Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 07/09/10


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:37 AM - Re: wing root covers for GN-1 (H RULE)
     2. 05:44 AM - Re: Materials List (echobravo4)
     3. 06:27 AM - That "Other" Fly-in... (gtche98)
     4. 07:06 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (Dan Yocum)
     5. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Jeff Boatright)
     6. 07:29 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (K5YAC)
     7. 08:36 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (Jeff wilson)
     8. 08:42 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (Jeff wilson)
     9. 08:48 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (K5YAC)
    10. 08:49 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (Dan Yocum)
    11. 08:50 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (Ryan Mueller)
    12. 09:19 AM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (Barry Davis)
    13. 02:36 PM - Yocum spotted with plane in VEGAS baby !  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    14. 02:40 PM - TGWP on DVD (Wayne Bressler)
    15. 02:49 PM - Re: TGWP on DVD (John Hofmann)
    16. 03:31 PM - Re: TGWP on DVD (Wayne Bressler)
    17. 05:02 PM - Re: Yocum spotted with plane in VEGAS baby ! (Dan Yocum)
    18. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Dan Yocum)
    19. 06:55 PM - Re: That "Other" Fly-in... (echobravo4)
    20. 07:48 PM - Re: TGWP on DVD (John Recine)
    21. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Rick Holland)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:37:32 AM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: wing root covers for GN-1
    Thanks Jim,next time you come this way and we have more time I'll introduce you =0Ato her.=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________________ ____=0AFrom: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@ma tronics.com=0ASent: Thu, July 8, 2010 9:52:24 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-L im Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A=0AThat is a nice looking Air Campe r!=0A=0AI love the picture of the prop in motion....=0A=0AVery nice Harvey. ....=0A=0Ajm=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0A=0AFrom: H RULE =0A=0ASen t: Jul 8, 2010 6:03 PM=0A=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: wing root covers for GN-1=0A=0A=0A=0Ayou may have to blow t he picture up a bit but you can see them there on either =0Aside of the cen ter section=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List< =========================0A =================


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    Time: 05:44:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Materials List
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    Thanks Mark! That will be very useful- do not archive -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304301#304301


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    Time: 06:27:32 AM PST US
    Subject: That "Other" Fly-in...
    From: "gtche98" <garywilson213@yahoo.com>
    Unfortunately, I am not going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year, but I will be spending most of the following week at that little fly-in/airshow up in Oshkosh. Will any of you be making the trip to Oshkosh (with or without a Piet)? Is anyone aware of any Piet forums this year? Would like to meet some of you in person if possible. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304313#304313


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    Time: 07:06:29 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: That "Other" Fly-in...
    On 07/09/2010 08:27 AM, gtche98 wrote: > > Will any of you be making the trip to Oshkosh (with or without a Piet)? Is anyone aware of any Piet forums this year? Would like to meet some of you in person if possible. Doc Mosher will be giving a talk on Thursday around 10AM. The topic is the Zen of Pietenpols (or something like that). I don't recall exactly where it will be. The details are in the latest BPA newsletter. do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 07:19:14 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
    Hooray! > > >I'll spend a couple more hours in 'er in the next couple of weeks, >but it looks I'll be flying to Brodhead. :-D > >Dan > >-- >yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 07:29:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: That "Other" Fly-in...
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    I'll be at both events, but not with an airplane. -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304326#304326


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    Time: 08:36:36 AM PST US
    From: Jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com>
    Subject: That "Other" Fly-in...
    Dan, you say Doc Mosher is talking on Thursday morning at 10am. When does the fly-in start? I thought it was Friday. Many people have said differing things. Jeff Wilson N899WT St. Louis


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    Time: 08:42:20 AM PST US
    From: Jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com>
    Subject: That "Other" Fly-in...
    Dan, you say Doc Mosher is talking on Thursday morning at 10am. When does the fly-in start? I thought it was Friday. Many people have said differing things. Jeff Wilson N899WT St. Louis


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    Time: 08:48:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: That "Other" Fly-in...
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Jeff... I'm pretty sure that Dan is talking about Thursday, July 29th at Oshkosh. You know... that "other" fly in. -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304332#304332


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    Time: 08:49:54 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: That "Other" Fly-in...
    On 07/09/2010 10:36 AM, Jeff wilson wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff wilson<jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> > > Dan, you say Doc Mosher is talking on Thursday morning at 10am. When does the fly-in start? I thought it was Friday. Many people have said differing things. Doc's talk is on Thursday, July 29th at Oshkosh. The Brodhead Pietenpol Reunion starts Thursday July 22nd. Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:50:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: That "Other" Fly-in...
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Jeff, Dan was referring to the forum Doc will be presenting up at Oshkosh on Thursday 7/29: http://www.eaaapps.org/moreinfo.aspx?id=1762 <http://www.eaaapps.org/moreinfo.aspx?id=1762>"The Zen of Pietenpol Homebuilts" The dates for the Brodhead Piet fly-in are Thursday, July 22 through Saturday, July 24, per the BPA newsletter and Chapter 431 website. You can stay through to Sunday, but I think they changed it to not list it as an official day because the place clears out pretty quick on Sunday anyhow, what with people heading up to Oshkosh or back home. The "forum" schedule is in the BPA newsletter, and also on the 431 site: http://www.eaa431.org/ Here's the blurb from the 431 website: ---------------------------------- * * *35th Annual Pietenpol Reunion and Hatz Fly-in* ***July 23-25, 2010.* EAA Chapter 431 will be hosting supper on Thursday, Friday and Saturday evenings. Thursday evening=92s menu is Pork BBQ, Friday night will be the traditional fish boil, and Saturday night is the traditional Pork Chop Dinner. BBQ sandwiches, hot dogs, chili dogs and chips will be available a t the service window from 11am'2pm daily. Saturday morning is hot breakfas t. Camping on the airport is allowed with a suggested small donation to the Brodhead Chapter. ---------------------------------- Ryan On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dan, you say Doc Mosher is talking on Thursday morning at 10am. When does > the fly-in start? I thought it was Friday. Many people have said differin g > things. > > Jeff Wilson > N899WT > St. Louis > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 09:19:25 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: That "Other" Fly-in...
    Two or three of the Big Piets are coming to Brodhead and Airventure. We will be departing Georgia on Thursday am and maybe have an overnight at Frasca Field in Urbana. Doc talked Frank into having a seminar at Brodhead about group building the 6 Big Piets and now the pressure is on. If we get any suggestions for topics, we can modify our seminar to encompass any subject about building 6 planes in 6 years. Post anything you would like to hear. If you want to plan a time for all to get together at Oshkosh, I can send you my cell # and can work it into my schedule of duties. Barry Davis -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gtche98 Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: That "Other" Fly-in... --> <garywilson213@yahoo.com> Unfortunately, I am not going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year, but I will be spending most of the following week at that little fly-in/airshow up in Oshkosh. Will any of you be making the trip to Oshkosh (with or without a Piet)? Is anyone aware of any Piet forums this year? Would like to meet some of you in person if possible. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304313#304313


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    Time: 02:36:49 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Yocum spotted with plane in VEGAS baby !
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dK9uPl-lk&NR=1&feature=fvwp See 1:32 mark. do not archive


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    Time: 02:40:12 PM PST US
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    Subject: TGWP on DVD
    Hello, good people! Your prayers have been answered: http://www.historicaviation.com/product_info.po?ID=21435&product=Videos&category=flying&subcategory=Flying%20Adventures Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com


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    Time: 02:49:35 PM PST US
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    Subject: Re: TGWP on DVD
    What if I don't like it? do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Wayne Bressler wrote: <wayne@taildraggersinc.com> > > Hello, good people! > > Your prayers have been answered: > > http://www.historicaviation.com/product_info.po?ID=21435&product=Video s&category=flying&subcategory=Flying%20Adventures > > Wayne Bressler Jr. > Taildraggers, Inc. > taildraggersinc.com > > > >


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    Time: 03:31:57 PM PST US
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    Subject: Re: TGWP on DVD
    If you really don't like it, I'll give you another ride free. Do not archive Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com On Jul 9, 2010, at 5:49 PM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> wrote: > What if I don't like it? > > do not archive > > > John Hofmann > Vice-President, Information Technology > The Rees Group, Inc. > 2424 American Lane > Madison, WI 53704 > Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 > Fax: 608.443.2474 > Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com > > On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Wayne Bressler wrote: > >> > >> >> Hello, good people! >> >> Your prayers have been answered: >> >> http://www.historicaviation.com/product_info.po?ID=21435&product=Videos&category=flying&subcategory=Flying%20Adventures >> >> Wayne Bressler Jr. >> Taildraggers, - The --> >> &n======================= >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:02:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yocum spotted with plane in VEGAS baby !
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Ssssshhhh! What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas! Do not archive -- yocum@gmail.com On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:36 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corpo ration]"<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dK9uPl-lk&NR=1&feature=fvwp > > > See 1:32 mark. > > > do not archive > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 06:04:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    I swear, I can't win for losing! Took a ride up to Poplar Grove tonight and the oil temp got up to 82C and the pressure wouldn't go *below* 52psi durin g cruise and at idle it was at 35. I mean, seriously. Excuse my French, but Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?? I'm now fairly convinced the pressure gauge is flakier than my Aunt Ethel, t he way it pops around, but do I put the "old" style spring back in? Jeez! Any one care to venture a guess? Befuddled in Illinois -- yocum@gmail.com >


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    Time: 06:55:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: That "Other" Fly-in...
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    I'll be at both also- getting into Oshkosh the 22nd and will be heading down to Brodhead for the day on the 24th do not archive -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304373#304373


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    Time: 07:48:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TGWP on DVD
    From: "John Recine" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
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    Time: 08:43:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Not only certificated but certificated by a huge government bureaucracy called the FAA. Provided by the same government that gives us FEMA (remember those thousands of new house trailers rotting in some swamp outside Houston?), and the EPA (ensuring we have clean air to breath by letting us burn clean, cheap, Ethanol in our cars and most everything else). Yup, unless a big government bureaucracy approves it, I ain't flying it. NOT do not archive On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Kip and Beth Gardner < kipandbeth@earthlink.net> wrote: > kipandbeth@earthlink.net> > > As a charter member of the CS2, I find this eternal thread on the problems > of these highly reliable certificated aircraft engines ironically amusing > :). > > For god's sake, DO NOT ARCHIVE > > Kip Gardner > > On Jul 6, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Robert Gow wrote: > >> rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> >> >> My experience with my old Chief was similar. I took to priming the oil >> pump before each start by unscrewing the pressure line and squirting oil >> in. Oil pressure came up every time. Eventually I got a NOS rear case >> from Reno and fixed the problem once and for all. >> >> No paperwork . . . >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack >> Phillips >> Sent: July 6, 2010 3:52 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? >> >> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> With my old oil pressure gage, after I started the engine I would wait for >> nearly 30 seconds (and begin wondering whether I should shut the engine >> down) before the gage would begin to move. After about 30 seconds it >> would >> jump to about 10 psi, and after another 30 seconds it would jump again, to >> about 25 psi and then the third jump would take it to 35. >> >> As I said, this gage got where it would still read 35 psi, even a week >> after >> engine shutdown. If I tapped on the gage it would then drop to zero. Not >> much good as an indicator of impending engine problems... >> >> The new gage (of exactly the same type) now begins to climb off the peg >> almost as soon as I start the engine and smoothly increases to 35 psi. It >> is a Rochester gage that I bought from AS&S. >> >> Jack Phillips >> NX899JP >> Raleigh, NC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum >> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:30 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? >> >> >> Hey Jack, >> >> >> On 07/06/2010 02:01 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack >>> >> Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net> >> >>> >>> Dan, it might not hurt to pull the oil sump and give it a good cleaning. >>> That would also let you remove and clean the oil pickup tube, to verify >>> there are no pieces of rag in it. Check with Poplar Grove and see if >>> >> they >> >>> have a replacement gasket or you will have oil leaks for sure. >>> >>> >> >> And I had suggested maybe trying a different oil pressure gage, not >>> temperature gage. My gage went bad this year on the way to SNF, so I >>> >> know >> >>> it can happen. >>> >> >> You did mention that - I forgot. I will ask Eric if he's got a spare we >> can test with when he comes back out. >> >> Generally when I start 'er up it takes 20-30 seconds for the gauge to >> show any pressure, and then it "pops" up to about 40psi. What does your >> gauge do? Does it pop too, or does it increase more steadily? I >> realize this might be more a function of the oil pump than anything... >> >> >> >>> Good luck with it. Hope to see you in a couple of weeks at Brodhead. >>> >> >> Oh, I'll be there one way or another. If the plane is down, that'll >> give me a good excuse to bring more adult beverages for the evening >> festivities. >> >> Thanks! >> Dan >> >> -- >> Dan Yocum >> Fermilab 630.840.6509 >> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"




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