionics Publications |
Morning all,
Found a great site, Mike Ganby approved sharing a link to his avionics
publications page, http://www.mikeg.net/hobbies/aviation/avionics/index.htm
. Great info but I'm still seeking install and maintenance manuals for my
KT 76A transponder. I also saved the link to my favorite's page at
www.textors.com.
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: A65s are bulletproof! |
Hey Steve,
The cylinder is on it's way to Poplar Grove care of the Eric and Lon
Dienst delivery service - somehow I doubt Lon will transport it in his
Chester Jeep, though. ;-)
$400/cylinder sounds like a decent price. I hope mine comes in
somewhere close, but Eric is already prepping me for a much higher bill.
I hope that is due to him not knowing what it will actually cost...
Did you get new valves with that overhaul?
Thanks,
Dan
On 06/15/2010 08:33 PM, Steve Ruse wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Gibson aviation in El Reno, OK overhauled two cylinders for me last
> year. Cost was about $800 for the pair. Not bad, and they looked like
> new when I got them back. They usually have ads in TAP, or Google will
> get you their number.
>
> These small Continentals are indestructible...mine was last overhauled
> in '67, 10 years before I was born, and I've added 400hrs to it in the
> last six years Last year, it carried me to OshKosh and back with no
> complaints. Actually, those two cylinders are all I've actually done to
> the engine, and that was just a pushrod tube seal replacement where I
> went overboard with "while I'm in there" syndrome.
>
> Steve Ruse
> Norman, OK
>
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Jun 15, 2010 7:41 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well, I had the condition inspection done on N8031 today. There is a
> short list of squawks but the biggun' was that cylinder #4 had a
> compression of about 20lbs and you could just hear the air rushing out
> the exhaust valve. It made me kind of sick to hear it, knowing that
> was the sound of money slipping around the valve and out into the
> aether.
>
> Looking at the amount of carbon encrusting the piston head this
> sucker's been in a bad way for quite some time. Which, strangely,
> heartened me. If this thing can keep running in this state for this
> long, then these little engines are just about indestructible.
>
> Both compression rings were broken and both valves refused to seat.
> There was some scoring and pitting on the valve stems.
>
> Well, it's gonna cost a small fortune, but N8031 should climb like a
> homesick angel when all is said and done.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> yocum@gmail.com
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>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Final inspection scheduled |
Didn't realize you were a 241 member. I've known Alan Abell for a good number of
years now. I went to a couple 241 meetings when I lived in the area, but ended
up moving before really getting going.
Good luck with the inspection.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Jun 15, 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Final inspection scheduled
Hello everybody,
The final inspection for NX929DH is scheduled for Monday, 6/21/10. I have hired
a local DAR that I know from EAA Chapter 241 (Dekalb, IL.) of which I am a member.
I have submitted (scanned and emailed) all the necessary paperwork to him,
and it is tentatively approved. So now I just have a few details left to attend
to over this coming weekend. I need to mark my throttle (open, closed),
mark my elevator trim mechanism, paint some lettering on my fuel filler cap (type
of fuel, minimum octane), and install my aircraft data plate. This completes
the end of the construction phase. I can't hardly believe it myself. I keep
searching my brain for the next detail to attend to, and I keep coming up empty.
It is a great feeling.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: A65s are bulletproof! |
Hi Ben,
Did I notice? Maybe subconsciously I did, but my experience with hand
propping is limited to N8031 and a J-3 with a C-85, so I'm still a
newbie. I did think it was a bit weird that every few pulls the prop
would turn through another 180 degrees. I just chalked it up to my
yooge muscles! <laugh>
Eric told me about a Cub that did the same wobble around the crank shaft
that yours did and it ran just fine, too. The oil pressure on that one
was near zero and they actually ran it at near zero!
Am I going to do the other cylinders, too? Probably not until I see a
drop in compression. The others cylinders are running 75, 72, and 72,
respectively.
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering |
To Don, Skipp, Mike,Frank, and anyone else flying to the Ohio Piet Gathering on
friday evening to camp out: The dummy from the White House will be in Columbus
on friday, the tfr includes OH71, as the no fly zone from about 3pm-5:30 pm.
Look it up online to get a picture, or maybe one of you computer savy guys
could attatch it to a response to this e-mail. Of course you could fly in anyway,
I think the f-16's would have a hell of a time flying at 40mph.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Final inspection scheduled |
Dan,
Way to go!
Sometimes I search my brain and come up empty, too. Just never thought of it as
a great feeling... :)
BC
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tough choices |
The 1" longerons go all the way from the firewall to the tailpost. :)
Seriously, though, the "Improved" 1933 fuselage is 163" long, and the loooong (supplementary
plans) fuselage is 172 3/8" long, so you will need 4 pieces about
15 feet long.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: A65s are bulletproof! |
You should pull your prop through four blades every once in a while to check compression,
as you found. In a four-cylinder, four stroke engine, one blade = one
cylinder. I usually do it after fueling, so by then, my engine is warm and
well-lubed, not (intentionally) on the first start of the day.
Another way is to run the engine initially for maybe a minute, then shut it down.
If you've got compress problems, the valve cover for the dead one will be cooler
to the touch than the others.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
>Sent: Jun 16, 2010 10:02 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65s are bulletproof!
>
>
>Hi Ben,
>
>Did I notice? Maybe subconsciously I did, but my experience with hand
>propping is limited to N8031 and a J-3 with a C-85, so I'm still a
>newbie. I did think it was a bit weird that every few pulls the prop
>would turn through another 180 degrees. I just chalked it up to my
>yooge muscles! <laugh>
>
>Eric told me about a Cub that did the same wobble around the crank shaft
>that yours did and it ran just fine, too. The oil pressure on that one
>was near zero and they actually ran it at near zero!
>
>Am I going to do the other cylinders, too? Probably not until I see a
>drop in compression. The others cylinders are running 75, 72, and 72,
>respectively.
>
>Dan
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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I'm am in the midst of building / rebuilding someone else's GN-1 project which
is keeping me quite busy. I have been thinking, however, about venturing into
a material kit production sometime in the future.
I work in CAD on a daily basis and have a client with a large wood and aluminum
cutting CNC setup. (Will handle 4 x 8 sheets, and longer with multiple setups).
The thought has occurred to me that pre-cut material kits may be of some interest
to builders who do not already have a well equipped shop but want to build.
I really haven't investigated liability issues or copyright issues and
my intent would not be to redraw any plans other than for assembly modifications
that might be included.
I am just thinking out loud (but not too loud) and would appreciate some feedback.
As I said I have a current project that will keep me busy for some time,
but I am thinking about something else to do when it is done.
I have been practicing architecture for more years than I wish to admit and would
like to apply some of my skills to another endeavor. I love aviation and nostalgia
type aircraft. The Pietenpol certainly falls into that catagory.
Jon Coxwell
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: OT :: Trial Balloon |
Jon,
I've always thought there might be a small market for CNC rib jigs.
For a good example, take a look at what Steen Aero Lab has. You could
cut them for a large number of homebuilts, and maybe even some of the
vintage aircraft, too. A lot of people complain about building ribs,
and having multiple, identical, easy to use jigs might be desireable
for some folks.
Steen also sells a wing kit with pre-cut gussets.
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:09 AM, "coxwelljon"
<coxwelljon@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >
>
> I'm am in the midst of building / rebuilding someone else's GN-1
> project which is keeping me quite busy. I have been thinking,
> however, about venturing into a material kit production sometime in
> the future.
>
> I work in CAD on a daily basis and have a client with a large wood
> and aluminum cutting CNC setup. (Will handle 4 x 8 sheets, and
> longer with multiple setups). The thought has occurred to me that
> pre-cut material kits may be of some interest to builders who do not
> already have a well equipped shop but want to build. I really
> haven't investigated liability issues or copyright issues and my
> intent would not be to redraw any plans other than for assembly
> modifications that might be included.
>
> I am just thinking out loud (but not too loud) and would appreciate
> some feedback. As I said I have a current project that will keep me
> busy for some time, but I am thinking about something else to do
> when it is done.
>
> I have been practicing architecture for more years than I wish to
> admit and would like to apply some of my skills to another
> endeavor. I love aviation and nostalgia type aircraft. The
> Pietenpol certainly falls into that catagory.
>
> Jon Coxwell
>
> --------
> Jon Coxwell
> GN-1 Builder
> Recycle and preserve the planet
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301417#301417
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trial Balloon |
pre-cut material kits may be of some interest to builders who do not
already have a well equipped shop but want to build.
Jon:
Early on in my project I would have been begging you to do it. Having
absolutely no experience in metal work and not being able to find any
shops in the area that will do piece work, I looked hard for a source of
pre-cut metal parts. I found and purchased a lot of my initial metal
parts from Ken Perkins in Olathe, KS. His stuff is superb and I am glad I
did it that way. However, I also wanted to develop this skill for myself
as a lot of my parts needed to be slightly customized. I discovered that
I could create my own metal parts with a metal cutting blade in a jigsaw,
lots of patience, a mill-bastard file, lots of patience, a small bench
grinder, significant amounts of elbow grease, and lots of patience. My
parts are not as uniform and finished looking as the CNC or waterjet parts
but they will be entirely safe and functional. This was also a good
excuse for me to purchase an oxy-acetylene set which I am having a blast
with. (The fun-type blast, not the explosive kind.)
Anyway, should you choose to proceed I am sure you will have customers.
If you are going to sell these parts I would suggest that you put together
a good disclaimer of liability to protect yourself. Check out the one
that William Wynne uses for his Corvair parts. (www.flycorvair.com)
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
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| Subject: | Re: plug wire test ? |
Mike, the lead tester used for shielded wires should be able to be used for unshielded
wires also. My best guess is you have a wire with a break in the wire
itself, or the insulation is breaking down, and arcing to ground, somewhere between
the mag and the plug. Best guess would be the latter choice, and could
even be several wires arcing to ground. just enough to give you a weak spark.
The testers we had at school, didn't seem to hook up like you would think they do. I remember if you hooked them up the way it appeared to supposed to be, you would get a serious charge out if the deal when you pushed the test button. Aircraft Tool Supply carries a tester here: http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/search_result.aspx that is used to test high tension spark plug leads. It may be available elsewhere for less. The reason I looked at their site, is they have a package deal with a timing light, the lead tester, and some other stuff, and that is the package the school had.
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering |
Don"t bet on it as I was caught in a tfr in my cessna doing circles over a lake.
They were using a helicopter flying right on my ass, I never saw em. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 10:07:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering
To Don, Skipp, Mike,Frank, and anyone else flying to the Ohio Piet Gathering on
friday evening to camp out: The dummy from the White House will be in Columbus
on friday, the tfr includes OH71, as the no fly zone from about 3pm-5:30 pm.
Look it up online to get a picture, or maybe one of you computer savy guys
could attatch it to a response to this e-mail. Of course you could fly in anyway,
I think the f-16's would have a hell of a time flying at 40mph.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering |
Here you go:
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_6255.html
<http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_6255.html>
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:07 AM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> To Don, Skipp, Mike,Frank, and anyone else flying to the Ohio Piet
> Gathering on friday evening to camp out: The dummy from the White House
> will be in Columbus on friday, the tfr includes OH71, as the no fly zone
> from about 3pm-5:30 pm. Look it up online to get a picture, or maybe one of
> you computer savy guys could attatch it to a response to this e-mail. Of
> course you could fly in anyway, I think the f-16's would have a hell of a
> time flying at 40mph.
>
> Shad
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trial Balloon |
Thanks Tom,
I like you have been making and re-making my metal parts by hand. I don't have
access to a metal cutting CNC but do have access to a wood, plastic, and aluminum
cutting CNC. It is just a large flat bed plotter with an array of router
bits rather than pens. I was thinking that one could mark out the metal hardware
on sheets of 4130 ready for cutting by hand. That could probably save some
material and time.
The repetitive wood assemblies like ribs, routed or built up spars, fuselage gussets,
and other wood members would be an advantage in time and material.
I have only been repairing and modifying yet the task of ordering in enough quantity
to reduce shipping costs can some times be daunting.
Personally I like to build from scratch, but I have a friend who is building a
Rans from a kit. There are some real advantages.
Jon Coxwell
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
Gentlemen,
(and I use that term with reservations) You seem like a fun group of guys
who like to needle each other and encourage each other's building
efforts so I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead i
n a few weeks ?
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead in a few
weeks ?
Mike C.
Mike:
Funny you should mention that. Since we were in Chicago last week anyway
we decided to just drive over to Brodhead on the way back to see the
sights. WHERE WERE YOU GUYS?
We did get to see a lot of cool stuff and visit with some nice folks and
even see/photograph a nice black/red Piet in between rain showers.
Unfortunately our trip funds are now gone so I will not be able to attend
the main event this year. Take lots of pictures for me!
Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
Speaking of Brodhead, does anybody know the fuel situation there this
year? It was still down for GrassRoots last September and I have not
heard much since then. Wondering if I need to put a five gallon can in
the truck for my Cub.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:15 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:
> I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead in a
few weeks ?
>
> Mike C.
>
> Mike:
> Funny you should mention that. Since we were in Chicago last week
anyway we decided to just drive over to Brodhead on the way back to see
the sights. WHERE WERE YOU GUYS?
>
> We did get to see a lot of cool stuff and visit with some nice folks
and even see/photograph a nice black/red Piet in between rain showers.
Unfortunately our trip funds are now gone so I will not be able to
attend the main event this year. Take lots of pictures for me!
>
> Stinemetze
> McPherson, KS.
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
Mike,
Some of us will be there disguised as others. I, for one, will look just
like Gary Boothe.
Mike Hardaway
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels
Gentlemen,
(and I use that term with reservations) You seem like a fun group of guys
who like to needle each other and encourage each other's building
efforts so I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead in
a few weeks ?
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: plug wire test ? |
If the caps and leads were changed one side for the other, would that
drop in rpm follow to the other side of the magneto switch? That is,
if left mag on mag check has a 150 rpm drop now, would right mag show
the same drop after changing caps / leads? If so, and the change was
made, and the drop does not follow the change side-to-side, then
would there be a need to test each lead? Seems like this initial step
could save a lot of work, but maybe not.
>
>Mike, the lead tester used for shielded wires should be able to be
>used for unshielded wires also. My best guess is you have a wire
>with a break in the wire itself, or the insulation is breaking down,
>and arcing to ground, somewhere between the mag and the plug. Best
>guess would be the latter choice, and could even be several wires
>arcing to ground. just enough to give you a weak spark.
>
>The testers we had at school, didn't seem to hook up like you would
>think they do. I remember if you hooked them up the way it appeared
>to supposed to be, you would get a serious charge out if the deal
>when you pushed the test button. Aircraft Tool Supply carries a
>tester here: http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/search_result.aspx
>that is used to test high tension spark plug leads. It may be
>available elsewhere for less. The reason I looked at their site, is
>they have a package deal with a timing light, the lead tester, and
>some other stuff, and that is the package the school had.
>
>--------
>Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
>GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
>
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| Subject: | Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering |
Thank You Ryan, On top of being 32 going on a crotchity 98 yrs old (I hate change)
my computer has been messed up for a while. I can't even compose a new email,
I have to respond to other emails with the correct adress.
Shad
--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 12:44 PM
> Here you go:
> http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_6255.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:07 AM,
> shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
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>
> To Don, Skipp, Mike,Frank, and anyone else flying to the
> Ohio Piet Gathering on friday evening to camp out: The
> dummy from the White House will be in Columbus on friday,
> the tfr includes OH71, as the no fly zone from about
> 3pm-5:30 pm. Look it up online to get a picture, or maybe
> one of you computer savy guys could attatch it to a response
> to this e-mail. Of course you could fly in anyway, I think
> the f-16's would have a hell of a time flying at 40mph.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
John,
Back in March, someone on a Hatz website (www.hatzbiplane.com) posted a
message in the forum saying one of the Hatz guys received the following
email from Mike Weeden:
---------------------
Hello Chuck,
EAA Chapter 431 has been planning our 2010 events and formally invite your
Hatz group to Brodhead the weekend before Oshkosh; July 23rd, 24th & 25th
for another Hatz/ Pietenpol Fly-in. We still have details to work out in the
coming weeks but will open our facilities to you. We are planning to have
food Thursday evening through Sunday morning and hope to have 100LL and
ethanol free auto fuel available for a couple hours each day. If not, Monroe
(KEFT) still has the best 100LL price in the area just 11 miles west. We
always enjoy the July Fly-in at Brodhead and appreciate the support of your
group. I'm looking forward to seeing our friends again and more interesting
airplanes.
Mike Weeden
---------------------
We're friends with Brian, the 431 Secretary, and I thought he said the
pumps/tanks/etc were done and signed off by the state now. We'll be talking
to him soon, I'll inquire and let you know for sure.
Ryan
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:28 PM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>wrote:
> Speaking of Brodhead, does anybody know the fuel situation there this year?
> It was still down for GrassRoots last September and I have not heard much
> since then. Wondering if I need to put a five gallon can in the truck for my
> Cub.
>
> -john-
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:15 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:
>
> I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead in a few
> weeks ?
>
> Mike C.
> **
> *Mike:*
> *Funny you should mention that. Since we were in Chicago last week anyway
> we decided to just drive over to Brodhead on the way back to see the
> sights. WHERE WERE YOU GUYS? *
> **
> *We did get to see a lot of cool stuff and visit with some nice folks and
> even see/photograph a nice black/red Piet in between rain showers.
> Unfortunately our trip funds are now gone so I will not be able to attend
> the main event this year. Take lots of pictures for me!*
> **
> *Stinemetze*
> *McPherson, KS.*
> **
> *do not archive*
>
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> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
I will be in attendance.....snappin' pics of Piets.
Brian
SLC-UT
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels
Gentlemen,
(and I use that term with reservations) You seem like a fun group of
guys who like to needle each other and encourage each other's building
efforts so I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at
Brodhead in a few weeks ?
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
Thanks Ryan!
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John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> John,
>
> Back in March, someone on a Hatz website (www.hatzbiplane.com) posted
a message in the forum saying one of the Hatz guys received the
following email from Mike Weeden:
>
> ---------------------
> Hello Chuck,
>
> EAA Chapter 431 has been planning our 2010 events and formally invite
your Hatz group to Brodhead the weekend before Oshkosh; July 23rd, 24th
& 25th for another Hatz/ Pietenpol Fly-in. We still have details to work
out in the coming weeks but will open our facilities to you. We are
planning to have food Thursday evening through Sunday morning and hope
to have 100LL and ethanol free auto fuel available for a couple hours
each day. If not, Monroe (KEFT) still has the best 100LL price in the
area just 11 miles west. We always enjoy the July Fly-in at Brodhead and
appreciate the support of your group. I'm looking forward to seeing our
friends again and more interesting airplanes.
>
> Mike Weeden
> ---------------------
>
> We're friends with Brian, the 431 Secretary, and I thought he said the
pumps/tanks/etc were done and signed off by the state now. We'll be
talking to him soon, I'll inquire and let you know for sure.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:28 PM, John Hofmann
<jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> wrote:
> Speaking of Brodhead, does anybody know the fuel situation there this
year? It was still down for GrassRoots last September and I have not
heard much since then. Wondering if I need to put a five gallon can in
the truck for my Cub.
>
> -john-
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:15 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:
>
>> I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead in a
few weeks ?
>>
>> Mike C.
>>
>> Mike:
>> Funny you should mention that. Since we were in Chicago last week
anyway we decided to just drive over to Brodhead on the way back to see
the sights. WHERE WERE YOU GUYS?
>>
>> We did get to see a lot of cool stuff and visit with some nice folks
and even see/photograph a nice black/red Piet in between rain showers.
Unfortunately our trip funds are now gone so I will not be able to
attend the main event this year. Take lots of pictures for me!
>>
>> Stinemetze
>> McPherson, KS.
>>
>> do not archive
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onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: tfr for friday, ohio piet gathering |
I looked at the tfr again, looks like it is from aprox 11am local to 1:30 local
edt. Check with fss before flying in on friday though. Thank You rag heads
for the added B.S. we have to go through to fly a 70mph airplane. I wonder if
that tfr pertains to flying carpets????????
Shad
P.S. hope I didn't offend anyone, it I did, get over it.
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| Subject: | Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... |
The old saying - "those that have, and those that are going to..." Yes, you know
what I'm talking about (please don't make me utter the blasphemous words aloud),
I successfully accomplished my first with the GN-1 tonight. Unfortunately,
3/4 of the EAA chapter were out flying also - and not the quiet 3/4 either.
There was much discussion/threats afterwords about painting a circle on the
side of the nose. At least they helped cleaning the grass out of the wheelpants...
No damage, didn't hit anything, wing didn't dip or touch ground, tires didn't skid
or slide, only did a nice easy 90 degree attention catching turn, and ended
up in the grass.
So now, all I can say is "been there - done that". NOT to be repeated again...
That much luck only happens once.
What a gorgeous night to fly though!
Lorin
--------
Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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| Subject: | Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... |
Congratulations Lorin,
You have just had a learning opportunity successfully.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Jun 16, 2010, ldmill <lorin.miller@emerson.com> wrote:
The old saying - "those that have, and those that are going to..." Yes, you know
what I'm talking about (please don't make me utter the blasphemous words aloud),
I successfully accomplished my first with the GN-1 tonight. Unfortunately,
3/4 of the EAA chapter were out flying also - and not the quiet 3/4 either.
There was much discussion/threats afterwords about painting a circle on the side
of the nose. At least they helped cleaning the grass out of the wheelpants...
No damage, didn't hit anything, wing didn't dip or touch ground, tires didn't skid
or slide, only did a nice easy 90 degree attention catching turn, and ended
up in the grass.
So now, all I can say is "been there - done that". NOT to be repeated again...
That much luck only happens once.
What a gorgeous night to fly though!
Lorin
--------
Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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| Subject: | Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... |
Since this was "divulged" on the Piet site, I am assuming the Waiex is still
pure and undefiled! See there, you get used to the nice ways of the Waiex,
then you have to be made honest with the GN-1! But don't go to sleep with
the Waiex, either!
Thanks,
Ray Krause
N51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop,
Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 196 hrs.
From: "ldmill" <lorin.miller@emerson.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
>
> The old saying - "those that have, and those that are going to..." Yes,
> you know what I'm talking about (please don't make me utter the
> blasphemous words aloud), I successfully accomplished my first with the
> GN-1 tonight. Unfortunately, 3/4 of the EAA chapter were out flying
> also - and not the quiet 3/4 either. There was much discussion/threats
> afterwords about painting a circle on the side of the nose. At least they
> helped cleaning the grass out of the wheelpants...
>
> No damage, didn't hit anything, wing didn't dip or touch ground, tires
> didn't skid or slide, only did a nice easy 90 degree attention catching
> turn, and ended up in the grass.
>
> So now, all I can say is "been there - done that". NOT to be repeated
> again... That much luck only happens once.
>
> What a gorgeous night to fly though!
> Lorin
>
> --------
> Lorin Miller
> Waiex N81YX
> GN-1 N30PP
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301500#301500
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels |
Hi Mike and all,
My wife Arlene got her first ride in a Piet at our West Coast Piet gathering in
Frazier Lake. Charlie Miller our host gave Arlene and Ryan Boothe, Gary's son
their first rides in a Piet Sunday.
I got my first ride with Dick Navratil last year at Brodhead. Hopefully we will
be able to be there again. It was great seeing and hearing your smoky circle
as you finally got through the weather last year and arrived at Brodhead Mike.
Cheers,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Jun 16, 2010, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
wrote:
Gentlemen,
(and I use that term with reservations) You seem like a fun group of guys who
like to needle each other and encourage each other’s building
efforts so I was wondering if we might get to meet any of you at Brodhead in a
few weeks ?
Mike C.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... |
Hi Ray! Nice to hear from you. The Waiex is pristine still. Fortunately it hasn't
had an incident yet, otherwise my shop would be a horrendous mess...
Just got panel back from powder coating and put it together. Bundling wiring right
now - then cockpit is complete and off to cowling/windshield and canopy.
--------
Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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| Subject: | Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight... |
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:52 PM, "ldmill" <lorin.miller@emerson.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Hi Ray! Nice to hear from you. The Waiex is pristine still.
> Fortunately it hasn't had an incident yet, otherwise my shop would
> be a horrendous mess...
>
> Just got panel back from powder coating and put it together.
> Bundling wiring right now - then cockpit is complete and off to
> cowling/windshield and canopy.
>
> --------
> Lorin Miller
> Waiex N81YX
> GN-1 N30PP
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301510#301510
>
>
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| Subject: | Just made a website |
Now it's a pretty crude website, and I'm going to update it as I can,
but for those of you who would like to check it out, it's www.vansaviation.com
nothing special but I will update as I can!
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| Subject: | Re: Just made a website |
An excellent web site. Congrats on getting things started on the rebuild.
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HOMEBUILDER
Will WORK for Spruce
Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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