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1. 03:54 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Ben Charvet)
2. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Dan Yocum)
3. 05:49 AM - Photos of First Flight NX929DH (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 05:50 AM - Newby coming to Brodhead (Dale Mccleskey)
5. 05:53 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Frank Metcalfe)
6. 05:53 AM - Piet Aerobatics (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 05:57 AM - Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH (Jim Markle)
8. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Split Axle Gear (TOM STINEMETZE)
9. 06:29 AM - Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (K5YAC)
10. 06:52 AM - Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH (Gary Boothe)
11. 07:10 AM - Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH (Jeff Boatright)
12. 07:37 AM - Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH (K5YAC)
13. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
14. 07:39 AM - Re: Piet Aerobatics (Doug Dever)
15. 07:42 AM - Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
16. 07:46 AM - Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (K5YAC)
17. 08:05 AM - Re: Pietenpol in DFW area (kevinpurtee)
18. 09:23 AM - Re: hole sizes (Bill Church)
19. 11:49 AM - my new engine arrived! (Douwe Blumberg)
20. 12:04 PM - Re: my new engine arrived! (Ryan Mueller)
21. 01:11 PM - Re: Piet Aerobatics (Darrel Jones)
22. 01:22 PM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Ben Charvet)
23. 02:32 PM - pitot tube not shown (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
24. 02:33 PM - great news about Dan's first flight (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
25. 03:51 PM - Re: Pietenpol in DFW area (helspersew@aol.com)
26. 04:01 PM - Re: Dan Helspers Milestone (shad bell)
27. 04:02 PM - Re: Re: First flight! 1st dead stick landing...... ever (shad bell)
28. 04:35 PM - Re: Pietenpol in DFW area (Gary Boothe)
29. 04:36 PM - Model A experiance (shad bell)
30. 04:56 PM - Re: pitot tube not shown (j_dunavin)
31. 05:05 PM - Re: hole sizes (skellytown flyer)
32. 05:07 PM - Re: Dan Helspers Milestone (Richard Schreiber)
33. 05:26 PM - Pro-Seal or Chem Seal (Gary Boothe)
34. 06:00 PM - Panel Layout (Jack)
35. 06:43 PM - Re: Panel Layout (Jeff Boatright)
36. 07:42 PM - Denver area parts (skellytown flyer)
37. 08:38 PM - Re: Panel Layout (ldmill)
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| Subject: | Re: homemade pitot tube? |
I just left my static ports open and that seems to work for my
application.. Made my own pitot from copper tubing.
Ben
On 6/28/2010 12:03 AM, j_dunavin wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
>
> very cool! OK I was all worried about a $200 pitot tube.
> As for the static... since it is open cockpit, couldn't you just leave all the
static ports open? Or all run to one point source in the cockpit?
> One less line to run?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: homemade pitot tube? |
Again, I refer back to Mike's installation. He and Jeff B. plugged
their static ports with plastic plugs drilled with small holes (1/16"?).
Speaking of the static ports on the back of instruments, does anyone
know off the top of their head what size and thread gauge these
typically are?
Thanks,
Dan
On 06/27/2010 11:03 PM, j_dunavin wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
>
> very cool! OK I was all worried about a $200 pitot tube.
> As for the static... since it is open cockpit, couldn't you just leave all the
static ports open? Or all run to one point source in the cockpit?
> One less line to run?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Photos of First Flight NX929DH |
Sorry this took so long to post, but I think after viewing you will agree
the wait was worth it. After you get to this Photobucket sight, click on
"slideshow" for best viewing. I wish this was a video, but sometimes the
imagination fills in even better than the movement and sound ever could.
Enjoy!!
http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/dhelsper/First%20Flight%20NX929DH/
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Newby coming to Brodhead |
I'm planning my first trip to Brodhead. Will be flying N7035N, my Piet
completed in 2004 (so why has it taken me this long to fly to
Brodhead.... I plead insanity). Will be flying from Nashville, TN
(M-54 actually) and am wondering if any others would want to fly
together either from this area or along the route. Also just open to
what wisdom I need to know about making the trip and staying at
Brodhead. Motel or camp? What do I need to bring?
And does anybody have any experience with the HP or Garmin PDA's with
aviation gps (Ebay has a bunch of them)?
I'm sure pleased to find this discussion group.
--
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LifeWay Christian Resources
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Nashville, Tennessee 37234
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| Subject: | Re: homemade pitot tube? |
1/8 MPT=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Dan Yocum <y
ocum@fnal.gov>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, June 28, 201
0 7:51:50 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube?=0A=0A-
I refer back to Mike's installation.- He and Jeff B. plugged =0Atheir st
atic ports with plastic plugs drilled with small holes (1/16"?).=0A=0ASpeak
ing of the static ports on the back of instruments, does anyone =0Aknow off
the top of their head what size and thread gauge these =0Atypically are?
=0A=0AThanks,=0ADan=0A=0A=0AOn 06/27/2010 11:03 PM, j_dunavin wrote:=0A> --
>- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
=0A>=0A> very cool! OK I was all worried about a $200 pitot tube.=0A> As fo
r the static... since it is open cockpit, couldn't you just leave all the s
tatic ports open? Or all run to one point source in the cockpit?=0A> One le
ss line to run?=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A> ht
tp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A-- =0ADan Yocum=0AFermilab- 630.840.6509=0A
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov=0A"I fly because it releases my m
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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I'll re-post something that I posted here in Oct. of 2006 when there
was a discussion of wing strut failures. Someone said that there
had never been an inflight failure of an Air Camper wing and the
fact was disputed. Turns out that the case in question did NOT
involve a wing spar failure... it was the wing strut. Here's the
post, and the reference to aerobatics:
>I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure,
>to go with the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts
>and all that. Chet Peek's book, discussing Bennie Skaarberg's
>Model A powered Aircamper, gives Pietenpol's comments following
>the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and other witnesses later revealed
>the cause of the crash was actually the failure of the wing struts.
>Skaarberg had tried to do a loop, fallen out of the maneuver at
>the top, thus putting a reverse load on the struts, and the wing
>came off."
>
>Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed
>nor are there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap
>of wreckage, but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was
>based on this incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem
>to warrant some engineering analysis not just in tension, but
>buckling failure modes in compression when compared with the equivalent
>4130 streamlined tubing struts.
Other discussions in the past seemed to indicate that the standard
Air Camper setup is only good for ONE negative G, and various pilots
(Mike Cuy comes to mind) reported having experienced considerably
more than one negative G in flying their aircampers. This was in
relation to the requirement for jury struts on the wing lift struts.
Jury struts should be considered to be mandatory... aerobatics or
not.
Mikee also pointed out that Mr. Pietenpol's original wing strut
material had internal stiffeners that today's streamline tubing
does not have, so it's even questionable as to what the actual
capability of today's struts is compared to the internally
stiffened material of those days, with or without jury struts.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH |
WOW! Very nice. I think #45 is my favorite....
Movies or not...this is great!
Thanks for sharing Dan!
jm
-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Jun 28, 2010 8:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Photos of First Flight NX929DH
Sorry this took so long to post, but I think after viewing you will agree the wait
was worth it. After you get to this Photobucket sight, click on "slideshow"
for best viewing. I wish this was a video, but sometimes the imagination fills
in even better than the movement and sound ever could. Enjoy!!
http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/dhelsper/First%20Flight%20NX929DH/
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Jack:
My e-mail software allows me to send a message either with or without
the e-card and Piet logo. I normally send the message to matronics
without the card per Matt's recommendations. However, I "oops'ed" on
that one and hit the wrong button. I'll try not to do it again.
Stinemetze
N328X
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>>> "Jack" <jack@textors.com> 6/25/2010 7:08 PM >>>
Tom,
I like the vcard attachment. Do others agree? Wonder if its ok with
Matt.
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
Welcome Dale! And congratulations on your airplane!
I'm pretty new to Brodhead myself (second trip this year), so I'll let one of the
veterans fill you in on how to best experience the magic. I believe that there
are several new airplanes planning to attend this year, which ought to be
great. We (my family and I) were fortunate to make it last year and had a really
great time.
I will say this... while most of the group are very hospitable and civilized, there
are a few unruly, sneaky and salty sorts among us. I won't name any names,
but one real shady character rhymes with "john recine"... if you get any correspondence
from someone with a name that sounds like "john recine"... hide your
beer, your food and your valuables. [Wink]
We sure do look forward to meeting you, and getting an eyeball on your airplane!
--------
Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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| Subject: | Photos of First Flight NX929DH |
I agree, Jim! But I'm pretty sure I can see him grinning in #48...
Thanks, Dan!
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Photos of First Flight NX929DH
WOW! Very nice. I think #45 is my favorite....
Movies or not...this is great!
Thanks for sharing Dan!
jm
-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Jun 28, 2010 8:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Photos of First Flight NX929DH
Sorry this took so long to post, but I think after viewing you will agree the wait
was worth it. After you get to this Photobucket sight, click on "slideshow"
for best viewing. I wish this was a video, but sometimes the imagination fills
in even better than the movement and sound ever could. Enjoy!!
http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/dhelsper/First%20Flight%20NX929DH/
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH |
WOW! Great stuff! Congratulations. And was that a manly tear being
wiped from your eye in the last two slides? Of course not! That was
bug that got in under the goggles, right? ;-)
Congratulations again. What a thrill just sitting here looking at the photos!
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH |
Wow! Those are really great pics... and your field is beautiful. Very inspiring
Dan. Good luck with your testing phase and we look forward to seeing you at
Brodhead.
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Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
I am watching and reading Mark! can I have the women?
Do not archive
John
Oops I mean Safe in the morning, dangerous in the evening!
In a message dated 6/28/2010 9:30:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hangar10@cox.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Welcome Dale! And congratulations on your airplane!
I'm pretty new to Brodhead myself (second trip this year), so I'll let one
of the veterans fill you in on how to best experience the magic. I
believe that there are several new airplanes planning to attend this year, which
ought to be great. We (my family and I) were fortunate to make it last
year and had a really great time.
I will say this... while most of the group are very hospitable and
civilized, there are a few unruly, sneaky and salty sorts among us. I won't name
any names, but one real shady character rhymes with "john recine"... if you
get any correspondence from someone with a name that sounds like "john
recine"... hide your beer, your food and your valuables. [Wink]
We sure do look forward to meeting you, and getting an eyeball on your
airplane!
--------
Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302811#302811
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Keerp in mind that even certified aircraft are only stressed for 1.5 negati
ve. I personally have experienced moderate to severe turbulence and swore
that we were reaching the limits of the airframe. (I wasn't flying=2C nor d
id I fly with this person again) I did trust the published manouvering spee
d though. Anyway=2C My point is that 1.5 negative Gs is a lot. Having la
ter experienced it. I know now that I have never even experienced 1 negati
ve in normal flight.
Just my .02 and it my not even be worth that.
One final thought. Aluminum struts are used on many exp. aircraft in the s
ame weight range as the Piet.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
> From: taildrags@hotmail.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Aerobatics
> Date: Mon=2C 28 Jun 2010 07:50:49 -0500
>
>
>
>
> I'll re-post something that I posted here in Oct. of 2006 when there
> was a discussion of wing strut failures. Someone said that there
> had never been an inflight failure of an Air Camper wing and the
> fact was disputed. Turns out that the case in question did NOT
> involve a wing spar failure... it was the wing strut. Here's the
> post=2C and the reference to aerobatics:
>
> >I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure=2C
> >to go with the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts
> >and all that. Chet Peek's book=2C discussing Bennie Skaarberg's
> >Model A powered Aircamper=2C gives Pietenpol's comments following
> >the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and other witnesses later revealed
> >the cause of the crash was actually the failure of the wing struts.
> >Skaarberg had tried to do a loop=2C fallen out of the maneuver at
> >the top=2C thus putting a reverse load on the struts=2C and the wing
> >came off."
> >
> >Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed
> >nor are there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap
> >of wreckage=2C but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was
> >based on this incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem
> >to warrant some engineering analysis not just in tension=2C but
> >buckling failure modes in compression when compared with the equivalent
> >4130 streamlined tubing struts.
>
> Other discussions in the past seemed to indicate that the standard
> Air Camper setup is only good for ONE negative G=2C and various pilots
> (Mike Cuy comes to mind) reported having experienced considerably
> more than one negative G in flying their aircampers. This was in
> relation to the requirement for jury struts on the wing lift struts.
> Jury struts should be considered to be mandatory... aerobatics or
> not.
>
> Mikee also pointed out that Mr. Pietenpol's original wing strut
> material had internal stiffeners that today's streamline tubing
> does not have=2C so it's even questionable as to what the actual
> capability of today's struts is compared to the internally
> stiffened material of those days=2C with or without jury struts.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio=2C TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of First Flight NX929DH |
Dan I am disappointed, where its the "hello good people" shot?
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John
Dan those are great, easy to detect the dead stick thing, thanks for
sharing them with us. certainly a day that will live for ever!
Btw who's that playing gotch yur nose? I typically like to play that with
pliers, it makes for a more interesting response by the former nose owner!
In a message dated 6/28/2010 8:50:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
helspersew@aol.com writes:
Sorry this took so long to post, but I think after viewing you will agree
the wait was worth it. After you get to this Photobucket sight, click on
"slideshow" for best viewing. I wish this was a video, but sometimes the
imagination fills in even better than the movement and sound ever could. Enjoy!!
_http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/dhelsper/First%20Flight%20NX929DH/_
(http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/dhelsper/First%20Flight%20NX929DH/)
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
Amsafetyc wrote:
> I am watching and reading Mark! can I have the women?
See what I mean... I refrained from mentioning "hiding the women" because Dale
is new here, and obviously a good Christian. I didn't want to scare him off before
we got to hear more about his airplane. On the other hand... John is quite
the heathen... ha ha!
Yes John, I am aware that you are ALWAYS watching and reading. You walked right
into my trap. [Laughing]
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Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol in DFW area |
Hi Juan - I'm in Georgetown, north of Austin, about 3-4 hours south of DFW. You're
welcome to visit. Call me at 512-422-6371. If you're not a heavyweight
I'll take you flying in NX899KP.
Kevin Purtee
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Well, that's interesting.
If I had a need for a small brush, I would probably use a paint brush for plastic
models. But Jim recommends an eyeliner brush.
I guess you just use whatever you have on hand.
I'm just sayin'...
BC
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| Subject: | my new engine arrived! |
Progress on the rebuild is coming along well. Big milestone today, just
uncrated my recently purchased 0-200!! Has 250hrs on it and is firewall
forward from a 150. Looks pretty good. The compression supposedly is good,
we'll double ck here, but so far so good. Now have to build the engine
mount.
Just heard from Don that the Woodwork is all done on the wings and he's
getting ready to re-cover soon.
So things are moving forward which is very promising. Maybe next spring?
She's going to have a very different look from the old "Ford" look. I think
I'm going after the 1930's British look since I won't have that beautiful
Ford up front.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: my new engine arrived! |
Congrats Douwe. Always fun when that big crate shows up at your door. :P
If you're going to go for the British look you'll have to find yourself a
set of Roll-Royce O-200 valve covers! :)
Keep up the good work. Have a good day,
Ryan
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net
> wrote:
> douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Progress on the rebuild is coming along well. Big milestone today, just
> uncrated my recently purchased 0-200!! Has 250hrs on it and is firewall
> forward from a 150. Looks pretty good. The compression supposedly is
> good,
> we'll double ck here, but so far so good. Now have to build the engine
> mount.
>
> Just heard from Don that the Woodwork is all done on the wings and he's
> getting ready to re-cover soon.
>
> So things are moving forward which is very promising. Maybe next spring?
>
> She's going to have a very different look from the old "Ford" look. I
> think
> I'm going after the 1930's British look since I won't have that beautiful
> Ford up front.
>
> Douwe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Aerobatics |
We had a Pietenpol with strut failure here at Schellville in Sonoma, CA
back in the 70's. In that case the builder didn't install jury struts
and had the struts buckle in a strong updraft. The result was a double
fatal if I recall.
Darrel Jones
Pfeifer Sport N154JP
PS. Joe Pfeifer's kid Butch used to do mild acro in the Sport, but it is
steel tube fuse with enough differences that I tell people it is a
Pietenpol variant. I still have a couple fuselage side glued up with
Aerolite if anyone is interested.
On 6/28/2010 5:50 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> I'll re-post something that I posted here in Oct. of 2006 when there
> was a discussion of wing strut failures. Someone said that there
> had never been an inflight failure of an Air Camper wing and the
> fact was disputed. Turns out that the case in question did NOT
> involve a wing spar failure... it was the wing strut. Here's the
> post, and the reference to aerobatics:
>
>
>> I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure,
>> to go with the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts
>> and all that. Chet Peek's book, discussing Bennie Skaarberg's
>> Model A powered Aircamper, gives Pietenpol's comments following
>> the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and other witnesses later revealed
>> the cause of the crash was actually the failure of the wing struts.
>> Skaarberg had tried to do a loop, fallen out of the maneuver at
>> the top, thus putting a reverse load on the struts, and the wing
>> came off."
>>
>> Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed
>> nor are there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap
>> of wreckage, but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was
>> based on this incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem
>> to warrant some engineering analysis not just in tension, but
>> buckling failure modes in compression when compared with the equivalent
>> 4130 streamlined tubing struts.
>>
> Other discussions in the past seemed to indicate that the standard
> Air Camper setup is only good for ONE negative G, and various pilots
> (Mike Cuy comes to mind) reported having experienced considerably
> more than one negative G in flying their aircampers. This was in
> relation to the requirement for jury struts on the wing lift struts.
> Jury struts should be considered to be mandatory... aerobatics or
> not.
>
> Mikee also pointed out that Mr. Pietenpol's original wing strut
> material had internal stiffeners that today's streamline tubing
> does not have, so it's even questionable as to what the actual
> capability of today's struts is compared to the internally
> stiffened material of those days, with or without jury struts.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: homemade pitot tube? |
I believe thats 1/8 NPT (national pipe thread) You can buy barb or
compression fittings to fit at Ace Hardware Aircraft Supply
Ben
On 6/28/2010 8:51 AM, Frank Metcalfe wrote:
> 1/8 MPT
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 7:51:50 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube?
>
> <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>>
>
> Again, I refer back to Mike's installation. He and Jeff B. plugged
> their static ports with plastic plugs drilled with small holes (1/16"?).
>
> Speaking of the static ports on the back of instruments, does anyone
> know off the top of their head what size and thread gauge these
> typically are?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
> On 06/27/2010 11:03 PM, j_dunavin wrote:
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by:
> "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com <mailto:j_dunavin@hotmail.com>>
> >
> > very cool! OK I was all worried about a $200 pitot tube.
> > As for the static... since it is open cockpit, couldn't you just
> leave all the static ports open? Or all run to one point source in the
> cockpit?
> > One less line to run?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from = - The ;
> -Matt Dralle, Lis
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | pitot tube not shown |
But thought you might like this photo anyway ! Jack Phillips from my pla
ne somewhere between Juneau, WI and Ripon, WI
last July.
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| Subject: | great news about Dan's first flight |
Wow-already doing Bob Hoover imitations with that deadstick landing !
NICE job and what GREAT photos you have of your early morning 1st flight Da
n. What an accomplishment.
We all hope you can get your oil leak and carb heat issues resolved so we c
an celebrate your first Brodhead with
your new Pietenpol. Three weeks and a few days.....you can do it !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol in DFW area |
Juan,
Do you know Santiago Morete, from Santa Rosa, Argentina? He is an exquisit
e Piet builder, and a frequent contributing member of this forum. In addit
ion, he attended Brodhead '08 and was loved by all. Contact me off-list an
d I will give you his email.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: jpkarrera <jpkarrera@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 4:11 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol in DFW area
Hello all,
I'm very interested in building this airplane. I'm from Argentina, and I'l
l be
n DFW area for two months due a training.
contacted Tim, a good member of this forum, and he told me many things ab
out
his plane and also he answered me many questions.
would like to know if somebody has a Pietenpol in DFW area, just to see
one of
hese airplanes and learn more about it.
hanks in advance,
uan Carrera.
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Helspers Milestone |
I missed Bill Knight at the waco fly-in, because they banned us lowly outsi
ders (non waco club members) from the fly-in.- I always liked seeing them
over at wynkoop, Bill, Tom Brown (the Brown Aero Aircamper with corvair).
- Bill was kind enough to trade some rides in his waco, for some photos o
f his UPF7 next to Dad's 1932 1 ton ford truck.-
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Shad=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: First flight! 1st dead stick landing...... ever |
Congratulations on your 1st flight!!!- I remember seeing your airplane 2
years ago when I stopped in on my way to brodhead, It looks even better now
.- Have fun doing the testing.
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Shad=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Pietenpol in DFW area |
Juan,
I'll be in the Dallas area for 3 nights, July 19-20, on business. Can't fit
my Piet in my suitcase, but would love to buy you dinner, if you have time!
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol in DFW area
Juan,
Do you know Santiago Morete, from Santa Rosa, Argentina? He is an exquisite
Piet builder, and a frequent contributing member of this forum. In addition,
he attended Brodhead '08 and was loved by all. Contact me off-list and I
will give you his email.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: jpkarrera <jpkarrera@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 4:11 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol in DFW area
Hello all,
I'm very interested in building this airplane. I'm from Argentina, and I'll
be
in DFW area for two months due a training.
I contacted Tim, a good member of this forum, and he told me many things
about
this plane and also he answered me many questions.
I would like to know if somebody has a Pietenpol in DFW area, just to see
one of
these airplanes and learn more about it.
Thanks in advance,
Juan Carrera.
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| Subject: | Model A experiance |
Dan, I am far from a model a expert, But I have had some exposure to drivin
g an old 1932 1/2 ford model a 1 ton truck.- It does have a v-8 which is
not the same engine.- If the engine gets hot it can vapor lock easily at
idle, just had it happen to me on friday night while dad was flying- (of
corse with your gravity feed that should not be an issue).- If you engine
is getting hot, and tight , that prop has much less inertia than a model a
flywheel does, keep you approaches high, and if possible do some longer fl
ights to help her break in.- I don't claim to know as much as the model a
fling piet guys, but listen to the experianced old timers, most of them kn
ow their stuff.- Be patient, and if you need more ground/break in time ta
ke it, and don't get pressured in to "having" to make Brodhead, it will be
there next year if you don't get there this year.- I wish you the best of
luck, congradulations, and congrats on that 1st dead stick! (butt
tightening isn't it?).
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Shad=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: pitot tube not shown |
mmmm piet's in formation!
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Pipe cleaners work well for me. I actually wet soaked mine with epoxy varnish in
the holes and tapped the bolts through and snugged the nuts up. for better or
worse-getting them out may a problem for someone someday but probably not me
I hope.
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Helspers Milestone |
Shad:
I assume Bill was flying back to Brodhead from Wynkoop when he stopped at VPZ,
Porter Co. Tom Brown was also flying back in his cabin Waco, but Bill said he
didn't want to tackle the crosswind at VPZ on a paved runway, so he continued
on. I was in my hanger working on my Tri Pacer when I heard the radial. I looked
up in time to see Tom passing overhead. I went over to a friends hanger to
see if he saw Tom and thats when I saw Bill Knight already parked in front of
my friends hanger.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
Sent: 6/28/2010 6:03:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dan Helspers Milestone
I missed Bill Knight at the waco fly-in, because they banned us lowly outsiders
(non waco club members) from the fly-in. I always liked seeing them over at
wynkoop, Bill, Tom Brown (the Brown Aero Aircamper with corvair). Bill was kind
enough to trade some rides in his waco, for some photos of his UPF7 next to
Dad's 1932 1 ton ford truck.
Shad
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| Subject: | Pro-Seal or Chem Seal |
Does anyone know if paint will bond to CS 3204?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
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I would appreciate any thoughts, good bad or ugly regarding my panel layout.
It can be seen here http://textors.com/IMG_4572_640x427.jpg . Transponder
will be ala JP in the center section. Intercom integrated in the
transceiver, right side. The rectangles at the bottom are (L to R)
Switches, starter pull, circuit breakers. I plan to move the starter pull
to the far left or underneath the panel to make it easier to route the cable
to the starter. Carb-heat, throttle and compass are not shown.
Suggest-away!
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
Jack,
Since you asked...
I like my ASI top center, where your turn and bank is now. I don't
think a full-blown turn and bank is needed in a Piet - I mounted a
small slip indicator on top of the instrument panel, on the cowling.
I got mine from Wicks for $26, part#B1114-2 but I don't see it at
their website now. This puts the slip indicator and ASI right in
front of my face, centered.
I'd put the tach where the ASI is now, move the oil temp and pressure
right up next to the tach - they're more important than the voltmeter
and this clusters your engine instruments.
Clock sure is handy, but does it need to be 3-1/8'? I think a VSI is
more interesting; wish I had one.
I like the com up high where you can see it. Sometimes I struggle to
see if I've tuned the correct frequency because mine is too low and
to the side.
Well, like the body's evacuation chute surrounded by an annular
muscle, everyone has an opinion!
Jeff
>I would appreciate any thoughts, good bad or ugly regarding my panel layout.
>It can be seen here http://textors.com/IMG_4572_640x427.jpg . Transponder
>will be ala JP in the center section. Intercom integrated in the
>transceiver, right side. The rectangles at the bottom are (L to R)
>Switches, starter pull, circuit breakers. I plan to move the starter pull
>to the far left or underneath the panel to make it easier to route the cable
>to the starter. Carb-heat, throttle and compass are not shown.
>Suggest-away!
>Thanks,
>Jack
>DSM
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Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
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| Subject: | Denver area parts |
do any of you know whether there may be any aircraft salvages in the Lamar to Denver
area? I have to take a load of equipment up from Texas across southeast
Colorado area to Aurora. if I thought there was anyone along the route that might
have some old 6" wheels and brakes that might work on my gear legs for sale
worth the money I'd sure be interested in checking them out.I'll likely stay
overnight somewhere around Lamar anyway. it's a long trip up and back. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
HI Jack,
I just wired in my XCOM into the Waiex. After running about 30 wires - I really
wish I would have gone with a handheld like my GN has! It literally took me
a month to get all the push to talk switches/headset/mic/power/etc wires built
and in place. I use my wristwatch for time. The one thing I wish I did have
in my GN is a Vertical Speed indicator. I'd like to see just how well my prop
is performing with the A-75. The two instruments I look at most while flying
N30PP is the tach and ASI. Next is the CHT (4 channel) My slip indicator is right
at top of panel and I've been using it to fine-tune the rudder trim tab.
Pics of my Piet panel are on Westcoastpiet.com. It's very simple and I was comfortable
with it after the first flight.
Lorin
Colo, Iowa
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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