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1. 03:32 AM - Re: GN-1 (TriScout)
2. 04:48 AM - Re: Re: Single strand of bungee (Dan Yocum)
3. 05:33 AM - Re: Glass Cowling Pics (Ben Charvet)
4. 05:48 AM - Glass Cowlings (Ben Charvet)
5. 06:02 AM - Re: Glass Cowlings (Jim Markle)
6. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: Texas TACOs to Brodhead- 2011 (Ben Charvet)
7. 06:08 AM - Re: Glass Cowlings (Ryan Mueller)
8. 07:08 AM - Re: Single strand of bungee (kevinpurtee)
9. 07:24 AM - Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge (hvandervoo@aol.com)
11. 09:15 AM - Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge (kevinpurtee)
12. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge (Tim Willis)
13. 11:00 AM - Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (j_dunavin)
14. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (Ryan Mueller)
15. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: GN-1 ()
16. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (Gary Boothe)
17. 05:03 PM - Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (Pieti Lowell)
18. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (Ryan Mueller)
19. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (Jeff Boatright)
20. 07:46 PM - Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby (Pieti Lowell)
21. 09:41 PM - Re: Poplar? Spruce? (Mark Roberts)
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Thank Guys..
I've been watching Barnstormers. I'll be monitoring this site as well incase something
crops up.
Ler
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| Subject: | Re: Single strand of bungee |
Kevin,
Did that 1/8" cable actually hold?
When the prior owner of N8031 redid the bungees the 1/8" cable broke
when he released the last wrap. Luckily, the plane was blocked up under
the fuselage, so no damage was done. He replaced the safety cable with
3/16" or 1/4" cable. Something pretty sturdy.
Dan
On 08/04/2010 04:49 PM, kevinpurtee wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "kevinpurtee"<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Rick - I just wrapped a piece of 1/8 control cable around the two bungee retaining
tubes and swaged it. I zip tie it up out of the way for aesthetics.
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Glass Cowling Pics |
I never actually weighed it. I'm sure it weighs between 5 and 10
pounds, but I needed the weight on the nose anyway.
Ben
On 8/5/2010 3:15 PM, brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com wrote:
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> Ben how much does your beautiful cowling weigh??
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> Brian
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> SLC-UT
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> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben
> Charvet
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:47 PM
> *To:* Pietenpol list
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Glass Cowling Pics
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I think this is the nicest Piet cowling I've ever seen. Anybody know
whose it is?
Ben Charvet
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| Subject: | Re: Glass Cowlings |
Randy Bruce (according to the lettering on the side: Captain Buck Nekkd) built
it but he doesn't own it any more. A real artist/craftsman and quite a character.
Now lives over by Larry Williams in Arkansas....
He's a good guy and would probably be glad to explain how he did the cowling.
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 6, 2010 7:47 AM
>To: pietenpol list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Glass Cowlings
>
>I think this is the nicest Piet cowling I've ever seen. Anybody know
>whose it is?
>
>Ben Charvet
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| Subject: | Re: Texas TACOs to Brodhead- 2011 |
At least you have electric start...
Ben
>
> Hi Rick - fuel tank is per the plans. When I first filled it it took 11 gallons.
9.5 flowed out at climb attitude. I burn ~5.5 gph depending on weight and
speed. That's 1.7 hours until flame out and 1.2 until reserves (is that right
CFIs? Have trouble remembering between faa and army). Anyway, that gives
me 90 mile legs with no winds. I plan 70-80 miles to be on the safe side. It's
a lot of stops and a pain in the butt. I do not deny it. I would like to
have 3 more gallons. May try to rig that up for long trips.
>
> Hi Hans - Would love to have you, man!
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> --------
> Kevin Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Glass Cowlings |
It now belongs to a gentleman named Eddie Wojtecki in Stratford, Ontario,
having been imported from the US. It was N28LT, and now wears the
registration C-GLPA:
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/C-GLPA.html
http://www.recreationalflying.net/forum/just-landed/46272-just-landed.html
Bill Church photographed it at the Brussels fly-in in '07:
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=314
And a few more shots @ WestCoastPiet:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/new_page_47.htm
For what it's worth. :P
Ryan
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>wrote:
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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> Randy Bruce (according to the lettering on the side: Captain Buck Nekkd)
> built it but he doesn't own it any more. A real artist/craftsman and quite
> a character.
>
> Now lives over by Larry Williams in Arkansas....
>
> He's a good guy and would probably be glad to explain how he did the
> cowling.
>
> jm
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> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Aug 6, 2010 7:47 AM
> >To: pietenpol list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Glass Cowlings
> >
> >I think this is the nicest Piet cowling I've ever seen. Anybody know
> >whose it is?
> >
> >Ben Charvet
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| Subject: | Re: Single strand of bungee |
Hi Dan - yeah, it held. Probably a wise idea to increase the size of the cable,
though, particularly for people using the single length of bungee.
Kevin
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Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge |
Critter's Lodge? Hey, now-! That one is about an hour
closer to me than Reklaw and a month earlier in the year.
I'm going to investigate!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge |
I am game, just 80 miles
Might fly out Friday afternoon with a return on Saturday
Start planning
Hans
NX15KV
Waller, TX
-----Original Message-----
From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 5:09 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge
mil>
I won't make Reklaw. Got a school that I can't get out of. If by some mi
racle
hey cancel it I'll be there.
However, the Critter's Lodge fly-in in Centerville is coming up in late
eptember. If any of you close by can make that it would be fun. They've
got
ood and toilets and maybe even showers. Shelley's bringing the camp kitch
en
nd will feed you. If you don't want to camp it would be a great day trip
and
he'll still feed you. Oscar, Hans, HH Piet Guy, Steve Ruse (good weekend
camp
uting for you). I'm just thinkin'...
Axel
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X899KP
ustin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge |
Oscar, Hans and Any Other Interested Parties - Here's what I know:
website - http://critterslodge.org/
dates 24-26 Sep, rain date 10/1
airport TE01
I've got camping spots 25, 26 & 27 for me and two other friends. If you decide
to camp it'd be neat if you could get near those spots. It's $5. If you get
in touch with him now that should improve your chances for site selection.
If you'll let me know for sure what your plans are as we get closer Shelley will
provision to feed you.
And you can still do Reklaw:)
Kevin
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Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge |
Sorry, this was on the 2nd page. It explains all.
-----Original Message-----
>From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>Sent: Aug 6, 2010 12:15 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Texas/Oklahoma Piets, Reklaw and Critter's Lodge
>
>
>Oscar, Hans and Any Other Interested Parties - Here's what I know:
>
>website - http://critterslodge.org/
>dates 24-26 Sep, rain date 10/1
>airport TE01
>
>I've got camping spots 25, 26 & 27 for me and two other friends. If you decide
to camp it'd be neat if you could get near those spots. It's $5. If you get
in touch with him now that should improve your chances for site selection.
>
>If you'll let me know for sure what your plans are as we get closer Shelley will
provision to feed you.
>
>And you can still do Reklaw:)
>
>Kevin
>
>--------
>Kevin Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307782#307782
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
> The last trip to The Pietenpol fly-in, I carried the following. 22 gal of fuel,two
passengers, 2 sleeping bags 2 packed bags for 2, tool/ spare parts 30 Lbs,
tent, 5 quarts oil, 2 gal H2O.
> Keep in mind that I have the short Piet with 612 wing. Clipped 2 Ft.
> This very same Piet I have flown with three wing foils, 4 engines. from a Ford
to a Werner(347 Lbs plus 3 gal of oil)With no wing position change.
> The Piet will take a 250 Lb passenger or with wing position change a 300 Lb Pilot
and a small weight passenger.
> Pieti Lowell
Wow Lowell
All that in a Pietenpol? Which engine do you have?
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
I call BS. I want to see a picture of all that stuffed in the airplane. :)
(j/k) but really, I want to see a picture of that :P
Ryan
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On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:00 PM, j_dunavin <j_dunavin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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> > The last trip to The Pietenpol fly-in, I carried the following. 22 gal of
> fuel,two passengers, 2 sleeping bags 2 packed bags for 2, tool/ spare parts
> 30 Lbs, tent, 5 quarts oil, 2 gal H2O.
> > Keep in mind that I have the short Piet with 612 wing. Clipped 2 Ft.
> > This very same Piet I have flown with three wing foils, 4 engines. from a
> Ford to a Werner(347 Lbs plus 3 gal of oil)With no wing position change.
> > The Piet will take a 250 Lb passenger or with wing position change a 300
> Lb Pilot and a small weight passenger.
> > Pieti Lowell
>
>
> Wow Lowell
> All that in a Pietenpol? Which engine do you have?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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I don't know where you are locaed but there is a guy in Virginia with a banged
up GN-1. I think I saw it on Barnstormers.
Rodney Hall
---- TriScout <apfelcyber@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Thank Guys..
>
> I've been watching Barnstormers. I'll be monitoring this site as well incase
something crops up.
>
> Ler
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307743#307743
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
Wish I said that..
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby
I call BS. I want to see a picture of all that stuffed in the airplane. :)
(j/k) but really, I want to see a picture of that :P
Ryan
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On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:00 PM, j_dunavin <j_dunavin@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The last trip to The Pietenpol fly-in, I carried the following. 22 gal of
fuel,two passengers, 2 sleeping bags 2 packed bags for 2, tool/ spare parts
30 Lbs, tent, 5 quarts oil, 2 gal H2O.
> Keep in mind that I have the short Piet with 612 wing. Clipped 2 Ft.
> This very same Piet I have flown with three wing foils, 4 engines. from a
Ford to a Werner(347 Lbs plus 3 gal of oil)With no wing position change.
> The Piet will take a 250 Lb passenger or with wing position change a 300
Lb Pilot and a small weight passenger.
> Pieti Lowell
Wow Lowell
All that in a Pietenpol? Which engine do you have?
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
I now am using a Ford B swinging a Lambert wood prop 76 X 47 at 2200 RPM.
The front cockpit of the Pietenpol has a large cubic feet of space. Plus ,with
a passenger her lap can accommodate two sleeping bags, her feet are resting on
the tool bag and behind it is the tent .A very uncomfortable ride for a passenger.I
only need to fly 40 miles to Brodhead. Most of the times she returns either
Via auto or other means, I guess that is the reason that no passengers return
to Palmyra with me.
I have no controls in the front cockpit area, giving more usable space
The fuel is in the wing center section and front cowl area. Extra oil is used in
the Ford pan And of course we all know where the 2 gal of water is stored.
A new designed radiator will allow more area for cooling and 10 square feet of
wing area for better lifting heavy loads.
Also-- for those that think that the impossible is impossible I am installing a
Ford starting device that requires no electrical circuits and will be activated
while the pilot is in the cockpit, and without hand prop assistance.
By the way heavy loads test the landing gear, either vertical or horizontal as
we find out very quickly.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
You didn't account for the two packed bags for two yet... ;)
Ryan
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
>
> I now am using a Ford B swinging a Lambert wood prop 76 X 47 at 2200 RPM.
> The front cockpit of the Pietenpol has a large cubic feet of space. Plus
> ,with a passenger her lap can accommodate two sleeping bags, her feet are
> resting on the tool bag and behind it is the tent .A very uncomfortable ride
> for a passenger.I only need to fly 40 miles to Brodhead. Most of the times
> she returns either Via auto or other means, I guess that is the reason that
> no passengers return to Palmyra with me.
> I have no controls in the front cockpit area, giving more usable space
> The fuel is in the wing center section and front cowl area. Extra oil is
> used in the Ford pan And of course we all know where the 2 gal of water is
> stored.
> A new designed radiator will allow more area for cooling and 10 square feet
> of wing area for better lifting heavy loads.
> Also-- for those that think that the impossible is impossible I am
> installing a Ford starting device that requires no electrical circuits and
> will be activated while the pilot is in the cockpit, and without hand prop
> assistance.
> By the way heavy loads test the landing gear, either vertical or horizontal
> as we find out very quickly.
> Pieti Lowell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307815#307815
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
Dang, Lowell! I love the experimentation! Please send pix of the Ford
self-commencer if it works out!
Jeff
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>
>I now am using a Ford B swinging a Lambert wood prop 76 X 47 at 2200 RPM.
>The front cockpit of the Pietenpol has a large cubic feet of space.
>Plus ,with a passenger her lap can accommodate two sleeping bags,
>her feet are resting on the tool bag and behind it is the tent .A
>very uncomfortable ride for a passenger.I only need to fly 40 miles
>to Brodhead. Most of the times she returns either Via auto or other
>means, I guess that is the reason that no passengers return to
>Palmyra with me.
>I have no controls in the front cockpit area, giving more usable space
>The fuel is in the wing center section and front cowl area. Extra
>oil is used in the Ford pan And of course we all know where the 2
>gal of water is stored.
>A new designed radiator will allow more area for cooling and 10
>square feet of wing area for better lifting heavy loads.
>Also-- for those that think that the impossible is impossible I am
>installing a Ford starting device that requires no electrical
>circuits and will be activated while the pilot is in the cockpit,
>and without hand prop assistance.
>By the way heavy loads test the landing gear, either vertical or
>horizontal as we find out very quickly.
>Pieti Lowell
>
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper vs. Fly Baby |
Sorry Ryan, they are stowed on the top of the tent and tool bag , with a little
room above, up to the fuel tank, she keeps them in place with her feet pushing
forward.
Check with the Pietenpolie Girl, she is the front passenger, If verification is
required, you must donate a small amount of cash for a T-Shirt that will be available
soon for her collage,ME. Degree.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Poplar? Spruce? |
Hey Jim!
Thanks for the input. Just to refresh your memory, I was the guy that came
to the Piet gathering in California and brought the 2 Riblett Jigs(612 and
the 613.5). You and I chatted at the table after lunch for a while. My wife
is still encouraging me to build the piet, but it's been almost a year with
no income (other than Unemployment) so building is a bit slow right now.
However, I have been trying to start a business (so far not too
successfully!) with a partner here in Central California, and he and his Dad
own a specialty wood store. This wood store stocks so many different kinds
of wood that most of them I have never heard of. Sure there's some oak,
pine, maple, etc., but there are many others from So. America, Africa, etc.
that would (wood??) make your head spin.
So get this: They/We stock some really nice doug fir, really sweet poplar,
but .... wait for it.... we have quite a bit of Spar Grade Sitka Spruce in
20 foot lengths! This stuff does not come 'certified' as such (heck,
Pietenpol picked his own wood before certification!), but I have never seen
such straight grain in wood as the ones Al (the owner) hand picks from his
supplier for the spars he sells. Talk about vertical grain!! All the stuff
he has (quite a bit actually) is perfect for spars. I brought my EAA wood
book and some of the criteria to the shop one day to learn a bit by
'grading' it myself and it is perfect stuff: the right ring count per inch,
etc. He said he had so many guys over the years com in and ask for sitka
spruce he started stocking it.
I know, I know.... what am I belly aching for? I can get the stuff at cost
from him (truly a very nice Father and son team). You can see a picture of
the laser business we are attempting to build here:
www.california-laser.com the white haired guy is Al the owner of the
WoodShed. The other guy is his
son, my business partner.
But, (and here is the wildest fact): those spar grade chunks of Sitka? *$8.99
a BOARD FOOT* (a board foot is 12" x 12" x 1" thick). Check that against ACS
or Wicks! And he'll sell to anyone. This stuff comes rough cut (not finished
off) but still, at the price it is a steal.
I have been thinking about advertising for him to drum up some builder
interest for him. In fact, the wood delivery company (from the northwest) he
gets the stuff from is coming through soon, and I am planning to sell
something around the house so I can buy most of my wood when the truck shows
up (at cost :o). With all the equipment we have I can cut and sand all the
stock easily enough.
In fact, while I am thinking about it, if anyone is interested in getting
some of this, just pop me an email and I can connect you to him:
mark.rbrts1@gmail.com We might be able to cut it to size you need too.
Part of the reason I am looking at spruce vs. poplar is that I can get it so
cheap by comparison. I might be able to afford it if we get the business
going...
Thanks again for the feedback!
Mark
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:17 PM, CJ Borsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So that's where my spruce went!!
>
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Chuck
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
>
> However, I am thinking of going with Spruce after all, as every little
> bit helps, and poplar is heavier. Chaper and easier to get, but
> heavier...
>
>
> Actually....Jack and Chuck and I talked about this very subject when we
got together this week. I personally think you should go with spruce if at
all possible....the time it takes to get poplar or douglas fir or whatever
and find the stuff with the right number of growth rings, etc....well, I
think you're better off just going ahead and buying Spruce.
>
> I spent a LOT of time in Lowes/Home Depot/specialty lumber yards finding
just the right pieces of Douglas Fir....and that was time I could have (and
SHOULD have!) spent building....
>
> If I was to do it over I would go with Spruce without giving it a second
thought...in the long run it will probably not actually cost any more....
>
> I know I wasn't asked but that's my 2 cents anyway.... :-)
>
> jm
>
>
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Mark Roberts
California Laser Etch
www.california-laser.com
888-882-5015
888-882-5016 fax
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