---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/21/10: 42 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:12 AM - Bit of progress (carson) 2. 03:34 AM - Re: Re: Broadhead 2010 (Jack) 3. 03:59 AM - Re: Broadhead 2010 (899PM) 4. 04:05 AM - Re: Bit of progress (H RULE) 5. 04:06 AM - WX forecast Chicago (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 05:51 AM - New cylinder - low oil pressure? (Oscar Zuniga) 7. 05:54 AM - Fw: CorvAircraft> New Oshkosh notes. (Ryan Mueller) 8. 05:55 AM - Big Piet meets little Piet (Oscar Zuniga) 9. 06:02 AM - Piet People Bonus (Pieti Lowell) 10. 06:14 AM - Re: Bit of progress (Jim Markle) 11. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Mike Volckmann) 12. 07:03 AM - Re: Bit of progress (Michael Silvius) 13. 07:05 AM - Re: Bit of progress (Michael Silvius) 14. 07:21 AM - A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Michael Silvius) 15. 08:51 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis) 16. 08:55 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Jim Markle) 17. 09:16 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Jeff Boatright) 18. 09:50 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Michael Silvius) 19. 09:50 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Ed G.) 20. 10:56 AM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (taildrags) 21. 11:10 AM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Jim Markle) 22. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis) 23. 12:33 PM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Wayne Bressler) 24. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan Yocum) 25. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright) 26. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan Yocum) 27. 01:51 PM - Re: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH (Rick Holland) 28. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (TOM STINEMETZE) 29. 02:05 PM - Re: carb rebuilder? (shad bell) 30. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright) 31. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright) 32. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Tim Willis) 33. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright) 34. 02:47 PM - Re: Big Piet meets little Piet (Tim Willis) 35. 02:55 PM - BS Pile-up (Gary Boothe) 36. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Dan Yocum) 37. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (Jeff Boatright) 38. 04:56 PM - Re: Piet People Bonus (Gary Boothe) 39. 06:03 PM - Re: BS Pile-up (Rick Holland) 40. 07:35 PM - Riblett 612 or 613.5, and jigs too... (Mark Roberts) 41. 07:58 PM - Re: Piet People Bonus (Pieti Lowell) 42. 08:00 PM - Re: WX forecast Chicago (Roman Bukolt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress From: "carson" Hi guys what a great feeling I just had to share Also would like to ask opinions I am planning on no Dihedral but a bit of washout by making the rear strut 3/4 of an inch longer is this how others have done it? Would 3/4 be to much or to little? Thanks Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305712#305712 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_096_366.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_094_311.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_100_185.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:16 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead 2010 Brodhead or Bust! Departing Des Moines this afternoon for Lake Geneva (to assemble my C85); then to Brodhead Thursday PM or Friday AM. Driving our Itasca Sunrise, green and white. Hope to park across the field far enough from the Brat-Heads to not bother them with generator noise and not smell the aroma wafting in the woods. Stop in and I will buy you a scotch. Safe travels to all! Jack PS Hope to have internet so keep sending your contact info. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of coxwelljon Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead 2010 Well looking at departure on the bike at 0600 EDT, but weather looks pretty crappy along my route from NY. Looked at the prog charts and decided the stationary front is going to remain in place during my whole trip to Brohead. I decided that the better decision is to load up the car and remain dry, but I am still coming. Barbara was relieved and the wrinkles of concern have subsided from her face. I hope you guys flying in are careful and remain safe. Hope to see all of you at Broadhead. Jon Coxwell -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305686#305686 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead 2010 From: "899PM" Jack, Typically, the "generators" are along the road south of the gas pump. Look forward to meeting you. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305716#305716 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:26 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress We dropped our ailerons by about 1/2 " on both sides for wash out,not sure about =0Astrut size,I'll have to check that.=0A=0AAnd yes no dihedral on a split wing either.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: carson =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, July 21, 2010 6:11:52 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress=0A=0A-- =0AHi guys=0Awhat a great feeling I just had to share=0AAlso would like to ask opinions =0AI am planning on no Dihedral but a bit of washout by making the rear strut 3/4 =0Aof an inch longer is this how others have done it? W ould 3/4 be to much or to =0Alittle?=0AThanks =0ACarson=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= 305712#305712=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/ /files/pietenpol_096_366.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol _094_311.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_100_185.jpg=0A =========================0A ================= ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: WX forecast Chicago From: helspersew@aol.com Wednesday Partly cloudy HI 88=C2=B0 LO 72=C2=B0 A few isolated thunderstorms possible Wednesday afternoon affecting only 10 to 20 percent of Chicago's far southern suburbs. Sunshine mixed with cottony cumulus clouds, quite warm and fairly humid. Wednesday's highs av erage 4 degrees above normal. A light, variable large-scale wind regime al lows onshore (easterly) lake breezes to develop by afternoon. Partly cloud y Wednesday night, warm and moderately humid. Thursday Thunderstorms HI 83=C2=B0 LO 76=C2=B0 Extensive cloudiness, more humid. Storms capable of downpours and gusty wi nds develop by afternoon affecting more than 60 percent of the area. Heavi est downpours could produce quick 1 to 2 inches of rain. Friday Mostly cloudy HI 97=C2=B0 LO 75=C2=B0 Possibly hottest day of the year and potentially the hottest of the past four years. Partly sunny, windy, hot, humid. Gusty or severe storms after noon and/or evening over as much as 70 percent of the area. Saturday Thunderstorms HI 85=C2=B0 LO 67=C2=B0 Opens humid. Clusters of showers and possible storms affect up to 60 perce nt of the area. Storms settle south, exiting the area late morning and aft ernoon. Cloud breaks follow. Winds shift northwest 8 to 18 mph. Sunday Partly cloudy HI 85=C2=B0 LO 66=C2=B0 Sun and cottony fair weather clouds, warm and less humid. Light northeast breezes at 5 to 14 mph. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:03 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure? Dan: my oil pressure stays up in the 35+ range once the engine is fired up and running, hot or cold. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: CorvAircraft> New Oshkosh notes. From: Ryan Mueller >From William Wynne: Friends, You can click on this link to read a slightly updated version of our Oshkosh plans. _http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html_ (http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html) If you are headed to the show, come to our booth and we will take a minute to introduce you to everyone. If some one would forward this to the Piet list I would appreciate it. Thank you. William Wynne 5000-18 HWY 17 #247 Orange Park, FL 32003 _http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html_ (http://flycorvair.com/hangar.html) _http://ZenVair.com_ (http://flycorvair.com/) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:55 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet Tim: I have no idea what make or model of engine is on the 1/2-scale Air Camper, but the builder mentioned that it is 20HP. Full-size Piets have flown on less ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet People Bonus From: "Pieti Lowell" People of Piets If the old Ford is still kicking, will see you at Brodhead with. Pieti Gal to take orders for her Tee Shirts' to get her cash for Collage. I will have a Ford crank extension.with nut , allows a fit with all tapered hubs ,and steerable tail wheel ( Ken Perkins design ), proceeds going to collage fund. Pieti Lowell Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305737#305737 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:38 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress For me, lifting the wing and supporting it with a kind of scaffold THEN measuring the struts/strut fittings was the only way I could get the wings where I wanted them. I found that a tiny bit of difference in the wings (I can't imagine 2 perfectly exact hand made wings or anything else for that matter) made each fitting a tiny bit different. Rather than making fittings and "bolting it up", I would recommend putting the wing where you want it THEN building the struts and strut fittings around that.... Now that I think about it, I believe the curve of the fuse and such made it impossible for me to make one set of struts then just "add or subtract an exact amount" from the length of the other. Maybe I'm over thinking this (or just don't know what I'm talking about, as usual) but I don't think I was able to make such a simple adjustment. Those dimensions ended up being a bit more "custom fit" for mine as I recall. Maybe after another cup of coffee I wonder where I came up with all this... :-) jm -----Original Message----- >From: carson >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 5:11 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress > > >Hi guys >what a great feeling I just had to share >Also would like to ask opinions >I am planning on no Dihedral but a bit of washout by making the rear strut 3/4 of an inch longer is this how others have done it? Would 3/4 be to much or to little? >Thanks >Carson > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305712#305712 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_096_366.jpg >http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_094_311.jpg >http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_100_185.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:52 AM PST US From: Mike Volckmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 You might want to try a MiracleAntenna, http://www.miracleantenna.com/.- It is =0Amy understanding that it is a 1/2 wave antenna and does not need a ground =0Aplane.- Most aircraft antennas are 1/4 wave antennas and requi re-a-ground plane =0Ato provide the-other half of the antenna.=0A-M ike Volckmann =0A=0A=0AThe only thing we ever learn from history is that we never learn from history. =0AGeorge Bernard Shaw =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______ _________________________=0AFrom: Dan P =0ATo: pietenpol- list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:56:30 PM=0ASubject: Pietenp ol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List mess age posted by: "Dan P" =0A=0AThis antenna needs a ground plane.- There aren't any locations that are of a =0Asignificant distance from the engine.=0A=0A--------=0ADan Plett=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic on line here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305669#305669 ======================= ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress A couple months ago a I spotted an aircamper at Hampton NewHampshire that was in its final rigging phase. He used a slick idea to rig his wings. A couple of temporary telescoping pieces of electrical conduit with the telescoping bit suitably sliced and a hose clamp allowed for a infinitely adjustable strut previous to making up the permanent ones to the resulting length needed. Hope the attached pictures show the detail well enough. Michael in Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Markle" > > For me, lifting the wing and supporting it with a kind of scaffold THEN measuring the struts/strut fittings was the only way I could get the wings where I wanted them. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:09 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bit of progress a closer picture of the adjustable temporary strut. Michael ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:39 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:35 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light. In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air camper. He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter. The engine was a Kawasaki 450. It had no mufflers and was really noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine. He was largely ignored by the purists. -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 7:51 AM >To: Pietenpol List >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet > > > >Tim: I have no idea what make or model of engine is on >the 1/2-scale Air Camper, but the builder mentioned that >it is 20HP. > >Full-size Piets have flown on less ;o) > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >_________________________________________________________________ >The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:58 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH Nice pics! I like that antennae location... Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of how the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse? Assume it slides into another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse. I've been wrestling with that for a long time... thanks for the pictures! Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there..... jm -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Silvius >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 10:09 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:47 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet No true! Not true! My dad and I spent quite a bit of time talking with the fellow and his wife. The wife was a very nice, outgoing person. Hubby was much quieter. I think they've been to more than one B'head, 'cause the year I talked with them, the K450 had a muffler. > >I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light. > >In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air >camper. He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on >either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter. >The engine was a Kawasaki 450. It had no mufflers and was really >noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine. He was largely ignored by >the purists. > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:52 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH Jim: DJ's old site shows several pictures on how he did it. http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-08-04.htm I am thinking potentialy you could even have a bunge on the inside so it is self retracting though that may complicate dismount. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Markle" > > Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of how the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse? Assume it slides into another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse. I've been wrestling with that for a long time... > > thanks for the pictures! Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there..... > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:52 AM PST US From: "Ed G." Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH Nice looking GN-1 and I like the adjustable strut length jig idea. > From: silvius@gwi.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH > Date: Wed=2C 21 Jul 2010 10:09:25 -0500 > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with H otmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet From: "taildrags" Are you sure you weren't looking at a Roger Mann RW-1 "Ragwing Ultra Piet"? http://www.ragwing.net/fleet/RW01Ultra-Piet.html -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305785#305785 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:10:44 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH Thanks Michael, I like DJ's way of doing it. I remember seeing this a long time ago but had forgotten....thanks for the reminder! DJ had a lot of really neat ideas. jm -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Silvius >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 12:43 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH > > >Jim: > >DJ's old site shows several pictures on how he did it. >http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-08-04.htm > >I am thinking potentialy you could even have a bunge on the inside so it is >self retracting though that may complicate dismount. > >Michael > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim Markle" >> >> Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of how >the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse? Assume it slides into >another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse. >I've been wrestling with that for a long time... >> >> thanks for the pictures! Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there..... >> > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:40:05 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet Oscar, Dunno. It is possible. I do not recall the details from conversations from 4 years ago, but at the time I believed this fellow had scaled down plans for the Piet and then built it accordingly. I recall sitka materials and (I think) latex paint. As I recall he also had a reduction drive of his own fabrication, and had added marker lights driven off a turn signal blinker. My buddy Ron and I found him an interesting fellow, and he and his wife quite pleasant. I think they might have been from Minnesota or northern Wisconsin. I found his plane novel and interesting, but not something I wanted to build. For myself if I were going simple, slow, and historic like a Piet, but single place, I would not build half-a-Piet or some such, or a Scout, but likely a FlyBaby. Of course, that is another whole subject worthy of further discussion. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: taildrags >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 12:55 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Piet meets little Piet > > >Are you sure you weren't looking at a Roger Mann RW-1 "Ragwing Ultra Piet"? > >http://www.ragwing.net/fleet/RW01Ultra-Piet.html > >-------- >Oscar Zuniga >San Antonio, TX >Air Camper NX41CC > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:33:41 PM PST US From: Wayne Bressler Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet Roger Mann sells plans for the "Ultra Piet" under the Rag Wing company name. A google search will probably yield a website and more info. If memory serves me correctly, he uses the KAW 440 almost exclusively in his single seat designs. The Ultra Piet is a single seat design, and sounds similiar to what you're describing (I don't know about the airfoils, etc). Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Tim Willis wrote: > > > > I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light. > > In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air > camper. He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on > either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter. > The engine was a Kawasaki 450. It had no mufflers and was really > noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine. He was largely ignored by > the purists. > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Oscar Zuniga >> Sent: Jul 21, 2010 7:51 AM >> To: Pietenpol List >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet >> >> > >> >> >> Tim: I have no idea what make or model of engine is on >> the 1/2-scale Air Camper, but the builder mentioned that >> it is 20HP. >> >> Full-size Piets have flown on less ;o) >> >> Oscar Zuniga >> Air Camper NX41CC >> San Antonio, TX >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple >> calendars with Hotmail. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:54 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring. I took it off, but the previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition cables are unshielded. Dan On 07/20/2010 07:56 PM, Dan P wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan P" > > This antenna needs a ground plane. There aren't any locations that are of a significant distance from the engine. > > -------- -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:08 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Wing faring? Where is that located? > >N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring. I took it off, but >the previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition >cables are unshielded. > >Dan > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:27 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 On 07/21/2010 03:19 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > Wing faring? Where is that located? Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of course! ;-) That should be fairing, with an "i." Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few more pix of N666TB at Hampton NH From: Rick Holland With all the wind resistance of a Piet I figured why retract a step? So I did a fixed one. rick On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Michael Silvius wrote: > > Jim: > > DJ's old site shows several pictures on how he did it. > http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-08-04.htm > > I am thinking potentialy you could even have a bunge on the inside so it is > self retracting though that may complicate dismount. > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Markle" > > > > Hey Mike, if you're ever there again could you please get a picture of > how > the retractable step is mounted inside the fuse? Assume it slides into > another piece of tubing but wonder how that tubing is fastened to the fuse. > I've been wrestling with that for a long time... > > > > thanks for the pictures! Someone's built a nice looking GN1 there..... > > > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:06 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep just a few days before Brodhead? The adrenalin rush must be to much for some folks to handle. Stinemetze N328X do not archive > Wing faring? Where is that located? >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of course! ;-) ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:08 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: carb rebuilder? Douwe, there is really nutt'n to it, save the big money.- Like others on here have said it's just a bunch of remove and replace stuff.- Buy the ma rvell scebler manual with the updates and the overhaul kit and fix her up. - Just be sure to get it good and cleaned out before assembly, dirt and g rime finds its way into those tiny jets and passages.- Have heard small g uitar string is good for roto-rootering them out, but haven't tried it myse lf.- Just dont grind or remove the material while cleaning. - Shad - P.S.- since I am not going to Brodhead I will go out and work on my airpl ane.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 02:21:33 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 OK, but where is it? Is it a triangular metal piece that with an inner curve that defines the cut-out on the wind center section? Trying to figure out where your antenna had been mounted. And, why did you remove it? Being antisocial again, Dan? ;-) > > >On 07/21/2010 03:19 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: >> >>Wing faring? Where is that located? > >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of course! > >;-) > >That should be fairing, with an "i." > >Dan > >do not archive -- --- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:16 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Well, I honestly want to know what Dan is referring to. What fairing (or faring) and where? >Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Description: HTML > >Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up >pretty deep just a few days before Brodhead? The adrenalin rush >must be to much for some folks to handle. > >Stinemetze >N328X >do not archive > > do not archive, apparently... -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:22 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 What's more, besides the shielding, now I want to know what a "wing fairing" is, too. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Boatright Sent: Jul 21, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Well, I honestly want to know what Dan is referring to. What fairing (or faring) and where? Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: HTML Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep just a few days before Brodhead? The adrenalin rush must be to much for some folks to handle. Stinemetze N328X do not archive ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:43 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Ah, the mysterious world or Pietenpols! :) And Tom's right, the BS does pile up. Do not archive > >What's more, besides the shielding, now I want to know what a "wing >fairing" is, too. >Tim in central TX >do not archive -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:14 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet Thanks, Wayne. That must have been it, then. do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Wayne Bressler >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 2:29 PM >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Piet meets little Piet > > >Roger Mann sells plans for the "Ultra Piet" under the Rag Wing company >name. A google search will probably yield a website and more info. >If memory serves me correctly, he uses the KAW 440 almost exclusively >in his single seat designs. The Ultra Piet is a single seat design, >and sounds similiar to what you're describing (I don't know about the >airfoils, etc). > >Wayne Bressler Jr. >Taildraggers, Inc. >taildraggersinc.com > >On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Tim Willis >wrote: > >> > >> >> I was wondering, as it looked compact and perhaps light. >> >> In 2006 I saw a fellow at Brodhead with a single place mini-air >> camper. He had BP airfoils, wings shortened by a couple of feet on >> either side, and maybe the Hstab and elevators a little shorter. >> The engine was a Kawasaki 450. It had no mufflers and was really >> noisy, but it seemed to fly just fine. He was largely ignored by >> the purists. >> ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:30 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: BS Pile-up Tom, You're right, without doubt; but look on the positive side.at least this year there isn't the conversation about Blazing Saddles and related topics. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done donutarchive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep just a few days before Brodhead? The adrenalin rush must be to much for some folks to handle. Stinemetze N328X do not archive > Wing faring? Where is that located? >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of course! ;-) ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 From: Dan Yocum Oh, Jeff was being serious - I thought he was pointing out my excellent spelling skills. N8031 has a 3 piece wing. I call that metal gap seal between the wing and the center section the fairing. Isn't that what it's called? The antenna was attached to that metal strip. Why'd I take it off? Because I don't have a radio - haven't found a need for it around here, really. I suppose I might need it when I start flying into more pancake breakfasts, but I think a hand held should suffice to talk at traffic in the pattern. Dan -- yocum@gmail.com On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Tim Willis wrote: > > What's more, besides the shielding, now I want to know what a "wing fairing" is, too. > Tim in central TX > do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Boatright > Sent: Jul 21, 2010 4:27 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 > > Well, I honestly want to know what Dan is referring to. What fairing (or faring) and where? > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Description: HTML > > Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty deep just a few days before Brodhead? The adrenalin rush must be to much for some folks to handle. > > Stinemetze > N328X > do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:59 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Well, now that THAT's settled... :) Do not archive > >Oh, Jeff was being serious - I thought he was pointing out my >excellent spelling skills. > >N8031 has a 3 piece wing. I call that metal gap seal between the >wing and the center section the fairing. Isn't that what it's >called? > >The antenna was attached to that metal strip. Why'd I take it off? >Because I don't have a radio - haven't found a need for it around >here, really. I suppose I might need it when I start flying into >more pancake breakfasts, but I think a hand held should suffice to >talk at traffic in the pattern. > >Dan > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:10 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet People Bonus Pieti, Can't make it to Brodhead! How can I contribute to Pieti Gal's college fund? Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pieti Lowell Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:02 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet People Bonus People of Piets If the old Ford is still kicking, will see you at Brodhead with. Pieti Gal to take orders for her Tee Shirts' to get her cash for Collage. I will have a Ford crank extension.with nut , allows a fit with all tapered hubs ,and steerable tail wheel ( Ken Perkins design ), proceeds going to collage fund. Pieti Lowell Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305737#305737 ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BS Pile-up From: Rick Holland Yup, like a bunch of kids on Christmas Eve (except Brodhead is even more fun). On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > Tom, > > You=92re right, without doubt; but look on the positive side=85at least t his > year there isn=92t the conversation about Blazing Saddles and related top ics=85 > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, CA > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > 20 ribs done > > donutarchive > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *TOM STINEMETZE > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:56 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 > > > *Have any of the rest of you noticed that the BS tends to pile up pretty > deep just a few days before Brodhead? The adrenalin rush must be to much > for some folks to handle.* > > > *Stinemetze* > > *N328X* > > *do not archive* > > > > Wing faring? Where is that located? > > >Why, it's a bunch of blue ribbons to tie up my bonnie brown hair, of > course! ;-) > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:35 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Riblett 612 or 613.5, and jigs too... From: Mark Roberts Hi All: Can anyone recall where the Riblett 613.5 was discussed as potentially a better airfoil for the Piet than the 612? I think I remember seeing this somewhere but I can't seem to find it in the archives. I know the 613.5 is a thicker airfoil, and I am looking for a higher lift from my wing verses the original FC-10 due to the air density here in Central California. So far I have one 613.5 and one 612 built. I have built a computer generated and CNC cut Peg Jig's for both airfoils, and I finished recently a really accurate stick cutting jig for the individual rib sticks. But, I paused the project, and am now going to pick back up again soon. Thanks for the memory help! -- Mark Roberts California Laser Etch www.california-laser.com 888-882-5015 888-882-5016 fax ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet People Bonus From: "Pieti Lowell" Gary: Contact me on my Email , (lowellcfrank@yahoo.com ),with your shirt size and I will see that you get a nice note, and Tee-shirt, from a great young engineer of the future. You will be surprised with the results of Mentoring FIRST Robot students, and how they develop into adults with brains. Pieti Lowell Can't make it to Brodhead! How can I contribute to Pieti Gal's college fund? Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive --[/quote] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305884#305884 ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:32 PM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: WX forecast Chicago And here's the weather from only 32 mi. north of Brodhead. Tomorrow Thurs.Temps ranging from 70 @ 7AM to77 @ noon Winds south @ 12 - 15 mph some possibl light rain Afternoon temps ranging from 80 - 89 by 4PM winds shifting to 19 SW around 3 Pm continued light rain with brief possible downpour. Friday- Temps ranging from 82 @ 7AM to87 @ noon Winds in the morning 13 - 15 out of the west shifting to the SW around 10AM Possible light rain in the afternoon temps 86 wind w @ 13 On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:06 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > Wednesday > Partly cloudy > HI > 88=B0 > LO > 72=B0 > A few isolated thunderstorms possible Wednesday afternoon affecting > only 10 to 20 percent of Chicago's far southern suburbs. Sunshine > mixed with cottony cumulus clouds, quite warm and fairly humid. > Wednesday's highs average 4 degrees above normal. A light, variable > large-scale wind regime allows onshore (easterly) lake breezes to > develop by afternoon. Partly cloudy Wednesday night, warm and > moderately humid. > Thursday > Thunderstorms > HI > 83=B0 > LO > 76=B0 > Extensive cloudiness, more humid. Storms capable of downpours and > gusty winds develop by afternoon affecting more than 60 percent of > the area. Heaviest downpours could produce quick 1 to 2 inches of > rain. > Friday > Mostly cloudy > HI > 97=B0 > LO > 75=B0 > Possibly hottest day of the year and potentially the hottest of the > past four years. Partly sunny, windy, hot, humid. Gusty or severe > storms afternoon and/or evening over as much as 70 percent of the > area. > Saturday > Thunderstorms > HI > 85=B0 > LO > 67=B0 > Opens humid. Clusters of showers and possible storms affect up to 60 > percent of the area. Storms settle south, exiting the area late > morning and afternoon. Cloud breaks follow. Winds shift northwest 8 > to 18 mph. > Sunday > Partly cloudy > HI > 85=B0 > LO > 66=B0 > Sun and cottony fair weather clouds, warm and less humid. Light > northeast breezes at 5 to 14 mph. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.