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1. 06:01 AM - Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-In (Don Emch)
2. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-In (Dan Yocum)
3. 09:15 AM - Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Don Emch)
4. 09:23 AM - Re: Piets in Texas (Ken Chambers)
5. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (shad bell)
6. 10:14 AM - Re: New return to the list... finally getting started on my build. (Michael Silvius)
7. 10:23 AM - Re: Piets in Texas (Tim Willis)
8. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Dan Yocum)
9. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Tim Willis)
10. 11:01 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Jack Phillips)
11. 11:09 AM - New guy and wood (bender)
12. 11:25 AM - Re: New guy and wood (Jack Phillips)
13. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Dan Yocum)
14. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (John Hofmann)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Jack Phillips)
16. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Dan Yocum)
17. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Jack Phillips)
18. 12:50 PM - Re: New guy and wood (shad bell)
19. 02:04 PM - Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (kevinpurtee)
20. 02:07 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Jim Boyer)
21. 02:52 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Gary Boothe)
22. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Gary Boothe)
23. 03:24 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (Gary Boothe)
24. 03:41 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Jim Boyer)
25. 03:42 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (kevinpurtee)
26. 03:57 PM - Re: Re: Piets in Texas (Gary Boothe)
27. 04:01 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (kevinpurtee)
28. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: Piets in Texas (Gary Boothe)
29. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: Piets in Texas (Jim Markle)
30. 04:23 PM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Jack)
31. 04:32 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (kevinpurtee)
32. 04:42 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (Phil Hopkins)
33. 04:58 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Gary Boothe)
34. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Jeff Boatright)
35. 06:20 PM - Re: Re: Piets in Texas (John Recine)
36. 06:25 PM - Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (K5YAC)
37. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Piets in Texas (Tim Willis)
38. 06:34 PM - tires and tubes (RBush96589@aol.com)
39. 07:18 PM - Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Don Emch)
40. 07:20 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (K5YAC)
41. 07:22 PM - Piets in Texas (Oscar Zuniga)
42. 07:22 PM - Landing gear height (Oscar Zuniga)
43. 07:22 PM - Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I (Don Emch)
44. 07:23 PM - Re: Piets in Texas (kevinpurtee)
45. 07:42 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Jerry Dotson)
46. 07:44 PM - Re: tires and tubes (ldmill)
47. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: Piets in Texas (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
48. 09:10 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Jim Boyer)
49. 09:37 PM - Re: Landing gear height (Chris)
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-In
Jerry,
That would be left to right, Skip, Frank, Ed, Shad, Mike, Ryan (my son), and Don
(me). Hope to see you at Brodhead.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-In
Don,
Are you flyin' or drivin'?
Dan
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On 07/14/2010 08:00 AM, Don Emch wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch"<EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Jerry,
>
> That would be left to right, Skip, Frank, Ed, Shad, Mike, Ryan (my son), and
Don (me). Hope to see you at Brodhead.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304747#304747
>
>
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Dan,
Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly to Brodhead,
my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car, buckled himself in and
said he was not getting out. He was almost devastated that he couldn't go.
At six years old now, I still don't think he's quite old enough for the very
long ride in the front pit all the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles, I
think). So, since I promised him last year that he could go with me this year,
we are driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They love
to fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me, camping out and
not being able to fly, priceless.
Next year though, I might try a passenger!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
Hello Phil
I'm slowly building a Piet in Austin and saving up for flight instruction.
(Cart before horse, that's my style).
So I'm interested in hearing about your experiences with the FBO in
Georgetown.
Didn't know that Kevin Purtee was in Georgetown now. I've got to get up
there when he's around.
Ken, who just started grinding 4130 for his center section.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>wrote:
> timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>
> Phil,
> Kevin Purtee has his plane based at KGTU, in a hangar near the control
> tower. This is likely NOT a good time for a visit, for he will be leaving
> at the end of the week for WI. His is a good model for you, though, a
> classic and well done.
> I have a project in my garage a couple exits south of the airport exit--
> 4 miles by air, 11 by ground-- off Hwy. 29 west of Georgetown. I'd be happy
> to show it to you.
> There is a completed Piet at the Waco chapter's (EAA 59) hangar, McGregor
> (belonging to Boyce Hardiman). You may whish to check out their Saturday
> breakfasts and either fly up or drive to see it.
> There is also a completed Piet I have never seen, belonging to Kevin
> McDonald, as I recall, at Kittie Hill airport. He has begun flying it again
> after a long lapse, as I understand.
> Pls reply.
> Tim in central TX
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Phil Hopkins <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jul 13, 2010 7:10 PM
> >To: Pietenpol-List@matronics.com
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in Texas
> >
> >
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I'm a long time fan of the Pete. I used to subscribe to the list over a
> >decade ago and dreamed about building one. In the meantime, life
> >intervened. But, this year, when a few Light Sports started showing up
> >at the local FBOs (finally!), I took up training again and decided I
> >would get my certificate this time no matter what (first flew when I was
> >14, so it's been a while coming). I'm about finished (just doing the
> >checkride rehearsals), and it's time to get serious about building my
> >own plane and so I subscribed to the list again and have been trying to
> >recover all my old research.
> >
> >I know there are a number of Petes in TX. One fella I knew was building
> >one near Taylor a decade ago. I was flying a few weeks ago out of KGTU
> >when I saw a brown one over by the pumps. I had my instructor with me,
> >and she was late for her next lesson, or I'd have pulled over and chased
> >the fella down and found out where he lived. I haven't seen him or it
> >before or since.
> >
> >KGTU is my home airport. If there are any Petes in the central TX area,
> >I'd love to hear from you. I know about Oscar, in SA, who is a frequent
> >and helpful contributor to the list. Anyone near Austin or Killeen?
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Ken Chambers
512-796-1798
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Don, I have often dreamed of putting my son up there for some long flights
in the future, but I am going to have to get him some GOOD hearing protecti
on.- After flying up to Barber last week (1:40) my ears were ringing for
a couple hrs.- It's cool to have a "mean" sounding engine, but it has dra
wbacks.- I work around airline pilots and jets all day and that constant
high pitch whine is deafining, (the jets are loud too!).- I had better st
art wearing ear plugs more often.
-
Have fun at Brodhead
-
Shad
-
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| Subject: | Re: New return to the list... finally getting started |
on my build.
Be aware thet the DAP / Weldwood resorcinol is no longer available..
DAP has ceased production of this glue after several states baned the
sale.. :-(
something about VOCs...and saving the planet....bla bla bla
Cascophen is the last available brand of Resorcinol stateside.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/cascophen.php
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
Resorcinol glue is the only "certified" adhesive, i.e. approved by the
FAA for use on certified aircraft. Since you are building an
experimental aircraft you are not limited to just that adhesive.
......Resorcinol or epoxies both work well and strong, beautiful Piets
have been built with both.
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
Phil & Ken,
Pls reply to me offline at the earthlink addy shown, to discuss meeting, membership
in the local EAA chapter (187, Austin) and sharing info. Pls put "Piet"
in your subject line, so I will notice it.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Chambers
Sent: Jul 14, 2010 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets in Texas
Hello Phil
I'm slowly building a Piet in Austin and saving up for flight instruction. (Cart
before horse, that's my style).
So I'm interested in hearing about your experiences with the FBO in Georgetown.
Didn't know that Kevin Purtee was in Georgetown now. I've got to get up there when
he's around.
Ken, who just started grinding 4130 for his center section.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
Phil,
Kevin Purtee has his plane based at KGTU, in a hangar near the control tower.
This is likely NOT a good time for a visit, for he will be leaving at the end
of the week for WI. His is a good model for you, though, a classic and well
done.
I have a project in my garage a couple exits south of the airport exit-- 4 miles
by air, 11 by ground-- off Hwy. 29 west of Georgetown. I'd be happy to show
it to you.
There is a completed Piet at the Waco chapter's (EAA 59) hangar, McGregor (belonging
to Boyce Hardiman). You may whish to check out their Saturday breakfasts
and either fly up or drive to see it.
There is also a completed Piet I have never seen, belonging to Kevin McDonald,
as I recall, at Kittie Hill airport. He has begun flying it again after a long
lapse, as I understand.
Pls reply.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Hopkins <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 13, 2010 7:10 PM
>To: Pietenpol-List@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in Texas
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>I'm a long time fan of the Pete. I used to subscribe to the list over a
>decade ago and dreamed about building one. In the meantime, life
>intervened. But, this year, when a few Light Sports started showing up
>at the local FBOs (finally!), I took up training again and decided I
>would get my certificate this time no matter what (first flew when I was
>14, so it's been a while coming). I'm about finished (just doing the
>checkride rehearsals), and it's time to get serious about building my
>own plane and so I subscribed to the list again and have been trying to
>recover all my old research.
>
>I know there are a number of Petes in TX. One fella I knew was building
>one near Taylor a decade ago. I was flying a few weeks ago out of KGTU
>when I saw a brown one over by the pumps. I had my instructor with me,
>and she was late for her next lesson, or I'd have pulled over and chased
>the fella down and found out where he lived. I haven't seen him or it
>before or since.
>
>KGTU is my home airport. If there are any Petes in the central TX area,
>I'd love to hear from you. I know about Oscar, in SA, who is a frequent
>and helpful contributor to the list. Anyone near Austin or Killeen?
>
>Best,
>
>Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch"<EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Dan,
>
> Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly to Brodhead,
my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car, buckled himself in
and said he was not getting out. He was almost devastated that he couldn't go.
At six years old now, I still don't think he's quite old enough for the very
long ride in the front pit all the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles,
I think). So, since I promised him last year that he could go with me this year,
we are driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They love
to fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
>
> Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me, camping out
and not being able to fly, priceless.
>
> Next year though, I might try a passenger!
Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
area.
I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really looking
forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit in
there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones on.
I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch at
Brodhead... ;-)
Dan
do not archive
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
No members of my family have volunteered in any way to fly in the front pit.
In fact their commitment to aviation involves my "commitment papers".
My wife in the front pit would definitely involve a lot of duct tape, and in
several locations... some to reduce MY need for hearing protection.
I envy you guys. It must be great fun.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2010 1:29 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft
Fly-I
>
>
>
>On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch"<EmchAir@aol.com>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly to Brodhead,
my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car, buckled himself in
and said he was not getting out. He was almost devastated that he couldn't
go. At six years old now, I still don't think he's quite old enough for the very
long ride in the front pit all the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles,
I think). So, since I promised him last year that he could go with me this
year, we are driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They love
to fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
>>
>> Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me, camping out
and not being able to fly, priceless.
>>
>> Next year though, I might try a passenger!
>
>Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
>area.
>
>I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really looking
>forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
>Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit in
>there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
>protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones on.
> I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch at
>Brodhead... ;-)
>
>Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
I'd say y'all are VERY lucky to have kids that are interested in aviation.
I've had one daughter, 3 stepsons and a stepdaughter and none of them have
the slightest interest in flying - even when I've told them I'd give them
flying lessons for free.
Now I'm working on my grandaughter who at age 5 is showing some serious
interest in flying. I've promised to take her up in the Piet when she's 7
(and can see over the cockpit coaming).
At least my wife likes to fly in it. She flew with my on a fairly long
cross-country (5 hours) to Dulles Int'l a couple of years ago:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's
Taylorcraft Fly-I
On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch"<EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Dan,
>
> Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly to
Brodhead, my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car, buckled
himself in and said he was not getting out. He was almost devastated that
he couldn't go. At six years old now, I still don't think he's quite old
enough for the very long ride in the front pit all the way to Brodhead (600
and some odd miles, I think). So, since I promised him last year that he
could go with me this year, we are driving. My three daughters on the other
hand opted out. They love to fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the
rest of us!
>
> Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me, camping
out and not being able to fly, priceless.
>
> Next year though, I might try a passenger!
Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
area.
I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really looking
forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit in
there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones on.
I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch at
Brodhead... ;-)
Dan
do not archive
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | New guy and wood |
Hey, Jeff here in Louisville KY
I've been studying the F&G manuals for years and thinking about a piet.. built
a Ragwing Special biplane 10 years ago.. sold it and have been flying a 120 since
then.. the 120 is for sale and i'm in the mood to build. I know there are
a ton of discussions about wood and weight and strength but.. I've looked at other
planes, flybaby, the Ragwings, Flitzer... etc.. and it sure seems like longerons
would be plenty strong at 1"by 3/4" and 1/4' square ribs are the standard
everywhere.. the built up British spars are sweet.. it sure seems like the
tail heavy issues could disappear with a little lightning.. even the F&G instruction
say its way over built
i really have enjoyed reading the list for the last few months..
i have an extra A engine on a stand.... I'd like to hang it on some sticks
jeff faith
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| Subject: | New guy and wood |
Good to have you on the list, Jeff!
I believe you could easily go down to 7/8" square longerons (in fact I
believe that BHP did this on some of his later models). As for 1" x 3/4",
maybe so, but bear in mind that you've lost a good deal of stiffness, and
you would only save about 46 ounces of weight, and some of that is ahead of
the CG.
Most of the tail heaviness comes not from the plane but from the pilot. In
1929 very few people weighed over 200 lbs. Now sadly that is the norm,
rather than the exception. Hanging a tailwheel on such a long moment
contributes greatly to tail-heaviness also. However, it really isn't a
problem because it is so easy with this design to shift the wing aft a few
inches and put the CG wherever you want..
As for going to 1/4" capstrips on the ribs, something to consider when
comparing these ribs to more modern designs is that the rear spar is much
further forward in the Pietenpol wing than most modern designs. Even with
heavy capstrips this wing is VERY flexible in torsion. Cutting the
capstrips in half will make it even more wimpy.
Just something to consider. As I'm sure you've seen before on this list
"Build it to the Plans, and you'll have a better airplane".
Are you coming to Brodhead next week?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New guy and wood
Hey, Jeff here in Louisville KY
I've been studying the F&G manuals for years and thinking about a piet..
built a Ragwing Special biplane 10 years ago.. sold it and have been flying
a 120 since then.. the 120 is for sale and i'm in the mood to build. I know
there are a ton of discussions about wood and weight and strength but.. I've
looked at other planes, flybaby, the Ragwings, Flitzer... etc.. and it sure
seems like longerons would be plenty strong at 1"by 3/4" and 1/4' square
ribs are the standard everywhere.. the built up British spars are sweet.. it
sure seems like the tail heavy issues could disappear with a little
lightning.. even the F&G instruction say its way over built
i really have enjoyed reading the list for the last few months..
i have an extra A engine on a stand.... I'd like to hang it on some sticks
jeff faith
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304779#304779
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Jack,
Why wait until she's 7? I doubt she'd get freaked out enough to claw at
the stick, throttle, or seat belts. Heck, my 3 year olds know enough
not to touch the throttle, now. I know of one guy that took his 4 year
old up in his L-4 with only a lap belt. He loved it.
If she wants to go, and mom will give the go-ahead, take her up sooner
rather than later.
Dan
do not archive
On 07/14/2010 01:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> I'd say y'all are VERY lucky to have kids that are interested in
> aviation. I've had one daughter, 3 stepsons and a stepdaughter and none
> of them have the slightest interest in flying - even when I've told them
> I'd give them flying lessons for free.
>
> Now I'm working on my grandaughter who at age 5 is showing some serious
> interest in flying. I've promised to take her up in the Piet when she's
> 7 (and can see over the cockpit coaming).
>
> At least my wife likes to fly in it. She flew with my on a fairly long
> cross-country (5 hours) to Dulles Int'l a couple of years ago:
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:29 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last
> Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I
>
>
> On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
>
>
>>
>
>> Dan,
>
>>
>
>> Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly
> to Brodhead, my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car,
> buckled himself in and said he was not getting out. He was almost
> devastated that he couldn't go. At six years old now, I still don't
> think he's quite old enough for the very long ride in the front pit all
> the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles, I think). So, since I
> promised him last year that he could go with me this year, we are
> driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They love to
> fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
>
>>
>
>> Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me,
> camping out and not being able to fly, priceless.
>
>>
>
>> Next year though, I might try a passenger!
>
> Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
>
> area.
>
> I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really looking
>
> forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
>
> Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit in
>
> there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
>
> protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones on.
>
> I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch at
>
> Brodhead... ;-)
>
> Dan
>
> do not archive
>
> --
>
> Dan Yocum
>
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
I am lucky. My kid likes to fly. She has been up with Jack Phillps in
his Piet at Brodhead a couple of years back. She will be 15 next week so
if she wants she can get her chance. The Cub is back in good shape and
we were up a couple of times this week. She likes to take the camera
along so here are a few pictures from Monday night. I am thinking of
painting "IT GIRL OF THE SKIES" next to the front seat. I swear last
year she was just 5. Time files. It is amazing how fast they grow.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
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On Jul 14, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> I'd say y'all are VERY lucky to have kids that are interested in
aviation. I've had one daughter, 3 stepsons and a stepdaughter and none
of them have the slightest interest in flying - even when I've told them
I'd give them flying lessons for free.
>
> Now I'm working on my grandaughter who at age 5 is showing some
serious interest in flying. I've promised to take her up in the Piet
when she's 7 (and can see over the cockpit coaming).
>
> At least my wife likes to fly in it. She flew with my on a fairly
long cross-country (5 hours) to Dulles Int'l a couple of years ago:
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Yocum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:29 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last
Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I
>
>
>
>
> On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch"<EmchAir@aol.com>
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to
fly to Brodhead, my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car,
buckled himself in and said he was not getting out. He was almost
devastated that he couldn't go. At six years old now, I still don't
think he's quite old enough for the very long ride in the front pit all
the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles, I think). So, since I
promised him last year that he could go with me this year, we are
driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They love to
fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
> >
> > Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me,
camping out and not being able to fly, priceless.
> >
> > Next year though, I might try a passenger!
>
> Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
> area.
>
> I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really
looking
> forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
> Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit
in
> there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
> protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones
on.
> I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch
at
> Brodhead... ;-)
>
> Dan
>
> do not archive
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
There you put your finger on it -"...and mom will give the go-ahead". Her
mom is the step-daughter that has no interest in flying.
I'm hoping to get her up in a Cherokee after Brodhead WITH her mom. Then
we'll see about the Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's
Taylorcraft Fly-I
Jack,
Why wait until she's 7? I doubt she'd get freaked out enough to claw at
the stick, throttle, or seat belts. Heck, my 3 year olds know enough
not to touch the throttle, now. I know of one guy that took his 4 year
old up in his L-4 with only a lap belt. He loved it.
If she wants to go, and mom will give the go-ahead, take her up sooner
rather than later.
Dan
do not archive
On 07/14/2010 01:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> I'd say y'all are VERY lucky to have kids that are interested in
> aviation. I've had one daughter, 3 stepsons and a stepdaughter and none
> of them have the slightest interest in flying - even when I've told them
> I'd give them flying lessons for free.
>
> Now I'm working on my grandaughter who at age 5 is showing some serious
> interest in flying. I've promised to take her up in the Piet when she's
> 7 (and can see over the cockpit coaming).
>
> At least my wife likes to fly in it. She flew with my on a fairly long
> cross-country (5 hours) to Dulles Int'l a couple of years ago:
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:29 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last
> Saturday's Taylorcraft Fly-I
>
>
> On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
>
>
>>
>
>> Dan,
>
>>
>
>> Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly
> to Brodhead, my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car,
> buckled himself in and said he was not getting out. He was almost
> devastated that he couldn't go. At six years old now, I still don't
> think he's quite old enough for the very long ride in the front pit all
> the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles, I think). So, since I
> promised him last year that he could go with me this year, we are
> driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They love to
> fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
>
>>
>
>> Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me,
> camping out and not being able to fly, priceless.
>
>>
>
>> Next year though, I might try a passenger!
>
> Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
>
> area.
>
> I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really looking
>
> forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
>
> Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit in
>
> there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
>
> protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones on.
>
> I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch at
>
> Brodhead... ;-)
>
> Dan
>
> do not archive
>
> --
>
> Dan Yocum
>
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Tim,
I have the solution to your problem. Take your wife to a fly-in with
Kevin or another Piet owner and have them give her a nice ride. It'll
do wonders to her attitude on the airplane. It worked great on my wife.
Dan
do not archive
On 07/14/2010 12:50 PM, Tim Willis wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim Willis<timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>
> No members of my family have volunteered in any way to fly in the front pit.
In fact their commitment to aviation involves my "commitment papers".
> My wife in the front pit would definitely involve a lot of duct tape, and
in several locations... some to reduce MY need for hearing protection.
> I envy you guys. It must be great fun.
> Tim in central TX
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>> Sent: Jul 14, 2010 1:29 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's
Taylorcraft Fly-I
>>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/14/2010 11:14 AM, Don Emch wrote:
>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch"<EmchAir@aol.com>
>>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> Last year when I was packing up the car to drive to the airport to fly to Brodhead,
my son, Ryan, then 5 years old, went out to the car, buckled himself
in and said he was not getting out. He was almost devastated that he couldn't
go. At six years old now, I still don't think he's quite old enough for the
very long ride in the front pit all the way to Brodhead (600 and some odd miles,
I think). So, since I promised him last year that he could go with me this
year, we are driving. My three daughters on the other hand opted out. They
love to fly in it, but they aren't fanatics like the rest of us!
>>>
>>> Flying to Brodhead is great, taking any of my kids along with me, camping out
and not being able to fly, priceless.
>>>
>>> Next year though, I might try a passenger!
>>
>> Sounds like you need a New Standard D-25. Or just move closer to the
>> area.
>>
>> I get the whole deal about bringing the kids along - I'm really looking
>> forward to the day I'll be able to take the girls in the front 'pit.
>> Mom says a 3 year old isn't ready, yet. I say the car seat would fit in
>> there and they can't get out of that. But, Shad is right, proper ear
>> protection will be necessary... maybe I can duct tape the headphones on.
>> I've used tape on them before: ask me about scotch tape and scotch at
>> Brodhead... ;-)
>>
>> Dan
>> <clip>
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Good to see that, John. Rachel looks like a young woman now, not the kid I
took up 2 years ago. I'll never forget the grin she had then.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's
Taylorcraft Fly-I
I am lucky. My kid likes to fly. She has been up with Jack Phillps in his
Piet at Brodhead a couple of years back. She will be 15 next week so if she
wants she can get her chance. The Cub is back in good shape and we were up a
couple of times this week. She likes to take the camera along so here are a
few pictures from Monday night. I am thinking of painting "IT GIRL OF THE
SKIES" next to the front seat. I swear last year she was just 5. Time files.
It is amazing how fast they grow.
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| Subject: | New guy and wood |
If only we homebuilders worried more about our own weight, we would not hav
e to come up with as many "ingenious" ways to save ounces here and there on
our airplanes.- I am guilty as the next, and probably need to loose 15 l
bs to even fit in my Jungster.-
-
Shad
-
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Man, what a great group of photos and a bunch of neat posts! I'm personally fortunate
in that The Girl (now actually, "The Wife") is an enthusiastic participant.
My 12 year old step-son could not care less. Oddly, the ex-husband/father-of-my-step-son
loves the plane and we have lots of fun messing with it. He's
flown with me quite a bit.
Don - Completely understand about kids and driving. However, I was SOOOO looking
forward to photographing the planes together. All good, though. We'll do
it next year. I'm officially requesting a photo of you and me in front of mine
for this year, at least.
Tim - I would be honored to take Mrs. Willis flying.
Brodhead: I haven't been this excited about anything since I was 8 years old waiting
for Xmas.
do not archive
--------
Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304797#304797
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear height |
Gary would you measure your Piet height to the top of the longeron in Pilots cockpit
with the tail blocked up so longerons are level?
The 51 inch measurement everyone is mentioning doesn't relate to mine at all. Sitting
in the three point position, the top of longeron at front of the front
cockpit is only 49 inches and the top of rear longeron at the back of the rear
cockpit is only 41 inches high.
thanks Gary,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:05:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Jerry,
I'll measure tomorrow, but my method (also with 21" Harley Sportster wheels)
was to set the upper longeron angle at 13 deg, and establish the length of
the landing gear struts from there (tailwheel needs to be installed). I did
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| Subject: | Landing gear height |
Sure. I=99ll measure it tonight, but I checked it the other day
and it looks closer to 54=9D!! I=99m thinking I need nose
art, picturing a scantily clad beauty with long legs. The would be
=9CTall Girl.=9D
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Gary would you measure your Piet height to the top of the longeron in
Pilots cockpit with the tail blocked up so longerons are level?
The 51 inch measurement everyone is mentioning doesn't relate to mine at
all. Sitting in the three point position, the top of longeron at front
of the front cockpit is only 49 inches and the top of rear longeron at
the back of the rear cockpit is only 41 inches high.
thanks Gary,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:05:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Jerry,
I'll measure tomorrow, but my method (also with 21" Harley Sportster
wheels)
was to set the upper longeron angle at 13 deg, and establish the length
of
the landing gear struts from there (tailwheel needs to be installed). I
did
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Nope ..way too pretty to be related to you.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's
Taylorcraft Fly-I
I am lucky. My kid likes to fly. She has been up with Jack Phillps in his
Piet at Brodhead a couple of years back. She will be 15 next week so if she
wants she can get her chance. The Cub is back in good shape and we were up a
couple of times this week. She likes to take the camera along so here are a
few pictures from Monday night. I am thinking of painting "IT GIRL OF THE
SKIES" next to the front seat. I swear last year she was just 5. Time files.
It is amazing how fast they grow.
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Phil, Ken, Kevin,
Sounds like all you guys are close enough to hit with a scud! Looks like
I'll be traveling, for work, to the Austin area sometime in August. In the
true fashion of Jim Markle, I would love to meet with you guys.maybe all in
one place?
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets in Texas
Hello Phil
I'm slowly building a Piet in Austin and saving up for flight instruction.
(Cart before horse, that's my style).
So I'm interested in hearing about your experiences with the FBO in
Georgetown.
Didn't know that Kevin Purtee was in Georgetown now. I've got to get up
there when he's around.
Ken, who just started grinding 4130 for his center section.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
wrote:
<timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Phil,
Kevin Purtee has his plane based at KGTU, in a hangar near the control
tower. This is likely NOT a good time for a visit, for he will be leaving
at the end of the week for WI. His is a good model for you, though, a
classic and well done.
I have a project in my garage a couple exits south of the airport exit-- 4
miles by air, 11 by ground-- off Hwy. 29 west of Georgetown. I'd be happy
to show it to you.
There is a completed Piet at the Waco chapter's (EAA 59) hangar, McGregor
(belonging to Boyce Hardiman). You may whish to check out their Saturday
breakfasts and either fly up or drive to see it.
There is also a completed Piet I have never seen, belonging to Kevin
McDonald, as I recall, at Kittie Hill airport. He has begun flying it again
after a long lapse, as I understand.
Pls reply.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Hopkins <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 13, 2010 7:10 PM
>To: Pietenpol-List@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in Texas
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>I'm a long time fan of the Pete. I used to subscribe to the list over a
>decade ago and dreamed about building one. In the meantime, life
>intervened. But, this year, when a few Light Sports started showing up
>at the local FBOs (finally!), I took up training again and decided I
>would get my certificate this time no matter what (first flew when I was
>14, so it's been a while coming). I'm about finished (just doing the
>checkride rehearsals), and it's time to get serious about building my
>own plane and so I subscribed to the list again and have been trying to
>recover all my old research.
>
>I know there are a number of Petes in TX. One fella I knew was building
>one near Taylor a decade ago. I was flying a few weeks ago out of KGTU
>when I saw a brown one over by the pumps. I had my instructor with me,
>and she was late for her next lesson, or I'd have pulled over and chased
>the fella down and found out where he lived. I haven't seen him or it
>before or since.
>
>KGTU is my home airport. If there are any Petes in the central TX area,
>I'd love to hear from you. I know about Oscar, in SA, who is a frequent
>and helpful contributor to the list. Anyone near Austin or Killeen?
>
>Best,
>
>Phil
>
>
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or you could call her nose art "Legs".
I am going to measure again tonight but mine is short at just under 49 inch
es to top of longeron when level.
Jim
PS and I still need a step to get in.
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From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:52:20 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Sure. I=99ll measure it tonight, but I checked it the other day and i
t looks closer to 54=9D!! I=99m thinking I need nose art, pictu
ring a scantily clad beauty with long legs. The would be =9CTall Girl
.=9D
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Gary would you measure your Piet height to the top of the longeron in Pilot
s cockpit with the tail blocked up so longerons are level?
The 51 inch measurement everyone is mentioning doesn't relate to mine at al
l. Sitting in the three point position, the top of longeron at front of the
front cockpit is only 49 inches and the top of rear longeron at the back o
f the rear cockpit is only 41 inches high.
thanks Gary,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:05:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Jerry,
I'll measure tomorrow, but my method (also with 21" Harley Sportster wheels
)
was to set the upper longeron angle at 13 deg, and establish the length of
the landing gear struts from there (tailwheel needs to be installed). I did
=C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://foru
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Gary - I'm here for you, man. Should be in town for all of August except for the
28th. Tim Willis' project is ~15 minutes from my plane. Not sure where Ken's
project is but I'm sure we can figure it out. Phil doesn't have a project
yet so he's mobile. Post the dates and we'll make it happen.
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Thanks, Kevin. I'll nail down the dates. You will recognize me as I'll be
wearing a long trench coat...a trick I learned from The Master. You can fit
all sorts of cool stuff in there; impact wrenches, loose bungee material,
turnbuckles...
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Gary - I'm here for you, man. Should be in town for all of August except
for the 28th. Tim Willis' project is ~15 minutes from my plane. Not sure
where Ken's project is but I'm sure we can figure it out. Phil doesn't have
a project yet so he's mobile. Post the dates and we'll make it happen.
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Tim doesn't mind...
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
I'll be thinking of you next week! Unfortunately, I have a family reunion
followed by 4 days in Dallas, and will miss Brodhead altogether; but will be
looking forward to hear about your trip...
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Tim doesn't mind...
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And air compressors......and routers....
:-)
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2010 3:56 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
>
>
>Thanks, Kevin. I'll nail down the dates. You will recognize me as I'll be
>wearing a long trench coat...a trick I learned from The Master. You can fit
>all sorts of cool stuff in there; impact wrenches, loose bungee material,
>turnbuckles...
>
>Gary Boothe
>Cool, CA
>Pietenpol
>WW Corvair Conversion
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>20 ribs done
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
>Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:42 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
>
><kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
>Gary - I'm here for you, man. Should be in town for all of August except
>for the 28th. Tim Willis' project is ~15 minutes from my plane. Not sure
>where Ken's project is but I'm sure we can figure it out. Phil doesn't have
>a project yet so he's mobile. Post the dates and we'll make it happen.
>
>--------
>Kevin Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's Taylorcraft |
Fly-I
Holy cow John, she has eyelashes, hang on man! Look forward to seeing you
next week!
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Six Pietenpols show up at last Saturday's
Taylorcraft Fly-I
I am lucky. My kid likes to fly. She has been up with Jack Phillps in his
Piet at Brodhead a couple of years back. She will be 15 next week so if she
wants she can get her chance. The Cub is back in good shape and we were up a
couple of times this week. She likes to take the camera along so here are a
few pictures from Monday night. I am thinking of painting "IT GIRL OF THE
SKIES" next to the front seat. I swear last year she was just 5. Time files.
It is amazing how fast they grow.
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I'll obviously need to search you people after you've been in my hangar!
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
I need to figure out how to take this thing off digest so I can reply
better.
Less, I can't make Brodhead this year. Too many commitments this
summer, and I just got back from family vacation. I really would like
to go! I've watched videos and thought about it lots. It looks like
I'll have to start planning the trip for next summer now.
|If not we'll just sit around consuming adult beverages, tellin
lies, scratchin, lookin at Piets, hoppin rides and
|trash talkin bot ya in your absence.*
*Sorry to put you to those extremes, but, somehow, I suspect that much
of this behavior, except for perhaps the last part, might have just gone
on anyway!
Tim, I'd love to come see your project sometime! I work in Georgetown.
I got in touch with Kevin already. Might be able to see his Saturday
before he leaves, but if not, when he gets back. What an adventure he's
heading out on! All the way from here to Brodhead! I wonder if Kevin's
Pete is the one I looked at a looooonnnngggg time ago out at Kittie
Hill. It was about a decade ago, at least. I don't remember if he was
selling it, but I think the one I saw out there was sort of for sale.
Wrong time for me, but I sure thought hard about that at the time! I
know Kenny Grisham, a bit, up at McGregor. I've been thinking about
doing tailwheel training with him. Looks like a trip up there is the
thing to do now for sure. What a wealth of Piets in the area! I'll
send you a message privately as well.
Ken, I'd be happy to share my experiences here. Matt, who wrote me
after I posted, also on the list, is in Austin too, and flies out of
HYI, and might be a good person to check with on training as well.
Gary, I'd be pleased to arrange a meet up when you're in the area in
August. Sounds like there's lots of support and resources close to hand.
Thanks all.
Phil
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| Subject: | Landing gear height |
OK, Jimlifted the tail and the measurement is 53
=C2=BD=9D! I got there by starting with a 13deg deck angle.
Don=99t blame meChris Tracy told me to do it
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Gary would you measure your Piet height to the top of the longeron in
Pilots cockpit with the tail blocked up so longerons are level?
The 51 inch measurement everyone is mentioning doesn't relate to mine at
all. Sitting in the three point position, the top of longeron at front
of the front cockpit is only 49 inches and the top of rear longeron at
the back of the rear cockpit is only 41 inches high.
thanks Gary,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:05:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Jerry,
I'll measure tomorrow, but my method (also with 21" Harley Sportster
wheels)
was to set the upper longeron angle at 13 deg, and establish the length
of
the landing gear struts from there (tailwheel needs to be installed). I
did
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Fly-I
John,
The shot of the confident, frank look on her face in the foreground
with Dad's cautious, protective look on his face in the back ground,
in the Cub, with the light from the setting sun illuminating both
faces, is surely an EAA award-winner.
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
Kevin
I guess no one told you its a ritual of passage and great honor. That upon visitation
by another Piet builders it is customary and in good form for the visitor
to leave with some tools belonging to the host. This is done in celebration
of the new builders work being of a quality and appearance of the highest standard
that the builder and his handy work are awarded the high honor of the tool.
The degree of workmanship is awarded by the size type or value of the tool taken.
Great work equals great tool and great honor bestowed. Small tool little honor
not to be confused by drill bits which are to be left and openly available
like mints at a restaurant. Drill bits really have no award value and are taken
to show the spirit of builderly love is all.
Typically these rules are never published or spoken they just are practiced and
respected.
Through dispensation and special permission by Dan keeper of the papers protected
by the ritual of saint pitheious e cranibus who has said a believer and follower
is identified by the gear that appear to adorn the dome of the faithful.
Be that as it may these instructions of the tool shall not be uttered among those
found unworthy and as such
Do not archive
Respectfully submitted
Less Yawanna
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From: kevinpurtee
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
Sent: Jul 14, 2010 7:31 PM
I'll obviously need to search you people after you've been in my hangar!
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Fly-I
Hey Don... Tyler (my son) sure does remember you, and the ride you gave him last
year. He and Ryan ought to keep each other entertained. It will be great for
him to have someone his age to pal around with this year.
Looking forward to seeing all of you next week!
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Wow, I was out this afternoon, and did I miss a lot-- the agenda, the brotherhood,
the secret handshake, and especially the sticky fingers.
Oscar never told me about any of this.
Tim in central TX
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>From: John Recine <amsafetyc@aol.com>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2010 8:18 PM
>To: Pietenpol builders Board <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
>
>
>Kevin
>
>I guess no one told you its a ritual of passage and great honor. That upon visitation
by another Piet builders it is customary and in good form for the visitor
to leave with some tools belonging to the host. This is done in celebration
of the new builders work being of a quality and appearance of the highest standard
that the builder and his handy work are awarded the high honor of the
tool.
>
>The degree of workmanship is awarded by the size type or value of the tool taken.
Great work equals great tool and great honor bestowed. Small tool little honor
not to be confused by drill bits which are to be left and openly available
like mints at a restaurant. Drill bits really have no award value and are taken
to show the spirit of builderly love is all.
>
>Typically these rules are never published or spoken they just are practiced and
respected.
>
>Through dispensation and special permission by Dan keeper of the papers protected
by the ritual of saint pitheious e cranibus who has said a believer and follower
is identified by the gear that appear to adorn the dome of the faithful.
>
>Be that as it may these instructions of the tool shall not be uttered among those
found unworthy and as such
>Do not archive
>
>Respectfully submitted
>
>Less Yawanna
>------Original Message------
>From: kevinpurtee
>Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>To: Pietenpol builders Board
>ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
>Sent: Jul 14, 2010 7:31 PM
>
>
>I'll obviously need to search you people after you've been in my hangar!
>
>do not archive
>
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>Kevin Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
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hello all,
I am in the process of changing out my 5.00--5 tires to 6.00-6 I ordered
the new tires and tubes from spruce and got them today.
the problem is the wheels I have need to have a 90 degree valve stem and
the tubes they sent are straight stems.I was wondering if I could get by
using the tubes out of my 5 inch tires if I can get them on the wheel.
I wanted to get this done before the trip to brodhead with Jack. and if I
have to wait to get the right ones ordered I might not have time to do it.or
does any body know if there is a substitute tube that can be gotten
locally
Thanks,
Randy Bush
NX294RB
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Fly-I
Mark,
Ryan will love it!
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
dfwplt wrote:
> And air compressors......and routers....
>
> :-)
>
>
> --
Yeah, you have accumulated a bunch of routers, but I've been keeping my eyes peeled
for that CA air compressor.
The great thing about going to Jim's place is... he don't make ya conceal nothing.
Just walk right out the front door with it. Hard drives, DVDs, routers.
I promise... I'll bring it back soon.
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There may be an opportunity here for anyone down this way
to see a few Piets. I'm talking about "Reklaw"... the fly-in
at Flying M Ranch, Oct. 22-24, out in east Texas between Tyler
and Nacogdoches:
http://www.reklawflyin.com/
We do things funny-like in Texas, so "Reklaw" is "Walker"
spelled backwards. Don't ask me why. I'm thinking of flying
41CC out there this year, and it's within striking distance of
a half-dozen other Piets and GN-1s in the TX-OK-LA area.
Grass strip, down-home atmosphere, who could ask for more?
There are two Piets down by Rockport/Corpus Christi, a couple more
here in central Texas, and a couple more in NE Texas or its suburbs
(Oklahoma ;o)- it might make a nice assembly of Air Campers.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | Landing gear height |
Jerry wrote-
>Thanks all for the replies. I will make it 51".
>Guess I will make a handicap stool so I can get in!
Jerry, please note the previous replies. That height to
the top of the top longeron is with the fuselage LEVEL,
in the cruise flight position. When the airplane is on
the ground in the 3-point attitude, the cockpit is MUCH
lower than this and it is very easy to step right into the
cockpit if you have a fuselage step and grab handles, or
a routine where you grab the cabanes to lift yourself in.
There is absolutely no need for stools, steps, or other
assistance to get into the cockpit when the airplane is
sitting on the ground. I am 5'-9", don't have long legs,
and have no problem stepping up into the cockpit with the
little side peg that Corky built into the side of the
cockpit on 41CC down at the lower longeron, but it can also
be done without that.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
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Fly-I
Kevin,
I'm looking forward to meeting you and your airplane!
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Texas |
hmmm...perhaps I can go through the rites of passage and be be blessed with the
honors of the brotherhood with TIM'S tools...
That was really funny, John. I'm not smart enough to do it justice with an equally
clever reply. Really liked the "bits as mints" part:).
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear height |
Thanks Oscar. That is what I needed to know. I blocked my fuselage up with the
tailwheel on the floor and I could get in with help from cabanes or the wing cutout
handle.(have not actually climbed in as my wing is still on the workbench)
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: tires and tubes |
Randy,
I went through the exact same thing about a month ago with my newly purchased
GN-1. After a week of research, the only tube under $100 that I could find was
from Wicks: TUBE 15-600X6 90 VLV Part Number: TB100-7090 (6" WHEEL) (TB100-7090)
Retail Price: $8.11
It's not a 6 ply tube, but a 4 ply. Everybody I talked to said this is just fine
for our application. I got a dissertation from the local EAA chapter president
on tube technology - and how aircraft certified tubes haven't really kept
up with the current technology due to cost of recertification (they still leak
due to older compounds). The above tube from Wicks is actually for a lawn tractor.
I was skeptical about it, till I realized that it is what was on before
(that I accidentally cut to pieces while changing the tire). No problems on the
previous one that was multiple years old -and I've got a solid month of beginners
landings on the new one with no problem.
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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Kevin, Call me at 580-484-1024
Steve Dortch
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Texas
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Wow, yours is 3 3/8" inches highes than mine. Due to your big wheels and my
small 6x6:00 probably. I'll have to figure out the deck angle now and hope
its not too flat. Might have to make a really skid like tailwheel or do ju
st wheel landings; which I like anyway.
Jim
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From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:56:23 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
OK, Jimlifted the tail and the measurement is 53 =C2=BD=9D!
=C2- I got there by starting with a 13deg deck angle. Don=99t blame
meChris Tracy told me to do it
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Gary would you measure your Piet height to the top of the longeron in Pilot
s cockpit with the tail blocked up so longerons are level?
The 51 inch measurement everyone is mentioning doesn't relate to mine at al
l. Sitting in the three point position, the top of longeron at front of the
front cockpit is only 49 inches and the top of rear longeron at the back o
f the rear cockpit is only 41 inches high.
thanks Gary,
Jim
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From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:05:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Jerry,
I'll measure tomorrow, but my method (also with 21" Harley Sportster wheels
)
was to set the upper longeron angle at 13 deg, and establish the length of
the landing gear struts from there (tailwheel needs to be installed). I did
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What? How did I get dragged into this? Anyway seeing as I am wasting
time on
the computer and not building, I guess I should chime in here. The
attached
word document is how I came up with the deck angle of 13 degrees.
My deck angle turned out to be 12 (with the anticipated sag of the
bungee
cords). Also, my plane sits very high with the tall wheels.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Boothe
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
OK, Jim=85lifted the tail and the measurement is 53 =BD=94! I got there
by
starting with a 13deg deck angle. Don=92t blame me=85Chris Tracy told me
to do
it=85
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Gary would you measure your Piet height to the top of the longeron in
Pilots
cockpit with the tail blocked up so longerons are level?
The 51 inch measurement everyone is mentioning doesn't relate to mine at
all. Sitting in the three point position, the top of longeron at front
of
the front cockpit is only 49 inches and the top of rear longeron at the
back
of the rear cockpit is only 41 inches high.
thanks Gary,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:05:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear height
Jerry,
I'll measure tomorrow, but my method (also with 21" Harley Sportster
wheels)
was to set the upper longeron angle at 13 deg, and establish the length
of
the landing gear struts from there (tailwheel needs to be installed). I
did
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