Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/23/10


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 04:42 AM - Re: Wood steamer (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: Wood steamer (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
     3. 06:10 AM - of possible interest-- short down home aviation video stories, PBS quality (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     4. 07:06 AM - great photo web site to 80th Pietenpol Anniversary gathering a Bhead and OSH (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     5. 07:42 AM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (TOM STINEMETZE)
     6. 07:43 AM - Re: of possible interest-- short down home aviation video stories, PBS quality (Jeff Boatright)
     7. 08:00 AM - Builder List (Piet2112)
     8. 08:12 AM - Re: corvair engine comes alive (kevinpurtee)
     9. 08:44 AM - Picture attachment sizes (was Re: Fw: Wood Steamer) (Ryan Mueller)
    10. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Wood steamer (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    11. 09:00 AM - Re: Hi, I'm Tucker (Dan Yocum)
    12. 09:22 AM - Picture attachment sizes (was Fw: Wood Steamer) (K5YAC)
    13. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Plnas came in !! (Dan Yocum)
    14. 11:33 AM - Re: Builder List (kevinpurtee)
    15. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Plnas came in !! (Ryan Mueller)
    16. 11:56 AM - Re: Re: Plnas came in !! (helspersew@aol.com)
    17. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: Plnas came in !! (Dan Yocum)
    18. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: Builder List (Tim Willis)
    19. 08:52 PM - Re: Builder List (Gary Boothe)
    20. 09:47 PM - Re: Empennage and rib wood questions (Billy McCaskill)
    21. 11:02 PM - Re: Builder List (Jack)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:42:11 AM PST US
    Subject: re: Wood steamer
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi Ken, That steamer is GREAT! You should offer those for sale. I wonder if there is anything out there for sale close to this? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL.


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    Time: 05:23:27 AM PST US
    From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: re: Wood steamer
    Thanks Dan.... - I can say this....it works fantastic and man can it steam in 10 minutes! It cost about $60.00 and was worth every penny so far! - Ken H Hawley, MN - --- On Mon, 8/23/10, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote: From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: re: Wood steamer Hi Ken, - That steamer is GREAT! You should offer those for sale. I wonder if there i s anything out there for sale close to this? - Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 06:10:39 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: of possible interest-- short down home aviation video
    stories, PBS quality Just met the gent to runs/ created this web site. He's a Journalism Prof essor at nearby Kent State University and was a former PBS videographer. Click on the thumbnails. http://www.storiesthatfly.com/ Some go right into a short 3-6 minute video about the subject matter, some thumbnails just have still photos. Joe Murray (the professor) is a private pilot and flies a J-3 Cub out of a nearby airport. He might do a little story on Pietenpols next. Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 07:06:45 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: great photo web site to 80th Pietenpol Anniversary gathering
    a Bhead and OSH I had forgotten about this site. Wow are there ever some nice photos of all the Piets from 2009 here thanks to David Brant who took the photos and posted them. Thanks David ! http://public.fotki.com/dwbrant/fancies-of-flight/pietenpol-80th-anni/ Mike C.


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    Time: 07:42:25 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker
    >>> "Tucker" Tucker@tuckerrice.net> 8/20/2010 4:32 PM >> ( mailto:Tucker@tu ckerrice.net ) I just joined the list, I'm 13 and building a Pietenpol. My grandfather built a Skybolt and RV-9A and is helping me. Tucker: Seeing your post is a real joy to me. I have been wanting to fly since I was a kid but I was actually 54 years old before I had the chance to get my pilot's license. Now I am building my own Air Camper with occasional help from my grandson and granddaughter ( 7 & 5 years old) and I can't wait for that first time I get to fly with them in my own plane. I hope they get as excited about it as you seem to be! Be sure to let your grandfather (Captain) know just how much you appreciate him! In my case the help usually goes the other way though. Both my boys work for Burt Rutan out in Mojave, CA and are currently on the SpaceShipTwo project. When they get to come home for a visit they always come out to the shop and critique my work and usually take back a part or two that they want to redo or help me out with. So when SpaceShip Zero.One is completed it will be the work of three generations of airplane lovers. If you're ever out Kansas way, give a shout and I'll introduce you to some of our beautiful Kansas scenery. Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS N328X


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    Time: 07:43:25 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: of possible interest-- short down home aviation video
    stories, PBS quality Oh great, now I'm NEVER gonna get any work done today... =-O >Just met the gent to runs/ created this web site. He's a >Journalism Professor at nearby Kent State University >and was a former PBS videographer. > >Click on the thumbnails. ><http://www.storiesthatfly.com/>http://www.storiesthatfly.com/ > > >Some go right into a short 3-6 minute video about the subject >matter, some thumbnails just have still photos. > >Joe Murray (the professor) is a private pilot and flies a J-3 Cub >out of a nearby airport. He might do a little story >on Pietenpols next. > >Mike C. > >do not archive > > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 08:00:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Builder List
    From: "Piet2112" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    I was curious if anyone has a recent list of builders. My airplane is has been slow to start this summer with the Texas heat, but I want to keep up my enthusiasm to get my bird flying. I do travel quite a bit around the country and would love to see some "Piets in progress". If anyone has a list, could you please e-mail it to me or post it here. Thanks! Curtis Merdan Flower Mound, TX Tail Feathers ruffled Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309886#309886


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    Time: 08:12:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: corvair engine comes alive
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    They sound so good! Good on ya, man. do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309887#309887


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    Time: 08:44:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wood Steamer)
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Hi Ken, Just a suggestion on posting pics to the list: it can be helpful if you resize the pictures to be a little bit smaller before you post them. It looks like you probably posted the pictures at their original resolution, as taken by your digicam. This leads to very large file sizes that Matronics has to send out to all the subscribers (meaning more of their bandwidth having to be used). In addition, for those that use the web-based forum to access the list it leads to the page for that thread being as wide as your picture is. Since one of your pictures is over 3700 pixels wide this means that the page for the thread will now be 2.5 to 3 times wider than the screen. This can make it tedious to read messages in that thread because you now have to scroll back and forth to read these really looooong strings of text. If you don't know what resolution to resize the files to, you can start with your desktop resolution as a guide. If you right click on an empty area of your desktop and select Properties, and then the Settings tab in the window that opens up, you will see your display resolution. The first number will be the width...if you resize your pictures to match that width (don't worry about the height, just have it remain proportional) that will probably be a good place to start. Hope that helps, Ryan do not archive On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:27 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > * > * > ** > > Pieter's > > I build this steamer and just though I would share it with the group.... > >


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    Time: 08:53:40 AM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: re: Wood steamer
    They have those at harbor freight for much less, I think they were $24.99 you must have missed the sale! Don not archive In a message dated 8/23/2010 8:23:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kmheidecpo@yahoo.com writes: Thanks Dan.... I can say this....it works fantastic and man can it steam in 10 minutes! It cost about $60.00 and was worth every penny so far! Ken H Hawley, MN --- On Mon, 8/23/10, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote: From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: re: Wood steamer Hi Ken, That steamer is GREAT! You should offer those for sale. I wonder if there is anything out there for sale close to this? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. " target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)


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    Time: 09:00:02 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Hi, I'm Tucker
    Tucker, Congratulations on choosing to build a Pietenpol. It's a great little airplane. The best I've ever flown. I'm sure there are better planes, but probably not nearly as economical to fly. Another builder, Ty Daniels, started building his Pietenpol when he was in high school and finished it shortly after graduating. He built a fantastic plane that is one of the lightest Piets I know of: 640lbs with 8 gallons of fuel. It climbs like a rocket and looks really cool: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/new_page_54.htm Stick to the plans, build a little bit every day, and have fun! Good luck! Dan On 08/20/2010 04:32 PM, Tucker wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Tucker"<Tucker@tuckerrice.net> > > I just joined the list, I'm 13 and building a Pietenpol. My grandfather built a Skybolt and RV-9A and is helping me. Been looking at the Pietenpols at Oshkosh for the past 5 years and when we got home this year, we decided to go for it. I got the plans from Mr. Pietenpol and just got a Corvair engine. We spent yesterday and today tearing it down. I'm really excited about getting started. I need to order Mr. Wynne's Corvair book. Here's a picture. > > -------- > Tucker > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309576#309576 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0007_154.jpg > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 09:22:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Picture attachment sizes (was Fw: Wood Steamer)
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    You could try a photo resizer like this one I found at CNET. It will do batch jobs or individual files. It is fairly self-explanatory if you play with it for a minute. http://download.cnet.com/windows/3055-2192_4-10319476.html?tag=pdl-redir -------- Mark Chouinard Finishing up Wings - Working on Center Section Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309896#309896


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    Time: 11:06:34 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Plnas came in !!
    There's a place in Sycamore that has a small selection of aircraft grade spruce. It's just west of Peace Rd on the west side of town, but I can't recall the name. Dan do not archive On 08/22/2010 05:46 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com> > > Thanks Dan, > Sorry we missed it, but our schedules just didn't work out. > > We do have a line on a corvair motor. We are supposed to go over and help my buddie's Dad tear down an old corvair, and he said we could have the engine. So I suppose that's the next step. > > We are also still trying to decide what our best option for wood is. > We could save money if we buy from this place in Madison. > But we could save time, if we order from Aircraft Spruce. Seeing how it's already pre selected wood. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309795#309795 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 11:33:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Builder List
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Hi Curtis - If I haven't offered already, I'd be delighted to show you NX899KP. It's hangared in Georgetown so it'd be quite a drive. Tim Willis has a workshop nearby as well. If you have access to a plane you could fly to Georgetown - an easy flight from the Dallas area. Elsewhere in TX: Oscar's in San Antonio and Hans is in Waller. Hans is probably closest. They both have flying planes. Robert Caldwell has a really nice project in Gilmer. That would be a reasonable drive. Let me know. Good Lord willin' I'll be in the hangar all weekend! do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309914#309914


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    Time: 11:39:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plnas came in !!
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    The Hardwood Connection, possibly? http://www.thehardwoodconnection.com/ <http://www.thehardwoodconnection.com/>Ryan On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote: > > There's a place in Sycamore that has a small selection of aircraft grade > spruce. It's just west of Peace Rd on the west side of town, but I can't > recall the name. > > Dan > > do not archive > > > On 08/22/2010 05:46 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com> >> >> Thanks Dan, >> Sorry we missed it, but our schedules just didn't work out. >> >> We do have a line on a corvair motor. We are supposed to go over and help >> my buddie's Dad tear down an old corvair, and he said we could have the >> engine. So I suppose that's the next step. >> >> We are also still trying to decide what our best option for wood is. >> We could save money if we buy from this place in Madison. >> But we could save time, if we order from Aircraft Spruce. Seeing how it's >> already pre selected wood. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309795#309795 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > >


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    Time: 11:56:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plnas came in !!
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    The Hardwood Connection -----Original Message----- From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 1:06 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plnas came in !! There's a place in Sycamore that has a small selection of aircraft grade spruce. It's just west of Peace Rd on the west side of town, but I can't recall the name. Dan do not archive On 08/22/2010 05:46 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > > Thanks Dan, > Sorry we missed it, but our schedules just didn't work out. > > We do have a line on a corvair motor. We are supposed to go over and hel p my buddie's Dad tear down an old corvair, and he said we could have the engine. So I suppose that's the next step. > > We are also still trying to decide what our best option for wood is. > We could save money if we buy from this place in Madison. > But we could save time, if we order from Aircraft Spruce. Seeing how it' s already pre selected wood. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309795#309795 > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============


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    Time: 12:19:06 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Plnas came in !!
    Yup, that's the place. I talked to them a few months ago - the gent said he had a small selection, but it was all approved stuff. Probably enough to get started on some things. I have no idea on the prices. Thanks, Dan On 08/23/2010 01:34 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > The Hardwood Connection, possibly? > > http://www.thehardwoodconnection.com/ > > <http://www.thehardwoodconnection.com/>Ryan > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov > <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>> wrote: > > <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>> > > There's a place in Sycamore that has a small selection of aircraft > grade spruce. It's just west of Peace Rd on the west side of town, > but I can't recall the name. > > Dan > > do not archive > > > On 08/22/2010 05:46 PM, j_dunavin wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > "j_dunavin"<j_dunavin@hotmail.com <mailto:j_dunavin@hotmail.com>> > > Thanks Dan, > Sorry we missed it, but our schedules just didn't work out. > > We do have a line on a corvair motor. We are supposed to go over > and help my buddie's Dad tear down an old corvair, and he said > we could have the engine. So I suppose that's the next step. > > We are also still trying to decide what our best option for wood is. > We could save money if we buy from this place in Madison. > But we could save time, if we order from Aircraft Spruce. Seeing > how it's already pre selected wood. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309795#309795 > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 12:45:14 PM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Builder List
    Curtis, I believe Kevin and I responded a couple of months ago to your similar request, and/or from another Piet builder doing some training in Dallas. The offer still goes. Suggest a time and we will try to accommodate. As far as I know, I have the only project under construction between you and Oscar's completed flying plane in San Antonio. (Maybe not-- I've not looked up Gilmer.) I am a 20 minute drive south of the Georgetown airport (KGTU) where Kevin has his plane. Kevin's plane is only a couple of miles off I-35, and my project is a 7 mile drive off I-35. Excluding rush hours around Dallas, you are 3 hours drive away from Kevin and me. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> >Sent: Aug 23, 2010 2:32 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Builder List > > >Hi Curtis - If I haven't offered already, I'd be delighted to show you NX899KP. It's hangared in Georgetown so it'd be quite a drive. Tim Willis has a workshop nearby as well. If you have access to a plane you could fly to Georgetown - an easy flight from the Dallas area. > >Elsewhere in TX: Oscar's in San Antonio and Hans is in Waller. Hans is probably closest. They both have flying planes. > >Robert Caldwell has a really nice project in Gilmer. That would be a reasonable drive. > >Let me know. Good Lord willin' I'll be in the hangar all weekend! > >do not archive > >-------- >Kevin Purtee >NX899KP >Austin/Georgetown, TX > > ><clip>


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    Time: 08:52:47 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Builder List
    Curtis, I was in Dallas last week...you boys are tough!! Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:59 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Builder List I was curious if anyone has a recent list of builders. My airplane is has been slow to start this summer with the Texas heat, but I want to keep up my enthusiasm to get my bird flying. I do travel quite a bit around the country and would love to see some "Piets in progress". If anyone has a list, could you please e-mail it to me or post it here. Thanks! Curtis Merdan Flower Mound, TX Tail Feathers ruffled Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309886#309886


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    Time: 09:47:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empennage and rib wood questions
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    Welcome to the list Tom, you will find tons of help and encouragement here from some very knowledgeable & friendly people on this list. To answer your question, the wood sizes listed in the Aircraft Spruce and Wicks catalogs (and websites) is the actual size as you order it. 1/4"x1/2" capstrip and 1"x1" longeron stock will arrive at your door milled to those actual dimensions. So now you just need to figure out how much wood you need for your first order and get on the phone first thing tomorrow so you can start making airplane parts soon! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309957#309957


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    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Builder List
    Curtis, I'm working on a director as we speak. So far the response has been average with 26 responding. If you would like to include your information in the directory, please fill out the attached Word document and return to my home email jack (at) textors.com. Just include the information you wish. I won't plan to post it to my site or any other. After I compile the information, I will make it available via email in some form to all that shared their information. So far those responding include: Rusch, Wilson, Dotson, Markle, Chouinard, Jardine, , Borsuk, Mason, Gow, Stinemetze, Phillips, Howe, Davis, Schomp, Chase, Dever, Cardinal, Perez, Singleton, Morlock, Magnusson, Coxwell, Granos, Zuniga, Perry No matter what the response I will get it out within the next week. Hope this helps Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Builder List I was curious if anyone has a recent list of builders. My airplane is has been slow to start this summer with the Texas heat, but I want to keep up my enthusiasm to get my bird flying. I do travel quite a bit around the country and would love to see some "Piets in progress". If anyone has a list, could you please e-mail it to me or post it here. Thanks! Curtis Merdan Flower Mound, TX Tail Feathers ruffled Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309886#309886




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