---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/02/10: 48 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:44 AM - Re: Newbie from SW Kansas (Dan P) 2. 04:05 AM - Re: office staple gun (H RULE) 3. 05:41 AM - Cluttered archives (Lawrence Williams) 4. 05:59 AM - Re: Cluttered archives (Jeff Boatright) 5. 06:20 AM - Re: beer and brats (Paul N. Peckham) 6. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Frank Metcalfe) 7. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Dan Yocum) 8. 07:41 AM - Another Piet roars to life! (899PM) 9. 07:48 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (kevinpurtee) 10. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Jim Markle) 11. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 12. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Rick Holland) 13. 08:44 AM - Fw: Countdown has begun, Beer and Brats? (Ben Charvet) 14. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: beer and brats (airlion) 15. 09:50 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 16. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Dan Yocum) 17. 10:05 AM - disgruntled Williams.... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 18. 10:25 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (899PM) 19. 10:35 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (Jim) 20. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: homemade pitot tube? (Boothe, Gary) 21. 10:37 AM - Re: disgruntled Williams.... (Tim Willis) 22. 10:37 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (Dan Yocum) 23. 11:02 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (j_dunavin) 24. 11:36 AM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (899PM) 25. 12:06 PM - Re: time is close and we are counting down (dgaldrich) 26. 12:38 PM - Re: time is close and we are counting down (TOM STINEMETZE) 27. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: time is close and we are counting down (Ryan Mueller) 28. 12:46 PM - Brodhead 1st Timers (Gary Boothe) 29. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: time is close and we are counting down (Gary Boothe) 30. 01:08 PM - Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 31. 01:11 PM - Re: time is close and we are counting down (K5YAC) 32. 01:23 PM - for the record-- there is FISH on Friday at Brodhead only (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 33. 02:05 PM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (H RULE) 34. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: time is close and we are counting down (Jim) 35. 02:35 PM - Re: time is close and we are counting down (Paul N. Peckham) 36. 02:39 PM - Re: Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive (Gary Boothe) 37. 02:52 PM - Re: Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive (Dan P) 38. 02:52 PM - Re: office staple gun (Dave and Connie) 39. 03:14 PM - Re: Brodhead 1st Timers (j_dunavin) 40. 03:27 PM - Re: Brodhead 1st Timers (Kringle) 41. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers (Ryan Mueller) 42. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers (Ryan Mueller) 43. 06:23 PM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (Pieti Lowell) 44. 06:44 PM - Re: Brodhead 1st Timer () 45. 06:44 PM - Re: Airplane plans (Dan P) 46. 08:06 PM - Re: Another Piet roars to life! (899PM) 47. 09:03 PM - Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Greg Cardinal) 48. 09:15 PM - Re: Brodhead 1st Timers (j_dunavin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:23 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie from SW Kansas From: "Dan P" Mark, We were down there on Saturday and missed the burger bash. We became aware of Roger's Piet when we were leaving and did spend a few minutes looking at it. JM, Tentatively, We plan to be there Sat morning July 10th for a final inspection and to take care of the paper work. Then to it's new home it goes. :) If your around come on by. I did consider building one. But after just finishing a two year Chevelle body off restoration I'm wore out and would rather just be flying. -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303448#303448 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:32 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: office staple gun You guys have to start putting in DO NOT ARCHIVE or everything will go into the archives and some poor bugger looking for in info is going to have to go through all this stuff to find what he wants.=0ADO NOT ARCHIVE!!!!!!!=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Clif Dawson =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, July 1, 2010 11 :17:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: office staple gun=0A=0A=0AYes, and also the one constrained by one's significant other=0Afor years and/or fam ily health issues.=0AFor the past ten years I figure mine has cost me the e quivalent=0Aof a dinner out for two each month.=0A-=0AClif=0A-=0ALife i s not about waiting for the storm to pass,=0AIt's about learning to dance i n the rain.=0AI believe you left out one:=0A>The Dreamer- This is the guy who eats, sleeps, and dreams airplanes all the time but never believes he/ she has the resources to ever do anything about it (until age 54 in my case .)- If he's lucky something happens that give him/her a swift kick in the pants to get started.- From that point on it's just a matter of persever ance.-- It's amazing how much you can get accomplished $10 - $100 at a time.=0A>-=0A>Tom Stinemetze=0A>N328X=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>href="http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?P ietenpol-List=0A>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matroni cs.com=0A>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matroni cs.com/c=0A>=0A________________________________=0A- Release Date: 06/30/10 ======================= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:32 AM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cluttered archives AW-W-W-W, c'mon, guys........help out Mr. Draille and all of the new Piet guys who actually go to the archives to get info. If all you are going to say is something like,"Wow, great picture", or "I did mine that way, too", or "Golly gee-whiz, I can't wait to get to Brodhead", PLEEEEEZ put a DO NOT ARCHIVE tag on your post so it doesn't take up space in the archives. Many posts should probably go directly to the interested party instead of the entire group, anyway. My pittance of a rant for the third quarter of 2010. Y'all have fun at Brodhead, I'll be there next year. Get a model "A". Don't use staples or nails, use weights. If you're going to needle J.M., get on him about his lack of building........maybe we should out-source his project so he can get into the air before he needs a walker. "A little less talk and a lot more action" could be the byword for this group. Larry Williams ( I don't have a fancy nickname or an alphabet after my name so I just use the one my Mom & Dad gave me. I feel so pitiful!!!)) do not archive (whether you want to or not) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:56 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cluttered archives Well, everyone should always be interested in everything I have to say, so of course it should be archived! do not archive -- Jeff Boatright Do not archive Do not resuscitate Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate Do not pass Go Do not collect $200 Do not fly with anyone crazier than you Do not piss off Matt ...or Larry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: beer and brats From: "Paul N. Peckham" jack(at)textors.com wrote: > Mike, > Lest not forget the cheese curds, scotch and strange noises and aroma > emanating from the surrounding tents...Hope to be there Thursday night. > Jack > DSM > Do not archive > -- Strange noises? I thought it was some horns tooting. Apparently it was some other kind of tooting. Here's hoping the wind is blowing in a favorable direction. Paul Absolutely, do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303462#303462 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:58 AM PST US From: Frank Metcalfe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? Yea sorry in refrigeration we-use MPT...Male....Pipe...Thread=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ben Charvet =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, June 28, 2010 4:19:43 P M=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube?=0A=0AI believe th ats 1/8 NPT (national pipe thread)- You can buy barb or compression fitti ngs to fit at Ace Hardware Aircraft Supply=0ABen=0AOn 6/28/2010 8:51 AM, Fr ank Metcalfe wrote: =0A1/8 MPT=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A__________________________ ______=0AFrom: Dan Yocum =0A>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.c om=0A>Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 7:51:50 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: R cum =0A>=0A>Again, I refer back to Mike's installation.- He and Jeff B. plugged =0A>their static ports with plastic plugs drilled wi th small holes (1/16"?).=0A>=0A>Speaking of the static ports on the back of instruments, does anyone =0A>know off the top of their head what size and thread gauge these =0A>typically are?=0A>=0A>Thanks,=0A>Dan=0A>=0A>=0A>On 0 6/27/2010 11:03 PM, j_dunavin wrote:=0A>> -->- Pietenpol-List message pos ted by: "j_dunavin"=0A>>=0A>> very cool! OK I was al l worried about a $200 pitot tube.=0A>> As for the static... since it is op en cockpit, couldn't you just leave all the static ports open? Or all run t o one point source in the cockpit?=0A>> One less line to run?=0A>>=0A>>=0A> >=0A>>=0A>> Read this topic online here:=0A>>=0A>> http://forums.matronics. com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>Dan Yocum=0A>Fermilab- 630.840.6509=0A>yocum@fna l.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov=0A>"I fly because it releases my mind from =- - - - - - The ; - - - - - - - - -Matt Drall e, Lis=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigat or?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A> hr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A> href=" http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributio ======================= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:57 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? Wikipedia says that NPT, national pipe thread, is synonymous with MPT, male pipe thread, so you're both correct. Are you sure it's a 1/8" and not a 1/4" fitting? I'm not sure what the builder used to seal the fittings into the instruments, but dang! they are in there tight. It looks like some sort of black gunk. Maybe he used epoxy, but I hope not. Thanks! Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet roars to life! From: "899PM" After 12 years , 899PM roared to life last night for the first time! What a thrill....I am still grinning. I posted to YouTube. Search Cushway Pietenpol if this link does not work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_Mp0-YFWQ -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303467#303467 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet roars to life! From: "kevinpurtee" Outstanding. Congratulations! Looks great. do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303468#303468 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:27 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? It's 1/8" on mine.... DO archive because I'm personally very impressed with everything I have to say and when I'm old and hopefully can still move my walker over to the computer...I want to read my rantings over and over and over.... sorry, I couldn't help myself... It's 1/8" on all of my instruments. checked out/re-packed camping gear for the Brodhead trip yesterday and out to the workshop today to ACTUALLY work on MY Piet..... -----Original Message----- >From: Dan Yocum >Sent: Jul 2, 2010 9:10 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? > > >Wikipedia says that NPT, national pipe thread, is synonymous with MPT, >male pipe thread, so you're both correct. > >Are you sure it's a 1/8" and not a 1/4" fitting? > >I'm not sure what the builder used to seal the fittings into the >instruments, but dang! they are in there tight. It looks like some sort >of black gunk. Maybe he used epoxy, but I hope not. > >Thanks! >Dan > > >-- >Dan Yocum >Fermilab 630.840.6509 >yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:55 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? I would really hate that especially if it were the all application and plumbers friend pipe dope. That stuff is awful to clean up, does a great job of sealing but nasty to remove, clean up or open pipe that's been sitting for some time. Do not archive Less Yawanna In a message dated 7/2/2010 10:11:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yocum@fnal.gov writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum Wikipedia says that NPT, national pipe thread, is synonymous with MPT, male pipe thread, so you're both correct. Are you sure it's a 1/8" and not a 1/4" fitting? I'm not sure what the builder used to seal the fittings into the instruments, but dang! they are in there tight. It looks like some sort of black gunk. Maybe he used epoxy, but I hope not. Thanks! Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? From: Rick Holland Chauvinist Pig! do not archive On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Frank Metcalfe wrote: > Yea sorry in refrigeration we use MPT...Male....Pipe...Thread > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ben Charvet > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 4:19:43 PM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? > > I believe thats 1/8 NPT (national pipe thread) You can buy barb or > compression fittings to fit at Ace Hardware Aircraft Supply > Ben > On 6/28/2010 8:51 AM, Frank Metcalfe wrote: > > 1/8 MPT > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dan Yocum > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 7:51:50 AM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? > > > Again, I refer back to Mike's installation. He and Jeff B. plugged > their static ports with plastic plugs drilled with small holes (1/16"?). > > Speaking of the static ports on the back of instruments, does anyone > know off the top of their head what size and thread gauge these > typically are? > > Thanks, > Dan > > > On 06/27/2010 11:03 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "j_dunavin" > > > > > very cool! OK I was all worried about a $200 pitot tube. > > As for the static... since it is open cockpit, couldn't you just leave > all the static ports open? Or all run to one point source in the cockpit? > > One less line to run? > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from = - The ; > -Matt Dralle, Lis > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > *ht --> http://www.matronics.com/contributi============= > * > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:53 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Fwd: Pietenpol-List: Countdown has begun, Beer and Brats? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Pietenpol-List: Countdown has begun, Beer and Brats? From: Ben Charvet I got a copy of the July BPA newsletter from Doc Mosher today, and there is a picture of my wife and me after her first flight. I told her she will be famous at Brodhead now. We'll be there Friday morning, but tell me more about the Beer and Brats! Sure sounds better than boiled fish. Ben Charvet ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:14 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: beer and brats I can bring my special concoction of sourcrawt ( redneck cabbage) for the brats. It is good. Gardiner. PS You ain't heard nothing yet ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul N. Peckham Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 9:19:53 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: beer and brats jack(at)textors.com wrote: > Mike, > Lest not forget the cheese curds, scotch and strange noises and aroma > emanating from the surrounding tents...Hope to be there Thursday night. > Jack > DSM > Do not archive > -- Strange noises? I thought it was some horns tooting. Apparently it was some other kind of tooting. Here's hoping the wind is blowing in a favorable direction. Paul Absolutely, do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303462#303462 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:12 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet roars to life! Outstanding ! Sounds wonderful and looks great. Congrats and hope to see Papa Mike's plane at Brodhead, 2011. So Mike Cushway sold this one right or are you Mike Cushway ? I know Mike sold his partially completed Sky Scout to Earl Myers which eventually made it to Dennis (can't think of his last name) at Bhead who eventually flew it but not sure about Mike's Air Camper project. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:21 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? Don't get yer undies in a bunch, there's FPT, too. do not archive oink On 07/02/2010 09:43 AM, Rick Holland wrote: > Chauvinist Pig! > > do not archive > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Frank Metcalfe > wrote: > > Yea sorry in refrigeration we use MPT...Male....Pipe...Thread > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Ben Charvet > > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 4:19:43 PM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? > > I believe thats 1/8 NPT (national pipe thread) You can buy barb or > compression fittings to fit at Ace Hardware Aircraft Supply > Ben > On 6/28/2010 8:51 AM, Frank Metcalfe wrote: >> 1/8 MPT >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Dan Yocum >> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> >> *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 7:51:50 AM >> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? >> >> > >> >> Again, I refer back to Mike's installation. He and Jeff B. plugged >> their static ports with plastic plugs drilled with small holes >> (1/16"?). >> >> Speaking of the static ports on the back of instruments, does anyone >> know off the top of their head what size and thread gauge these >> typically are? >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> >> >> On 06/27/2010 11:03 PM, j_dunavin wrote: >> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: >> "j_dunavin"> >> > >> > very cool! OK I was all worried about a $200 pitot tube. >> > As for the static... since it is open cockpit, couldn't you just >> leave all the static ports open? Or all run to one point source in >> the cockpit? >> > One less line to run? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302773#302773 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Dan Yocum >> Fermilab 630.840.6509 >> yocum@fnal.gov , http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >> "I fly because it releases my mind from = - The ; >> -Matt Dralle, Lis >> >> >> >> * >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * > > *ht --> http://www.matronics.com/contributi============= > > * > > * > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:05:49 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: disgruntled Williams.... I know what is wrong with Larry Williams. He's not coming to Brodhead thi s year after the FANTASTIC 80th anniversary event we had last year and he's a bit crabby about it but I have to agree with Larry on ALL of his points. Great list Larry. My favorite was a little less talk and a lot more action. Sounds like a country western song:) Another reason Larry is crabby is that he doesn't have one of those trendy signature tag lines that have become somewhat popular or some kind of mission statement after his name that takes longer to read than his actual post. We'll try to help you out Larry. I'll give a shot at making you feel les s pitiful even though you're not. Try this one on. Larry Williams, "Airplane builder and flyer, tamer of wild beasts, women, and full motion f light simulators, Going where no man has gone and going there slower, Living with the knowledge that years of flying IMC may have affecte d my senses, and professing that anything older is usually better." do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet roars to life! From: "899PM" Mike, I am Mike Cushway. I bought the Sky Scout from Earl and several years later sold it to Dennis Hall. It is now in a museum out in Washington State. I started the Air Camper in 1997, sold it to Dick Walling during a divorce and then bought it back( thanx to my new bride!) in 2008. I am aiming for Brodhead 2011! Splitting my time between my 1938 Taylorcraft restoration and the Piet. Flying the Cub this year....see ya there! -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303486#303486 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:25 AM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet roars to life! Congratulations!!! It looks and sounds good; one of these days... Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Jul 2, 2010, 899PM wrote: After 12 years , 899PM roared to life last night for the first time! What a thrill....I am still grinning. I posted to YouTube. Search Cushway Pietenpol if this link does not work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_Mp0-YFWQ -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303467#303467 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:32 AM PST US From: "Boothe, Gary" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? Working on the Piet? That's the best news today!! Gary Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com Sent: Fri Jul 02 09:31:36 2010 Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? It's 1/8" on mine.... DO archive because I'm personally very impressed with everything I have to say and when I'm old and hopefully can still move my walker over to the computer...I want to read my rantings over and over and over.... sorry, I couldn't help myself... It's 1/8" on all of my instruments. checked out/re-packed camping gear for the Brodhead trip yesterday and out to the workshop today to ACTUALLY work on MY Piet..... -----Original Message----- >From: Dan Yocum >Sent: Jul 2, 2010 9:10 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: homemade pitot tube? > > >Wikipedia says that NPT, national pipe thread, is synonymous with MPT, >male pipe thread, so you're both correct. > >Are you sure it's a 1/8" and not a 1/4" fitting? > >I'm not sure what the builder used to seal the fittings into the >instruments, but dang! they are in there tight. It looks like some sort >of black gunk. Maybe he used epoxy, but I hope not. > >Thanks! >Dan > > >-- >Dan Yocum >Fermilab 630.840.6509 >yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:34 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: disgruntled Williams.... Mikee said, "My favorite was a little less talk and a lot more action. Sounds like a country western song." Actually it was Elvis and it was a rock number with strange background. Tim in central TX do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:40 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet roars to life! Pockita-pockita-pockita! What a great sound. Those are gorgeous panels, too. Congratulations! do not archive On 07/02/2010 09:41 AM, 899PM wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "899PM" > > After 12 years , 899PM roared to life last night for the first time! What a thrill....I am still grinning. I posted to YouTube. Search Cushway Pietenpol if this link does not work. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_Mp0-YFWQ > > -------- > PAPA MIKE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303467#303467 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:02:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet roars to life! From: "j_dunavin" Is that a garden hose feeding water to the engine?? Looks great by the way! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303494#303494 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:46 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet roars to life! From: "899PM" Yes it is a garden hose......I almost have enough rounded up to fly my 40 mile radius. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303497#303497 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down From: "dgaldrich" You guys aren't talking lutefisk are you? PLEEESE say NO. My wife's family is Norsk and I have successfully avoided the church lutefisk dinners in Milwaukee for years by careful scheduling of work. Don't get me wrong. I love seafood but there's something about my wife's description of making lutefisk that removes it from the category of edible. Sign me up for the brats and I'll bring a bunch of extra beer. Dave Aldrich Ribs done Tail feathers done Corvair engine almost done Fuselage sides done Wife taught to do rib stitching Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303501#303501 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:16 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down Ah Yes. Reminds me of a T-Shirt I almost bought in Lindsborg, KS ("Little Sweden USA"). It pictured a man sitting in a restaurant with a waiter looking over his shoulder. The man asked; "Waiter, what is that fly doing in my lutefisk?" and the waiter answers; "Gagging." Actually, lutefisk is usually Cod fish which has been dried out to the consistency of a board. (Possibly usable in lieu of spruce?) It is said that you can lean a lutefisk plank up against the front porch all winter and the wild animals will avoid your yard. It is then reconstituted by soaking in a solution of lye water before cooking. YUM! Tom Stinemetze definitely do not archive as no one will want to see this later. >>> "dgaldrich" 7/2/2010 2:06 PM >>> > You guys aren't talking lutefisk are you? PLEEESE say NO. My wife's family is Norsk and I have successfully avoided the church lutefisk dinners in Milwaukee for years by careful scheduling of work. Don't get me wrong. I love seafood but there's something about my wife's description of making lutefisk that removes it from the category of edible. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down From: Ryan Mueller No, it is definitely not lutefisk. Just normal fish that has been transformed into that hellish creation. :P It's a tradition....don't recall if they sell tickets, but make sure and get yours if they do.... Ryan do not archive On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, dgaldrich wrote: > dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> > > You guys aren't talking lutefisk are you? PLEEESE say NO. My wife's > family is Norsk and I have successfully avoided the church lutefisk dinners > in Milwaukee for years by careful scheduling of work. Don't get me wrong. > I love seafood but there's something about my wife's description of making > lutefisk that removes it from the category of edible. > > Sign me up for the brats and I'll bring a bunch of extra beer. > > Dave Aldrich > Ribs done > Tail feathers done > Corvair engine almost done > Fuselage sides done > Wife taught to do rib stitching > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303501#303501 > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:52 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 1st Timers Here's some advice for all of you attending Brodhead for the first time, and looking for your 1st ride in a Piet. I'm giving you plenty of time to practice. Stand in front of the mirror and work on that hang-dog, forlorn, dejected countenance.you know.the one you used to use when your girl friend said, "NO." Some nice pilot will come along, like Greg Cardinal, and ask you if you want to go for a ride that you will never forget! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:42 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down ".It is then reconstituted by soaking in a solution of lye water before cooking." I think I heard about that recipe.you then throw out the fish and drink the lye water, right? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down Ah Yes. Reminds me of a T-Shirt I almost bought in Lindsborg, KS ("Little Sweden USA"). It pictured a man sitting in a restaurant with a waiter looking over his shoulder. The man asked; "Waiter, what is that fly doing in my lutefisk?" and the waiter answers; "Gagging." Actually, lutefisk is usually Cod fish which has been dried out to the consistency of a board. (Possibly usable in lieu of spruce?) It is said that you can lean a lutefisk plank up against the front porch all winter and the wild animals will avoid your yard. It is then reconstituted by soaking in a solution of lye water before cooking. YUM! Tom Stinemetze definitely do not archive as no one will want to see this later. >>> "dgaldrich" 7/2/2010 2:06 PM >>> You guys aren't talking lutefisk are you? PLEEESE say NO. My wife's family is Norsk and I have successfully avoided the church lutefisk dinners in Milwaukee for years by careful scheduling of work. Don't get me wrong. I love seafood but there's something about my wife's description of making lutefisk that removes it from the category of edible. ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:49 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive I don't know about you guys but every time I watch this I about wet myself laughing. Nice work John. Whenever I'm in a not so hot mood this really makes me laugh ! http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017 do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down From: "K5YAC" Yes, they sell tickets. We promptly purchased tickets for both meals as soon as we arrived... had no idea what the meals were really about, but I'll just say that I had to take the wife and kiddo to McDonalds after dinner. We like things like fried catfish, lightly battered crappie, etc., but that boiled fish ball wasn't our cut of tea. On the other hand, the pork chop dinner on Saturday night was great! -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303509#303509 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:44 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: for the record-- there is FISH on Friday at Brodhead only I was totally KIDDING about there being brats served by the Brodhead organizers on Friday night of the fly-in. Friday night they are NOT serving brats but FISH. I was joking about the brats at the end of Runway 9. I don't want the organizers of this fine event to have a bunch of people asking about brats when there absolutely won't be any served in the chow hangar. It will be boiled fish and I heard it is just delicious---like going to Red Lobster but only better. Unless you bring your own brats, steaks, fajitas, or waffles, they are serving fish on Friday at Brodhead. The breakfasts are pretty good there......makes me hungry thinking about it. Those volunteers REALLY bust their butts, empty trash all over the airport--they do a zillion things for us to make it such a carefree event. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:06 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet roars to life! Lookin and soundin fantastic;stick some wings on that thing and go flyin ri ght now.=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: 899PM =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Fri, July 2, 2010 10:41:02 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Another P riverrifle@hotmail.com>=0A=0AAfter 12 years , 899PM roared to life last nig ht for the first time! What a thrill....I am still grinning. I posted to Yo uTube. Search Cushway Pietenpol if this link does not work.=0A=0Ahttp://www .youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_Mp0-YFWQ=0A=0A--------=0APAPA MIKE=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A Read this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:06 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down Our neighbors when I lived in South Dakota always had Lutefisk during the family get-togethers at holidays. My mother actually got to where she like it; but she used to eat pickled pigs feet as well. Shows how desperate people get when its 20 to 40 below zero and the wind is howling, your car won't start and you have to throw the dog outside to do his job. Do not archive Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Jul 2, 2010, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: Ah Yes. Reminds me of a T-Shirt I almost bought in Lindsborg, KS ("Little Sweden USA"). It pictured a man sitting in a restaurant with a waiter looking over his shoulder. The man asked; "Waiter, what is that fly doing in my lutefisk?" and the waiter answers; "Gagging." Actually,lutefisk is usually Cod fish which has been dried out to the consistency of a board. (Possibly usable in lieu of spruce?) It is said that you can lean a lutefisk plank up against the front porch all winter and the wild animals will avoid your yard. It is then reconstituted by soaking in a solution of lye water before cooking. YUM!Tom Stinemetzedefinitely do not archive as no one will want to see this later. >>> "dgaldrich" 7/2/2010 2:06 PM >>> You guys aren't talking lutefisk are you? PLEEESE say NO. My wife's family is Norsk and I have successfully avoided the church lutefisk dinners in Milwaukee for years by careful scheduling of work. Don't get me wrong. I love seafood but there's something about my wife's description of making lutefisk that removes it from the category of edible. ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: time is close and we are counting down From: "Paul N. Peckham" Ryan is right. A fish boil is definitely not Lutefisk. It's a tradition out of Door County, which is above Green Bay on the peninsula. Whitefish is usually the fish used, and as I recall, they throw in red potatoes and onions. The Brodhead bunch do a great job with the meal. A brat on the other hand is a hotdog on steroids. All right, enough of the cooking class. Back to the Pietenpols. Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303513#303513 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:33 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive Thanks, Mike!...made my day. Just returned from town, where I picked up oil breather hoses, voltage regulator and condensers..the march goes on. Happy 4th to all! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive I don't know about you guys but every time I watch this I about wet myself laughing. Nice work John. Whenever I'm in a not so hot mood this really makes me laugh ! http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017 do not archive ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Markle video by John Hofmann---do not archive From: "Dan P" Now, that right there is funny. [Mr. Green] -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303515#303515 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:31 PM PST US From: Dave and Connie Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: office staple gun Actually I would prefer to see D_O NOT ARCHIVE a bit less often. It has appeared on a lot of posts that have very good technical information in them. Granted, it would have been appropriate in this case. Dave H RULE wrote: > You guys have to start putting in D_O NOT ARCHIVE or everything will > go into the archives and some poor bugger looking for in info is going > to have to go through all this stuff to find what he wants. > D_O NOT ARCHIVE!!!!!!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ** ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers From: "j_dunavin" I'll be driving :( I have never been, though and wondered if someone could post a map. Are there any events on Sat. Or just come and enjoy? Any gate to check in at? Looking for some details. Thanks Joe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303518#303518 ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers From: "Kringle" I've already been practicing! -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303519#303519 ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers From: Ryan Mueller Insofar as getting to the airport, Google Maps or any of the popular online mapping resources can map you a route if you search for directions to: Brodhead Airport Brodhead, WI I took the liberty of extracting the map page from an old MAAC newsletter from a couple years ago. This is a general map of the grounds as they were setup for the MAAC fly-in in September of that year: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/brodheadmap.jpg To those that will use this, please note: this is just to give you an idea of how the airport is laid out. This is not official for this year's Piet/Hatz fly-in. There is always the possibility that things could be slightly rearranged, or slightly different. :P (although it will probably be setup pretty close to this) Ryan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:14 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > > I'll be driving :( > I have never been, though and wondered if someone could post a map. Are > there any events on Sat. Or just come and enjoy? Any gate to check in at? > Looking for some details. > Thanks > Joe > ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers From: Ryan Mueller You asked about events on Saturday, forgot about that. There will be various talks (forums) given throughout the day on Saturday at the hangar next to the pavilion with the picnic tables. The schedule is usually posted in the BPA newsletter. Our issue hasn't showed up yet, so maybe one of the lucky dogs that already has theirs can post up the schedule. Other than that it is just hang out and enjoy! Ryan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Insofar as getting to the airport, Google Maps or any of the popular online > mapping resources can map you a route if you search for directions to: > > Brodhead Airport > Brodhead, WI > > I took the liberty of extracting the map page from an old MAAC newsletter > from a couple years ago. This is a general map of the grounds as they were > setup for the MAAC fly-in in September of that year: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/brodheadmap.jpg > > To those that will use this, please note: this is just to give you an idea > of how the airport is laid out. This is not official for this year's > Piet/Hatz fly-in. There is always the possibility that things could be > slightly rearranged, or slightly different. :P (although it will probably > be setup pretty close to this) > > Ryan > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:14 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > >> >> I'll be driving :( >> I have never been, though and wondered if someone could post a map. Are >> there any events on Sat. Or just come and enjoy? Any gate to check in at? >> Looking for some details. >> Thanks >> Joe >> > ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet roars to life! From: "Pieti Lowell" Mike: I can tell by the blur of the prop haze, that you are a copy-cat, Douwe's Ford had the very same prop blur, I want to thank you for your help and input during Douwe's Engine test. Did you try full throttle yet ?Bet you can not turn up the RPM's that Douwes did. But maybe close, all that it takes is 1800. You are on the right track, keep chugging. See you at Brodhead Mike. Pieti Lowell Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303531#303531 ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:04 PM PST US From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 1st Timer Doc sent us a "Author's Copy" of the July 2010 Brodhead Pietenpol Association Newsletter as it has a couple of pictures my son sent in for publication.The fourms (7) will be hourly from 10AM to 4PM. 10AM Ken Perkins..................... "Ford engines & other items of interest" 11AM Jack Philips....................... "Piet building timeframe & Procedures" 12AM Bill Rewey.........................."Pietenpol history" 1PM Jack McCarthy..................."EAA Regulations and you" 2PM Steve Williamson..............."Building a Piet as a Chapter endeavor" & Chapter 1279 3PM William Wynne..................."Corvair engines & other discussions" 4PM Bruce Laird,........................"The Big Piet Concept" Harold Johnson, & Frank Metcalfe -- Lynn Knoll Piet/Vair Wichita ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airplane plans From: "Dan P" Todd, you can find the plans here. http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/ -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303534#303534 ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet roars to life! From: "899PM" Lowell, I was going to give you a call tomorrow. If you have some time next week some evening stop by to look things over. I can not get above 1100rpm without it running extremely rich....almost like it is choking out. This is the "B" carb that I rebuilt. I am not sure what is wrong. As you may know the Zenith "B" has an accelerator circuit based on throttle shaft position. I am building the carb heat muff tomorrow. I have a great idle at 700rpm, anything less and it wants to quit. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303537#303537 ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:05 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger For the benefit of the new guys around here........... Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger- Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with your right foot......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight........... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air........... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight............. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 1st Timers From: "j_dunavin" OOO the schedule is up on Facebook! 10AM Ken Perkins.............."Ford engines & other items of interest" 11AM Jack Philips..............."Piet building timeframe & Procedures" 12AM Bill Rewey................"Pietenpol history" PM Jack McCarthy............"EAA Regulations and you" 2PM Steve Williamson........"Building a Piet as a Chapter endeavor" & Chapter 1279 3PM William Wynne............"Corvair engines & other discussions" 4PM Bruce Laird,................"The Big Piet Concept" Harold Johnson & Frank Metcalfe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303545#303545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.