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Sun 07/25/10


Total Messages Posted: 32



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     1. 07:06 AM - Re: Crash - Long Post (K5YAC)
     2. 07:57 AM - Crash - Long Post (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 09:35 AM - Re: Crash - Long Post (John Recine)
     4. 09:54 AM - the video....?: Crash - Long Post (Jim Markle)
     5. 11:04 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
     6. 11:33 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
     7. 11:45 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
     8. 11:56 AM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
     9. 12:12 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jeff Boatright)
    10. 12:20 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
    11. 12:34 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Darrel Jones)
    12. 12:47 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (skellytown flyer)
    13. 01:23 PM - model A engine (j_dunavin)
    14. 04:04 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Jim Markle)
    15. 04:21 PM - Re: model A engine (Jim Markle)
    16. 04:54 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Billy McCaskill)
    17. 04:59 PM - Down from the heavens... (Ryan Mueller)
    18. 05:22 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (Ryan Mueller)
    19. 05:26 PM - Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine) (Dan P)
    20. 05:39 PM - Re: Down from the heavens... (H RULE)
    21. 05:40 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (John Hofmann)
    22. 05:41 PM - Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) (H RULE)
    23. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 (airlion)
    24. 06:40 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Pieti Lowell)
    25. 07:01 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (shad bell)
    26. 07:32 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Ryan Mueller)
    27. 08:24 PM - Re: Lifetime Experience (jorge lizarraga)
    28. 08:32 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (Darrel Jones)
    29. 08:32 PM - Re: Down from the heavens... (Gary Boothe)
    30. 08:42 PM - Re: model A engine (j_dunavin)
    31. 09:07 PM - Re: Crash - Long Post (j_dunavin)
    32. 09:08 PM - Pietenpol Oscars (Gary Boothe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:06:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    What a story Kevin... it really couldn't have turned out better. Glad you and your ship came out ok. We saw you flying most of the day Saturday. Hope you have a safe trip home. -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306207#306207


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    Time: 07:57:31 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Crash - Long Post
    Kevin- great to hear that you and the airplane survived to fly another day. I've heard story after story about how folks step up to the plate when things like this happen, and you're back in the air before you know it. Obviously, I'm jealous because you made it to Brodhead and I never have. If you get time in the next couple of weeks, I'd sure like to hear about your flight up there and back, with as much detail as you can remember. Next year I will turn 60 (July 28) and I am hoping I will be able to celebrate that occasion with my first flight to Brodhead in 41CC. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1


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    Time: 09:35:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    From: "John Recine" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Kevin, I saw the vid and have to say that was some great flying and landing skills on your part. Great job in saving what could have resulted in a serious and catastrophic event. Just amazing! John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list. The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day delay due to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal. It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy. The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go" part I felt the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had struck something with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground. I powered through it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway. I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging episode. As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part of the V had been ripped loose from the mounting lug. I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground. I knew I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind. I also planned the approach to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available quickly. The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off of the runways. I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I held the left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we were going pretty slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The aircraft spun around ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a rest. There was no further incident. I will never forget the look on Jessie Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane. I was stomping on the right brake pretty hard. The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt Smith, a local, along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs. The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent. Matt, an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a lot in the 7 hours. Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right? Of course not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad and son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear was the only apparent damage. I appreciate you. Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I had wrecked the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying. Amazing. Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment failing. If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always check to see if the gear's still there before landing but I've started to do so now. I'm glad I looked. Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the welds were stressed and chose that time to fail. I did not find anything on the runway so it may have been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have ~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400 landings. I've worked the gear pretty hard. Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My before landing check now includes a visual check of "Gear down and locked." Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person. What a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they really came through and showed me how wonderful they are. I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee from TGWP. They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since I've seen the movie. It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with pride. I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010" which I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty. I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped, including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno, Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They rock. Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry. You may wanna archive this one. You guys are spectacular. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189


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    Time: 09:54:15 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: the video....?: Crash - Long Post
    Is the video available online somewhere? -----Original Message----- >From: John Recine <amsafetyc@aol.com> >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 11:35 AM >To: Pietenpol builders Board <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post > > >Kevin, > >I saw the vid and have to say that was some great flying and landing skills on your part. Great job in saving what could have resulted in a serious and catastrophic event. > >Just amazing! > > >John >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> >Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:01:03 >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post > > >Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list. > >The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day delay due to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal. It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy. > >The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go" part I felt the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had struck something with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground. I powered through it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway. I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging episode. > >As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part of the V had been ripped loose from the mounting lug. > >I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground. I knew I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind. I also planned the approach to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available quickly. The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off of the runways. > >I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I held the left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we were going pretty slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The aircraft spun around ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a rest. There was no further incident. I will never forget the look on Jessie Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane. I was stomping on the right brake pretty hard. > >The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt Smith, a local, along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs. The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent. Matt, an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a lot in the 7 hours. Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right? Of course not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad and son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear was the only apparent damage. I appreciate you. > >Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I had wrecked the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying. Amazing. > >Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment failing. If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always check to see if the gear's still there before landing but I've started to do so now. I'm glad I looked. Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the welds were stressed and chose that time to fail. I did not find anything on the runway so it may have been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have ~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400 landings. I've worked the gear pretty hard. > >Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My before landing check now includes a visual check of "Gear down and locked." > >Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person. What a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they really came through and showed me how wonderful they are. I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee from TGWP. They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since I've seen the movie. It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with pride. I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010" which I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty. > >I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped, including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno, Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They rock. Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry. > >You may wanna archive this one. > >You guys are spectacular. > >-------- >Kevin Purtee >NX899KP >Austin/Georgetown, TX > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189 > >


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    Time: 11:04:32 AM PST US
    From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    Ryan, I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line somewhere? Thanks, Darrel Jones Pfeifer Sport N154JP Sonoma, CA On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV > * > > > *


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    Time: 11:33:53 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes.... -----Original Message----- From: Darrel Jones Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) Ryan, I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line somewhere? Thanks, Darrel Jones Pfeifer Sport N154JP Sonoma, CA On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:45:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Hi Darrel, I'll put it up on YouTube in the next day or two....just got back. Have a good day! Do not archive Ryan Mueller Sent from my mobile device > > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/D... * href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution *


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    Time: 11:56:13 AM PST US
    From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    Jim, Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run. Darrel On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes.... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Darrel Jones > > Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) > > >


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    Time: 12:12:44 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    This isn't the video of Kevin's adventure, though. Has that one been uploaded yet? Do not archive > >Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in >the browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 >minutes.... > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Darrel Jones > >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) > > >Ryan, > > >I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line >somewhere? > > >Thanks, > >Darrel Jones > >Pfeifer Sport N154JP > >Sonoma, CA > > >On 7/24/2010 7:58 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: >Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! > > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV > >


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    Time: 12:20:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Not yet...I want to get clearance from the featured performer first... Ryan Mueller Sent from my mobile device On Jul 25, 2010 2:14 PM, "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> wrote: This isn't the video of Kevin's adventure, though. Has that one been uploaded yet? Do not archive > jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > > > Takes a LONG time... > > > Ryan, > > > > > > > > I'm having a little trouble downloading the video file. Is it on-line > > somewhere? > >... > > > Memories from Brodhead 2010, near and dear to our hearts! > > > > > > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/DSCN2970.MOV > >


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    Time: 12:34:23 PM PST US
    From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    Just watched the "Memories" video. I thought the audio on my computer was malfunctioning! Just the thunder and downpour. Need to get some floats on those Piets. Thanks, Darrel Jones


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    Time: 12:47:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    ain't it the truth! I spent nearly an hour trying to download 2 different programs this old computer told me I had to have to watch the video. then I thought maybe it wasn't working right till I saw the post.kinda dis-appointing! guess the joke's on me.I'll go out and work on the airplane.Raymond do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306246#306246


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    Time: 01:23:26 PM PST US
    Subject: model A engine
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    where would the best place to start be, concerning the model A? I would like to know where i can find cores, parts, build logs, conversions, ect. So I can try and get a full picture. Just in case we decide that the model A is what we want to go with. I heard one up at Brodhead.... it was soo cool!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306250#306250


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    Time: 04:04:38 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then my computer started thundering and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't expect it! Actually, I love it. Really makes you feel like you're there. Interesting effect. jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Brodhead!!! :-) -----Original Message----- >From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com> >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) > > >Jim, > >Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run. > >Darrel > >On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com> >> >> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes.... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Darrel Jones >> >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM >> >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 04:21:52 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: model A engine
    If I was doing it again (instead of buying one already built) I would figure out a way to get with Lowell Frank and/or Ken Perkins. There are others but I would find out everything you can from those two. Do a search of the Matronics Archives (http://www.matronics.com/searching/) for anything from Lowell. ("Pieti Lowell"). Ken doesn't get on this list but he also knows a LOT about what's going on with Model A's. There won't be a book you can just check out but these folks and some others and the original Pietenpol plans....that will be a great start! That may have very well been Ken's Model A you heard...what a sweet sound. If you're interested in more, I did an "engine start to engine stop" video of a ride Ken gave me several years ago (he enjoyed it so much he went out and bought a new computer so he could watch it!)...I would be glad to send you a copy on CD. jm -----Original Message----- >From: j_dunavin <j_dunavin@hotmail.com> >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 3:23 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: model A engine > > >where would the best place to start be, concerning the model A? >I would like to know where i can find cores, parts, build logs, conversions, ect. So I can try and get a full picture. Just in case we decide that the model A is what we want to go with. >I heard one up at Brodhead.... it was soo cool!! > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306250#306250 > >


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    Time: 04:54:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine)
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    Dan, sell the RC planes... it will clear up space in the attic, and it will help fund your purchase of the plans for the 1:1 scale, or your first order of wood and T-88. Get busy building, man! Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section done, ribs coming very soon! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tailfeathers almost done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306259#306259


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    Time: 04:59:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Down from the heavens...
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    This is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70zh8s_6fU Ryan


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    Time: 05:22:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Sorry for the troubles with the video. Now that we are home I've had a chance to put it up on Youtube. It is an example of the storms we camped in on Friday night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OayCWX5REXg On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>wrote: > jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then > my computer started thundering and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't > expect it! > > Actually, I love it. Really makes you feel like you're there. Interesting > effect. > > jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Brodhead!!! :-) > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com> > >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene > Rambo) > > > > > >Jim, > > > >Thanks. I thought the download might have hung up. I'll just let it run. > > > >Darrel > > > >On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote: > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle< > jim_markle@mindspring.com> > >> > >> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the > browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes.... > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> From: Darrel Jones > >> > >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM > >> > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene > Rambo) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:26:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: R/C Piet Kit on RCGroups For Sale (Not Mine)
    From: "Dan P" <dlplett@swko.net>
    Billy You got it right about needing to sell the RC airplanes. Every now and then I build another one for something to do. Fly it a few times then up in the attic it goes. I considered building a Piet then I came across a really nice one for sale a few weeks ago. I missed out on the adventure and challenge of building and went straight to the enjoyment of flying. :D -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306262#306262 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_0804_166.jpg


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    Time: 05:39:35 PM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Down from the heavens...
    Holy crap!I have never, ever banked my GN-1 Aircamper at that steep an angl e.I'd =0Abe to afraid she would go into a spin and that wouldn't be good fl ying at that =0Aheight.Looked like there was never a problem though.Loved t he screems!!!great =0Astuff!!Thanks.=0A=0A-do not archive=0A=0A=0A_______ _________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>=0ATo: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7 :58:49 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Down from the heavens...=0A=0AThis is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol: =0A=0Ah ======== =0A


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    Time: 05:40:48 PM PST US
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    Axel's landing was a thing of beauty. "The pond Axel the pond's the safest place!" There were a bunch of us positioned in case any emergency were to befell him. "it just means the world to him you care....They're good people Axel!" I myself was ready to smack him with a two-by-four in case It was necessary. I feel blessed to be a part of this group. Weather kept the Cub in the hangar and the rains at night did not dampen the fun. This is not the same event it was ten years ago. Since 1998 or so, with the growth of this list, a new breed of Pietenpol builder has come forth and some beautiful machines have been hatched. This year we added Dan Helsper's and Kevin's, I mean Axel's, ships to that list. I also have found some of my best friends are those I only see once or twice a year but for whom I have great respect and tend to love like a brother. My eyes water a bit, when we all leave, for some reason. It was great to add Kevin and his new bride as well as the Chouinard family among others to the friend list. I will add some pictures and comments after I get a charge back on my camera. However, this gentleman would like to have the last word on Kevin's situation: http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100026 -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:01 AM, kevinpurtee wrote: <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Hi - I'd like to recount my mishap at Brodhead on Friday for members of the list. > > The trip up: I made it from Austin to Brodhead in 3.5 days. 1.0 day delay due to weather. The only issue I had during the trip was an attempted ground loop east of Kansas City. I dragged the right wing tip but the damage was minimal. It didn't make me happy but it was not a tragedy. > > The mishap: I was doing a touch and go at Brodhead. During the "go" part I felt the aircraft yaw sharply to the left. It felt like I had struck something with the left gear or that the tire caught in the wet ground. I powered through it and managed to avoid going into the corn field to the left of the runway. I thought to myself, "For goodness sake (or something like that), what's wrong with my ability to control this thing?" thinking back to the wingtip dragging episode. > > As I continued around the pattern I looked out and saw that my left landing gear V was hanging from the rear attach point. The front part of the V had been ripped loose from the mounting lug. > > I flew over the field trying to get everyone's attention on the ground. I knew I had succeeded when I saw everyone running in the same direction with a definite purpose. I waited for the pattern to clear and then landed on one of the closed runways to take advantage of a direct head wind. I also planned the approach to take me in the vicinity of the group so that there was rescue available quickly. The people on the ground did a great job clearing everyone off of the runways. > > I turned off the fuel on short final and performed a wheel landing. I held the left wing up as long as possible. When the left gear dug in we were going pretty slow. I flipped the ignition and battery off. The aircraft spun around ~180 degrees, the left wing tip touched the ground and the aircraft came to a rest. There was no further incident. I will never forget the look on Jessie Mueller's face as I was careening toward her and Ryan's brand new airplane. I was stomping on the right brake pretty hard. > > The repair: if you've got to wreck a Piet do it at Brodhead. Matt Smith, a local, along with his Dad and son, spent 7 hours making the necessary repairs. The landing gear V needed the lugs reattached, the bungee cross strut tab on the bottom of the V had pulled out, and the bungee cross strut was bent. Matt, an amazingly talented and knowledgeable A&P/IA did great work and taught me a lot in the 7 hours. Unbelievable. You know he wouldn't take any money, right? Of course not. I cannot express the depth of my gratitude to Matt, his Dad and son. In addition to Matt and his family, several knowledgeable people looked over the rest of the aircraft for me and verified that the landing gear was the only apparent damage. I appreciate you. > > Today: flew ~3 hours and took ~8 passengers. I told them all that I had wrecked the day before. They all said, "I know" and we went flying. Amazing. > > Cause: the yaw I felt on my touch and go was the left gear V front attachment failing. If I had not noticed that the gear was hanging from the rear lug this event may have gone very, very badly. I don't always check to see if the gear's still there before landing but I've started to do so now. I'm glad I looked. Anyway, the V attach lugs failed because I hit something or because the welds were stressed and chose that time to fail. I did not find anything on the runway so it may have been the latter. As I've mentioned here before I have ~140 hours on the plane since the first flight last September and I've done ~400 landings. I've worked the gear pretty hard. > > Lessons Learned & Things I'll Start Doing: I'll darn sure preflight those attachment lugs better. I'll also take the right gear off and have a professional verify the integrity of my welds on that side. My before landing check now includes a visual check of "Gear down and locked." > > Good things: I was delighted to meet many of my internet friends in person. What a great group of people! Then, with the wreck, they really came through and showed me how wonderful they are. I have been nicknamed Kevin "Axel" Purtee from TGWP. They had to explain the reference to me since it's been years since I've seen the movie. It is quite funny and I shall wear my new nickname with pride. I was presented an award for "The shortest landing at Brodhead in 2010" which I will frame and hang in a prominent place. I have now been enshrined in the Hitler video. A thing of beauty. > > I'm going to miss some of you and I'm sorry, but thanks to everyone who helped, including Jack Phillips, Gary at Brodhead, Lowell Frank, Rob Busch, Ernie Moreno, Mike Cuy, Don Emch, John Hoffman and all the rest of the dozens of people who helped. Thanks especially to Ryan and Jessie Mueller and Dan Yocum. They rock. Sounds like an acceptance speech - sorry. > > You may wanna archive this one. > > You guys are spectacular. > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306189#306189 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:41:14 PM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of Gene Rambo)
    A free plane wash with every visit,how nice.=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gma il.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, July 25, 2010 8:22: 09 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (courtesy of G ene Rambo)=0A=0ASorry for the troubles with the video. Now that we are home I've had a chance to =0Aput it up on Youtube. It is an example of the stor ms we camped in on Friday =0Anight: =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OayCWX5REXg=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jim Markle <jim_ m Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A>=0A>I did the same....then started it a third time and forgot about it...then my =0A>computer started thunderi ng and lightning....a bit creepy when you don't expect =0A>it!=0A>=0A>Actua lly, I love it. -Really makes you feel like you're there. -Interesting =0A>effect.=0A>=0A>jm....in Hampton CT....beautiful area but sure ain't Bro dhead!!! :-)=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>>From: Darrel Jon es <wd6bor@vom.com>=0A>>Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:55 PM=0A>>To: pietenpol-list@m atronics.com=0A>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (cour arrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>=0A>>=0A>=0A>>Jim,=0A>>=0A>>Thanks. I thought t he download might have hung up. I'll just let it run.=0A>>=0A>>Darrel=0A>> =0A>>On 7/25/2010 11:25 AM, Jim Markle wrote:=0A>=0A>>> --> -Pietenpol-Li st message posted by: Jim Markle<jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>>> Takes a LONG time to download but it will download....mine played in the =0A>>>browser (Firefox) window after it downloaded, took about 10 minutes.. ..=0A>>>=0A>>> -----Original Message-----=0A>>>=0A>>> From: Darrel Jones=0A >>>=0A>>> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM=0A>>>=0A>>> To: pietenpol-list@matroni cs.com=0A>>>=0A>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2010: Memories (co urtesy of Gene =0ARambo)=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A> >=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>============= ============0A>st" target="_blank">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A>============0A>h ttp://forums.matronics.com=0A>============0A>le, List Admin.=0A>="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>=== ===== =0A


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    Time: 06:12:57 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65
    ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu> Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 4:19:35 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: IGNITION SHIELDING Needed on A-65 Wing faring? Where is that located? > >N8031 had an antenna mounted to the wing faring. I took it off, but >the previous owner had no problem with it there and the ignition >cables are unshielded. > >Dan >


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    Time: 06:40:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Kevin, Welcome to my club. Just as I turned the corner after landing,I spotted you taking that final left turn at 28 ft over my head, I stopped and whipped out my camera , snapped a perfect shot through my cabanes just to the left of the Ford radiator, you were about 10 Ft off the turf, with wheel snugged up under like a trick pilot showing off , and as you administered a perfect, lame duck landing, I proudly lowered my surprise shot of the day to my lap, and to my astonishment the two camera batteries had sped to my lap without my knowledge just pry or to the speedy camera work. Sorry Kevin By the way, I see you got a few new drain holes at the trailing edge of the wing, that is the good news. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306269#306269


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    Time: 07:01:03 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!!- Wish I could have been there th is year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol pa radise".- Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the U nited States Corvair-force.- It's ok though you should have at least 10-1 5 mph advantage on the rest of them. - Shad Lt.- Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:32:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or $20 to see a crash like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8>Ryan On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: > That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!! Wish I could have been there this > year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol > paradise". Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the > United States Corvair-force. It's ok though you should have at least 10-15 > mph advantage on the rest of them. > > Shad > Lt. Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 08:24:12 PM PST US
    From: jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Lifetime Experience
    that engine looks great congrat sooner we have another flyship seyou jorge from hanford. --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: From: Jack <jack@textors.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lifetime Experience All, Yesterday was a learning experience I shall never forget or top. It brought tears to my eyes.=C2- My good friend Tom Wottreng assembled my C-85 with me.=C2- What a knowledgeable man and a good guy.=C2- I=99ve atta ched a couple of pictures so as to not clutter the list.=C2- Next week wh en I=99m home I will update my site with more shots. Jack DSM =C2- =C2-=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:32:08 PM PST US
    From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    Kevin looked so cool, calm and collected during the whole thing. I especially liked the leisurely loop right in front of the camera. Couldn't have planned it better. Very professional! Typical of those Corvair Piet pilots. Darrel On 7/25/2010 7:31 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or > $20 to see a crash like this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8 > > Ryan


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    Time: 08:32:20 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Down from the heavens...
    Ryan / Jess, Congratulations to BOTH of you!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Down from the heavens... This is what happens when you let Mike Cuy fly your wife in your Pietenpol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70zh8s_6fU Ryan


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    Time: 08:42:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: model A engine
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    That's defiantly a start. And yes it was Ken's piet. I double checked my pictures against the west coast piet library. I just can't believe that it has enough power to weight ratio, but when I talked to the taller guy wiping it down on Sat. He seemed to indicate that, though it wasn't a fast climber it had plenty of guts, for two. He did say that it got a little hot in the summer time, but sure was nice in the fall:) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306286#306286


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    Time: 09:07:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crash - Long Post
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    WOW super good landing! I'm not sure that my normal landings in the 172 look as good as that :o Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306287#306287


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    Time: 09:08:11 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Pietenpol Oscars
    My votes: Best Dramatic Film of the Year - The Great Axel Purtee, by Jess Mueller - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8 Best Comedy Film of the Year - Hitler's Tribute to Corvairs, by John Hoffman - http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100026 Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crash - Long Post Kevin gave his consent, so here it is. People in Wichita pay $15 or $20 to see a crash like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-lwcgop-8> Ryan On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: That hitler parady was a gutt buster!!!! Wish I could have been there this year, and may you all have a fun and safe flight home from "pietenpol paradise". Look out Kevin and Randy the furor is looking for you and the United States Corvair-force. It's ok though you should have at least 10-15 mph advantage on the rest of them. Shad Lt. Crank Snapper U.S.Corvair-force RET " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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