---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/22/10: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:48 AM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Dan P) 2. 07:29 AM - Re: Cork Fuel Guage (kevinpurtee) 3. 08:23 AM - Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (Gary Boothe) 4. 09:49 AM - Hi, I'm Tucker (Ben Charvet) 5. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Michael Perez) 6. 10:16 AM - Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (kevinpurtee) 7. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (gboothe5@comcast.net) 8. 03:22 PM - Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (kevinpurtee) 9. 03:47 PM - Re: Plnas came in !! (j_dunavin) 10. 03:56 PM - Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (Dan P) 11. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (Jack) 12. 05:02 PM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Tucker) 13. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge (Gary Boothe) 14. 05:26 PM - corvair engine comes alive (Michael Groah) 15. 05:33 PM - Corvair engine run (Michael Groah) 16. 05:35 PM - Re: Corvair engine comes alive (Gary Boothe) 17. 05:52 PM - Re: Corvair engine run (Jim Boyer) 18. 06:06 PM - Re: Corvair engine run (bubbleboy) 19. 06:07 PM - Re: Corvair engine run (Jim Markle) 20. 06:32 PM - Fw: Wood Steamer (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP) 21. 06:56 PM - Re: Corvair engine run (Michael Groah) 22. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Plnas came in !! (Ryan Mueller) 23. 08:38 PM - Re: Fw: Wood Steamer (Tim Willis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker From: "Dan P" gtche98 wrote: > > dfwplt wrote: > > I have an idea this is one Pietenpol that WILL get finished.... > > > > http://www.tuckerrice.net/index.htm > > > > > > -- > > > Clicking through to Captain Al's website removes any doubt that this Piet will get built. Impressive... > > http://www.captalrice.com/ That's just what I was thinking too. Go get'm Tucker! -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309732#309732 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cork Fuel Guage From: "kevinpurtee" Jack - I use the wire float gage. I have a small mirror in the cockpit on a lanyard (hello kitty - kids go nuts for it). I fly by time so I don't usually use the mirror, but, I do use it to make sure the gas cap is on before I take off after refuel. I also use it to make sure I've got gas if I'm giving rides and am not keeping track of time. I drilled a hole in the cap and epoxied in a brass male-to-male hose connector from the hardware store to serve as a guide for the wire gage, thus avoiding the floppy-wire-problem. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309737#309737 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:44 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge OK, now I'm confused... How do you install a wire/float gauge in a center section tank? I didn't know that was possible. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cork Fuel Guage Jack - I use the wire float gage. I have a small mirror in the cockpit on a lanyard (hello kitty - kids go nuts for it). I fly by time so I don't usually use the mirror, but, I do use it to make sure the gas cap is on before I take off after refuel. I also use it to make sure I've got gas if I'm giving rides and am not keeping track of time. I drilled a hole in the cap and epoxied in a brass male-to-male hose connector from the hardware store to serve as a guide for the wire gage, thus avoiding the floppy-wire-problem. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309737#309737 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:15 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hi, I'm Tucker It looks like you are located in South Florida. If you ever get up to Central Florida, I can show you my Pietenpol. Its located at X21 in Titusville. Ben Charvet ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:11 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker Welcome to the list Tucker. Sounds like you have a lot of will and a lot of support at home. If I can assist in anyway, please feel free to contact me .. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com - ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge From: "kevinpurtee" I drilled a hole in the cap and run the float wire through that. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309761#309761 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge From: gboothe5@comcast.net I guess I thought that that would suck fuel out, being on the low pressure side...guess I was wrong!? Gary Boothe ------Original Message------ From: Kevin Purtee Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge Sent: Aug 22, 2010 10:15 AM I drilled a hole in the cap and run the float wire through that. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309761#309761 Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge From: "kevinpurtee" Gary - Forgot to mention in my e-mail: if the tank's full and the runway's bumpy the fuel will spew a bit out the float guide during the ground roll. If the ground's smooth or the tank's not completely full it doesn't happen. I don't think there's siphoning due to pressure differential. The fit between the float guide and the wire is pretty tight. There's not a lot of room for liquid to get sucked out. -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309792#309792 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plnas came in !! From: "j_dunavin" Thanks Dan, Sorry we missed it, but our schedules just didn't work out. We do have a line on a corvair motor. We are supposed to go over and help my buddie's Dad tear down an old corvair, and he said we could have the engine. So I suppose that's the next step. We are also still trying to decide what our best option for wood is. We could save money if we buy from this place in Madison. But we could save time, if we order from Aircraft Spruce. Seeing how it's already pre selected wood. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309795#309795 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge From: "Dan P" Or you could put the sight glass out the bottom of the tank,,, Easy to see. This one is similar to mine. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309796#309796 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuel_gauge_164.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:33:06 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge Yes, still trying to determine which way to go, thanks... Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan P Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge Or you could put the sight glass out the bottom of the tank,,, Easy to see. This one is similar to mine. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309796#309796 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuel_gauge_164.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker From: "Tucker" Thanks for the offer Mr. Charvet. I'll start bugging Captain for a trip to Titusville. I have time in a J-3, Lake Amphib, C-172, and Remos G-3 but I can't log dual time until I'm 14. Captain says that learning to fly in a taildragger is the best way to learn to fly properly. A ride in your Piet would be a blast. I'll let you know when we can get up there. Thanks again. -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309807#309807 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:50 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge Dan, ...been looking at those, too. Thanks! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan P Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center Section Cork Fuel Gauge Or you could put the sight glass out the bottom of the tank,,, Easy to see. This one is similar to mine. -------- Dan Plett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309796#309796 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuel_gauge_164.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:38 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair engine comes alive This weekend I was able to get my engine running. We ran it several times over the two days. This run was done at the end of today just to get a quick video to share with you guys. Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:02 PM, "Tucker" wrote: > > Thanks for the offer Mr. Charvet. I'll start bugging Captain for a trip to Titusville. I have time in a J-3, Lake Amphib, C-172, and Remos G-3 but I can't log dual time until I'm 14. Captain says that learning to fly in a taildragger is the best way to learn to fly properly. A ride in your Piet would be a blast. I'll let you know when we can get up there. Thanks again. > > -------- > Tucker > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309807#309807 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:14 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run Ok. I forgot the link. Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoECVtN7p4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:02 PM, "Tucker" wrote: > > Thanks for the offer Mr. Charvet. I'll start bugging Captain for a trip t o Titusville. I have time in a J-3, Lake Amphib, C-172, and Remos G-3 but I can't log dual time until I'm 14. Captain says that learning to fly in a t aildragger is the best way to learn to fly properly. A ride in your Piet wo uld be a blast. I'll let you know when we can get up there. Thanks again. > > -------- > Tucker > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309807#309807 > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:04 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine comes alive Way to go, Mike!! ...looking forward to that video... Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair engine comes alive This weekend I was able to get my engine running. We ran it several times over the two days. This run was done at the end of today just to get a quick video to share with you guys. Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:32 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run Hi Mike and Vic, Great job and it sounds and looks like it is running fine. Congratulations. Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Groah" Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:30:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run Ok. I forgot the link. Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoECVtN7p4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:02 PM, "Tucker" < Tucker@tuckerrice.net > wrote: Thanks for the offer Mr. Charvet. =C2-I'll start bugging Captain for a tr ip to Titusville. =C2-I have time in a J-3, Lake Amphib, C-172, and Remos G-3 but I can't log dual time until I'm 14. =C2-Captain says that learni ng to fly in a taildragger is the best way to learn to fly properly. =C2- A ride in your Piet would be a blast. =C2-I'll let you know when we can g et up there. =C2-Thanks again. -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309807#309807 http://www.matronics.com/Navigat============== =============;=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-- MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.mat======== ===================p;=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-t; http://www.m atronics.com/contribution == ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair engine run From: "bubbleboy" Oh thats sweet! Made me go right out and glue some more of my rudder! What carb are you using? Thanks for sharing! Scotty -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309818#309818 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:13 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run That's outstanding! Congrats..... -----Original Message----- From: Michael Groah Sent: Aug 22, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run Ok. I forgot the link. Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoECVtN7p4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:02 PM, "Tucker" wrote: Thanks for the offer Mr. Charvet. I'll start bugging Captain for a trip to Titusville. I have time in a J-3, Lake Amphib, C-172, and Remos G-3 but I can't log dual time until I'm 14. Captain says that learning to fly in a taildragger is the best way to learn to fly properly. A ride in your Piet would be a blast. I'll let you know when we can get up there. Thanks again. -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309807#309807 http://www.matronics.com/Navigat====================================================; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -http://forums.mat====================================================p; t; http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:59 PM PST US From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Wood Steamer - Pieter's - I build this steamer and just though-I would share it with the group. I u sed a Wagner power wall paper steamer and a 36" double wall insulated vent pipe found at the local hardware store. I cut one of the steamer plates apa rt and salvaged the threaded end for the connection into the vent pipe. I d ropped the threaded salvage end into the pipe where I made an entry hole bi g enough to take the threads. I then attached the 7 foot hose that comes wi th the steamer. I used a insert cap for the top end and drilled 5 holes lar ge enough to take the cap strip. Plugged the bottom end with a round piece of wood and then added flashing to give it stability. A few screws to hole everything together and a base piece of wood to keep it upright and stable. The wagner power steamer hold up to 1 gallon of water. - It works fantastic!-A test run-was-done. Results:-10 minutes from s tart to bending jig.So far it steams-very-fast! I covered the top with a rag just to keep the steam in and made the rag untouchable! - This steamer my seem a bit much but-I plan on doing many other things tha t require bending wood. - KMHeide Hawley, MN - - =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:50 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run Thanks everyone. And for those that didn't see it yet I reloaded it on YouTube so now it has it's preview pic and should work better. I also trimmed the length a little. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_e_ZFUjSxs&feature=youtube_gdata_player Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Jim Markle wrote: > > That's outstanding! Congrats..... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Groah > Sent: Aug 22, 2010 7:30 PM > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine run > > > Ok. I forgot the link. Here it is > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoECVtN7p4&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > Mike Groah > Tulare CA > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:02 PM, "Tucker" wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the offer Mr. Charvet. I'll start bugging Captain for a trip to Titusville. I have time in a J-3, Lake Amphib, C-172, and Remos G-3 but I can't log dual time until I'm 14. Captain says that learning to fly in a taildragger is the best way to learn to fly properly. A ride in your Piet would be a blast. I'll let you know when we can get up there. Thanks again. > > -------- > Tucker > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309807#309807 > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigat====================================================; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -http://forums.mat====================================================p; t; http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plnas came in !! From: Ryan Mueller Regarding your potential Corvair core....you will want to check the engine code to determine if the engine is suitable for conversion for aircraft use. Ideally you want to find a 1965-69 95 to 110 HP engine that does not have "smog" heads. You can use every part of an engine that has smog heads, except for the cylinder heads. You would need to find a good set of non-smog heads. Pat Panzera has posted a list of engines codes at his Corvaircraft site: http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/VinSuffix.html As noted in the chart, here are the various codes you can use: 65-69 95 to 110, usable heads: RA, RD, RE, RF, RG, RX, RH, RJ, RK 65-69 95 to 110, heads are not usable: RS, RU, RV, RW, AC, AD You can also use certain 1964 model years engines, if they have a crankshaft with an 8409 number cast into it. If you find an engine with the following codes you will need to disassemble it to the point of removing the top cover so you can inspect the number on the crank. If it is any number besides 8409 then the engine is no good for aircraft conversion: YC, YN, YL, YM, Z, ZH, ZF, ZD, ZG There are additional codes for 140 HP engines that can be converted for use, but you have to find different cylinder heads and either get a different crank or swap out the retarded crank gear that comes on those cranks. There are issues with swapping cylinder heads from '64 to '65-'69 engines (but it can be done), and there are also head casting numbers that will help determine if the heads are suitable for use: http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/HeadNumbers.html All of that info and more is in William Wynne's conversion manual, which you should get a copy of if you intend to use a Corvair. You will also need the "Green Manual": http://www.themotorbookstore.com/1965corvair.html You can get reprints, or find originals on eBay in the same price range. The easiest thing to do would be to find an engine with a code that means it is a 1965-69 95-110HP engine with usable heads. Go ahead and take any engine that is free...if nothing else it will give you practice tearing one down, and there are miscellaneous parts here and there that are usable. Good luck, Ryan On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 5:46 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > > Thanks Dan, > Sorry we missed it, but our schedules just didn't work out. > > We do have a line on a corvair motor. We are supposed to go over and help > my buddie's Dad tear down an old corvair, and he said we could have the > engine. So I suppose that's the next step. > > We are also still trying to decide what our best option for wood is. > We could save money if we buy from this place in Madison. > But we could save time, if we order from Aircraft Spruce. Seeing how it's > already pre selected wood. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309795#309795 > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:09 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Wood Steamer Great stuff, Ken. It looks like it was made that way in a factory, and not in China! And its efficacy is even better. 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