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     2. 07:57 AM - Crash - Long Post (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 09:35 AM - Re: Crash - Long Post (John Recine)
     4. 09:54 AM - the video....?: Crash - Long Post (Jim Markle)
     5. 11:04 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
     6. 11:33 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
     7. 11:45 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
     8. 11:56 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
     9. 12:12 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jeff Boatright)
    10. 12:20 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
    11. 12:34 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
    12. 12:47 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (skellytown flyer)
    13. 01:23 PM - model A engine (j_dunavin)
    14. 04:04 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
    15. 04:21 PM - Re: model A engine (Jim Markle)
    16. 04:54 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Billy McCaskill)
    17. 04:59 PM - Down from the heavens... (Ryan Mueller)
    18. 05:22 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
    19. 05:26 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Dan P)
    20. 05:39 PM - Re: Down from the heavens... (H RULE)
    21. 05:40 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (John Hofmann)
    22. 05:41 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (H RULE)
    23. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (airlion)
    24. 06:40 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Pieti Lowell)
    25. 07:01 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (shad bell)
    26. 07:32 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Ryan Mueller)
    27. 08:24 PM - Re: Lifetime Experience (jorge lizarraga)
    28. 08:32 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Darrel Jones)
    29. 08:32 PM - Re: Down from the heavens... (Gary Boothe)
    30. 08:42 PM - Re: model A engine (j_dunavin)
    31. 09:07 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (j_dunavin)
    32. 09:08 PM - Pietenpol Oscars (Gary Boothe)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      What a story Kevin... it really couldn't have turned out better.  Glad you and
      your ship came out ok.  We saw you flying most of the day Saturday.
      
      Hope you have a safe trip home.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306207#306207
      
      
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| Subject:  | Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      
      Kevin- great to hear that you and the airplane survived
      to fly another day.  I've heard story after story about
      how folks step up to the plate when things like this
      happen, and you're back in the air before you know it.
      
      Obviously, I'm jealous because you made it to Brodhead
      and I never have.  If you get time in the next couple of
      weeks, I'd sure like to hear about your flight up there
      and back, with as much detail as you can remember.  Next
      year I will turn 60 (July 28) and I am hoping I will be
      able to celebrate that occasion with my first flight to
      Brodhead in 41CC.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      Kevin, 
      
      I saw the vid and have to say that was some great flying and landing skills on
      your part. Great job in saving what could have resulted in a serious and catastrophic
      event. 
      
      Just amazing!
      
      
      John 
      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
      
      
      Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list.
      
      The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days.  1.0 day delay due
      to weather.  The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop
      east of Kansas City.  I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal.
      It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy.
      
      The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead.  During the "go" part I felt
      the aircraft yaw sharply to the left.  It felt like I had struck something with
      the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground.  I powered through
      it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway.
      I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong
      with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging
      episode.
      
      As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear
      V was hanging from the rear attach point.  The front part of the V had been
      ripped loose from the mounting lug.  
      
      I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground.  I knew
      I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite
      purpose.  I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the
      closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind.  I also planned the approach
      to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available
      quickly.  The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off
      of the runways.  
      
      I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing.  I held the
      left wing up as long as possible.  When the left gear dug in we were going pretty
      slow.  I flipped the ignition and battery off.  The aircraft spun around
      ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a
      rest.  There was no further incident.  I will never forget the look on Jessie
      Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane.  I
      was stomping on the right brake pretty hard.  
      
      The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead.  Matt Smith, a local,
      along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs.  The
      landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the
      bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent.  Matt,
      an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a
      lot in the 7 hours.  Unbelievable.  You know he wouldn't take any money, right?
      Of course not.  I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad
      and son.  In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked
      over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear was
      the only apparent damage.  I appreciate you.
      
      Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers.  I told them all that I had wrecked
      the day before.  They all said, "I know" and we went flying.  Amazing.
      
      Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment failing.
      If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this
      event may have gone very, very badly.  I don't always check to see if the gear's
      still there before landing but I've started to do so now.  I'm glad I looked.
      Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the welds
      were stressed and chose that time to fail.  I did not find anything on the
      runway so it may have been the latter.  As I've mentioned here before I have
      ~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400
      landings.  I've worked the gear pretty hard.
      
      Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment
      lugs better.  I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional
      verify the integrity of my welds on that side.  My before landing check now includes
      a visual check of "Gear down and locked."
      
      Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person.  What
      a great group of people!  Then, with the wreck, they really came through and
      showed me how wonderful they are.  I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      from TGWP.  They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since
      I've seen the movie.  It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with
      pride.  I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010"
      which I will frame and hang in a prominent place.  I have now been enshrined
      in the Hitler video.  A thing of beauty.
      
      I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped,
      including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno,
      Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people
      who helped.  Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum.  They
      rock.  Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry.
      
      You may wanna archive this one.  
      
      You guys are spectacular.
      
      --------
      Kevin Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189
      
      
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| Subject:  | the video....?: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      Is the video available online somewhere?
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: John Recine <amsafetyc@aol.com>
      >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 11:35 AM
      >To: Pietenpol builders Board <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
      >
      >
      >Kevin, 
      >
      >I saw the vid and have to say that was some great flying and landing skills on
      your part. Great job in saving what could have resulted in a serious and catastrophic
      event. 
      >
      >Just amazing!
      >
      >
      >John 
      >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      >Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:01:03 
      >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
      >
      >
      >Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list.
      >
      >The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days.  1.0 day delay due
      to weather.  The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop
      east of Kansas City.  I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal.
      It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy.
      >
      >The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead.  During the "go" part I felt
      the aircraft yaw sharply to the left.  It felt like I had struck something
      with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground.  I powered through
      it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway.
      I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong
      with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging
      episode.
      >
      >As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear
      V was hanging from the rear attach point.  The front part of the V had been
      ripped loose from the mounting lug.  
      >
      >I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground.  I knew
      I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite
      purpose.  I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the
      closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind.  I also planned the
      approach to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available
      quickly.  The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off
      of the runways.  
      >
      >I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing.  I held the
      left wing up as long as possible.  When the left gear dug in we were going pretty
      slow.  I flipped the ignition and battery off.  The aircraft spun around
      ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a
      rest.  There was no further incident.  I will never forget the look on Jessie
      Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane. 
      I was stomping on the right brake pretty hard.  
      >
      >The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead.  Matt Smith, a local,
      along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs. 
      The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the
      bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent.  Matt,
      an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a
      lot in the 7 hours.  Unbelievable.  You know he wouldn't take any money, right?
      Of course not.  I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad
      and son.  In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked
      over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear
      was the only apparent damage.  I appreciate you.
      >
      >Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers.  I told them all that I had wrecked
      the day before.  They all said, "I know" and we went flying.  Amazing.
      >
      >Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment
      failing.  If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this
      event may have gone very, very badly.  I don't always check to see if the gear's
      still there before landing but I've started to do so now.  I'm glad I looked.
      Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the
      welds were stressed and chose that time to fail.  I did not find anything on the
      runway so it may have been the latter.  As I've mentioned here before I have
      ~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done
      ~400 landings.  I've worked the gear pretty hard.
      >
      >Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment
      lugs better.  I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional
      verify the integrity of my welds on that side.  My before landing check now includes
      a visual check of "Gear down and locked."
      >
      >Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person.  What
      a great group of people!  Then, with the wreck, they really came through and
      showed me how wonderful they are.  I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      from TGWP.  They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since
      I've seen the movie.  It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with
      pride.  I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in
      2010" which I will frame and hang in a prominent place.  I have now been enshrined
      in the Hitler video.  A thing of beauty.
      >
      >I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped,
      including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno,
      Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people
      who helped.  Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum.  They
      rock.  Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry.
      >
      >You may wanna archive this one.  
      >
      >You guys are spectacular.
      >
      >--------
      >Kevin Purtee
      >NX899KP
      >Austin/Georgetown, TX
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) | 
      
      Ryan,
      
      I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line 
      somewhere?
      
      Thanks,
      Darrel Jones
      Pfeifer Sport N154JP
      Sonoma, CA
      
      On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
      > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
      >
      > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene  Rambo) | 
      
      
      Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser
      (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
      
      -----Original Message-----
      
      From: Darrel Jones 
      
      Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
      
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
      
      
      Ryan,
      
      
      I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
      somewhere?
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      Darrel Jones
      
      Pfeifer Sport N154JP
      
      Sonoma, CA
      
      
      On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
      Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
      
      
        http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
      
      
       href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
       href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
       href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) | 
      
      Hi Darrel,
      
      I'll put it up on YouTube in the next day or two....just got back. Have a
      good day!
      
      Do not archive
      
      Ryan Mueller
      Sent from my mobile device
      
      
      >
      > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
      >
      > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/D...
      
      *
      
       href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
       href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
       href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene  Rambo) | 
      
      
      Jim,
      
      Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.
      
      Darrel
      
      On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
      > -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >
      > Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser
      (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      >
      > From: Darrel Jones
      >
      > Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
      >
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
      >
      >
      >    
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene   Rambo) | 
      
      
      This isn't the video of Kevin's adventure, though. Has that one been 
      uploaded yet?
      
      Do not archive
      
      >
      >Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in 
      >the browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 
      >minutes....
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >
      >From: Darrel Jones
      >
      >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
      >
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
      >
      >
      >Ryan,
      >
      >
      >I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
      >somewhere?
      >
      >
      >Thanks,
      >
      >Darrel Jones
      >
      >Pfeifer Sport N154JP
      >
      >Sonoma, CA
      >
      >
      >On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
      >Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
      >
      >
      >   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) | 
      
      Not yet...I want to get clearance from the featured performer first...
      
      Ryan Mueller
      Sent from my mobile device
      
      On Jul 25, 2010 2:14 PM, "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> wrote:
      
      
      This isn't the video of Kevin's adventure, though. Has that one been
      uploaded yet?
      
      Do not archive
      
      > jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      > >
      > > Takes a LONG time...
      >
      > > Ryan,
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line
      > > somewhere?
      > >...
      >
      > > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts!
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene   Rambo) | 
      
      
      Just watched the "Memories" video. I thought the audio on my computer 
      was malfunctioning! Just the thunder and downpour. Need to get some 
      floats on those Piets.
      
      Thanks,
      Darrel Jones
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) | 
      
      
      ain't it the truth! I spent nearly an hour trying to download 2 different programs
      this old computer told me I had to have to watch the video. then I thought
      maybe it wasn't working right till I saw the post.kinda dis-appointing! guess
      the joke's on me.I'll go out and work on the airplane.Raymond  
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306246#306246
      
      
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      where would the best place to start be, concerning the model A?
      I would like to know where i can find cores, parts, build logs, conversions, ect.
      So I can try and get a full picture. Just in case we decide that the model
      A is what we want to go with. 
      I heard one up at Brodhead.... it was soo cool!!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306250#306250
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene   Rambo) | 
      
      
      I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then my computer
      started thundering and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't expect
      it!
      
      Actually, I love it.  Really makes you feel like you're there.  Interesting effect.
      
      jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Brodhead!!! :-)
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
      >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene  Rambo)
      >
      >
      >Jim,
      >
      >Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.
      >
      >Darrel
      >
      >On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
      >> -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >>
      >> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser
      (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >>
      >> From: Darrel Jones
      >>
      >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
      >>
      >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>
      >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>    
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: model A engine | 
      
      
      If I was doing it again (instead of buying one already built) I would figure out a way to get with Lowell Frank and/or Ken Perkins.  There are others but I would find out everything you can from those two.  Do a search of the Matronics Archives (http://www.matronics.com/searching/) for anything from Lowell. ("Pieti Lowell").  Ken doesn't get on this list but he also knows a LOT about what's going on with Model A's.
      
      There won't be a book you can just check out but these folks and some others and
      the original Pietenpol plans....that will be a great start!
      
      That may have very well been Ken's Model A you heard...what a sweet sound.  If
      you're interested in more, I did an "engine start to engine stop" video of a ride
      Ken gave me several years ago (he enjoyed it so much he went out and bought
      a new computer so he could watch it!)...I would be glad to send you a copy on
      CD.
      
      jm
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: j_dunavin <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
      >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 3:23 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: model A engine
      >
      >
      >where would the best place to start be, concerning the model A?
      >I would like to know where i can find cores, parts, build logs, conversions, ect.
      So I can try and get a full picture. Just in case we decide that the model
      A is what we want to go with. 
      >I heard one up at Brodhead.... it was soo cool!!
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306250#306250
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) | 
      
      
      Dan, sell the RC planes... it will clear up space in the attic, and it will help
      fund your purchase of the plans for the 1:1 scale, or your first order of wood
      and T-88.  Get busy building, man!
      
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section done, ribs coming very soon!
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tailfeathers almost done
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306259#306259
      
      
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| Subject:  | Down from the heavens... | 
      
      This is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol:
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70zh8s_6fU
      
      Ryan
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) | 
      
      Sorry for the troubles with the video. Now that we are home I've had a
      chance to put it up on Youtube. It is an example of the storms we camped in
      on Friday night:
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OayCWX5REXg
      
      On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>wrote:
      
      > jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >
      > I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then
      > my computer started thundering and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't
      > expect it!
      >
      > Actually, I love it.  Really makes you feel like you're there.  Interesting
      > effect.
      >
      > jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Brodhead!!! :-)
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > >From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
      > >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM
      > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene
      >  Rambo)
      > >
      > >
      > >Jim,
      > >
      > >Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.
      > >
      > >Darrel
      > >
      > >On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
      > >> -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<
      > jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      > >>
      > >> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the
      > browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes....
      > >>
      > >> -----Original Message-----
      > >>
      > >> From: Darrel Jones
      > >>
      > >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM
      > >>
      > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > >>
      > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene
      > Rambo)
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) | 
      
      
      Billy
      You got it right about needing to sell the RC airplanes.  Every now and then I
      build another one for something to do.  Fly it a few times then up in the attic
      it goes.  
      
      I considered building a Piet then I came across a really nice one for sale a few
      weeks ago.  I missed out on the adventure and challenge of building and went
      straight to the enjoyment of flying.  :D
      
      --------
      Dan Plett
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306262#306262
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_0804_166.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Down from the heavens... | 
      
      Holy crap!I have never, ever banked my GN-1 Aircamper at that steep an angl
      e.I'd =0Abe to afraid she would go into a spin and that wouldn't be good fl
      ying at that =0Aheight.Looked like there was never a problem though.Loved t
      he screems!!!great =0Astuff!!Thanks.=0A=0A-do not archive=0A=0A=0A_______
      _________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>=0ATo:
       Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7
      :58:49 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Down from the heavens...=0A=0AThis is 
      what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol: =0A=0Ah
      ========  =0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      Axel's landing was a thing of beauty.
      
      "The pond Axel the pond's the safest place!"
      
      There were a bunch of us positioned in case any emergency were to befell 
      him.
      
      "it just means the world to him you care....They're good people Axel!"
      
      I myself was ready to smack him with a two-by-four in case It was 
      necessary.
      
      I feel blessed to be a part of this group. Weather kept the Cub in the 
      hangar and the rains at night did not dampen the fun. This is not the 
      same event it was ten years ago. Since 1998 or so, with the growth of 
      this list, a new breed of Pietenpol builder has come forth and some 
      beautiful machines have been hatched. This year we added Dan Helsper's 
      and Kevin's, I mean Axel's, ships to that list. I also have found some 
      of my best friends are those I only see once or twice a year but for 
      whom I have great respect and tend to love like a brother. My eyes water 
      a bit, when we all leave, for some reason. It was great to add Kevin and 
      his new bride as well as the Chouinard family among others to the friend 
      list. I will add some pictures and comments after I get a charge back on 
      my camera.
      
      However, this gentleman would like to have the last word on Kevin's 
      situation:
      
      http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100026
      
      -john-
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2424 American Lane
      Madison, WI 53704
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:01 AM, kevinpurtee wrote:
      
      <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      > 
      > Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members 
      of the list.
      > 
      > The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days.  1.0 day 
      delay due to weather.  The only issue I had during the trip was an 
      attempted ground loop east of Kansas City.  I dragged the right wing tip 
      but the damage was minimal.  It didn't make me happy but it was not a 
      tragedy.
      > 
      > The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead.  During the "go" 
      part I felt the aircraft yaw sharply to the left.  It felt like I had 
      struck something with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet 
      ground.  I powered through it and managed to avoid going into the corn 
      field to the left of the runway.  I thought to myself, "For goodness 
      sake (or something like that), what's wrong with my ability to control 
      this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging episode.
      > 
      > As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left 
      landing gear V was hanging from the rear attach point.  The front part 
      of the V had been ripped loose from the mounting lug.  
      > 
      > I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the 
      ground.  I knew I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same 
      direction with a definite purpose.  I waited for the pattern to clear 
      and then landed on one of the closed runways to take advantage of a 
      direct head wind.  I also planned the approach to take me in the 
      vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available quickly.  The 
      people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off of the 
      runways.  
      > 
      > I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing.  I 
      held the left wing up as long as possible.  When the left gear dug in we 
      were going pretty slow.  I flipped the ignition and battery off.  The 
      aircraft spun around ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground 
      and the aircraft came to a rest.  There was no further incident.  I will 
      never forget the look on Jessie Mueller's face as I was careening toward 
      her and Ryan's brand new airplane.  I was stomping on the right brake 
      pretty hard.  
      > 
      > The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead.  Matt 
      Smith, a local, along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the 
      necessary repairs.  The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the 
      bungee cross strut tab on the bottom of the V had pulled out, and the 
      bungee cross strut was bent.  Matt, an amazingly talented and 
      knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a lot in the 7 hours.  
      Unbelievable.  You know he wouldn't take any money, right?  Of course 
      not.  I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad and 
      son.  In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people 
      looked over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the 
      landing gear was the only apparent damage.  I appreciate you.
      > 
      > Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers.  I told them all that I 
      had wrecked the day before.  They all said, "I know" and we went flying. 
       Amazing.
      > 
      > Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front 
      attachment failing.  If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from 
      the rear lug this event may have gone very, very badly.  I don't always 
      check to see if the gear's still there before landing but I've started 
      to do so now.  I'm glad I looked.  Anyway, the V attach lugs failed 
      because I hit something or because the welds were stressed and chose 
      that time to fail.  I did not find anything on the runway so it may have 
      been the latter.  As I've mentioned here before I have ~140 hours on the 
      plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400 landings. 
       I've worked the gear pretty hard.
      > 
      > Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight 
      those attachment lugs better.  I'll also take the right gear off and 
      have a professional verify the integrity of my welds on that side.  My 
      before landing check now includes a visual check of "Gear down and 
      locked."
      > 
      > Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in 
      person.  What a great group of people!  Then, with the wreck, they 
      really came through and showed me how wonderful they are.  I have been 
      nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee from TGWP.  They had to explain the 
      reference to me since it's been years since I've seen the movie.  It is 
      quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with pride.  I was 
      presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010" which 
      I will frame and hang in a prominent place.  I have now been enshrined 
      in the Hitler video.  A thing of beauty.
      > 
      > I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone 
      who helped, including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob 
      Busch, Ernie Moreno, Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest 
      of the dozens of people who helped.  Thanks especially to Ryan and 
      Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum.  They rock.  Sounds like an acceptance 
      speech - sorry.
      > 
      > You may wanna archive this one.  
      > 
      > You guys are spectacular.
      > 
      > --------
      > Kevin Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) | 
      
      A free plane wash with every visit,how nice.=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A
      =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gma
      il.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, July 25, 2010 8:22:
      09 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of G
      ene Rambo)=0A=0ASorry for the troubles with the video. Now that we are home
       I've had a chance to =0Aput it up on Youtube. It is an example of the stor
      ms we camped in on Friday =0Anight: =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v
      =OayCWX5REXg=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jim Markle <jim_
      m Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A>=0A>I did the same....then started 
      it a third time and forgot about it...then my =0A>computer started thunderi
      ng and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't expect =0A>it!=0A>=0A>Actua
      lly, I love it. -Really makes you feel like you're there. -Interesting 
      =0A>effect.=0A>=0A>jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Bro
      dhead!!! :-)=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>>From: Darrel Jon
      es <wd6bor@vom.com>=0A>>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM=0A>>To: pietenpol-list@m
      atronics.com=0A>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (cour
      arrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>=0A>>=0A>=0A>>Jim,=0A>>=0A>>Thanks. I thought t
      he download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.=0A>>=0A>>Darrel=0A>>
      =0A>>On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:=0A>=0A>>> --> -Pietenpol-Li
      st message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>>>
       Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the 
      =0A>>>browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes..
      ..=0A>>>=0A>>> -----Original Message-----=0A>>>=0A>>> From: Darrel Jones=0A
      >>>=0A>>> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM=0A>>>=0A>>> To: pietenpol-list@matroni
      cs.com=0A>>>=0A>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (co
      urtesy of Gene =0ARambo)=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>
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| Subject:  | Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 | 
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
      Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 4:19:35 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65
      
      
      Wing faring? Where is that located?
      
      
      >
      >N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring.  I took it off, but 
      >the previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition 
      >cables are unshielded.
      >
      >Dan
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      Kevin,
      Welcome to my club.
      Just as I turned the corner after landing,I spotted you taking that final left
      turn at 28 ft over my head, I stopped and whipped out my camera , snapped a perfect
      shot through my cabanes just to the left of the Ford radiator, you were
      about 10 Ft off the turf, with wheel snugged up under like a trick pilot showing
      off , and as you administered a perfect, lame duck landing, I proudly lowered
      my surprise shot of the day to my lap, and to my astonishment the two camera
      batteries had sped to my lap without my knowledge just pry or to the speedy
      camera work.
      Sorry Kevin
      By the way, I see you got a few new drain holes at the trailing edge of the wing,
      that is the good news.
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306269#306269
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!!- Wish I could have been there th
      is year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol pa
      radise".- Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the U
      nited States Corvair-force.- It's ok though you should have at least 10-1
      5 mph advantage on the rest of them.
      -
      Shad
      Lt.- Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or $20 to
      see a crash like this:
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
      
      <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8>Ryan
      
      On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!!  Wish I could have been there this
      > year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol
      > paradise".  Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the
      > United States Corvair-force.  It's ok though you should have at least 10-15
      > mph advantage on the rest of them.
      >
      > Shad
      > Lt.  Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lifetime Experience | 
      
      that engine looks great congrat sooner we have another flyship seyou jorge 
      from hanford.
      
      --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lifetime Experience
      
      
      All,
      Yesterday was a learning experience I shall never forget or top. It brought
       tears to my eyes.=C2- My good friend Tom Wottreng assembled my C-85 with
       me.=C2- What a knowledgeable man and a good guy.=C2- I=99ve atta
      ched a couple of pictures so as to not clutter the list.=C2- Next week wh
      en I=99m home I will update my site with more shots.
      Jack
      DSM
      =C2-
      =C2-=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      
      Kevin looked so cool, calm and collected during the whole thing. I 
      especially liked the leisurely loop right in front of the camera. 
      Couldn't have planned it better. Very professional!
      
      Typical of those Corvair Piet pilots.
      
      Darrel
      
      On 7/25/2010 7:31 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
      > Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or 
      > $20 to see a crash like this:
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
      >
      > Ryan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Down from the heavens... | 
      
      Ryan / Jess,
      
      
      Congratulations to BOTH of you!!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      Do not archive
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
      Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:59 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Down from the heavens...
      
      
      This is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol:
      
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70zh8s_6fU
      
      
      Ryan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: model A engine | 
      
      
      That's defiantly a start.
      And yes it was Ken's piet. I double checked my pictures against the west coast
      piet library. 
      I just can't believe that it has enough power to weight ratio, but when I talked
      to the taller guy wiping it down on Sat. He seemed to indicate that, though
      it wasn't a fast climber it had plenty of guts, for two. 
      He did say that it got a little hot in the summer time, but sure was nice in the
      fall:)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306286#306286
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crash - Long Post | 
      
      
      WOW super good landing! I'm not sure that my normal landings in the 172 look as
      good as that  :o
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306287#306287
      
      
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| Subject:  | Pietenpol Oscars | 
      
      My votes:
      
      
      Best Dramatic Film of the Year - The Great Axel Purtee, by Jess Mueller -
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
      
      
      Best Comedy Film of the Year - Hitler's Tribute to Corvairs, by John Hoffman
      - http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100026
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
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      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
      Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:32 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post
      
      
      Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or $20 to
      see a crash like this:
      
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8
      
      
       <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8> Ryan
      
      On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      
      That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!!  Wish I could have been there this
      year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol
      paradise".  Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the
      United States Corvair-force.  It's ok though you should have at least 10-15
      mph advantage on the rest of them.
      
      
      Shad
      
      Lt.  Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET
      
      
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