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1. 04:47 AM - Re: Re: leading edge covering (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 07:17 AM - Re: Okoume plywood (gtche98)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Started my rib jig today (Rick Holland)
4. 07:38 AM - Color suggestions (Jim Markle)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Try some paste wax.... (norm)
6. 08:08 AM - Re: Color suggestions (Gary Boothe)
7. 09:50 AM - Re: Color suggestions (Jack)
8. 09:50 AM - Re: Okoume plywood (Gene Rambo)
9. 10:29 AM - Re: Color suggestions (Billy McCaskill)
10. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Color suggestions (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
11. 10:59 AM - Re: Color suggestions (Jack Phillips)
12. 11:07 AM - Happy Labor Day (Jack Phillips)
13. 11:36 AM - Re: Happy Labor Day (Jeff Boatright)
14. 12:50 PM - Re: Happy Labor Day (Gary Boothe)
15. 12:53 PM - Re: Color suggestions (Gary Boothe)
16. 01:03 PM - Wing education, please advise.. (j_dunavin)
17. 01:25 PM - Re: Happy Labor Day (Jack)
18. 01:26 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (Ben Charvet)
19. 01:37 PM - antenna location-on the nose? (skellytown flyer)
20. 01:43 PM - Re: Happy Labor Day (JGriff)
21. 01:48 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (Pieti Lowell)
22. 01:53 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (Don Emch)
23. 01:55 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (Pieti Lowell)
24. 01:55 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (j_dunavin)
25. 02:00 PM - Re: Happy Labor Day (kevinpurtee)
26. 02:06 PM - Re: Happy Labor Day (Dan P)
27. 02:14 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (j_dunavin)
28. 02:34 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (Don Emch)
29. 03:05 PM - Re: Wing education, please advise.. (Rick Holland)
30. 03:15 PM - Re: antenna location-on the nose? (skellytown flyer)
31. 03:45 PM - Eaa conspiracy? (Lawrence Williams)
32. 05:12 PM - Re: Eaa conspiracy? (gtche98)
33. 05:53 PM - Fly in (Dick N)
34. 06:19 PM - Re: Fly in (Wayne Bressler)
35. 08:50 PM - cabane strut length (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
36. 08:53 PM - Split Axel gear width (Steve Singleton)
37. 09:37 PM - Re: Fly in (Davis Roger)
38. 09:38 PM - Re: cabane strut length (Chris)
39. 11:07 PM - Re: Color suggestions (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge covering |
I put those filler pieces in there and wish I hadn't. Oh well, it still fl
ies well.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: Chris <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Sat, Sep 4, 2010 10:19 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge covering
No, do not support the rear edge of the plywood. When you cover the wing
his will allow the plywood to deform slightly and make a smooth transition
.
Chris
acramento, Ca
estcoastpiet.com
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ent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:24 PM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge covering
Thanks for the replies. We'll probably go for the plywood.
ne more question. Do you add filler strips to the top of the front spar
etween the ribs so as to have something to attach the rear edge of the
overing to?
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hanks, Jim Birke
ra G. Ross Aerospace Museum
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| Subject: | Re: Okoume plywood |
Quick Google search turned up this list of Boatbuilding Lumber supply houses.
Looks like there are a lot of options here:
http://www.glen-l.com/resources/lumber-suppliers.html
Here is their list for Minnesota:
Courtland - Courtland Hardwoods, 321 Main Street, PO Box 35, 56021, 507-359-7811
Maple Grove - Midwest Hardwood Corp., 9540 83rd Ave. North, 55369, 612-425-8700
Minneapolis - Industrial Lumber & Ply, 4100 Washington Ave N, 55412 612/521 4767
St. Bonifacius - Midwest Boat Appeal and Marine Plywood, 4340 Main St, 55375, (952)
446-9611
They also link to a couple other "wood finder" sites.
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| Subject: | Re: Started my rib jig today |
I waited about 10 hours before flipping the rib over, one side before going
to work then finish the other side after dinner.
rick
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:21 AM, JGriff <jgriffith19@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The jig has a layer of 3 mil mylar so hopefully that will be OK. I didn't
> think about how to keep the epoxy from sticking to the spar spacers I have
> in place. Guess I'll have to figure out a way to get some wax paper in
> there. I soaked the first 15" of the top cap strip in hot water for about 20
> minutes and clamped it in my former. Seemed to work OK.
>
> So even though I'll staple the gussets on I should wait for 24 hours or so
> before removing the rib to do the other side?
>
> Thanks for all the help and encouragement.
> Jamie
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311353#311353
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> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rib6_208.jpg
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Color suggestions |
I've struggled over the looks of my Model A engine and finally realize I need to
clean it up and add some color....but I'm not taking it apart to do every little
piece individually. I've already removed bits and pieces (started sand blasting
yesterday) so I can powder coat the pieces that will fit in the oven.
The rest I'll leave assembled and clean/mask and air brush.
I already have black and cream and blue powder and matched industrial paint of
the same colors and would like to use one or all of those. I don't want to have
to buy any new paint.
Maybe all black? All black big pieces with the little stuff blue? (Julia doesn't
like that idea)
Attached is a pretty close picture of my eventual overall paint scheme. Anyone
with a better understanding of what might look good have any suggestions for
me? Maybe I need to call a share holder's meeting to discuss this? :-)
Seriously, I have no idea what would look good but would really appreciate any
and all suggestions....
jm
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| Subject: | Re: Try some paste wax.... |
Anyone try cheap hairspray applied to jig before starting each rib? Works a
s a mold release for fiberglass layups..
--- On Sat, 9/4/10, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Try some paste wax....
- I forgot to mention, the grocery bag pieces are free, and even
reusable.- They will stretch to fit the contour you need and are very
easy to use.- At Sun-n-Fun this year someone made a rib in the rib jig
without using any release protection.- I wonder how they ever got that
rib out.....
Ben
On 9/4/2010 9:37 PM, Billy McCaskill wrote:
> -->- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Billy McCaskill"<billmz@cox.net
>
>
> Real mold release agent is made from PVA (poly-vinyl acetate) and contain
s no wax.- Resins and some epoxies (not sure abobut T-88) can absorb some
of the wax and interfere with proper curing and the ability for glue to st
ick to it when it's supposed to.- Just something to consider while buildi
ng your Piet or any other wood structures...
>
> Also avoid any waxes or lubricants containing silicone, as it will interf
ere with adhesion of finishes like varnish, shellac, etc...
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311400#311400
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| Subject: | Color suggestions |
Jim,
Although I'm conservative, by nature, I really like colorful Piets! I say,
"Be bold! Let the paint reflect your out-going personality!"
But the frugal side says you have to go with what's in the cupboard (wonder
how that orange marking paint and Golden Oak stain will look....?)
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Color suggestions
I've struggled over the looks of my Model A engine and finally realize I
need to clean it up and add some color....but I'm not taking it apart to do
every little piece individually. I've already removed bits and pieces
(started sand blasting yesterday) so I can powder coat the pieces that will
fit in the oven. The rest I'll leave assembled and clean/mask and air
brush.
I already have black and cream and blue powder and matched industrial paint
of the same colors and would like to use one or all of those. I don't want
to have to buy any new paint.
Maybe all black? All black big pieces with the little stuff blue? (Julia
doesn't like that idea)
Attached is a pretty close picture of my eventual overall paint scheme.
Anyone with a better understanding of what might look good have any
suggestions for me? Maybe I need to call a share holder's meeting to
discuss this? :-)
Seriously, I have no idea what would look good but would really appreciate
any and all suggestions....
jm
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| Subject: | Color suggestions |
Continental Gold :)
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 8:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Color suggestions
I've struggled over the looks of my Model A engine and finally realize I
need to clean it up and add some color....but I'm not taking it apart to do
every little piece individually. I've already removed bits and pieces
(started sand blasting yesterday) so I can powder coat the pieces that will
fit in the oven. The rest I'll leave assembled and clean/mask and air
brush.
I already have black and cream and blue powder and matched industrial paint
of the same colors and would like to use one or all of those. I don't want
to have to buy any new paint.
Maybe all black? All black big pieces with the little stuff blue? (Julia
doesn't like that idea)
Attached is a pretty close picture of my eventual overall paint scheme.
Anyone with a better understanding of what might look good have any
suggestions for me? Maybe I need to call a share holder's meeting to
discuss this? :-)
Seriously, I have no idea what would look good but would really appreciate
any and all suggestions....
jm
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I bought a sheet of oakume large enough to do my leading edge with lots lef
t over from a boat supply place on Long Island. It was very cheap=2C and t
hey pre-cut the strips for me. Shipping was negligible. I will dig out th
e receipt and give you a name and number in the next day or two. it was so
cheap=2C I cannot imagine why anyone would hesitate.
Gene
From: kmheidecpo@yahoo.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Okoume plywood
Members of the list:
With the price of Okoume=2C has anyone found a reasonable source to purchas
e this type of plywood? With truck shipping varying=2C thought I would ask
before prying open my wallet and shelling out some clams.....
KM Heide
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| Subject: | Re: Color suggestions |
Chevy Competition Orange!
:)
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Color suggestions |
Ford Blue
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Color suggestions
>
> Chevy Competition Orange!
>
> :)
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
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| Subject: | Color suggestions |
With that in mind, why not paint it pink?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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Jim,
Although I'm conservative, by nature, I really like colorful Piets! I say,
"Be bold! Let the paint reflect your out-going personality!"
But the frugal side says you have to go with what's in the cupboard (wonder
how that orange marking paint and Golden Oak stain will look....?)
Gary Boothe
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OK, per Jim Markle's suggestion, I flew my Pietenpol this morning to
celepbrate Labor Day, in the grand tradition of one BH Pietenpol. In flying
it I found that the airspeed indicator doesn't work (mud dauber in the pitot
tube) and the right brake doesn't really stop the wheel from turning, but
does make suggestions that the wheel should stop turning.
Now I've got to spend the rest of the day bleeding the brakes so I can fly
it to Culpepper VA tomorrow.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Labor Day |
C'mon Jack, Bernie flew without brakes, even on Labor Day!
And our Labor Day flights show that No. 4 exhaust valve is leaking.
Ah well, remember, we do this for fun, right?! :'(
>OK, per Jim Markle's suggestion, I flew my Pietenpol this morning to
>celepbrate Labor Day, in the grand tradition of one BH Pietenpol.
>In flying it I found that the airspeed indicator doesn't work (mud
>dauber in the pitot tube) and the right brake doesn't really stop
>the wheel from turning, but does make suggestions that the wheel
>should stop turning.
>
>Now I've got to spend the rest of the day bleeding the brakes so I
>can fly it to Culpepper VA tomorrow.
>
>Jack Phillips
>NX899JP
>Raleigh, NC
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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Don't got no Piet to fly.but I did spend the morning rigging my rudder and
elevator controls.JM said that counts. Also, a young man came over to visit,
a HS senior, looking for a mentor for his senior project.looks like it's
going to be Pietenpols!! Think I just solved my 10 remaining ribs problem..
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Happy Labor Day
C'mon Jack, Bernie flew without brakes, even on Labor Day!
And our Labor Day flights show that No. 4 exhaust valve is leaking. Ah well,
remember, we do this for fun, right?! :'(
OK, per Jim Markle's suggestion, I flew my Pietenpol this morning to
celepbrate Labor Day, in the grand tradition of one BH Pietenpol. In flying
it I found that the airspeed indicator doesn't work (mud dauber in the pitot
tube) and the right brake doesn't really stop the wheel from turning, but
does make suggestions that the wheel should stop turning.
Now I've got to spend the rest of the day bleeding the brakes so I can fly
it to Culpepper VA tomorrow.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Color suggestions |
Well, there is that pink paint in the garage left over from my last
house....
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
20 ribs done
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Color suggestions
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
With that in mind, why not paint it pink?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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Jim,
Although I'm conservative, by nature, I really like colorful Piets! I say,
"Be bold! Let the paint reflect your out-going personality!"
But the frugal side says you have to go with what's in the cupboard (wonder
how that orange marking paint and Golden Oak stain will look....?)
Gary Boothe
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| Subject: | Wing education, please advise.. |
We have the plans now, and are going though them in an effort to better understand
the construction process and to save a little more money.
This question came up:
Well I know so and so, who is building a short fues. piet. He says that he has
a different wing rib layout, and that layout will provide a better glide ratio
that the one in the plans. So and so says that the original one drops like a
rock.
This is kinda frustrating for me as I want to stick with the plans. Every aircraft
has a glide ratio, and you best distance over alt. drop will depend on air
density, weight, ect.
I also think that this other wing must also have a thicker cord, thus creating
more lift, which would produce more drag. More drag equals less airspeed.
My thinking is that if it was good enough for Mr. Pietenpol, it's going to be good
enough for me.
Anyway. What other wing could my Dad's buddy be talking about?
What is the glide ratio of the long fues. corvair powered Piet?
Is there any problem with the aircraft "dropping like a rock" if the engine quits?
I would think no more than any other aircraft, right?
Please educate me on these other wing designs people are using, and why you would
consider going away from what works, IE the plans.
Thanks for the help guys
Joe
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Work work work.
Jack
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 1:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy Labor Day
OK, per Jim Markle's suggestion, I flew my Pietenpol this morning to
celepbrate Labor Day, in the grand tradition of one BH Pietenpol. In flying
it I found that the airspeed indicator doesn't work (mud dauber in the pitot
tube) and the right brake doesn't really stop the wheel from turning, but
does make suggestions that the wheel should stop turning.
Now I've got to spend the rest of the day bleeding the brakes so I can fly
it to Culpepper VA tomorrow.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Wing education, please advise.. |
> Please educate me on these other wing designs people are using, and why you would
consider going away from what works, IE the plans.
>
Some have used the Riblett airfoil. You can search on it in the
archives. I built my wing to the plans, and it has a nicer glide ratio
than the Baby Ace I just sold with clipped Cub wings (28 ft). I have
found the Pietenpol airfoil to be very satisfactory, with a gentle
stall. As you said, why fix it if it isn't broken.
Ben
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| Subject: | antenna location-on the nose? |
I am struggling with where I can mount the antenna for my ELT right now. I could
possibly work some type of a ground plane into the tail section but it would
have been a whole lot easier before covering.what would work great is just stick
it on the front fuselage cover behind the engine. it is aluminum and would
provide a nice ground plane.I don't think it would bother me any up there as
far as sight.only thing I'm wondering about it-is would the prop-wash beat it
around and destroy it? the thing is maybe 14" long with a spring coil about 2/3
of the way up it so it would catch some blast for sure.also ideally if I did
that I'd stick the box itself under the front seat.I know most are behind in
the tail section but I didn't see anything in the instructions that said it had
to be-just mounted to primary load carrying structures such as longerons,beams,trusses
etc. Can anybody tell me if it is a bad idea to use these locations?
while it would sure work good for installation-I'm concerned about prop-wash
on the nose. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Labor Day |
Made about 200 wing rib gussets today on Labor day. :D
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| Subject: | Re: Wing education, please advise.. |
Joe,
I have flown the Pietenpol, a 4412 and the last wing is the Riblett 612 since 2004,
the test that I tried from 3000 Ft, I shut the Ford to idle. glided 9 miles
to the airport, had to side slip to the runway, an never touched the throttle
until taxi time. And my wing is clipped 2 Ft.
All on a 74 Deg. day at 850Ft. airport elevation. It is not slower, and it lifts
very well, even when I had a Werner 145 at 348 Lbs of engine up front.
I have told this a number of times, If any one wants to check it out check at
Brodhead 2011. Only if I can still get in , and remember where the throttle is.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Wing education, please advise.. |
Joe,
I really don't think the Riblett is going to give you a better glide ratio. If
someone says it 'drops like a rock' they have probably never flown draggy airplanes
from this era, and probably never flown a Piet. The Pietenpol wing is
a fantastic flying airfoil. I regularly haul 420ish pounds of passenger weight
and full fuel of 15 gallons. I have never felt concerned in any way in it's
climb. The stall is gentle and VERY slow. On landing you just have to be ready
for it to give up it's flying speed quickly, just like any old draggy airplane.
If you build it LIGHT and to the plans you will be thrilled with it!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Joe.
By the way , If you look just over the wheel, spot a point on the ground, and If
you are flying a Pietenpol airfoil, that is about where you will land.
Pieti Lowell
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Thanks for the replies.
So in summery it would seem that there is no adverse side affects to going with
a different wing, but the question would remain.. why go that route?
Looks like I need to get some stick time in a piet 8)
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Labor Day |
Labor Day: 4 day weekend for me, fortunately. Four full days of finishing the
landing gear bungee-to-spring mods and making various and sundry repairs.
If you fly them they will break...
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Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Labor Day |
winds 33 gusting to 40 Piet is in the hangar. :(
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> By the way , If you look just over the wheel, spot a point on the ground, and
If you are flying a Pietenpol airfoil, that is about where you will land.
> Pieti Lowell
>
Ya that's what my Dad's friend said, and for some reason he's all worried about
it.
AGH stick with the plans.
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Joe,
If you're ever planning to be in the Northeast Ohio area, please look me up. You'd
be welcome to get some stick time.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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You are probably refering to the Riblett 612 airfoil. If in doubt always
stay with the plans, you will be happy. If I was to build a second Piet/wing
I would probably experiment with the 612. Attached a comparison and
coordinate for both plus the 613.5 just to make things more confusing.
rick
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:02 PM, j_dunavin <j_dunavin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We have the plans now, and are going though them in an effort to better
> understand the construction process and to save a little more money.
> This question came up:
> Well I know so and so, who is building a short fues. piet. He says that he
> has a different wing rib layout, and that layout will provide a better glide
> ratio that the one in the plans. So and so says that the original one drops
> like a rock.
> This is kinda frustrating for me as I want to stick with the plans. Every
> aircraft has a glide ratio, and you best distance over alt. drop will depend
> on air density, weight, ect.
> I also think that this other wing must also have a thicker cord, thus
> creating more lift, which would produce more drag. More drag equals less
> airspeed.
> My thinking is that if it was good enough for Mr. Pietenpol, it's going to
> be good enough for me.
>
>
> Anyway. What other wing could my Dad's buddy be talking about?
> What is the glide ratio of the long fues. corvair powered Piet?
> Is there any problem with the aircraft "dropping like a rock" if the engine
> quits? I would think no more than any other aircraft, right?
>
> Please educate me on these other wing designs people are using, and why you
> would consider going away from what works, IE the plans.
>
> Thanks for the help guys
> Joe
>
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>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: antenna location-on the nose? |
OK sorry about the post-10 seconds after I hit the send button I decided that was
stupid to have it whipping around in the propwash. I got a small piece of
steel and silver soldered 6 - 1/16" welding rods in the standard pattern and
cut them to 18" with a little tiny loop bent at the ends to keep them from poking
through the fabric and mounted the antenna to it and worked it in under my
control cables and screwed it to the structure.Now I have what looks like an
acceptable ground plane from what I saw in the instructions. I'll still need to
reach in and bend the ends to clear the sides so that it is in a regular even
spread and tie-wrap them as good as I can but the antenna is inside the tail
out of sight and I'm a whole lot happier. -sometimes I see a quick fix and try
to jump on it before I realize it isn't the right one.
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When reporting something as big as a fatal airplane crash, you'd expect the
usual media screw-ups to creep in when it comes to technical details, but our
own beloved (?) EAA??
I refer you to the September issue of Sport Aviation, page 114. If you casually
peruse the obit on Jim Rice you might end up believing that the cause of his
death was an accident while flying his "Plans built Pietenpol". Such was not the
case! A bit of sleuthing on the NTSB website exonerates the Mighty Pietenpol and
points to the actual culprit.
Is this just another "Snowflake mistake" or a clever conspiracy to cast
aspersions upon our innocent little birds? I report.....you decide.
Larry W. xcg, xcmr, epp, etc.
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| Subject: | Re: Eaa conspiracy? |
As it says in the notes below the obit, these are typically family submitted.
I would suspect EAA simply published it as they received it from the family.
No conspiracy in my mind...
Now if CNN had reported it, I would be a little more skeptical.
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Hey all
I just got back from the Blakesburg, Ia. AAA fly in. It is a great fly
in. Full of antique airplanes, all OSH rejects. I mean no radios,
short grass strip and hundreds of planes you won't see anywhere else in
the world. Just look up Antique Airplane Assn. on Google.
Dick N.
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www.antiqueairfield.com
Lots of good photos on their site right now!
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Sep 6, 2010, at 8:53 PM, "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
> Hey all
> I just got back from the Blakesburg, Ia. AAA fly in. It is a great fly in
. Full of antique airplanes, all OSH rejects. I mean no radios, short gras
s strip and hundreds of planes you won't see anywhere else in the world. Ju
st look up Antique Airplane Assn. on Google.
> Dick N.
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| Subject: | cabane strut length |
Anyone have any good data on Cabane strut length. Can't find dimensions on
the drawings.
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Split Axel gear width |
Need some advice-I'm setting up my split axel with 19in wheels and
useing the plans spec of 56in gear width. Just wondering if this is what
most Piets have. Also have the top longerons at about 50in. I do not
have the tires mounted yet so height may be a bit more when done. Any
advice would be apreciated. Thanks. Steve Singleton
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Hey Dick
I spent all day Saturday up there and most of Sunday morning. We were
driving the Model A around the flight line. They said that was the most
planes and people they ever had. To bad we didn't run into to you.
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
> Hey all
> I just got back from the Blakesburg, Ia. AAA fly in. It is a great fly
> in. Full of antique airplanes, all OSH rejects. I mean no radios, short
> grass strip and hundreds of planes you won't see anywhere else in the
> world. Just look up Antique Airplane Assn. on Google.
> Dick N.
>
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>
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| Subject: | cabane strut length |
Tom B.
Dimensions are on the drawing "Complete wing strut details for improved
aircamper", this is left of the tail wheel drawing and above the drawing
with the Ford engine mount details. The dimensions are shown on the detail
of the "rear right center strut side view". Many have added an inch or two
to the length to ease entry.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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BRANT
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cabane strut length
Anyone have any good data on Cabane strut length. Can't find dimensions on
the drawings.
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Re: Color suggestions |
No! no! no! Go get yourself some British Railroad Engine Green and
paint your engine with that. Then get some BRE yellow and pinstripe
the thing. Oh, and all those accessories? Powder coat brass! :-)
Of course, if you do that then you have to have a train horn.
I don't think you should chop the blue off at the seat though. It looks
incomplete.
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/g-buco/4534056775
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Color suggestions
> I've struggled over the looks of my Model A engine and finally realize I
> need to clean it up and add some color>
> I already have black and cream and blue powder and matched industrial
> paint of the same colors and would like to use one or all of those. I
> don't want to have to buy any new paint.
>
> Maybe all black? All black big pieces with the little stuff blue? (Julia
> doesn't like that idea)
>
> Attached is a pretty close picture of my eventual overall paint scheme.
> Anyone with a better understanding of what might look good have any
> suggestions for me? Maybe I need to call a share holder's meeting to
> discuss this? :-)
>
> Seriously, I have no idea what would look good but would really appreciate
> any and all suggestions....
>
> jm
>
>
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