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     1. 03:12 AM - Bit of progress (carson)
     2. 03:34 AM - Re: Re: Broadhead 2010 (Jack)
     3. 03:59 AM - Re: Broadhead 2010 (899PM)
     4. 04:05 AM - Re: Bit of progress (H RULE)
     5. 04:06 AM - WX forecast Chicago (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 05:51 AM - New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Oscar Zuniga)
     7. 05:54 AM - Fw: CorvAircraft> New Oshkosh notes. (Ryan Mueller)
     8. 05:55 AM - Big Piet meets little Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
     9. 06:02 AM - Piet People Bonus (Pieti Lowell)
    10. 06:14 AM - Re: Bit of progress (Jim Markle)
    11. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Mike Volckmann)
    12. 07:03 AM - Re: Bit of progress (Michael Silvius)
    13. 07:05 AM - Re: Bit of progress (Michael Silvius)
    14. 07:21 AM - A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Michael Silvius)
    15. 08:51 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis)
    16. 08:55 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Jim Markle)
    17. 09:16 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Jeff Boatright)
    18. 09:50 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Michael Silvius)
    19. 09:50 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Ed G.)
    20. 10:56 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (taildrags)
    21. 11:10 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Jim Markle)
    22. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis)
    23. 12:33 PM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Wayne Bressler)
    24. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan Yocum)
    25. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright)
    26. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan Yocum)
    27. 01:51 PM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Rick Holland)
    28. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (TOM STINEMETZE)
    29. 02:05 PM - Re: carb rebuilder? (shad bell)
    30. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright)
    31. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright)
    32. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Tim Willis)
    33. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright)
    34. 02:47 PM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis)
    35. 02:55 PM - BS Pile-up (Gary Boothe)
    36. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan Yocum)
    37. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright)
    38. 04:56 PM - Re: Piet People Bonus (Gary Boothe)
    39. 06:03 PM - Re: BS Pile-up (Rick Holland)
    40. 07:35 PM - Riblett 612 or 613.5, and jigs too... (Mark Roberts)
    41. 07:58 PM - Re: Piet People Bonus (Pieti Lowell)
    42. 08:00 PM - Re: WX forecast Chicago (Roman Bukolt)
 
 
 
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      Hi guys
      what a great feeling I just had to share
      Also would like to ask opinions 
      I am planning on no Dihedral but a bit of washout by making the rear strut 3/4
      of an inch longer is this how others have done it? Would 3/4 be to much or to
      little?
      Thanks 
      Carson
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Broadhead 2010 | 
      
      
      Brodhead or Bust!  Departing Des Moines this afternoon for Lake Geneva (to
      assemble my C85); then to Brodhead Thursday PM or Friday AM.  Driving our
      Itasca Sunrise, green and white.  Hope to park across the field far enough
      from the Brat-Heads to not bother them with generator noise and not smell
      the aroma wafting in the woods. Stop in and I will buy you a scotch.  Safe
      travels to all!
      Jack
      PS  Hope to have internet so keep sending your contact info.
      Do not archive  
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of coxwelljon
      Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:38 PM
      Subject:  Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead 2010
      
      <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
      
      Well looking at departure on the bike at 0600 EDT, but weather looks pretty
      crappy along my route from NY.  Looked at the prog charts and decided the
      stationary front is going to remain in place during my whole trip to
      Brohead.
      
      I decided that the better decision is to load up the car and remain dry, but
      I am still coming.  Barbara was relieved and the wrinkles of concern have
      subsided from her face.  I hope you guys flying in are careful and remain
      safe.  Hope to see all of you at Broadhead.
      
      Jon Coxwell
      
      --------
      Jon Coxwell  
      GN-1 Builder
      Recycle and preserve the planet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305686#305686
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Broadhead 2010 | 
      
      
      Jack,
      
      Typically, the "generators" are along the road south of the gas pump. Look forward
      to meeting you.
      
      --------
      PAPA MIKE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bit of progress | 
      
      We dropped our ailerons by about 1/2 " on both sides for wash out,not sure 
      about =0Astrut size,I'll have to check that.=0A=0AAnd yes no dihedral on a 
      split wing either.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: carson 
      <carsonvella@yahoo.com.au>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, 
      July 21, 2010 6:11:52 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress=0A=0A--
      =0AHi guys=0Awhat a great feeling I just had to share=0AAlso would like to 
      ask opinions =0AI am planning on no Dihedral but a bit of washout by making
       the rear strut 3/4 =0Aof an inch longer is this how others have done it? W
      ould 3/4 be to much or to =0Alittle?=0AThanks =0ACarson=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead 
      this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=
      305712#305712=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/
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| Subject:  | WX forecast Chicago | 
      
      
      Wednesday
      Partly cloudy 
      HI
      88=C2=B0
      
      LO
      72=C2=B0
      
      
      A few isolated thunderstorms possible Wednesday afternoon affecting only
       10 to 20 percent of Chicago's far southern suburbs. Sunshine mixed with
       cottony cumulus clouds, quite warm and fairly humid. Wednesday's highs av
      erage 4 degrees above normal. A light, variable large-scale wind regime al
      lows onshore (easterly) lake breezes to develop by afternoon. Partly cloud
      y Wednesday night, warm and moderately humid.
      
      
      Thursday
      Thunderstorms 
      HI
      83=C2=B0
      
      LO
      76=C2=B0
      
      
      Extensive cloudiness, more humid. Storms capable of downpours and gusty wi
      nds develop by afternoon affecting more than 60 percent of the area. Heavi
      est downpours could produce quick 1 to 2 inches of rain.
      
      
      Friday
      Mostly cloudy 
      HI
      97=C2=B0
      
      LO
      75=C2=B0
      
      
      Possibly hottest day of the year and potentially the hottest of the past
       four years. Partly sunny, windy, hot, humid. Gusty or severe storms after
      noon and/or evening over as much as 70 percent of the area.
      
      
      Saturday
      Thunderstorms 
      HI
      85=C2=B0
      
      LO
      67=C2=B0
      
      
      Opens humid. Clusters of showers and possible storms affect up to 60 perce
      nt of the area. Storms settle south, exiting the area late morning and aft
      ernoon. Cloud breaks follow. Winds shift northwest 8 to 18 mph.
      
      
      Sunday
      Partly cloudy 
      HI
      85=C2=B0
      
      LO
      66=C2=B0
      
      
      Sun and cottony fair weather clouds, warm and less humid. Light northeast
       breezes at 5 to 14 mph.
      
      
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| Subject:  | New cylinder - low oil pressure? | 
      
      
      
      Dan: my oil pressure stays up in the 35+ range once the
      engine is fired up and running, hot or cold.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
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| Subject:  | Fwd: CorvAircraft> New Oshkosh notes. | 
      
      >From William Wynne:
      
      Friends,
      
      You can click on this link to read a slightly updated version of our
      Oshkosh plans.
      _http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html_ (http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html)
      
      If you are headed to the show, come to our booth and we will take a minute
      to introduce you to everyone.
      
      If some one would forward this to the Piet list I would appreciate  it.
      
      Thank  you.
      
      William Wynne
      5000-18 HWY 17 #247
      Orange Park, FL 32003
      _http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html_ (http://flycorvair.com/hangar.html)
      _http://ZenVair.com_ (http://flycorvair.com/)
      
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| Subject:  | Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      
      Tim: I have no idea what make or model of engine is on
      the 1/2-scale Air Camper, but the builder mentioned that
      it is 20HP.
      
      Full-size Piets have flown on less ;o)
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
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| Subject:  | Piet People Bonus | 
      
      
      People of Piets
      If the old Ford is still kicking, will see you at Brodhead with. Pieti Gal to take
      orders for her Tee Shirts' to get her cash for Collage.
      I will have a Ford crank extension.with nut , allows a fit with all tapered hubs
      ,and steerable tail wheel ( Ken Perkins design ), proceeds going to collage
      fund.
      Pieti Lowell
      Do Not Archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305737#305737
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bit of progress | 
      
      
      For me, lifting the wing and supporting it with a kind of scaffold THEN measuring
      the struts/strut fittings was the only way I could get the wings where I wanted
      them.
      
      I found that a tiny bit of difference in the wings (I can't imagine 2 perfectly
      exact hand made wings or anything else for that matter) made each fitting a tiny
      bit different.
      
      Rather than making fittings and "bolting it up", I would recommend putting the
      wing where you want it THEN building the struts and strut fittings around that....
      
      Now that I think about it, I believe the curve of the fuse and such made it impossible
      for me to make one set of struts then just "add or subtract an exact amount"
      from the length of the other.  Maybe I'm over thinking this (or just don't
      know what I'm talking about, as usual) but I don't think I was able to make
      such a simple adjustment.  Those dimensions ended up being a bit more "custom
      fit" for mine as I recall.
      
      Maybe after another cup of coffee I wonder where I came up with all this...  :-)
      
      jm
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: carson <carsonvella@yahoo.com.au>
      >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 5:11 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress
      >
      >
      >Hi guys
      >what a great feeling I just had to share
      >Also would like to ask opinions 
      >I am planning on no Dihedral but a bit of washout by making the rear strut 3/4
      of an inch longer is this how others have done it? Would 3/4 be to much or to
      little?
      >Thanks 
      >Carson
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305712#305712
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      >
      >Attachments: 
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_096_366.jpg
      >http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_094_311.jpg
      >http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_100_185.jpg
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      You might want to try a MiracleAntenna, http://www.miracleantenna.com/.- 
      It is =0Amy understanding that it is a 1/2 wave antenna and does not need a
       ground =0Aplane.- Most aircraft antennas are 1/4 wave antennas and requi
      re-a-ground plane =0Ato provide the-other half of the antenna.=0A-M
      ike Volckmann =0A=0A=0AThe only thing we ever learn from history is that we
       never learn from history. =0AGeorge Bernard Shaw =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______
      _________________________=0AFrom: Dan P <dlplett@swko.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-
      list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:56:30 PM=0ASubject: Pietenp
      ol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List mess
      age posted by: "Dan P" <dlplett@swko.net>=0A=0AThis antenna needs a ground 
      plane.- There aren't any locations that are of a =0Asignificant distance 
      from the engine.=0A=0A--------=0ADan Plett=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic on
      line here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305669#305669
      =======================
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bit of progress | 
      
      A couple months ago a I spotted an aircamper at Hampton NewHampshire that
      was in its final rigging phase. He used a slick idea to rig his wings. A
      couple of temporary telescoping pieces of electrical conduit with the
      telescoping bit suitably sliced and a hose clamp allowed for a infinitely
      adjustable strut previous to making up the permanent ones to the resulting
      length needed.
      Hope the attached pictures show the detail well enough.
      
      Michael in Maine
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      
      
      >
      > For me, lifting the wing and supporting it with a kind of scaffold THEN
      measuring the struts/strut fittings was the only way I could get the wings
      where I wanted them.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bit of progress | 
      
      a closer picture of the adjustable temporary strut.
      
      Michael
      
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| Subject:  | A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light.  
      
      In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air camper.  He had
      BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on either side, and maybe the
      Hstab and elevators a little shorter.  The engine was a Kawasaki 450.  It had
      no mufflers and was really noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine.  He was largely
      ignored by the purists.  
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 7:51 AM
      >To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet
      >
      >
      >
      >Tim: I have no idea what make or model of engine is on
      >the 1/2-scale Air Camper, but the builder mentioned that
      >it is 20HP.
      > 
      >Full-size Piets have flown on less ;o)
      >
      >Oscar Zuniga
      >Air Camper NX41CC
      >San Antonio, TX
      >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      >_________________________________________________________________
      >The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH | 
      
      
      Nice pics!  I like that antennae location...
      
      Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of how the
      retractable step is mounted inside the fuse?  Assume it slides into another piece
      of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse.  I've been wrestling
      with that for a long time...
      
      thanks for the pictures!  Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there.....
      
      jm
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net>
      >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 10:09 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      No true! Not true! My dad and I spent quite a bit of time talking 
      with the fellow and his wife. The wife was a very nice, outgoing 
      person. Hubby was much quieter. I think they've been to more than one 
      B'head, 'cause the year I talked with them, the K450 had a muffler.
      
      
      >
      >I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light. 
      >
      >In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air 
      >camper.  He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on 
      >either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter. 
      >The engine was a Kawasaki 450.  It had no mufflers and was really 
      >noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine.  He was largely ignored by 
      >the purists. 
      >
      
      
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH | 
      
      
      Jim:
      
      DJ's old site shows several pictures on how he did it.
      http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-08-04.htm
      
      I am thinking potentialy you could even have a bunge on the inside so it is
      self retracting though that may complicate dismount.
      
      Michael
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >
      > Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of how
      the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse?  Assume it slides into
      another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse.
      I've been wrestling with that for a long time...
      >
      > thanks for the pictures!  Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there.....
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH | 
      
      
      Nice looking GN-1 and I like the adjustable strut length jig idea.
      
      > From: silvius@gwi.net
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH
      > Date: Wed=2C 21 Jul 2010 10:09:25 -0500
      > 
       		 	   		  
      _________________________________________________________________
      The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with H
      otmail. 
      http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      Are you sure you weren't looking at a Roger Mann RW-1 "Ragwing Ultra Piet"?  
      
      http://www.ragwing.net/fleet/RW01Ultra-Piet.html
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      Air Camper NX41CC
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305785#305785
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH | 
      
      
      
      Thanks Michael,
      
      I like DJ's way of doing it.  I remember seeing this a long time ago but had forgotten....thanks
      for the reminder!
      
      DJ had a lot of really neat ideas.
      
      jm
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net>
      >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 12:43 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH
      >
      >
      >Jim:
      >
      >DJ's old site shows several pictures on how he did it.
      >http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-08-04.htm
      >
      >I am thinking potentialy you could even have a bunge on the inside so it is
      >self retracting though that may complicate dismount.
      >
      >Michael
      >
      >
      >----- Original Message ----- 
      >From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >>
      >> Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of how
      >the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse?  Assume it slides into
      >another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse.
      >I've been wrestling with that for a long time...
      >>
      >> thanks for the pictures!  Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there.....
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      Oscar,
      Dunno.  It is possible.  
      
      I do not recall the details from conversations from 4 years ago, but at the time
      I believed this fellow had scaled down plans for the Piet and then built it
      accordingly.  I recall sitka materials and (I think) latex paint.  
      
      As I recall he also had a reduction drive of his own fabrication, and had added
      marker lights driven off a turn signal blinker.  My buddy Ron and I found him
      an interesting fellow, and he and his wife quite pleasant. I think they might
      have been from Minnesota or northern Wisconsin.  
      
      I found his plane novel and interesting, but not something I wanted to build. 
      For myself if I were going simple, slow, and historic like a Piet, but single
      place, I would not build half-a-Piet or some such, or a Scout, but likely a FlyBaby.
      Of course, that is another whole subject worthy of further discussion.
      
      Tim in central TX
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 12:55 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet
      >
      >
      >Are you sure you weren't looking at a Roger Mann RW-1 "Ragwing Ultra Piet"?  
      >
      >http://www.ragwing.net/fleet/RW01Ultra-Piet.html
      >
      >--------
      >Oscar Zuniga
      >San Antonio, TX
      >Air Camper NX41CC
      >
      >
      ><clip>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      Roger Mann sells plans for the "Ultra Piet" under the Rag Wing company  
      name.  A google search will probably yield a website and more info.   
      If memory serves me correctly, he uses the KAW 440 almost exclusively  
      in his single seat designs.  The Ultra Piet is a single seat design,  
      and sounds similiar to what you're describing (I don't know about the  
      airfoils, etc).
      
      Wayne Bressler Jr.
      Taildraggers, Inc.
      taildraggersinc.com
      
      On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>  
      wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light.
      >
      > In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air  
      > camper.  He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on  
      > either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter.   
      > The engine was a Kawasaki 450.  It had no mufflers and was really  
      > noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine.  He was largely ignored by  
      > the purists.
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      >> From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >> Sent: Jul 21, 2010 7:51 AM
      >> To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >> Tim: I have no idea what make or model of engine is on
      >> the 1/2-scale Air Camper, but the builder mentioned that
      >> it is 20HP.
      >>
      >> Full-size Piets have flown on less ;o)
      >>
      >> Oscar Zuniga
      >> Air Camper NX41CC
      >> San Antonio, TX
      >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >> _________________________________________________________________
      >> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple  
      >> calendars with Hotmail.
      >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring.  I took it off, but the 
      previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition cables are 
      unshielded.
      
      Dan
      
      On 07/20/2010 07:56 PM, Dan P wrote:
      > -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan P"<dlplett@swko.net>
      >
      > This antenna needs a ground plane.   There aren't any locations that are of a
      significant distance from the engine.
      >
      > --------
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      Wing faring? Where is that located?
      
      
      >
      >N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring.  I took it off, but 
      >the previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition 
      >cables are unshielded.
      >
      >Dan
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      
      On 07/21/2010 03:19 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:
      >
      > Wing faring? Where is that located?
      
      Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of course!
      
      ;-)
      
      That should be fairing, with an "i."
      
      Dan
      
      do not archive
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH | 
      
      With all the wind resistance of a Piet I figured why retract a step? So I
      did a fixed one.
      
      rick
      
      On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > Jim:
      >
      > DJ's old site shows several pictures on how he did it.
      > http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-08-04.htm
      >
      > I am thinking potentialy you could even have a bunge on the inside so it is
      > self retracting though that may complicate dismount.
      >
      > Michael
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      > >
      > > Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of
      > how
      > the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse?  Assume it slides into
      > another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse.
      > I've been wrestling with that for a long time...
      > >
      > > thanks for the pictures!  Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there.....
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty 
      deep just a few days before Brodhead?  The adrenalin rush must be to much 
      for some folks to handle.
      
      Stinemetze
      N328X
      do not archive
      
      
      > Wing faring? Where is that located?
      
      >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of 
      course! ;-)
      
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      Douwe, there is really nutt'n to it, save the big money.- Like others on 
      here have said it's just a bunch of remove and replace stuff.- Buy the ma
      rvell scebler manual with the updates and the overhaul kit and fix her up.
      - Just be sure to get it good and cleaned out before assembly, dirt and g
      rime finds its way into those tiny jets and passages.- Have heard small g
      uitar string is good for roto-rootering them out, but haven't tried it myse
      lf.- Just dont grind or remove the material while cleaning.
      -
      Shad
      -
      P.S.- since I am not going to Brodhead I will go out and work on my airpl
      ane.=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      OK, but where is it? Is it a triangular metal piece that with an 
      inner curve that defines the cut-out on the wind center section? 
      Trying to figure out where your antenna had been mounted. And, why 
      did you remove it? Being antisocial again, Dan? ;-)
      
      
      >
      >
      >On 07/21/2010 03:19 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:
      >>
      >>Wing faring? Where is that located?
      >
      >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of course!
      >
      >;-)
      >
      >That should be fairing, with an "i."
      >
      >Dan
      >
      >do not archive
      
      -- 
      ---
      
      Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
      Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
      Emory University School of Medicine
      Editor-in-Chief
      Molecular Vision
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      Well, I honestly want to know what Dan is referring to. What fairing 
      (or faring) and where?
      
      
      >Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
      >Content-Description: HTML
      >
      >Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up 
      >pretty deep just a few days before Brodhead?  The adrenalin rush 
      >must be to much for some folks to handle.
      >
      >Stinemetze
      >N328X
      >do not archive
      >
      >
        do not archive, apparently...
      
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      What's more, besides the shielding, now I want to know what a "wing fairing" is,
      too.
      Tim in central TX
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Jeff Boatright 
      Sent: Jul 21, 2010 4:27 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 
      
      Well, I honestly want to know what Dan is referring to. What fairing (or faring)
      and where?
      
      Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
      Content-Description: HTML
      
      Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep just
      a few days before Brodhead?  The adrenalin rush must be to much for some folks
      to handle.
      
      Stinemetze
      N328X
      do not archive
      
      <clip>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      Ah, the mysterious world or Pietenpols!  :)
      
      And Tom's right, the BS does pile up.
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      >
      >What's more, besides the shielding, now I want to know what a "wing 
      >fairing" is, too.
      >Tim in central TX
      >do not archive
      
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Piet meets little Piet | 
      
      
      Thanks, Wayne.  That must have been it, then.
      do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
      >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 2:29 PM
      >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet
      >
      >
      >Roger Mann sells plans for the "Ultra Piet" under the Rag Wing company  
      >name.  A google search will probably yield a website and more info.   
      >If memory serves me correctly, he uses the KAW 440 almost exclusively  
      >in his single seat designs.  The Ultra Piet is a single seat design,  
      >and sounds similiar to what you're describing (I don't know about the  
      >airfoils, etc).
      >
      >Wayne Bressler Jr.
      >Taildraggers, Inc.
      >taildraggersinc.com
      >
      >On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>  
      >wrote:
      >
      >> >
      >>
      >> I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light.
      >>
      >> In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air  
      >> camper.  He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on  
      >> either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter.   
      >> The engine was a Kawasaki 450.  It had no mufflers and was really  
      >> noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine.  He was largely ignored by  
      >> the purists.
      
      >><clip>
      
      
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      Tom,
      
      You're right, without doubt; but look on the positive side.at least this
      year there isn't the conversation about Blazing Saddles and related topics.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, CA
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      20 ribs done
      
      donutarchive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
      STINEMETZE
      Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:56 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65
      
      
      Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep
      just a few days before Brodhead?  The adrenalin rush must be to much for
      some folks to handle.
      
      
      Stinemetze
      
      N328X
      
      do not archive
      
      
      > Wing faring? Where is that located?
      
      >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of
      course! ;-)
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      Oh, Jeff was being serious - I thought he was pointing out my excellent spelling
      skills. 
      
      N8031 has a 3 piece wing. I call that metal gap seal between the wing and the center
      section the fairing. Isn't that what it's called?  
      
      The antenna was attached to that metal strip. Why'd I take it off?  Because I don't
      have a radio - haven't found a need for it around here, really. I suppose
      I might need it when I start flying into more pancake breakfasts, but I think
      a hand held should suffice to talk at traffic in the pattern. 
      
      Dan
      
      -- 
      yocum@gmail.com
      
      On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > What's more, besides the shielding, now I want to know what a "wing fairing"
      is, too.
      > Tim in central TX
      > do not archive
      > 
      > -----Original Message----- 
      > From: Jeff Boatright 
      > Sent: Jul 21, 2010 4:27 PM 
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 
      > 
      > Well, I honestly want to know what Dan is referring to. What fairing (or faring)
      and where?
      > 
      > Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
      > Content-Description: HTML
      > 
      > Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep
      just a few days before Brodhead?  The adrenalin rush must be to much for some
      folks to handle.
      > 
      > Stinemetze
      > N328X
      > do not archive
      > 
      > <clip>
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      Well, now that THAT's settled...  :)
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      >
      >Oh, Jeff was being serious - I thought he was pointing out my 
      >excellent spelling skills.
      >
      >N8031 has a 3 piece wing. I call that metal gap seal between the 
      >wing and the center section the fairing. Isn't that what it's 
      >called? 
      >
      >The antenna was attached to that metal strip. Why'd I take it off? 
      >Because I don't have a radio - haven't found a need for it around 
      >here, really. I suppose I might need it when I start flying into 
      >more pancake breakfasts, but I think a hand held should suffice to 
      >talk at traffic in the pattern.
      >
      >Dan
      >
      
      
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Piet People Bonus | 
      
      
      Pieti,
      
      Can't make it to Brodhead! How can I contribute to Pieti Gal's college fund?
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, CA
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      20 ribs done
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pieti Lowell
      Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:02 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet People Bonus
      
      <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      
      People of Piets
      If the old Ford is still kicking, will see you at Brodhead with. Pieti Gal
      to take orders for her Tee Shirts' to get her cash for Collage.
      I will have a Ford crank extension.with nut , allows a fit with all tapered
      hubs ,and steerable tail wheel ( Ken Perkins design ), proceeds going to
      collage fund.
      Pieti Lowell
      Do Not Archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305737#305737
      
      
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      Yup, like a bunch of kids on Christmas Eve (except Brodhead is even more
      fun).
      
      
      On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  Tom,
      >
      > You=92re right, without doubt; but look on the positive side=85at least t
      his
      > year there isn=92t the conversation about Blazing Saddles and related top
      ics=85
      >
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      >
      > Cool, CA
      >
      > Pietenpol
      >
      > WW Corvair Conversion
      >
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      >
      > 20 ribs done
      >
      > donutarchive
      >
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *TOM STINEMETZE
      > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:56 PM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65
      >
      >
      > *Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty
      > deep just a few days before Brodhead?  The adrenalin rush must be to much
      > for some folks to handle.*
      >
      >
      > *Stinemetze*
      >
      > *N328X*
      >
      > *do not archive*
      >
      >
      > > Wing faring? Where is that located?
      >
      > >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of
      > course! ;-)
      >
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      >
      > *http://forums.matronics.com*
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      > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
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      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Riblett 612 or 613.5, and jigs too... | 
      
      
      Hi All:
      
      Can anyone recall where the Riblett 613.5 was discussed as potentially
      a better airfoil for the Piet than the 612? I think I remember seeing
      this somewhere but I can't seem to find it in the archives. I know the
      613.5 is a thicker airfoil, and I am looking for a higher lift from my
      wing verses the original FC-10 due to the air density here in Central
      California. So far I have one 613.5 and one 612 built.
      
      I have built a computer generated and CNC cut Peg Jig's for both
      airfoils, and I finished recently a really accurate stick cutting jig
      for the individual rib sticks. But, I paused the project, and am now
      going to pick back up again soon.
      
      Thanks for the memory help!
      -- 
      Mark Roberts
      California Laser Etch
      www.california-laser.com
      888-882-5015
      888-882-5016 fax
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Piet People Bonus | 
      
      
      Gary:
      Contact me on my Email , (lowellcfrank@yahoo.com ),with your shirt size and I will
      see that you get a nice note, and Tee-shirt, from a great young engineer of
      the future. You will be surprised with the results of Mentoring FIRST Robot
      students, and how they develop into adults with brains.
      Pieti Lowell
      Can't make it to Brodhead! How can I contribute to Pieti Gal's college fund?
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, CA
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      20 ribs done
      Do not archive
      
      --[/quote]
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305884#305884
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: WX forecast Chicago | 
      
      And here's the weather from only 32 mi. north of Brodhead.
      Tomorrow Thurs.Temps ranging from 70 @ 7AM to77 @ noon
      Winds south  @ 12 - 15 mph  some possibl light rain
      Afternoon temps ranging from 80 - 89 by 4PM
      winds shifting to 19 SW around 3 Pm continued light rain with brief  
      possible downpour.
      Friday- Temps ranging from 82 @ 7AM to87 @ noon
      Winds in the morning 13 - 15 out of the west shifting to the SW around  
      
      10AM
      Possible light rain in the afternoon temps 86 wind w @ 13
      
      
      On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:06 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
      
      > Wednesday
      > Partly cloudy
      > HI
      > 88=B0
      > LO
      > 72=B0
      > A few isolated thunderstorms possible Wednesday afternoon affecting  
      
      > only 10 to 20 percent of Chicago's far southern suburbs. Sunshine  
      > mixed with cottony cumulus clouds, quite warm and fairly humid.  
      > Wednesday's highs average 4 degrees above normal. A light, variable  
      
      > large-scale wind regime allows onshore (easterly) lake breezes to  
      > develop by afternoon. Partly cloudy Wednesday night, warm and  
      > moderately humid.
      > Thursday
      > Thunderstorms
      > HI
      > 83=B0
      > LO
      > 76=B0
      > Extensive cloudiness, more humid. Storms capable of downpours and  
      > gusty winds develop by afternoon affecting more than 60 percent of  
      > the area. Heaviest downpours could produce quick 1 to 2 inches of  
      > rain.
      > Friday
      > Mostly cloudy
      > HI
      > 97=B0
      > LO
      > 75=B0
      > Possibly hottest day of the year and potentially the hottest of the  
      
      > past four years. Partly sunny, windy, hot, humid. Gusty or severe  
      > storms afternoon and/or evening over as much as 70 percent of the  
      > area.
      > Saturday
      > Thunderstorms
      > HI
      > 85=B0
      > LO
      > 67=B0
      > Opens humid. Clusters of showers and possible storms affect up to 60  
      
      > percent of the area. Storms settle south, exiting the area late  
      > morning and afternoon. Cloud breaks follow. Winds shift northwest 8  
      
      > to 18 mph.
      > Sunday
      > Partly cloudy
      > HI
      > 85=B0
      > LO
      > 66=B0
      > Sun and cottony fair weather clouds, warm and less humid. Light  
      > northeast breezes at 5 to 14 mph.
      >
      >
      
      
 
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