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1. 07:06 AM - Re: Crash - Long Post (K5YAC)
2. 07:57 AM - Crash - Long Post (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 09:35 AM - Re: Crash - Long Post (John Recine)
4. 09:54 AM - the video....?: Crash - Long Post (Jim Markle)
5. 11:04 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
6. 11:33 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
7. 11:45 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
8. 11:56 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
9. 12:12 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jeff Boatright)
10. 12:20 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
11. 12:34 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
12. 12:47 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (skellytown flyer)
13. 01:23 PM - model A engine (j_dunavin)
14. 04:04 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
15. 04:21 PM - Re: model A engine (Jim Markle)
16. 04:54 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Billy McCaskill)
17. 04:59 PM - Down from the heavens... (Ryan Mueller)
18. 05:22 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
19. 05:26 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Dan P)
20. 05:39 PM - Re: Down from the heavens... (H RULE)
21. 05:40 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (John Hofmann)
22. 05:41 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (H RULE)
23. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (airlion)
24. 06:40 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Pieti Lowell)
25. 07:01 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (shad bell)
26. 07:32 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Ryan Mueller)
27. 08:24 PM - Re: Lifetime Experience (jorge lizarraga)
28. 08:32 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Darrel Jones)
29. 08:32 PM - Re: Down from the heavens... (Gary Boothe)
30. 08:42 PM - Re: model A engine (j_dunavin)
31. 09:07 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (j_dunavin)
32. 09:08 PM - Pietenpol Oscars (Gary Boothe)
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
What a story Kevin... it really couldn't have turned out better. Glad you and
your ship came out ok. We saw you flying most of the day Saturday.
Hope you have a safe trip home.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
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Subject: | Crash - Long Post |
Kevin- great to hear that you and the airplane survived
to fly another day. I've heard story after story about
how folks step up to the plate when things like this
happen, and you're back in the air before you know it.
Obviously, I'm jealous because you made it to Brodhead
and I never have. If you get time in the next couple of
weeks, I'd sure like to hear about your flight up there
and back, with as much detail as you can remember. Next
year I will turn 60 (July 28) and I am hoping I will be
able to celebrate that occasion with my first flight to
Brodhead in 41CC.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
Kevin,
I saw the vid and have to say that was some great flying and landing skills on
your part. Great job in saving what could have resulted in a serious and catastrophic
event.
Just amazing!
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list.
The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day delay due
to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop
east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal.
It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy.
The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go" part I felt
the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had struck something with
the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground. I powered through
it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway.
I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong
with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging
episode.
As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear
V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part of the V had been
ripped loose from the mounting lug.
I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground. I knew
I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite
purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the
closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind. I also planned the approach
to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available
quickly. The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off
of the runways.
I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I held the
left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we were going pretty
slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The aircraft spun around
~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a
rest. There was no further incident. I will never forget the look on Jessie
Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane. I
was stomping on the right brake pretty hard.
The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt Smith, a local,
along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs. The
landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the
bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent. Matt,
an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a
lot in the 7 hours. Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right?
Of course not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad
and son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked
over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear was
the only apparent damage. I appreciate you.
Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I had wrecked
the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying. Amazing.
Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment failing.
If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this
event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always check to see if the gear's
still there before landing but I've started to do so now. I'm glad I looked.
Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the welds
were stressed and chose that time to fail. I did not find anything on the
runway so it may have been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have
~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400
landings. I've worked the gear pretty hard.
Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment
lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional
verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My before landing check now includes
a visual check of "Gear down and locked."
Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person. What
a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they really came through and
showed me how wonderful they are. I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee
from TGWP. They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since
I've seen the movie. It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with
pride. I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010"
which I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined
in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty.
I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped,
including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno,
Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people
who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They
rock. Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry.
You may wanna archive this one.
You guys are spectacular.
--------
Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | the video....?: Crash - Long Post |
Is the video available online somewhere?
-----Original Message-----
>From: John Recine <amsafetyc@aol.com>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 11:35 AM
>To: Pietenpol builders Board <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>I saw the vid and have to say that was some great flying and landing skills on
your part. Great job in saving what could have resulted in a serious and catastrophic
event.
>
>Just amazing!
>
>
>John
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:01:03
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
>
>
>Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list.
>
>The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day delay due
to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop
east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal.
It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy.
>
>The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go" part I felt
the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had struck something
with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground. I powered through
it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway.
I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong
with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging
episode.
>
>As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear
V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part of the V had been
ripped loose from the mounting lug.
>
>I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground. I knew
I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite
purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the
closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind. I also planned the
approach to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available
quickly. The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off
of the runways.
>
>I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I held the
left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we were going pretty
slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The aircraft spun around
~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a
rest. There was no further incident. I will never forget the look on Jessie
Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane.
I was stomping on the right brake pretty hard.
>
>The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt Smith, a local,
along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs.
The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the
bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent. Matt,
an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a
lot in the 7 hours. Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right?
Of course not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad
and son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked
over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear
was the only apparent damage. I appreciate you.
>
>Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I had wrecked
the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying. Amazing.
>
>Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment
failing. If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this
event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always check to see if the gear's
still there before landing but I've started to do so now. I'm glad I looked.
Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the
welds were stressed and chose that time to fail. I did not find anything on the
runway so it may have been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have
~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done
~400 landings. I've worked the gear pretty hard.
>
>Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment
lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional
verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My before landing check now includes
a visual check of "Gear down and locked."
>
>Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person. What
a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they really came through and
showed me how wonderful they are. I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee
from TGWP. They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since
I've seen the movie. It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with
pride. I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in
2010" which I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined
in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty.
>
>I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped,
including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno,
Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people
who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They
rock. Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry.
>
>You may wanna archive this one.
>
>You guys are spectacular.
>
>--------
>Kevin Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Ryan,
I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
somewhere?
Thanks,
Darrel Jones
Pfeifer Sport N154JP
Sonoma, CA
On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
> *
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser
(Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
-----Original Message-----
From: Darrel Jones
Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
Ryan,
I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
somewhere?
Thanks,
Darrel Jones
Pfeifer Sport N154JP
Sonoma, CA
On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Hi Darrel,
I'll put it up on YouTube in the next day or two....just got back. Have a
good day!
Do not archive
Ryan Mueller
Sent from my mobile device
>
> Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/D...
*
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Jim,
Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.
Darrel
On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser
(Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Darrel Jones
>
> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
This isn't the video of Kevin's adventure, though. Has that one been
uploaded yet?
Do not archive
>
>Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in
>the browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10
>minutes....
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Darrel Jones
>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
>
>
>Ryan,
>
>
>I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
>somewhere?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Darrel Jones
>
>Pfeifer Sport N154JP
>
>Sonoma, CA
>
>
>On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
>Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
>
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Not yet...I want to get clearance from the featured performer first...
Ryan Mueller
Sent from my mobile device
On Jul 25, 2010 2:14 PM, "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> wrote:
This isn't the video of Kevin's adventure, though. Has that one been
uploaded yet?
Do not archive
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Takes a LONG time...
>
> > Ryan,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
> > somewhere?
> >...
>
> > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
> >
> >
> >
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Just watched the "Memories" video. I thought the audio on my computer
was malfunctioning! Just the thunder and downpour. Need to get some
floats on those Piets.
Thanks,
Darrel Jones
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
ain't it the truth! I spent nearly an hour trying to download 2 different programs
this old computer told me I had to have to watch the video. then I thought
maybe it wasn't working right till I saw the post.kinda dis-appointing! guess
the joke's on me.I'll go out and work on the airplane.Raymond
do not archive
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where would the best place to start be, concerning the model A?
I would like to know where i can find cores, parts, build logs, conversions, ect.
So I can try and get a full picture. Just in case we decide that the model
A is what we want to go with.
I heard one up at Brodhead.... it was soo cool!!
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then my computer
started thundering and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't expect
it!
Actually, I love it. Really makes you feel like you're there. Interesting effect.
jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Brodhead!!! :-)
-----Original Message-----
>From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
>
>
>Jim,
>
>Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.
>
>Darrel
>
>On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>>
>> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser
(Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Darrel Jones
>>
>> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
>>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Subject: | Re: model A engine |
If I was doing it again (instead of buying one already built) I would figure out a way to get with Lowell Frank and/or Ken Perkins. There are others but I would find out everything you can from those two. Do a search of the Matronics Archives (http://www.matronics.com/searching/) for anything from Lowell. ("Pieti Lowell"). Ken doesn't get on this list but he also knows a LOT about what's going on with Model A's.
There won't be a book you can just check out but these folks and some others and
the original Pietenpol plans....that will be a great start!
That may have very well been Ken's Model A you heard...what a sweet sound. If
you're interested in more, I did an "engine start to engine stop" video of a ride
Ken gave me several years ago (he enjoyed it so much he went out and bought
a new computer so he could watch it!)...I would be glad to send you a copy on
CD.
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: j_dunavin <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 3:23 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: model A engine
>
>
>where would the best place to start be, concerning the model A?
>I would like to know where i can find cores, parts, build logs, conversions, ect.
So I can try and get a full picture. Just in case we decide that the model
A is what we want to go with.
>I heard one up at Brodhead.... it was soo cool!!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306250#306250
>
>
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Subject: | Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) |
Dan, sell the RC planes... it will clear up space in the attic, and it will help
fund your purchase of the plans for the 1:1 scale, or your first order of wood
and T-88. Get busy building, man!
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section done, ribs coming very soon!
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tailfeathers almost done
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Subject: | Down from the heavens... |
This is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70zh8s_6fU
Ryan
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
Sorry for the troubles with the video. Now that we are home I've had a
chance to put it up on Youtube. It is an example of the storms we camped in
on Friday night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OayCWX5REXg
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>wrote:
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then
> my computer started thundering and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't
> expect it!
>
> Actually, I love it. Really makes you feel like you're there. Interesting
> effect.
>
> jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Brodhead!!! :-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
> >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene
> Rambo)
> >
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.
> >
> >Darrel
> >
> >On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> >>
> >> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the
> browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: Darrel Jones
> >>
> >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
> >>
> >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene
> Rambo)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) |
Billy
You got it right about needing to sell the RC airplanes. Every now and then I
build another one for something to do. Fly it a few times then up in the attic
it goes.
I considered building a Piet then I came across a really nice one for sale a few
weeks ago. I missed out on the adventure and challenge of building and went
straight to the enjoyment of flying. :D
--------
Dan Plett
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Subject: | Re: Down from the heavens... |
Holy crap!I have never, ever banked my GN-1 Aircamper at that steep an angl
e.I'd =0Abe to afraid she would go into a spin and that wouldn't be good fl
ying at that =0Aheight.Looked like there was never a problem though.Loved t
he screems!!!great =0Astuff!!Thanks.=0A=0A-do not archive=0A=0A=0A_______
_________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>=0ATo:
Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7
:58:49 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Down from the heavens...=0A=0AThis is
what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol: =0A=0Ah
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
Axel's landing was a thing of beauty.
"The pond Axel the pond's the safest place!"
There were a bunch of us positioned in case any emergency were to befell
him.
"it just means the world to him you care....They're good people Axel!"
I myself was ready to smack him with a two-by-four in case It was
necessary.
I feel blessed to be a part of this group. Weather kept the Cub in the
hangar and the rains at night did not dampen the fun. This is not the
same event it was ten years ago. Since 1998 or so, with the growth of
this list, a new breed of Pietenpol builder has come forth and some
beautiful machines have been hatched. This year we added Dan Helsper's
and Kevin's, I mean Axel's, ships to that list. I also have found some
of my best friends are those I only see once or twice a year but for
whom I have great respect and tend to love like a brother. My eyes water
a bit, when we all leave, for some reason. It was great to add Kevin and
his new bride as well as the Chouinard family among others to the friend
list. I will add some pictures and comments after I get a charge back on
my camera.
However, this gentleman would like to have the last word on Kevin's
situation:
http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100026
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:01 AM, kevinpurtee wrote:
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members
of the list.
>
> The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day
delay due to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an
attempted ground loop east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip
but the damage was minimal. It didn't make me happy but it was not a
tragedy.
>
> The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go"
part I felt the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had
struck something with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet
ground. I powered through it and managed to avoid going into the corn
field to the left of the runway. I thought to myself, "For goodness
sake (or something like that), what's wrong with my ability to control
this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging episode.
>
> As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left
landing gear V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part
of the V had been ripped loose from the mounting lug.
>
> I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the
ground. I knew I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same
direction with a definite purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear
and then landed on one of the closed runways to take advantage of a
direct head wind. I also planned the approach to take me in the
vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available quickly. The
people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off of the
runways.
>
> I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I
held the left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we
were going pretty slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The
aircraft spun around ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground
and the aircraft came to a rest. There was no further incident. I will
never forget the look on Jessie Mueller's face as I was careening toward
her and Ryan's brand new airplane. I was stomping on the right brake
pretty hard.
>
> The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt
Smith, a local, along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the
necessary repairs. The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the
bungee cross strut tab on the bottom of the V had pulled out, and the
bungee cross strut was bent. Matt, an amazingly talented and
knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a lot in the 7 hours.
Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right? Of course
not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad and
son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people
looked over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the
landing gear was the only apparent damage. I appreciate you.
>
> Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I
had wrecked the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying.
Amazing.
>
> Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front
attachment failing. If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from
the rear lug this event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always
check to see if the gear's still there before landing but I've started
to do so now. I'm glad I looked. Anyway, the V attach lugs failed
because I hit something or because the welds were stressed and chose
that time to fail. I did not find anything on the runway so it may have
been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have ~140 hours on the
plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400 landings.
I've worked the gear pretty hard.
>
> Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight
those attachment lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and
have a professional verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My
before landing check now includes a visual check of "Gear down and
locked."
>
> Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in
person. What a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they
really came through and showed me how wonderful they are. I have been
nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee from TGWP. They had to explain the
reference to me since it's been years since I've seen the movie. It is
quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with pride. I was
presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010" which
I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined
in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty.
>
> I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone
who helped, including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob
Busch, Ernie Moreno, Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest
of the dozens of people who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and
Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They rock. Sounds like an acceptance
speech - sorry.
>
> You may wanna archive this one.
>
> You guys are spectacular.
>
> --------
> Kevin Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) |
A free plane wash with every visit,how nice.=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gma
il.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, July 25, 2010 8:22:
09 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of G
ene Rambo)=0A=0ASorry for the troubles with the video. Now that we are home
I've had a chance to =0Aput it up on Youtube. It is an example of the stor
ms we camped in on Friday =0Anight: =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v
=OayCWX5REXg=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jim Markle <jim_
m Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A>=0A>I did the same....then started
it a third time and forgot about it...then my =0A>computer started thunderi
ng and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't expect =0A>it!=0A>=0A>Actua
lly, I love it. -Really makes you feel like you're there. -Interesting
=0A>effect.=0A>=0A>jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Bro
dhead!!! :-)=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>>From: Darrel Jon
es <wd6bor@vom.com>=0A>>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM=0A>>To: pietenpol-list@m
atronics.com=0A>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (cour
arrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>=0A>>=0A>=0A>>Jim,=0A>>=0A>>Thanks. I thought t
he download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.=0A>>=0A>>Darrel=0A>>
=0A>>On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:=0A>=0A>>> --> -Pietenpol-Li
st message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>>>
Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the
=0A>>>browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes..
..=0A>>>=0A>>> -----Original Message-----=0A>>>=0A>>> From: Darrel Jones=0A
>>>=0A>>> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM=0A>>>=0A>>> To: pietenpol-list@matroni
cs.com=0A>>>=0A>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (co
urtesy of Gene =0ARambo)=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>
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Subject: | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 |
----- Original Message ----
From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 4:19:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65
Wing faring? Where is that located?
>
>N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring. I took it off, but
>the previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition
>cables are unshielded.
>
>Dan
>
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
Kevin,
Welcome to my club.
Just as I turned the corner after landing,I spotted you taking that final left
turn at 28 ft over my head, I stopped and whipped out my camera , snapped a perfect
shot through my cabanes just to the left of the Ford radiator, you were
about 10 Ft off the turf, with wheel snugged up under like a trick pilot showing
off , and as you administered a perfect, lame duck landing, I proudly lowered
my surprise shot of the day to my lap, and to my astonishment the two camera
batteries had sped to my lap without my knowledge just pry or to the speedy
camera work.
Sorry Kevin
By the way, I see you got a few new drain holes at the trailing edge of the wing,
that is the good news.
Pieti Lowell
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!!- Wish I could have been there th
is year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol pa
radise".- Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the U
nited States Corvair-force.- It's ok though you should have at least 10-1
5 mph advantage on the rest of them.
-
Shad
Lt.- Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or $20 to
see a crash like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8>Ryan
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!! Wish I could have been there this
> year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol
> paradise". Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the
> United States Corvair-force. It's ok though you should have at least 10-15
> mph advantage on the rest of them.
>
> Shad
> Lt. Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Lifetime Experience |
that engine looks great congrat sooner we have another flyship seyou jorge
from hanford.
--- On Fri, 7/23/10, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lifetime Experience
All,
Yesterday was a learning experience I shall never forget or top. It brought
tears to my eyes.=C2- My good friend Tom Wottreng assembled my C-85 with
me.=C2- What a knowledgeable man and a good guy.=C2- I=99ve atta
ched a couple of pictures so as to not clutter the list.=C2- Next week wh
en I=99m home I will update my site with more shots.
Jack
DSM
=C2-
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
Kevin looked so cool, calm and collected during the whole thing. I
especially liked the leisurely loop right in front of the camera.
Couldn't have planned it better. Very professional!
Typical of those Corvair Piet pilots.
Darrel
On 7/25/2010 7:31 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or
> $20 to see a crash like this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
>
> Ryan
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Subject: | Down from the heavens... |
Ryan / Jess,
Congratulations to BOTH of you!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Down from the heavens...
This is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70zh8s_6fU
Ryan
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Subject: | Re: model A engine |
That's defiantly a start.
And yes it was Ken's piet. I double checked my pictures against the west coast
piet library.
I just can't believe that it has enough power to weight ratio, but when I talked
to the taller guy wiping it down on Sat. He seemed to indicate that, though
it wasn't a fast climber it had plenty of guts, for two.
He did say that it got a little hot in the summer time, but sure was nice in the
fall:)
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Subject: | Re: Crash - Long Post |
WOW super good landing! I'm not sure that my normal landings in the 172 look as
good as that :o
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Subject: | Pietenpol Oscars |
My votes:
Best Dramatic Film of the Year - The Great Axel Purtee, by Jess Mueller -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
Best Comedy Film of the Year - Hitler's Tribute to Corvairs, by John Hoffman
- http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100026
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or $20 to
see a crash like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8> Ryan
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!! Wish I could have been there this
year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol
paradise". Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the
United States Corvair-force. It's ok though you should have at least 10-15
mph advantage on the rest of them.
Shad
Lt. Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET
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