---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/21/10: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:41 AM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 2. 03:58 AM - Re: Re: Turtle Deck (Jack) 3. 07:27 AM - Re: Rust Protection Question (kevinpurtee) 4. 09:35 AM - Re: Plnas came in !! (Pieti Lowell) 5. 09:52 AM - Re: Plnas came in !! (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: Rust Protection Question (Jack) 7. 01:21 PM - Cork Fuel Guage (Jack) 8. 01:26 PM - Re: Rust Protection Question (Dan P) 9. 01:46 PM - Re: Cork Fuel Guage (Dan P) 10. 02:22 PM - Re: Cork Fuel Guage (Harvey Rule) 11. 02:28 PM - Re: Cork Fuel Guage (Jack Phillips) 12. 02:34 PM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (gtche98) 13. 02:38 PM - Front fitting access, center section (Michael Perez) 14. 02:40 PM - Re: Cork Fuel Guage (Ryan Mueller) 15. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Cork Fuel Guage (Jack) 16. 04:15 PM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Tucker) 17. 04:38 PM - Re: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Gary Boothe) 18. 04:49 PM - Re: Front fitting access, center section (Chris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:53 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hi, I'm Tucker Great to see a young man interested in using his hands. I wish more young people would do so. Then I could be sure that someone would become a Machinist and help keep my old Bonanza in the air. Check out this site about the image of manual labor in America. http://www.ratzenberger.com/index.php ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hi, I'm Tucker > Good to have a young man starting his Pietenpol. You are a very > fortunate person to be able to start your airplane at a young > age. The rest of us only dreamed of building a real airplane when > we were 13, most of us were still building models. You will learn > a lot while building. You will find practical uses for all that > math you learn in school, and be able to apply it to something you > like to do. By the time you are half way done with your > Pietenpol, You will be teaching your high school shop teacher how > to do something (do they still have shop classes?). If you need > any help with the corvair, I will help you the best I can, if I do > not know the answer, I will tell you I don't know. Like Ryan M. > said, get William Wynne's manual, and study it. Do your research, > and decide for sure you like the corvair. You can decide later in > your build which engine to use. Keep on truck'n, Tucker, you'll > be flying befor you know it! > > Shad > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:44 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck If you raise the deck and cowlings you will want to consider extending the center section struts. Otherwise she will be plenty hard to get in the front pit; Jack DSM _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck Made my rear turtle deck 3" higher and both instrument boards 2" higher. As shown in the Bingelis books you don't want your shoulder harness attach point too low. rick On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM, bcolleran wrote: Ok folks I have been looking around the archives and have not found the answer to my mystery yet. I am preparing to start my turtle deck and I cant seem to find what dimensions of the wood is height and width. Secondly I want to put a head rest or even maybe go a little higher in the back, I watched a friend today taxi out in his GN-1 and it looked a little low. Any thoughts? Thanks, Bill N424BK Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309569#309569 ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:14 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rust Protection Question From: "kevinpurtee" If the metal piece was not sealed I sprayed (or sloshed, if spraying wasn't practical) primer on the inside. For sealed pieces I used the linseed oil. Be careful: if you put linseed oil in a "sealed" part the linseed will find its way out through any tiny holes over the course of weeks or months and will cause complications during painting. I had that happen on one or two pieces, however, I cleaned the parts really well prior to spraying and didn't have too much trouble. If you can paint the outside of the part prior to adding the oil you'd avoid the problem. Given the sequence of fabrication, though, that's usually not practical. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309622#309622 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plnas came in !! From: "Pieti Lowell" Measure Twice, cut once. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309636#309636 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plnas came in !! From: helspersew@aol.com Joe, Tomorrow is the Poplar Grove Airport pancake breakfast and fly in. Why don 't you and your Dad come over? I will be out there flying and hanging out at my airplane.Ask as many questions as you like. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: j_dunavin Sent: Sat, Aug 21, 2010 12:46 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plnas came in !! Went over to my Dad's house and we looked over the plans and read over the book. 'm sooo excited that we have the plans now. ow we gata start making some saw dust 8) ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309608#309608 ======================== =========== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:21 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rust Protection Question Thanks for the note Kevin, that's what I plan to do... Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rust Protection Question If the metal piece was not sealed I sprayed (or sloshed, if spraying wasn't practical) primer on the inside. For sealed pieces I used the linseed oil. Be careful: if you put linseed oil in a "sealed" part the linseed will find its way out through any tiny holes over the course of weeks or months and will cause complications during painting. I had that happen on one or two pieces, however, I cleaned the parts really well prior to spraying and didn't have too much trouble. If you can paint the outside of the part prior to adding the oil you'd avoid the problem. Given the sequence of fabrication, though, that's usually not practical. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309622#309622 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:44 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage Has anyone flying used a cork/rod type gauge successfully in their center section tank? Was wondering if you can see it while strapped in. Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rust Protection Question From: "Dan P" Bare metal. Epoxy primer before painting is hard to beat. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309658#309658 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cork Fuel Guage From: "Dan P" My sight glass hangs down below the wing. I don't have a picture but I did find this from flying-squirrel that is similar to mine. Easy to see while flying. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309660#309660 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuel_gauge_197.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:21 PM PST US From: Harvey Rule Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage I have been using just such a gauge now for 5 years and I find it to be qui te satisfactory. I would however suggest using a small tube in the gas cap to keep the rod from leaning over as mine does all the time. Someday I'm going to change that and fix it. I did measure and paint the en d of the rod white to indicate when I am running low on fuel. I gave myself a few extra gallons before total empty. just to be on the safe side.You ma y want more.Just paint lower for more fuel at the end. From: jack@textors.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage Has anyone flying used a cork/rod type gauge successfully in their center s ection tank? Was wondering if you can see it while strapped in. Thanks=2C Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:55 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage I've got one. Why would you have trouble seeing it? See it hanging down in front of the fornt cockpit windshield? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage Has anyone flying used a cork/rod type gauge successfully in their center section tank? Was wondering if you can see it while strapped in. Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:16 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker From: "gtche98" dfwplt wrote: > I have an idea this is one Pietenpol that WILL get finished.... > > http://www.tuckerrice.net/index.htm > > > -- Clicking through to Captain Al's website removes any doubt that this Piet will get built. Impressive... http://www.captalrice.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309668#309668 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:23 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front fitting access, center section I was planning on ply wood sheeting my center section front, up to the firs t spar both top and bottom. This would encase the front wing attach fitting s with no access. (bolt check, corrosion, etc.)- How did you guys sheet/c over that forward area? Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage From: Ryan Mueller Jack, I think Jack T meant a Cub-type gauge with the wire sticking out of the fue l cap, on the top of the wing tank. I think Bill Rewey may have done that with his, and I think Kevin has that setup on his Piet. Isn't that what the Hello Kitty mirror is for, Kevin? : ) Ryan On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Jack Phillips wrot e: > I=92ve got one. Why would you have trouble seeing it? > > > See it hanging down in front of the fornt cockpit windshield? > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Raleigh, NC > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack > *Sent:* Saturday, August 21, 2010 4:21 PM > > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage > > > Has anyone flying used a cork/rod type gauge successfully in their center > section tank? Was wondering if you can see it while strapped in. > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage From: Jack Jack as Ryan said I meant on top of the c-section Jack Textor Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 4:26 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote: > I=99ve got one. Why would you have trouble seeing it? > > > > > See it hanging down in front of the fornt cockpit windshield? > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Raleigh, NC > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 4:21 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cork Fuel Guage > > Has anyone flying used a cork/rod type gauge successfully in their center s ection tank? Was wondering if you can see it while strapped in. > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker From: "Tucker" Wow! Thanks for the support and advice from everyone. Captain (my grandpa) said that we can stop by Brodhead on the way to Oshkosh next year. Should be very cool to see all the Pietenpols there. Starting on the fuselage and metal brackets when our order comes in from Aircraft Spruce. Tucker -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309683#309683 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:36 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker "It's gonna be a monoplane." Go get 'em, tiger! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tucker Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker Wow! Thanks for the support and advice from everyone. Captain (my grandpa) said that we can stop by Brodhead on the way to Oshkosh next year. Should be very cool to see all the Pietenpols there. Starting on the fuselage and metal brackets when our order comes in from Aircraft Spruce. Tucker -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309683#309683 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:59 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front fitting access, center section Just the top. No need to do the bottom. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:31 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front fitting access, center section I was planning on ply wood sheeting my center section front, up to the first spar both top and bottom. This would encase the front wing attach fittings with no access. (bolt check, corrosion, etc.) How did you guys sheet/cover that forward area? 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