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Mon 07/12/10


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 12:50 AM - Air-Oil Cooled A (Clif Dawson)
     2. 02:50 AM - Re: Corvair magneto (Ben Charvet)
     3. 03:44 AM - Re: Corvair magneto (Jack Phillips)
     4. 05:08 AM - Re: Air-Oil Cooled A (Pieti Lowell)
     5. 05:32 AM - Landing gear height (Oscar Zuniga)
     6. 06:46 AM - Lost link (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     7. 07:46 AM - Re: Lost link (airlion)
     8. 11:18 AM - Re: Landing gear height (Dan Yocum)
     9. 12:14 PM - Piets near Rocky Mount, NC? (Jim Markle)
    10. 01:05 PM - Re: Piets near Rocky Mount, NC? (Jack Phillips)
    11. 03:08 PM - Re: Corvair magneto (skellytown flyer)
    12. 04:25 PM - Re: Corvair magneto (Pieti Lowell)
    13. 08:58 PM - New return to the list... finally getting started on my build. (motorbikemikexb9@comcast.net)
    14. 09:06 PM - Re: Kringle's Curious Question about projects (K5YAC)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:50:46 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Air-Oil Cooled A
    This turned up at Arlington. An A modified to use a combination of air and oil for cooling in an attempt to eliminate that big radiator. I don't have any more info but I may go to the Concrete ( yes, it's a town! ) later this month to the museum where it lives but in order to cross the border I have to take all my work stuff out of the truck. Then back in again later. Clif


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    Time: 02:50:59 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Corvair magneto
    If I'm not mistaken that reg includes the Mode C veil which is a 30 nm radius around Class B Airspace. I'm under 30 miles from Orlando International at my airport. Ben On 7/12/2010 12:43 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > There is no FAR saying that aircraft with electrical systems (engine > driven or otherwise) must have a transponder. You do not need > one......as long as you are going to avoid airspace that requires that > you have one. The clearest explanation that has been posted here > before was a Q&A between Chuck Gantzer and Cy Galley (NOTE: I edited > for brevity): > > ------------------------- > Question: If an aircraft has an engine driven electrical system, does > the FAR's require it to have a transponder ? > > Thank you > Chuck Gantzer > > Answer: The answer is NO... but if you want to fly thru or land at > class C, then you not only need a transponder plus an encoder. You > sometimes can get a waiver for one airport but it is a hassle. If you > don't have an engine driven electrical system then you can wander thru > the class C. > > I got a transponder and encoder as I am based at a Class C airport. I > contemplated getting a waiver BUT having a transponder helps prevent > jets from backing into me (TCAS). Encoder is cheap ($200)... > Transponder is couple thousand > with install. > > Cy Galley > ------------------------- > So there you have it. Unless where you fly from or where you plan on > flying to requires you to have a transponder to enter that airspace, > you do not need one with a Corvair powered aircraft. > > Ryan > > P.S.: I mentioned in another reply: Vertex Magnetos used to available > in a six cylinder version that would purportedly work on a Corvair, > but they are no longer available. If you could find one it would most > likely be more expensive than a used transponder anyhow. > > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:07 PM, skellytown flyer > <skellflyer1@yahoo.com <mailto:skellflyer1@yahoo.com>> wrote: > > <skellflyer1@yahoo.com <mailto:skellflyer1@yahoo.com>> > > I am still not happy with the requirements for a transponder to be > installed on an aircraft with an electrical system. I am looking > for an affordable plug-in style mag for my Corvair.I'd be > interested in hearing from anyone that might be running a mag on a > Corvair.or someone that might have one to sell or trade.I wonder > if there would be any way to have a for sale or trade section with > this site like the Kansas city Dawn patrol does but probably not > since it doesn't seem to be the same type of site. as you can tell > I am not very computer literate.but I have several items that I am > not using that might be of use to other builders like probably > most on this site do.so if you know anywhere to find a mag for > some more reasonable price that the race shops Id appreciate a > heads up.Raymond > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304526#304526 > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 03:44:02 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Corvair magneto
    You are correct, Ben. If you have an engine driven electrical system you must have a mode C transponder if flying under the 30 nm mode C veil. Otherwise not required, as long as you do not fly in class A,B, or C airspace, and do not fly over 10,000' MSL. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:47 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair magneto If I'm not mistaken that reg includes the Mode C veil which is a 30 nm radius around Class B Airspace. I'm under 30 miles from Orlando International at my airport. Ben On 7/12/2010 12:43 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: There is no FAR saying that aircraft with electrical systems (engine driven or otherwise) must have a transponder. You do not need one......as long as you are going to avoid airspace that requires that you have one. The clearest explanation that has been posted here before was a Q&A between Chuck Gantzer and Cy Galley (NOTE: I edited for brevity): ------------------------- Question: If an aircraft has an engine driven electrical system, does the FAR's require it to have a transponder ? Thank you Chuck Gantzer Answer: The answer is NO... but if you want to fly thru or land at class C, then you not only need a transponder plus an encoder. You sometimes can get a waiver for one airport but it is a hassle. If you don't have an engine driven electrical system then you can wander thru the class C. I got a transponder and encoder as I am based at a Class C airport. I contemplated getting a waiver BUT having a transponder helps prevent jets from backing into me (TCAS). Encoder is cheap ($200)... Transponder is couple thousand with install. Cy Galley ------------------------- So there you have it. Unless where you fly from or where you plan on flying to requires you to have a transponder to enter that airspace, you do not need one with a Corvair powered aircraft. Ryan P.S.: I mentioned in another reply: Vertex Magnetos used to available in a six cylinder version that would purportedly work on a Corvair, but they are no longer available. If you could find one it would most likely be more expensive than a used transponder anyhow. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:07 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> wrote: <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> I am still not happy with the requirements for a transponder to be installed on an aircraft with an electrical system. I am looking for an affordable plug-in style mag for my Corvair.I'd be interested in hearing from anyone that might be running a mag on a Corvair.or someone that might have one to sell or trade.I wonder if there would be any way to have a for sale or trade section with this site like the Kansas city Dawn patrol does but probably not since it doesn't seem to be the same type of site. as you can tell I am not very computer literate.but I have several items that I am not using that might be of use to other builders like probably most on this site do.so if you know anywhere to find a mag for some more reasonable price that the race shops Id appreciate a heads up.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304526#304526 ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution


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    Time: 05:08:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Air-Oil Cooled A
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Concept is perfect to reduce the radiator size, maybe location. I would love to have a head like that. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304567#304567


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    Time: 05:32:54 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Landing gear height
    Jerry; Depending on how much air is in the tires and how much fuel is in the tank, in the level flight attitude 41CC sits with the top of the top longeron anywhere from 51-54" so it sounds like that 51" dimension from the plans is pretty accurate. I could lift the tail and measure it but I won't be back at the hangar until Saturday. 41CC has 6.00x6s on the mains. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:46:47 AM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Lost link
    Some one had posted a link for a rust removal product for which I cant seem to locate would anyone be able to provide that link? Thanks in advance John Do not Archive Less Yawanna


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    Time: 07:46:41 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Lost link
    Try ospho. I used it a lot when I had my boat in salt water. Gardiner ________________________________ From: "AMsafetyC@aol.com" <AMsafetyC@aol.com> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 9:32:14 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lost link Some one had posted a link for a rust removal product for which I cant seem to locate would anyone be able to provide that link? Thanks in advance John Do not Archive Less Yawanna


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    Time: 11:18:33 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear height
    On 07/12/2010 01:09 AM, Clif Dawson wrote: > > Mine is 52" to the top of top longeron with 3.50X19 > wheels. Don't forget that the engine centerline is > below the longeron. mine is down 4". So that makes > 47" to the center of the prop. If you have a 72" prop > then the tip is only 11" from the ground until you > have a hard encounter in a level attitude. :-) In addition to being very long nosed, the prop on N8031 is directly in line with the top longeron - not 4" below. I don't know why. She seems to fly just fine, at least to me. Dan


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    Time: 12:14:50 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Piets near Rocky Mount, NC?
    I just got assigned a couple of days of work in the Rocky Mount NC area. Anyone know of any Piets or Piet builders in that area? jm


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    Time: 01:05:48 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Piets near Rocky Mount, NC?
    That's only about 60 miles from me, Jim. My Pietenpol is at the Sanford airport (KTTA) for the moment but by Wednesday it will be back in my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (W91). Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets near Rocky Mount, NC? I just got assigned a couple of days of work in the Rocky Mount NC area. Anyone know of any Piets or Piet builders in that area? jm


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    Time: 03:08:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair magneto
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    Well apparently I am miss-informed once again. if that is true I certainly will forget it and move on because I have no intentions of flying into the areas that require it.I generally give them a wide berth. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304618#304618


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    Time: 04:25:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair magneto
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Since one does little night work, I have an electric wheel chair that is powered by a 12 volt auto battery, a 2'X 3" X 12" Solar Panel. Is it's charger and I have never had to charge the battery any other way so far this summer. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304620#304620


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    Time: 08:58:04 PM PST US
    From: motorbikemikexb9@comcast.net
    Subject: New return to the list... finally getting started on my
    build. Hello again everyone. I was a new addition to the list last summer just after Oshkosh.=C2-=C2 - I planned on getting started on my Pietenpole then but the summer didn' t pan out as I thought it would.=C2- With my Wife and I planning our own wedding and honeymoon, getting married, fixing up our condo to sell to with plans to move into a=C2-new house.=C2- All the free time was exhausted .=C2- Unfortunately we leave for Honeymoon=C2-to Italy on the Sunday of the Broadhead fly in.=C2- I do live close to Broadhead so I might be abl e to get up there Friday or maybe Saturday if the wife will let me out of =C2-any last minute packing. So Here I am almost one year later and ready to get back at it.=C2- My pl an is to actually build (2)=C2-aircampers simultaneously.=C2- One full scale, and one 1/2 scale R/C built identically matched to the full scale sh ip.=C2- I plan to do a independent documentary on the whole process and m aybe publish=C2-a short run of dvd's for anyone interested in the build. =C2-=C2-=C2-I had a few questions I hope you guys might be able to an swer for me. 1). Dose Mike Cuy still sell the DVD's?=C2-I can't find his website anymo re and I would love to get a copy of the DVD before we leave for Italy.=C2 - 14 hr flight= portable DVD player. 2). What "certified" adhesive is recommended for=C2-all of the wood const ruction on the airframe.=C2-=C2- 3). Is there any written info on a website or otherwise that outlines=C2- the inspection and certification process and stages for building a experime ntal aircraft?=C2- This is my first full scale (non R/C) aircraft I'm bui lding and I want to do it right the first time through. 4).=C2-Also dose anyone know of a good source to find Continental A-65 en gines or parts.=C2- I have kept my eye on ebay for the past few months an d not much has popped up there. Thanks in advance and=C2-I hope to meet most of you real soon, Mike Dulia n =C2-=C2-


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    Time: 09:06:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kringle's Curious Question about projects
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    We are in luck! According to the new BPA newsletter (pg. 5), Chapter 1279 is planning to display their completed (not-covered) Air Camper at Brodhead and Oshkosh. I think there was a partially completed Sky Scout there last year... it was very interesting to study. This project ought to be a valuable exhibit for all to study, especially those of us that are still trying to figure out this huge puzzle. -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304628#304628




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