---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/20/10: 46 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:40 AM - Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 04:04 AM - Pima Museum (Not Piet Related) (Jack) 3. 04:13 AM - Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Dan Yocum) 4. 04:33 AM - Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Greg Cardinal) 5. 04:36 AM - Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead (Kringle) 6. 04:39 AM - Pietenpol Weight and Balance @ Brodhead (Ryan Mueller) 7. 04:51 AM - Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead (Dan Yocum) 8. 05:14 AM - engine run-on (Oscar Zuniga) 9. 05:21 AM - Making a trial rib (Oscar Zuniga) 10. 05:36 AM - Corvair closed case for sale (Skip Gadd) 11. 05:44 AM - Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead (Roman Bukolt) 12. 06:52 AM - Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead (Kringle) 13. 07:56 AM - carb rebuilder? (Douwe Blumberg) 14. 08:04 AM - Re: carb rebuilder? (Ryan Mueller) 15. 08:14 AM - Re: carb rebuilder? (Dan Yocum) 16. 10:51 AM - Big Piet meets little Piet (Oscar Zuniga) 17. 10:59 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis) 18. 11:20 AM - Re: Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead (Roman Bukolt) 19. 11:23 AM - Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Roman Bukolt) 20. 11:47 AM - Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Dan Yocum) 21. 12:01 PM - Re: Making a trial rib (PatrickW) 22. 12:27 PM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Rick Holland) 23. 12:29 PM - Pietenpol Metal Brackets & Fittings (tkreiner) 24. 01:03 PM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Dan P) 25. 01:47 PM - Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info (Ryan Mueller) 26. 02:14 PM - Metallurgists opinions please (Michael Perez) 27. 02:30 PM - IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan P) 28. 02:46 PM - Re: carb rebuilder? (Barry Davis) 29. 03:32 PM - Re: carb rebuilder? (Gene Rambo) 30. 04:05 PM - Re: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info (Greg Cardinal) 31. 04:08 PM - Re: Metallurgists opinions please (Tim Willis) 32. 04:12 PM - Re: Pietenpol Metal Brackets & Fittings (Tim Willis) 33. 04:43 PM - Re: Dogs at Brodhead (Billy McCaskill) 34. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: Dogs at Brodhead (Jeff Boatright) 35. 05:16 PM - Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Pieti Lowell) 36. 05:56 PM - Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan P) 37. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright) 38. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Gene & Tammy) 39. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Gene & Tammy) 40. 07:38 PM - Re: Broadhead 2010 (coxwelljon) 41. 08:15 PM - Heading to Brodhead (Ben Charvet) 42. 08:21 PM - Re: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info (Dick N) 43. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Roman Bukolt) 44. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: Dogs at Brodhead (Roman Bukolt) 45. 08:41 PM - Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan P) 46. 09:10 PM - Re: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info (Ryan Mueller) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead From: helspersew@aol.com Wednesday Mostly cloudy HI 86=C2=B0 LO 72=C2=B0 Partly sunny, warm, moderately humid. Best chance of storms shifts downsta te. Southwest winds 5 to 14 mph possible turning southeast at the beaches in the afternoon and lowering shore readings a few degrees. Thursday Mostly cloudy HI 93=C2=B0 LO 77=C2=B0 Cloudy periods, quite humid. Clusters of downpour and gusty storms affecti ng up to 70 percent of the area. Storms may scatter turning partly sunny, breezy, hot and humid beyond mid-afternoon. Friday Partly cloudy HI 97=C2=B0 LO 72=C2=B0 Sun and cottony clouds, fairly windy, hot and humid. 2010's highest readin gs to date possible. Strong storms and gusty winds threaten afternoon and evening. Storms may affect 60 percent or more of the area. Saturday Mostly clear HI 90=C2=B0 LO 68=C2=B0 Mostly sunny and quite warm but with noticeably reduced humidities. Scatte red thunderstorms may develop in far south su ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:35 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pima Museum (Not Piet Related) Very interesting article in recent addition of Barnstormers! Worth a look. http://www.barnstormers.com/eFLYER/2010/127-eFLYER-FA01-PIMA.html Pima Museum http://www.pimaair.org/index.php Jack DSM Brodhead bound-37' green and white Itasca Sunflyer ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:16 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure? Oscar and others with A65 or A75s, Sorry to belabor the issue - what's your idle oil pressure after you've been flying for 30 or more minutes? That's when mine is 15psi. I know 10psi is acceptable, but Don and others have said that theirs remains at 35-40. After this, I'll put this issue to bed and enjoy flying it. :-) Again thanks to all you guys who have put some time and energy into this thought process - you truly are a great bunch of people! I am humbled and honored. Dan On 07/19/2010 09:56 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: >> Initial cold oil pressure was 45-50 and only fell to about 42 >> when the temp climbed to 175F. At idle it was 15. > > My oil pressure is well up into the green, even at idle, up in > the 40s. In flight, it's right where yours is. And my oil temp > doesn't get to 180F till I've been in the air cruising or climbing > for maybe 10-15 minutes or more. I think you're there. -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:47 AM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure? The oil pressure on NX18235 stays around 30 - 40 psi even when warm. However, the oil temp never goes above 150 - 160 F. Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure? > > Oscar and others with A65 or A75s, > > Sorry to belabor the issue - what's your idle oil pressure after you've > been flying for 30 or more minutes? That's when mine is 15psi. I know > 10psi is acceptable, but Don and others have said that theirs remains at > 35-40. > > After this, I'll put this issue to bed and enjoy flying it. :-) > > Again thanks to all you guys who have put some time and energy into this > thought process - you truly are a great bunch of people! I am humbled and > honored. > > Dan > > > On 07/19/2010 09:56 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > >>> Initial cold oil pressure was 45-50 and only fell to about 42 >>> when the temp climbed to 175F. At idle it was 15. >> >> My oil pressure is well up into the green, even at idle, up in >> the 40s. In flight, it's right where yours is. And my oil temp >> doesn't get to 180F till I've been in the air cruising or climbing >> for maybe 10-15 minutes or more. I think you're there. > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead From: "Kringle" Weather.com shows a much more favorable forecast. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305563#305563 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Weight and Balance @ Brodhead From: Ryan Mueller Just a heads up for those of us bringing Piets to Brodhead. William Wynne posted this to the Corvaircraft list last night: --------------------------------- Friends, It is 1 am and I am taking a break from packing the truck and trailer for Brodhead and Oshkosh. I am planning on leaving at 3 PM Wednesday and being at Brodhead very late on Thursday. I am bringing a very expensive set of electronic scales, and I would like to see how many Piets we can gather W&B info on. If any one heading there would like to help, especially with a spreadsheet on a laptop, find me on Friday morning. I have wanted to do this project for a while, and Get the newsletter to print the data. --------------------------------- We're bringing an iPad/laptop/MiFi and can handle the data collection. If the weather holds between TN and Brodhead we will even have a Piet to weigh. :P If you are flying your Piet to Brodhead please consider coming over and having it weighed, as the data will ultimately be contributed to the BPA newsletter. I don't know where it will be happening...we'll find out when we get there. Safe travels everyone! Ryan ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:53 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead Ah, well, there ya go then. With all that asphalt and concrete, Chicago creates it's own weather and the on-shore flow of cooler air seals in the hot air so the city gets even hotter. Madison and Rockford are showing the same chance of precip, but temps 10-15 degrees cooler (thank goodness!) However, I'm not diggin' the 15mph crosswind (150) on Thursday. Dan On 07/20/2010 05:39 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > > Wednesday > Mostly cloudy > HI > 86 > LO > 72 > Partly sunny, warm, moderately humid. Best chance of storms shifts > downstate. Southwest winds 5 to 14 mph possible turning southeast at the > beaches in the afternoon and lowering shore readings a few degrees. > # > Thursday > Mostly cloudy > HI > 93 > LO > 77 > Cloudy periods, quite humid. Clusters of downpour and gusty storms > affecting up to 70 percent of the area. Storms may scatter turning > partly sunny, breezy, hot and humid beyond mid-afternoon. > # > Friday > Partly cloudy > HI > 97 > LO > 72 > Sun and cottony clouds, fairly windy, hot and humid. 2010's highest > readings to date possible. Strong storms and gusty winds threaten > afternoon and evening. Storms may affect 60 percent or more of the area. > # > Saturday > Mostly clear > HI > 90 > LO > 68 > Mostly sunny and quite warm but with noticeably reduced humidities. > Scattered thunderstorms may develop in far south su > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:23 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: engine run-on Lorin: I asked my Continental engine guru about your engine run-on situation. His reply: >Definitely a mag switch, broken/disconnected P lead, >or bad ground issue. It isn't dieseling, it's running. >Until it is absolutely positively fixed, that's a >live prop and should be treated as such. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:55 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making a trial rib I'm surprised nobody mentioned the best reason to make one or two spare wing ribs when you're assembling them: if you ever ding a wingtip or part of a wing and need to replace a rib, you'll have a pattern that will match your other ribs perfectly instead of having to make something that is only "close" and not match the others. Of course, you could also keep your rib jig and have the same effect, but a rib jig doesn't have quite the same charm as a rib, hanging on your wall. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:06 AM PST US From: "Skip Gadd" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair closed case for sale I got a good deal on an A-65 and am selling my Corvair, will have it at Brodhead and OSH. In 2001 I bought a "closed case" from Wm Wynne. He cleaned the case, magna-fluxed the crank( this was before the nitrite thing came up) bolted the case together with OT-10 cam, also the safety shaft and studs, good heads and donor parts to trade to Clarks. I also have the black prop flange and cast alum "Air Camper" valve covers. Also a 2002 Wm Wynne manual and VCR tape, and a box of catalogs and Corvair info. I have something over $1200. in this stuff and will sell it all for $800. cash. See you at Brodhead. Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:27 AM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead FYI Madison Ch 27 Weather Brodhead weather (38 mi. south of Madison) on Wednesday : winds 19 - 10 SW temp below 80 sunny all morning On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:39 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > > Wednesday > Mostly cloudy > HI > 86=B0 > LO > 72=B0 > Partly sunny, warm, moderately humid. Best chance of storms shifts > downstate. Southwest winds 5 to 14 mph possible turning southeast at > the beaches in the afternoon and lowering shore readings a few > degrees. > Thursday > Mostly cloudy > HI > 93=B0 > LO > 77=B0 > Cloudy periods, quite humid. Clusters of downpour and gusty storms > affecting up to 70 percent of the area. Storms may scatter turning > partly sunny, breezy, hot and humid beyond mid-afternoon. > Friday > Partly cloudy > HI > 97=B0 > LO > 72=B0 > Sun and cottony clouds, fairly windy, hot and humid. 2010's highest > readings to date possible. Strong storms and gusty winds threaten > afternoon and evening. Storms may affect 60 percent or more of the > area. > Saturday > Mostly clear > HI > 90=B0 > LO > 68=B0 > Mostly sunny and quite warm but with noticeably reduced humidities. > Scattered thunderstorms may develop in far south su > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead From: "Kringle" I don't believe these guest who are posting this hot forecast. Check Madison channel 27 forecast for yourself! http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/category.asp?C=123751 -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305585#305585 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:25 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? Hey, I'm looking for a good shop to rebuild my Marvel carb from the 0200. Any suggestions? Contact info would be appreciated too. Thanks, Douwe ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? From: Ryan Mueller Russ Romey at D&G Supply in Niles, MI does good work for the Corvaircraft community overhauling Marvels and Strombergs. We were pleased with our dealings with them: http://www.dgsupply.com/ D&G Supply P.O. Box 430 1916 Industrial Drive Niles, Michigan 49120 800-446-8160 269-684-4440 (fax)269-684-8375 e-mail: russ@dgsupply.com On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > douweblumberg@earthlink.net> > > Hey, > > I'm looking for a good shop to rebuild my Marvel carb from the 0200. Any > suggestions? Contact info would be appreciated too. > > Thanks, > > Douwe > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:09 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? Douwe, A.E.R.O In Stock probably has a rebuilt Marvel on the shelf - they do accept core exchanges. You could even pick it up on your way through to Brodhead at their West Chicago location. Dan On 07/20/2010 09:59 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" > > Hey, > > I'm looking for a good shop to rebuild my Marvel carb from the 0200. Any > suggestions? Contact info would be appreciated too. > > Thanks, > > Douwe > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:36 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet For anyone interested in progress photos of the 50% scale model of 41CC, I scanned some pictures and uploaded them here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/model.pdf They are lousy quality but you get the idea. And I am not the builder but I'm very interested in the finished product. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:02 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet Oscar, what is the engine and its hp? -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga >Sent: Jul 20, 2010 1:48 PM >To: Pietenpol List >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet > > > >For anyone interested in progress photos of the 50% >scale model of 41CC, I scanned some pictures and uploaded >them here: >http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/model.pdf > >They are lousy quality but you get the idea. And I am >not the builder but I'm very interested in the finished >product. > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >_________________________________________________________________ >The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:20:43 AM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wx update (Chicago forecast) Brodhead FYI- Brodhead is 32mi. south of Madison, 97mi. north of Chicago. Living in Madison and often flying down to Brodhead, I've found Brodhead weather to be identical to Madison's. Roman Bukolt NX20795 See y'all down there! On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Kringle wrote: > > Weather.com shows a much more favorable forecast. > > -------- > John > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305563#305563 > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:45 AM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure? Mine starts out at 30psi but sometimes drops down to 25 after maybe 20 - 30min. of flight. R Bukolt NX20795 On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: > > Oscar and others with A65 or A75s, > > Sorry to belabor the issue - what's your idle oil pressure after > you've been flying for 30 or more minutes? That's when mine is > 15psi. I know 10psi is acceptable, but Don and others have said > that theirs remains at 35-40. > > After this, I'll put this issue to bed and enjoy flying it. :-) > > Again thanks to all you guys who have put some time and energy into > this thought process - you truly are a great bunch of people! I am > humbled and honored. > > Dan > > > On 07/19/2010 09:56 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > >>> Initial cold oil pressure was 45-50 and only fell to about 42 >>> when the temp climbed to 175F. At idle it was 15. >> >> My oil pressure is well up into the green, even at idle, up in >> the 40s. In flight, it's right where yours is. And my oil temp >> doesn't get to 180F till I've been in the air cruising or climbing >> for maybe 10-15 minutes or more. I think you're there. > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:17 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure? Hi Roman, How's the pressure at idle as you're pulling up to the hangar after a nice long flight? Thanks, Dan On 07/20/2010 01:23 PM, Roman Bukolt wrote: > > Mine starts out at 30psi but sometimes drops down to 25 after maybe 20 - > 30min. of flight. > R Bukolt NX20795 -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:01:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making a trial rib From: "PatrickW" > now I have a nice example rib hanging on my wall Bunch of us friends here in MN are building a Piet. When we made the 1st "template" rib, we all signed it. It's hanging somewhere. Kinda cool. :) - Pat -------- Patrick XL/650/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305614#305614 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:27:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet From: Rick Holland Wow, looks like it would be almost as much work to build as a full scale (cheaper though). Some nice work. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > For anyone interested in progress photos of the 50% > scale model of 41CC, I scanned some pictures and uploaded > them here: > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/model.pdf > > They are lousy quality but you get the idea. And I am > not the builder but I'm very interested in the finished > product. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Metal Brackets & Fittings From: "tkreiner" Earlier this year, I polled a number of local Pietenpol builders about whether they would have fabricated their own metal brackets & fittings, or purchased them if they had been available. Based on the information gathered, we've gone ahead and made a series of metal kits specifically for the Piet. The kits are substantially complete, and I'm bringing a very large sample set with me to Brodhead. While the samples were made to prints and spec's, they are not made from 4130, and may not be used in aircraft. That said, the 4130 alloy kits will be available in the August timeframe. Because I value the great comments from this forum, I'd appreciate it if any and all of you would stop by to spend a few minutes with me, give me your feedback, and let me know what you think. The completed kits are: 1. Empennage 2. Jenny Landing Gear 3. One Piece Wing kit 4. Center Wing Section of Three Piece Wing 5. LH or RH Wing Kit. In addition to the above, we're putting together an engine mount kit, and a controls kit. In the controls kit, there will be dual stick & rudder, along with the bellcrank behind the pilot's seat. With a few exceptions, all of the parts in the various kits will have all holes pre-drilled, and will be pre-bent. In several cases - those spelled out in the plans - the parts will be drilled or bent during assembly. Pricing is being developed as I write this, but suffice it to say, the cost to you isn't the principal benefit... According to the guys we polled, you might find yourself in the air one to two years earlier. I'm personally looking forward to seeing each of you I've met, and those who've added so many great comments during the past year. -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305622#305622 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet From: "Dan P" As a RC builder and pilot I appreciated the effort. Thanks for sharing. Keep us updated. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305629#305629 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:47:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info From: Ryan Mueller Can Bob Poore, or someone that knows Bob, please send me his telephone number? I have tried emailing him a number of times but I think they are getting caught in his Spam filter. I'd very much like to get a call in to him in the next couple of hours. Thanks! Ryan do not archive ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:05 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Metallurgists opinions please I am using aluminum struts for my wings and cabanes. I am wondering if 6061-T6 aluminum will work for the insert material in these struts, or should I use 7075 instead. Is 6061 suitable? Is 7075 overkill? Thanks. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 From: "Dan P" After installing a cowl mounted antenna (RAMI AV-534) for my hand held radio I have ignition noise in the radio. Is the IGNITION SHIELDING BRAID as sold by Aircraft Spruce effective? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/shieldbraid.php Pictures attached of the offending ignition. :) -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305640#305640 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_0853_650.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_0747_153.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_0733_112.jpg ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:02 PM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? Don Swords of Don's Dream Machines did ours for the 6 Big Piets and supplied the cores. He does seminars at Osh and SnF on small Continentals and holds several STC's for them. His number is 770-412-8885. We used UPS for shipping. Barry Davis -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? --> Hey, I'm looking for a good shop to rebuild my Marvel carb from the 0200. Any suggestions? Contact info would be appreciated too. Thanks, Douwe ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:03 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? Douwe=2C I have rebuilt dozens=2C if not hundreds of these things. Do it y ourself=2C it really is a no-brainer. It is all remove and replace=2C no a djustments. The rebuild kits are not expensive (or they didn't use to be). Just disassemble and clean=2C reassemble with new jets and gaskets and yo u are there. the shaft bushings are the only parts that wear. Ifr you rep lace the shaft bushing=2C you need a ream for that=2C but it is the most ch allenging (not) part of the procedure. Gene > From: bed@mindspring.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? > Date: Tue=2C 20 Jul 2010 17:45:38 -0400 > > > Don Swords of Don's Dream Machines did ours for the 6 Big Piets and suppl ied > the cores. He does seminars at Osh and SnF on small Continentals and hold s > several STC's for them. His number is 770-412-8885. We used UPS for > shipping. > Barry Davis > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe > Blumberg > Sent: Tuesday=2C July 20=2C 2010 11:00 AM > To: pietenpolgroup > Subject: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? > > --> > > Hey=2C > > I'm looking for a good shop to rebuild my Marvel carb from the 0200. Any > suggestions? Contact info would be appreciated too. > > Thanks=2C > > Douwe > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:50 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info PM sent... ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Mueller To: Pietenpol List Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info Can Bob Poore, or someone that knows Bob, please send me his telephone number? I have tried emailing him a number of times but I think they are getting caught in his Spam filter. I'd very much like to get a call in to him in the next couple of hours. Thanks! Ryan do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:13 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Metallurgists opinions please I am using 1X1 in. 6061-T6 square bars in my aluminum cabanes. I have salvaged Cub steel lift struts, that I will shorten at the bottom to overcome likely corrosion issues. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- From: Michael Perez Sent: Jul 20, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Metallurgists opinions please I am using aluminum struts for my wings and cabanes. I am wondering if 6061-T6 aluminum will work for the insert material in these struts, or should I use 7075 instead. Is 6061 suitable? Is 7075 overkill? Thanks. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:42 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Metal Brackets & Fittings Good for you, Tom -----Original Message----- >From: tkreiner >Sent: Jul 20, 2010 2:29 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Metal Brackets & Fittings > > >Earlier this year, I polled a number of local Pietenpol builders about whether they would have fabricated their own metal brackets & fittings, or purchased them if they had been available. Based on the information gathered, we've gone ahead and made a series of metal kits specifically for the Piet. > >The kits are substantially complete, and I'm bringing a very large sample set with me to Brodhead. While the samples were made to prints and spec's, they are not made from 4130, and may not be used in aircraft. That said, the 4130 alloy kits will be available in the August timeframe. > >Because I value the great comments from this forum, I'd appreciate it if any and all of you would stop by to spend a few minutes with me, give me your feedback, and let me know what you think. > >The completed kits are: > >1. Empennage >2. Jenny Landing Gear >3. One Piece Wing kit >4. Center Wing Section of Three Piece Wing >5. LH or RH Wing Kit. > >In addition to the above, we're putting together an engine mount kit, and a controls kit. In the controls kit, there will be dual stick & rudder, along with the bellcrank behind the pilot's seat. > >With a few exceptions, all of the parts in the various kits will have all holes pre-drilled, and will be pre-bent. In several cases - those spelled out in the plans - the parts will be drilled or bent during assembly. > >Pricing is being developed as I write this, but suffice it to say, the cost to you isn't the principal benefit... According to the guys we polled, you might find yourself in the air one to two years earlier. > >I'm personally looking forward to seeing each of you I've met, and those who've added so many great comments during the past year. > >-------- >Tom Kreiner > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305622#305622 > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dogs at Brodhead From: "Billy McCaskill" My wife and I had our dog with us at Brodhead last year, and nobody said anything at all about it, and nobody seemed to mind. In fact, he got a lot of head scratches and attention, which he greatly appreciated. We kept him leashed and picked up after him, and we had no problem at all with him there. Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL Looking forward to Brodhead again this year, but this time I won't have my wife or the dog with me... -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tailfeathers almost done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305661#305661 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 05:10:16 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dogs at Brodhead Well, we didn't SAY anything, buuut... =-O > >My wife and I had our dog with us at Brodhead last year, and nobody >said anything at all about it, Do not archive ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:40 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 From: "Pieti Lowell" Try a location as faraway from the engine as possible with the antenna. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305663#305663 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 From: "Dan P" This antenna needs a ground plane. There aren't any locations that are of a significant distance from the engine. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305669#305669 ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:57 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Yeah, but still, you might try it somewhere else and see if it works. We moved our antenna to the cut-out in the rear of our wing center section, and it works quite well, no shielding and no interference. Good luck! > >This antenna needs a ground plane. There aren't any locations that >are of a significant distance from the engine. > >-------- >Dan Plett -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:25 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Dan, For what it's worth, I'd buy some shielding and give that a try. I put my antenna in the same location on N502R and had wonderful results. Over 50 miles on a handheld while I was at 500 feet AGL. I have used the shielding on 2 strokes with very good results. Gene in Beautiful (but HOT) Tennessee -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan P" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 > > This antenna needs a ground plane. There aren't any locations that are > of a significant distance from the engine. > > -------- > Dan Plett > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305669#305669 > > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:30 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Dan, One more thing. Make sure your ground wire has good contact with your cowling. Gene -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan P" Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 > > This antenna needs a ground plane. There aren't any locations that are > of a significant distance from the engine. > > -------- > Dan Plett > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305669#305669 > > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead 2010 From: "coxwelljon" Well looking at departure on the bike at 0600 EDT, but weather looks pretty crappy along my route from NY. Looked at the prog charts and decided the stationary front is going to remain in place during my whole trip to Brohead. I decided that the better decision is to load up the car and remain dry, but I am still coming. Barbara was relieved and the wrinkles of concern have subsided from her face. I hope you guys flying in are careful and remain safe. Hope to see all of you at Broadhead. Jon Coxwell -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305686#305686 ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:05 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heading to Brodhead Well, we've started packing and I printed up a bunch of pictures of our Pietenpol. We are flying into Milwaukee courtesy of Delta airlines. See you all on Friday! Ben&Carol Charvet Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:46 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info Ryan It's 612 839-0235 Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Mueller To: Pietenpol List Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info Can Bob Poore, or someone that knows Bob, please send me his telephone number? I have tried emailing him a number of times but I think they are getting caught in his Spam filter. I'd very much like to get a call in to him in the next couple of hours. Thanks! Ryan do not archive ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:43 PM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Do you have access to the bell crank for your elevator? I was able to fit a large sheet of light aluminum behind the rear seat and install my antenna out the bottom. Works great. On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > > > Yeah, but still, you might try it somewhere else and see if it > works. We moved our antenna to the cut-out in the rear of our wing > center section, and it works quite well, no shielding and no > interference. Good luck! > >> >> This antenna needs a ground plane. There aren't any locations >> that are of a significant distance from the engine. >> >> -------- >> Dan Plett > > > -- > > Jeff Boatright > "Now let's think about this..." > > ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:46 PM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dogs at Brodhead Brodhead weather on Thurs. Winds 5 -15 out of the south-east so you'll be landing on 09. Light rain predicted in the morning ending around 1 PM. But then possible strong thunder storms Thurs. night. Make sure all you are bringing good Tie downs. They don't have them at Brodhead. temps will range from mid 60's in the morning and rising to mid 70's in the afternoon. do not archive On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Billy McCaskill wrote: > > > > My wife and I had our dog with us at Brodhead last year, and nobody > said anything at all about it, and nobody seemed to mind. In fact, > he got a lot of head scratches and attention, which he greatly > appreciated. We kept him leashed and picked up after him, and we > had no problem at all with him there. > > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > > Looking forward to Brodhead again this year, but this time I won't > have my wife or the dog with me... > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tailfeathers almost done > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305661#305661 > > ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 From: "Dan P" Thanks for all the suggestions. Looks like I have a lot of options. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305696#305696 ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bob Poore - Please send me your contact info From: Ryan Mueller Thanks Greg and Dick. I was able to get ahold of Bob. Have a good night, Ryan Mueller Sent from my mobile device Do not archive On Jul 20, 2010 10:31 PM, "Dick N" wrote: Ryan It's 612 839-0235 Dick N. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ryan Mueller > To: Pietenpol List > Sent: Tuesday, July 20... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.