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1. 05:07 AM - Re: Model A experiance (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 05:38 AM - my new engine arrived! (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 05:40 AM - Panel Layout (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Panel Layout (Jack Phillips)
5. 08:44 AM - Re: Panel Layout (Jim Markle)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: Panel Layout (coxwelljon)
7. 08:49 AM - Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (Dale McCleskey)
8. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (Dan Yocum)
9. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (John Hofmann)
10. 09:55 AM - Re: Denver area parts (Rick Holland)
11. 10:14 AM - Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (K5YAC)
12. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead (John Recine)
13. 03:52 PM - Re: Panel Layout (H RULE)
14. 05:16 PM - One Down! (echobravo4)
15. 05:38 PM - Re: One Down! (helspersew@aol.com)
16. 05:53 PM - Re: First flight! 1st dead stick landing...... ever (Allan Macklem)
17. 06:08 PM - Re: Panel Layout (Rick Holland)
18. 06:09 PM - Big Piet meets little Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
19. 06:22 PM - Re: One Down! (Rick Holland)
20. 06:23 PM - Re: One Down! (Gary Boothe)
21. 06:23 PM - FW: Panel Layout (Gary Boothe)
22. 06:32 PM - Re: One Down! (Kringle)
23. 06:36 PM - Re: Denver area parts (skellytown flyer)
24. 06:39 PM - Re: Panel Layout (H RULE)
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| Subject: | Re: Model A experiance |
Hi Shad,
Thank you for the advice. I am open to listening to ANY ideas about this.
As a matter of fact, I heard through another person that Bill Knight thou
ght that my problem was as you surmise, a tight new engine. At this point
I am guessing that it was either ice, or tight bearings. But the thing is
I could not duplicate any probs on the ground. But then again I never ran
it that hard or long on the ground. So I am going to try to improve my ca
rb heat system, and as the time passes the engine will get broken in. I am
almost sure I will make Brodhead safely, but I will keep my head and not
go if I feel unsafe. It is not worth it. See you soon I hope.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 6:15 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A experiance
Dan, I am far from a model a expert, But I have had some exposure to drivi
ng an old 1932 1/2 ford model a 1 ton truck. It does have a v-8 which is
not the same engine. If the engine gets hot it can vapor lock easily at
idle, just had it happen to me on friday night while dad was flying (of
corse with your gravity feed that should not be an issue). If you engine
is getting hot, and tight , that prop has much less inertia than a model
a flywheel does, keep you approaches high, and if possible do some longer
flights to help her break in. I don't claim to know as much as the model
a fling piet guys, but listen to the experianced old timers, most of them
know their stuff. Be patient, and if you need more ground/break in time
take it, and don't get pressured in to "having" to make Brodhead, it will
be there next year if you don't get there this year. I wish you the best
of luck, congradulations, and congrats on that 1st dead stick! (butt tigh
tening isn't it?).
Shad
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| Subject: | my new engine arrived! |
Ryan wrote-
>If you're going to go for the British look you'll
>have to find yourself a set of Roll-Royce O-200
>valve covers! :)
When I began assembling parts for the A75 that is now
on my airplane, I went looking for a matched set of
valve covers since it had a mixed set of newer and
older ones. I passed up a set of Rolls-Royce ones
because that wasn't what I was looking for. I found
mine on eBay... keep looking and be patient.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Jack: panel layout is going to be a very personal thing
so I won't offer any suggestions different from what you've
already seen here. Just two comments: (1), I have a VSI in
41CC and never look at it... seat of the pants seems to
work just as well; (2) consider that the aileron cables
cross inside the top cowl where the backs of the instruments
are, and make sure you won't have interference between the
instruments and the cables. Deeper instruments, or those
with hoses or cables coming out the back (like the tach)
need to be checked in particular.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Jack,
I disagree with Jeff about the T&B. I like having one (and it has saved my
butt once when I got a little closer to clouds than I intended and had what
seemed like about 2 minutes of actual IFR while I executed a 180 to get back
in the clear). If you have a T&B, I think the center is the best place for
it
I agree with him that that a clock is not worth the panel space (with a
Pietenpol, if you need to tell time you should use a calendar). I have a
VSI where your clock is and find it very useful to see how slowly you are
climbing.
Two other comments. Where is your compass? And if you put your GPS that
low, you are going to be flying "head down" a lot during cross countrys. My
GPS is mounted on the upper right longeron at about the same height as yours
and I wish it were higher. Remember that a Piet's instrument panel if VERY
close to the pilot and looking at any instrument for very long requires
significant downward vision angle.
Otherwise it looks good. Looking forward to seeing it at Brodhead someday.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout
Jack,
Since you asked...
I like my ASI top center, where your turn and bank is now. I don't
think a full-blown turn and bank is needed in a Piet - I mounted a
small slip indicator on top of the instrument panel, on the cowling.
I got mine from Wicks for $26, part#B1114-2 but I don't see it at
their website now. This puts the slip indicator and ASI right in
front of my face, centered.
I'd put the tach where the ASI is now, move the oil temp and pressure
right up next to the tach - they're more important than the voltmeter
and this clusters your engine instruments.
Clock sure is handy, but does it need to be 3-1/8'? I think a VSI is
more interesting; wish I had one.
I like the com up high where you can see it. Sometimes I struggle to
see if I've tuned the correct frequency because mine is too low and
to the side.
Well, like the body's evacuation chute surrounded by an annular
muscle, everyone has an opinion!
Jeff
>I would appreciate any thoughts, good bad or ugly regarding my panel
layout.
>It can be seen here http://textors.com/IMG_4572_640x427.jpg . Transponder
>will be ala JP in the center section. Intercom integrated in the
>transceiver, right side. The rectangles at the bottom are (L to R)
>Switches, starter pull, circuit breakers. I plan to move the starter pull
>to the far left or underneath the panel to make it easier to route the
cable
>to the starter. Carb-heat, throttle and compass are not shown.
>Suggest-away!
>Thanks,
>Jack
>DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
I think I would put all the engine stuff together. Move the oil pressure and oil
temp together. My opinion on such matters has NO experience behind it...just
makes more sense to me to look in an area and see all of whatever relates to
one type of "issue".....
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
>Sent: Jun 28, 2010 8:57 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout
>
>I would appreciate any thoughts, good bad or ugly regarding my panel layout.
>It can be seen here http://textors.com/IMG_4572_640x427.jpg . Transponder
>will be ala JP in the center section. Intercom integrated in the
>transceiver, right side. The rectangles at the bottom are (L to R)
>Switches, starter pull, circuit breakers. I plan to move the starter pull
>to the far left or underneath the panel to make it easier to route the cable
>to the starter. Carb-heat, throttle and compass are not shown.
>Suggest-away!
>Thanks,
>Jack
>DSM
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
Jack,
The comments provided are all good ones especially from those that have flying
airplanes. As said before the panel layout is a personal preference.
I would add this. Go to the aviation magazines and cut out or copy pictures of
actual instrument faces and place them in the locations you have selected.
Then get some seat time, get in and make whirring noises, lean left and right,
look out over the nose and make a landing or two while continuing a scan of the
instruments. Try to imagine some unusual attitudes, a snap roll or loop and
figure out what information you are going to need to make a safe recovery. Put
the plane in 3 point and level flight attitude and see what difference it makes.
Lastly be sure to log your time and count your landings.
Jon Coxwell
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GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
OK John and Mark, I can tell I've done got myself mixed up with a fun bunch.
John, my wife, Cheryl just isn't an aviation enthusiast, so won't even be coming,
and yet she insists on restricting my dating life, so yes. As far as I'm concerned,
you can have the women though I think they may have something to say
about it all. As for Brodhead, I can't wait, but I've got to refresh my cross
country navigarion skills.
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
Dale,
If you can get your wife a ride in a Piet, or some other open cockpit
airplane, she'll start to come around. Mine is slowly, but surely,
becoming more embracing of my mistress at the airport. It helps that
the kids are interested in the plane and flying, too.
She hardly cringed at all, and didn't even look for a large, heavy
object to throw at me, when she heard what it's going to cost to get the
#4 cylinder repaired on my Piet.
Cheers,
Dan
On 06/29/2010 10:48 AM, Dale McCleskey wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dale McCleskey"<dale.mccleskey@lifeway.com>
>
> OK John and Mark, I can tell I've done got myself mixed up with a fun bunch.
> John, my wife, Cheryl just isn't an aviation enthusiast, so won't even be coming,
and yet she insists on restricting my dating life, so yes. As far as I'm
concerned, you can have the women though I think they may have something to say
about it all. As for Brodhead, I can't wait, but I've got to refresh my cross
country navigarion skills.
>
> --------
> Dale McCleskey
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302993#302993
>
>
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
Wimmin!? Next thing you know they will want to vote.
"I knew she wasn't worth top billing."
do not archive and please have a sense of humor
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> Dale,
>
> If you can get your wife a ride in a Piet, or some other open cockpit
airplane, she'll start to come around. Mine is slowly, but surely,
becoming more embracing of my mistress at the airport. It helps that
the kids are interested in the plane and flying, too.
>
> She hardly cringed at all, and didn't even look for a large, heavy
object to throw at me, when she heard what it's going to cost to get the
#4 cylinder repaired on my Piet.
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
>
>
> On 06/29/2010 10:48 AM, Dale McCleskey wrote:
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dale
McCleskey"<dale.mccleskey@lifeway.com>
>>
>> OK John and Mark, I can tell I've done got myself mixed up with a fun
bunch.
>> John, my wife, Cheryl just isn't an aviation enthusiast, so won't
even be coming, and yet she insists on restricting my dating life, so
yes. As far as I'm concerned, you can have the women though I think they
may have something to say about it all. As for Brodhead, I can't wait,
but I've got to refresh my cross country navigarion skills.
>>
>> --------
>> Dale McCleskey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302993#302993
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Denver area parts |
Duff is the only place I know of near I-70 and Quebec St. East of Denver.
Owned and run by the orneriest old geezer you ever met (already checked for
old J-3 wing struts with no luck but he may have some now).
http://www.jwduffaircraft.com/
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:41 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
>
> do any of you know whether there may be any aircraft salvages in the Lamar
> to Denver area? I have to take a load of equipment up from Texas across
> southeast Colorado area to Aurora. if I thought there was anyone along the
> route that might have some old 6" wheels and brakes that might work on my
> gear legs for sale worth the money I'd sure be interested in checking them
> out.I'll likely stay overnight somewhere around Lamar anyway. it's a long
> trip up and back. Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
yocum137 wrote:
> Dale,
>
> If you can get your wife a ride in a Piet, or some other open cockpit
> airplane, she'll start to come around.
I'd have to second that idea.
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Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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| Subject: | Re: Newby coming to Brodhead |
Just point a course to Mecca and brodhead is directly at your 12:00.
No women? Well then,
do not archive
John
------Original Message------
From: Dale McCleskey
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newby coming to Brodhead
Sent: Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM
OK John and Mark, I can tell I've done got myself mixed up with a fun bunch.
John, my wife, Cheryl just isn't an aviation enthusiast, so won't even be coming,
and yet she insists on restricting my dating life, so yes. As far as I'm concerned,
you can have the women though I think they may have something to say
about it all. As for Brodhead, I can't wait, but I've got to refresh my cross
country navigarion skills.
--------
Dale McCleskey
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
If there is a problem with space;the ultralight instruments are shorter.Som
etimes they combine two different- instruments in one such as CHT (cylind
er head temp.)and EHT(exhaust head temp.).Now you may not need such things
on a four cycle machine but I feel the more info you have coming from it th
e better.Just my take on the matter.As for set up,I agree that your own per
sonal happiness with what you want is-the best.The way you have it now ma
y be just the way you want it. --=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________________
______=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Pietenpol List <p
ietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Tue, June 29, 2010 8:40:18 AM=0ASubjec
Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0A=0A=0AJack: panel layout is going to
be a very personal thing=0Aso I won't offer any suggestions different from
what you've=0Aalready seen here.- Just two comments: (1), I have a VSI i
n=0A41CC and never look at it... seat of the pants seems to=0Awork just as
well; (2) consider that the aileron cables=0Across inside the top cowl wher
e the backs of the instruments=0Aare, and make sure you won't have interfer
ence between the=0Ainstruments and the cables.- Deeper instruments, or th
ose=0Awith hoses or cables coming out the back (like the tach)=0Aneed to be
checked in particular.=0A=0AOscar Zuniga=0AAir Camper NX41CC=0ASan Antonio
, TX=0Amailto: taildrags@hotmail.com=0Awebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.ne
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in an effort to break up the monotony of little stick cutting- i decided to
cut all the pieces for a complete rib and build one. only 29 more!
after i finish cutting all those little plywood pieces!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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Earl,
That is precisely how I completed my airplane. Just strive to complete the
next piece, whatever it is. Whenever you can. Keep on plugging.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jun 29, 2010 7:16 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: One Down!
in an effort to break up the monotony of little stick cutting- i decided
to
ut all the pieces for a complete rib and build one. only 29 more!
fter i finish cutting all those little plywood pieces!
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arl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up wh
ere I
ntended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight! 1st dead stick landing...... ever |
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
Or if you are really hurting for space you can have all your engine
instruments in one 3 1/4" hole.
rick
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:47 PM, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
> If there is a problem with space;the ultralight instruments are
> shorter.Sometimes they combine two different instruments in one such as CHT
> (cylinder head temp.)and EHT(exhaust head temp.).Now you may not need such
> things on a four cycle machine but I feel the more info you have coming from
> it the better.Just my take on the matter.As for set up,I agree that your own
> personal happiness with what you want is the best.The way you have it now
> may be just the way you want it.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> *To:* Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tue, June 29, 2010 8:40:18 AM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout
>
>
>
> Jack: panel layout is going to be a very personal thing
> so I won't offer any suggestions different from what you've
> already seen here. Just two comments: (1), I have a VSI in
> 41CC and never look at it... seat of the pants seems to
> work just as well; (2) consider that the aileron cables
> cross inside the top cowl where the backs of the instruments
> are, and make sure you won't have interference between the
> instruments and the cables. Deeper instruments, or those
> with hoses or cables coming out the back (like the tach)
> need to be checked in particular.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net href="
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank;
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>
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>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Big Piet meets little Piet |
I hope to have pictures later this summer of my
(Corky's) airplane side-by-side with a 50% scale
model of NX41CC. The model is being built here
in TX and will be powered by a 20HP motor. Yes,
the wingspan is 15 ft. and the chord is 30".
A gentleman (obviously, a model builder) was so
taken with 41CC that he just had to build a model
of it. I've seen some of the rest of his collection
and he builds FABULOUS ones. Some really amazing,
flying, RC models.
Stay tuned. And if it can be safely done, we
may just have to do a formation flight ;o) Talk
about disconcerting the masses; wait till we fly
in to the airport together and some unsuspecting
observer gets a glimpse-!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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And a real nice Pietenpol model hanging from the ceiling. The fun is just
beginning.
rick
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:16 PM, echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> in an effort to break up the monotony of little stick cutting- i decided to
> cut all the pieces for a complete rib and build one. only 29 more!
> after i finish cutting all those little plywood pieces!
>
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> Earl Brown
>
> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up
> where I intended to be.
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Earl,
Or you could do like me, and stretch out the monotony of cutting little
sticks for 2+ years!!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of echobravo4
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: One Down!
in an effort to break up the monotony of little stick cutting- i decided to
cut all the pieces for a complete rib and build one. only 29 more!
after i finish cutting all those little plywood pieces!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up
where I intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
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No dials or gauges?.....Harrumph!!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout
Or if you are really hurting for space you can have all your engine
instruments in one 3 1/4" hole.
rick
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:47 PM, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
If there is a problem with space;the ultralight instruments are
shorter.Sometimes they combine two different instruments in one such as CHT
(cylinder head temp.)and EHT(exhaust head temp.).Now you may not need such
things on a four cycle machine but I feel the more info you have coming from
it the better.Just my take on the matter.As for set up,I agree that your own
personal happiness with what you want is the best.The way you have it now
may be just the way you want it.
_____
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 8:40:18 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout
Jack: panel layout is going to be a very personal thing
so I won't offer any suggestions different from what you've
already seen here. Just two comments: (1), I have a VSI in
41CC and never look at it... seat of the pants seems to
work just as well; (2) consider that the aileron cables
cross inside the top cowl where the backs of the instruments
are, and make sure you won't have interference between the
instruments and the cables. Deeper instruments, or those
with hoses or cables coming out the back (like the tach)
need to be checked in particular.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net <http://www.flysquirrel.net/>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank;
-Matt Dralle, Listion" ======
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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That's one more than I have built! Keep on keepin on.
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Denver area parts |
Thanks Rick. I should have asked earlier.I made it to the place I needed to drop
off the parts directly north of the Air bas and started home-got as far as Springfield
before shutting down for the night.I will see about calling him anyway
thanks to the link.appreciate it. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Layout |
It's not the number of instruments on the panel for space he was concerned
about.He is concerned about the length of the instruments going behide the
panel.How far in it travels before it hits the control cables.The ultraligh
t instuments are very short.Only 1" or 1 1/2-" long compared to 3 or 4 in
ches.-Just a word of advice;while building your instrument panel I would
have it at an angle,further out at the bottom and further in at the top so
it is easy to see when flying.I am going to have to modify mine.I can't see
half the instruments unless I bend over or slunk down in the seat.=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gm
ail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, June 29, 2010 9:08
:22 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout=0A=0AOr if you are reall
y hurting for space you can have all your engine instruments in one 3 1/4"
hole.=0A=0Arick=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:47 PM, H RULE <harvey.ru
le@rogers.com> wrote:=0A=0AIf there is a problem with space;the ultralight
instruments are shorter.Sometimes they combine two different- instruments
in one such as CHT (cylinder head temp.)and EHT(exhaust head temp.).Now yo
u may not need such things on a four cycle machine but I feel the more info
you have coming from it the better.Just my take on the matter.As for set u
p,I agree that your own personal happiness with what you want is-the best
.The way you have it now may be just the way you want it. --=0A>=0A>=0A
>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmai
l.com>=0A>To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0A>Sent: Tue, J
une 29, 2010 8:40:18 AM=0A>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Panel Layout=0A>=0A>-->
Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0A>
=0A>=0A>Jack: panel layout is going to be a very personal thing=0A>so I won
't offer any suggestions different from what you've=0A>already seen here.
- Just two comments: (1), I have a VSI in=0A>41CC and never look at it...
seat of the pants seems to=0A>work just as well; (2) consider that the ail
eron cables=0A>cross inside the top cowl where the backs of the instruments
=0A>are, and make sure you won't have interference between the=0A>instrumen
ts and the cables.- Deeper instruments, or those=0A>with hoses or cables
coming out the back (like the tach)=0A>need to be checked in particular.=0A
>=0A>Oscar Zuniga=0A>Air Camper NX41CC=0A>San Antonio, TX=0A>mailto: taildr
ags@hotmail.com=0A>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net --- --
- --- href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" ta
rget=_blank; - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, Listion" =
=======0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>" target="_blank">http://ww
w.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A>tp://forums.matronics.com=0A>_b
lank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0ARick Holl
and=0ACastle Rock, Colorado=0A=0A"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that
smell bad" =0A
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