Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 07/24/10


Total Messages Posted: 20



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     1. 05:38 AM - Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday (Jack)
     2. 06:03 AM - Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday (Michael Silvius)
     3. 06:07 AM - Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday (Jeff Boatright)
     4. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday (Jack)
     5. 06:34 AM - Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday (Jim Markle)
     6. 07:33 AM - Another Piet builder in the making! (Piet2112)
     7. 07:33 AM - Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday (Gary Boothe)
     8. 07:38 AM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (Gary Boothe)
     9. 08:04 AM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (K5YAC)
    10. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (Jim Markle)
    11. 08:36 AM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (Jim Markle)
    12. 09:18 AM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (Tim Willis)
    13. 12:04 PM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (taildrags)
    14. 12:06 PM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (Piet2112)
    15. 02:12 PM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (Dan P)
    16. 02:51 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Dan P)
    17. 05:41 PM - Re: Another Piet builder in the making! (skellytown flyer)
    18. 07:58 PM - Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
    19. 08:39 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
    20. 11:01 PM - Crash - Long Post (kevinpurtee)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:38:53 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday
    Now clearing, nice evening last night, heavy storms overnight. Jack DSM Do not archive


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    Time: 06:03:32 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Silvius" <silvius@gwi.net>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday
    Is that a bent Piet I see in the first pix? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:38 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday Now clearing, nice evening last night, heavy storms overnight. Jack DSM Do not archive


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    Time: 06:07:13 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday
    Jack, Thanks for the photos, but what is the wreck in the first image? And why not archive? Jeff >Now clearing, nice evening last night, heavy storms overnight. >Jack >DSM >Do not archive > > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 06:26:59 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday
    Thought he may tell the list himself, but since you asked, it's Kevin Purtee's. He can most accurately provide details, but I believe he broke the left gear on takeoff. On landing it gave away completely. Within the hour, the plane was on saws horses and the gear was being welded. I would guess he will be in the air today. We are off to the other show. Jack DSM _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:07 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday


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    Time: 06:34:19 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday
    I heard Kevin Purtee had a messed up wheel, it was bent inward or just dangling or something... He circled the field a couple times then landed nice and smooth (I have no idea how he was able to do that!) and did a nice gentle ground loop and the plane just leaned down and rested on the wing tip. Word I got (and I'm sure there's more to this...) was that his landing turned what could have easily been a bad situation into a nice, minimal damage landing he walked away from. Mark C called me right after it happened but my cell coverage out here isn't too good and I was having trouble hearing everything...so I hope I at least got some of that right! JM....in Pryor Oklahoma where the weather is depressing and disappointing because I didn't get to go to BRODHEAD!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Boatright Sent: Jul 24, 2010 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday Jack, Thanks for the photos, but what is the wreck in the first image? And why not archive? Jeff Now clearing, nice evening last night, heavy storms overnight. Jack DSM Do not archive -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 07:33:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Another Piet builder in the making!
    From: "Piet2112" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    Hello everyone! My name is Curt Merdan, and I recently began my journey to Brodhead figuratively speaking. A few months back, I was talking with my wife Laura, saying that I needed to find something to do in my freetime other than surfing the internet in a endless search for nothing. Then I came up with this crazy idea of building an airplane. Laura said that would be a great idea. Wow, I got her blessing! I went back to the internet to find the perfect airplane and guess what I found. The beautiful, wood and fabric Pietenpol Aircamper. It is the perfect tribute to my heritage. I am the son of a Seamstress and Carpenter from Minnesota. I've got my plans, wood for the tail, glue, questions and motivation! Curt Merdan 817-875-5027 Flower Mound, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306140#306140


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    Time: 07:33:45 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday
    Jim, I am (symbolically, of course) crying in my beer with you! Best wishes to Kevin... Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:34 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday I heard Kevin Purtee had a messed up wheel, it was bent inward or just dangling or something... He circled the field a couple times then landed nice and smooth (I have no idea how he was able to do that!) and did a nice gentle ground loop and the plane just leaned down and rested on the wing tip. Word I got (and I'm sure there's more to this...) was that his landing turned what could have easily been a bad situation into a nice, minimal damage landing he walked away from. Mark C called me right after it happened but my cell coverage out here isn't too good and I was having trouble hearing everything...so I hope I at least got some of that right! JM....in Pryor Oklahoma where the weather is depressing and disappointing because I didn't get to go to BRODHEAD!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Boatright Sent: Jul 24, 2010 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Clearing 0730 Saturday Jack, Thanks for the photos, but what is the wreck in the first image? And why not archive? Jeff Now clearing, nice evening last night, heavy storms overnight. Jack DSM Do not archive -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 07:38:07 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Another Piet builder in the making!
    Welcome, Curt!! Where in Texas is Flower Mound? Don't forget to check out www.westcoastpiet.com. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet builder in the making! Hello everyone! My name is Curt Merdan, and I recently began my journey to Brodhead figuratively speaking. A few months back, I was talking with my wife Laura, saying that I needed to find something to do in my freetime other than surfing the internet in a endless search for nothing. Then I came up with this crazy idea of building an airplane. Laura said that would be a great idea. Wow, I got her blessing! I went back to the internet to find the perfect airplane and guess what I found. The beautiful, wood and fabric Pietenpol Aircamper. It is the perfect tribute to my heritage. I am the son of a Seamstress and Carpenter from Minnesota. I've got my plans, wood for the tail, glue, questions and motivation! Curt Merdan 817-875-5027 Flower Mound, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306140#306140


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    Time: 08:04:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Welcome Curt! Looking forward to hearing of your progress. -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306143#306143


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    Time: 08:33:25 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    MARK!!!!!! What the heck are you doing on email?????? Get to the field!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- >From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> >Sent: Jul 24, 2010 10:04 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet builder in the making! > > >Welcome Curt! Looking forward to hearing of your progress. > >-------- >Mark Chouinard >Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306143#306143 > >


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    Time: 08:36:05 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Another Piet builder in the making!
    Flower Mound is sortof just north of Dallas, maybe a bit NW. Nice area with a little airport I used to fly in and out of (NW Regional I think) nearby. There are now several Piet builders in the DFW area....now that I DON'T live in Plano anymore!!! :-) jm...Pryor, OK -----Original Message----- >From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> >Sent: Jul 24, 2010 9:37 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet builder in the making! > > >Welcome, Curt!! Where in Texas is Flower Mound? Don't forget to check out >www.westcoastpiet.com. > >Gary Boothe >Cool, CA >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion >Tail done, Fuselage on gear >20 ribs done > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112 >Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:33 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet builder in the making! > > >Hello everyone! > >My name is Curt Merdan, and I recently began my journey to Brodhead >figuratively speaking. > >A few months back, I was talking with my wife Laura, saying that I needed to >find something to do in my freetime other than surfing the internet in a >endless search for nothing. >Then I came up with this crazy idea of building an airplane. Laura said >that would be a great idea. Wow, I got her blessing! > >I went back to the internet to find the perfect airplane and guess what I >found. The beautiful, wood and fabric Pietenpol Aircamper. It is the perfect >tribute to my heritage. I am the son of a Seamstress and Carpenter from >Minnesota. > >I've got my plans, wood for the tail, glue, questions and motivation! > >Curt Merdan >817-875-5027 >Flower Mound, TX > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306140#306140 > >


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    Time: 09:18:21 AM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    Curt, Welcome. Have you looked at any Piets-- either projects or completed fliers? There are several Piets south of you-- one in Waco area(McGregor), 3 in or near Georgetown, and Oscar in San Antonio. Maybe some Dallas builders will identify themselves on the board. Tim in central TX (Georgetown) do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Piet2112 <curtdm@gmail.com> >Sent: Jul 24, 2010 9:32 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet builder in the making! > > >Hello everyone! > >My name is Curt Merdan, and I recently began my journey to Brodhead figuratively speaking. > >A few months back, I was talking with my wife Laura, saying that I needed to find something to do in my freetime other than surfing the internet in a endless search for nothing. >Then I came up with this crazy idea of building an airplane. Laura said that would be a great idea. Wow, I got her blessing! > >I went back to the internet to find the perfect airplane and guess what I found. The beautiful, wood and fabric Pietenpol Aircamper. It is the perfect tribute to my heritage. I am the son of a Seamstress and Carpenter from Minnesota. > >I've got my plans, wood for the tail, glue, questions and motivation! > >Curt Merdan >817-875-5027 >Flower Mound, TX > > ><clip>


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    Time: 12:04:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    He's a lot closer to Jim Markle and the Oklahoma builders than he is to me down here in San Antonio! Welcome to the list, Curt. -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306154#306154


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    Time: 12:06:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    From: "Piet2112" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I hope this time next year, my wife and I can make it to Brodhead and share some of our buiding experiences! Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX (10 mile final from 18R at DFW) (19 mile final from 13R at DAL) Tail Feather jig...sounds like a dance Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306156#306156


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    Time: 02:12:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    From: "Dan P" <dlplett@swko.net>
    Carl, Welcome aboard. Keep us updated. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306160#306160


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    Time: 02:51:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine)
    From: "Dan P" <dlplett@swko.net>
    That would be a fun project. Now if I didn't already have an attic full of RC airplanes --------------------. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306162#306162


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    Time: 05:41:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another Piet builder in the making!
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    Curt-that sounds great. my Daughter lives about 20 miles or less from you.I manage to get down there from time to time.I'd like to keep up with your progress.sure not many Piets up here around the Texas panhandle.hope you keep us posted with your progress. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306170#306170


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    Time: 07:58:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV


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    Time: 08:39:20 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    Looks a tiny bit wet....I suppose those flashes weren't from arc welding.... -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Mueller Sent: Jul 24, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV


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    Time: 11:01:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Crash - Long Post
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list. The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day delay due to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal. It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy. The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go" part I felt the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had struck something with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground. I powered through it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway. I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging episode. As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part of the V had been ripped loose from the mounting lug. I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground. I knew I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind. I also planned the approach to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available quickly. The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off of the runways. I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I held the left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we were going pretty slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The aircraft spun around ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a rest. There was no further incident. I will never forget the look on Jessie Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane. I was stomping on the right brake pretty hard. The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt Smith, a local, along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs. The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent. Matt, an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a lot in the 7 hours. Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right? Of course not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad and son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear was the only apparent damage. I appreciate you. Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I had wrecked the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying. Amazing. Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment failing. If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always check to see if the gear's still there before landing but I've started to do so now. I'm glad I looked. Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the welds were stressed and chose that time to fail. I did not find anything on the runway so it may have been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have ~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400 landings. I've worked the gear pretty hard. Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My before landing check now includes a visual check of "Gear down and locked." Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person. What a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they really came through and showed me how wonderful they are. I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee from TGWP. They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since I've seen the movie. It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with pride. I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010" which I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty. I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped, including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno, Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They rock. Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry. You may wanna archive this one. You guys are spectacular. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189




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