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     1. 03:39 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (Harvey Rule)
     2. 06:07 AM - Question about wing painting (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 07:12 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (TOM STINEMETZE)
     4. 07:16 AM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (TOM STINEMETZE)
     5. 07:17 AM - Pedal Piet plans (Oscar Zuniga)
     6. 07:39 AM - Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (Bill Church)
     7. 08:04 AM - Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF Base, Wichita, KS area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible interest (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     8. 08:08 AM - Re: Pedal Piet plans (Chet Hartley)
     9. 08:37 AM - Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (kevinpurtee)
    10. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (Ryan Mueller)
    11. 08:52 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (Dan Yocum)
    12. 08:56 AM - Re: Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF 	 Base, Wichita, KS area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible 	 interest (TOM STINEMETZE)
    13. 09:44 AM - Re: progress (Dan Yocum)
    14. 10:14 AM - Re: progress (Dan P)
    15. 10:22 AM - metal size for tail fittings (echobravo4)
    16. 11:50 AM - Re: metal size for tail fittings (Tim Willis)
    17. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: progress (Dan Yocum)
    18. 12:03 PM - Re: metal size for tail fittings (Jim Boyer)
    19. 12:52 PM - Re: Sticker (Michael Groah)
    20. 01:40 PM - Re: Sticker (TOM STINEMETZE)
    21. 01:55 PM - Re: Sticker (Kringle)
    22. 02:06 PM - Re: Sticker (Ryan Mueller)
    23. 02:07 PM - Re: Sticker (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    24. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 09/18/10 (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    25. 03:05 PM - Re: Sticker (Gary Boothe)
    26. 03:27 PM - Re: Sticker (Jim Boyer)
    27. 03:32 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (Mark M)
    28. 03:42 PM - Re: Sticker (Jack Phillips)
    29. 03:43 PM - End of yard work season (helspersew@aol.com)
    30. 04:04 PM - Re: End of yard work season (Doug Dever)
    31. 04:10 PM - Re: End of yard work season (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    32. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (Harvey Rule)
    33. 06:49 PM - Re: Sticker (Michael Groah)
    34. 08:35 PM - Re: Sticker (GliderMike)
    35. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (Clif Dawson)
    36. 08:54 PM - Re: Question about wing painting (Dick N)
    37. 09:22 PM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (GliderMike)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted | 
      
      
      YES=2Cme too!!!
      do not archive
      
      > From: vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted
      > Date: Mon=2C 20 Sep 2010 16:02:08 +1000
      > 
      et.au>
      > 
      > Greg=2C
      > 
      > Beautiful=2C its just become my desktop background.
      > 
      > Thanks
      > 
      > Peter
      > Wonthaggi Australia
      > http://www.cpc-world.com
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg
      > Cardinal
      > Sent: Monday=2C 20 September 2010 10:22 AM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted
      > 
      > Here is a higher res version.
      > It was taken on Sunday=2C September 5th on the way to the Log Cabin fly-i
      n in
      > Mondovi=2C WI.
      > 
      > We had just crossed the Mississippi River and were approaching the Chippe
      wa
      > River=2C all the ravines were filled with fog. We descended to within 50'
       of
      > the top of the fog.
      > 
      > It was a lovely flight.
      > 
      > Greg
      > 
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      > To: "Pietenpol List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday=2C September 19=2C 2010 4:39 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted
      > 
      > 
      om>
      > >
      > >
      > > Scroll to the last page of this newsletter:
      > >
      > > http://home.comcast.net/~petegavin/eaa25/eaa251009.pdf
      > >
      > > Oscar Zuniga
      > > Air Camper NX41CC
      > > San Antonio=2C TX
      > > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > 
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      > 
      > 
       		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Question about wing painting | 
      
      
      
      Robisons wrote:
      
      >I've noticed that some of the Piets have wings that allow light
      >to shine through while I was watching them fly while standing
      >on the ground looking up. How do you guys get light to show
      >through your wing after painting them?
      
      The other reply was right on the money: if you can see light through
      the wing, that means UV is getting to the fabric.  I just had the
      experience of having an A&P tell me that there may not be sufficient
      Poly-Spray (silver) on my fabric because he could see light coming
      through in places.  A punch test determined that the fabric is still
      just fine (the airplane is always hangared, rarely parked outside for
      very long, and not flown a great deal).  UV will kill synthetic fabric
      very quickly, as many tests have shown.  Search the list archives for
      Rick Holland's latex paint test- I believe his test fabric punched
      clear through in a year of exposure with no UV block.
      
      However, I've seen many instances where silver (or other UV block) is
      only used on the top surface of the wing, the side that sees most of
      the UV.  This is done to save the weight and expense of finishing the
      underside of the wings and that may be what you've noticed on some
      airplanes. 
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted | 
      
      Oh!  So THAT"S why you fly on Labor Day.  Glorious!
      
      Stinemetze
      do not archive
      
      
      >>> "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net> 9/19/2010 7:22 PM >>>
      Here is a higher res version.
      It was taken on Sunday, September 5th on the way to the Log Cabin fly-in 
      in 
      Mondovi, WI.
      
      We had just crossed the Mississippi River and were approaching the 
      Chippewa 
      River, all the ravines were filled with fog. We descended to within 50' 
      of 
      the top of the fog.
      
      It was a lovely flight.
      
      Greg
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 6 Weeks into Piet | 
      
      Dave:
      
      I applaud your perseverence!  You're making great headway.  Just a word of 
      caution, however; never compromise safety in order to make a calendar 
      appointment.  If you have to fly a while later than you planned that would 
      not be "failure" but "intelligence."
      
      Tom Stinemetze
      McPherson, KS. 
      
      
      >>> "Dave Sornborger" <dsornbor@aol.com> 9/18/2010 8:37 PM >>>
      >>>Howdy,Heres what I have gotten done in 6 weeks,gonna fly it on my 50th 
      B'day end of Feb 2011.Every weekend 9 hrs a day every weekday 2 hrs, 1 
      week of vacation 90 hrs.Dave
      
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| Subject:  | Pedal Piet plans | 
      
      
      
      I have a new and unused set of plans for the
      "Pedal Piet" for young children:
      
      http://www.pedalplanekits.com/piet.html
      
      These plans cost about $25 from Aviation Products.
      If you're interested in these plans, email me
      off-list.  If you start building today, you could
      have a Christmas present for your favorite young
      Piet pilot.  $15 to the first responder.  Thanks!
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear | 
      
      
      I would have to say that "Crocs" should NEVER be considered to be appropriate footwear.
      They ugly.
      
      BC
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313040#313040
      
      
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| Subject:  | Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF Base,  Wichita, | 
      KS  area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible interest
      
      http://www.mcconnell.af.mil/library/2010OpenHouse/index.asp
      
      do not archive
      
      Thunderbirds, Kyle and Amanda Franklin, Matt Younkin Beech 18 routine and t
      his cool jet powered school bus !
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Pedal Piet plans | 
      
      
      I would like to have them.
      Chethartley1@mchsi.com
      573-645-0534
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > 
      > I have a new and unused set of plans for the
      > "Pedal Piet" for young children:
      > 
      > http://www.pedalplanekits.com/piet.html
      > 
      > These plans cost about $25 from Aviation Products.
      > If you're interested in these plans, email me
      > off-list.  If you start building today, you could
      > have a Christmas present for your favorite young
      > Piet pilot.  $15 to the first responder.  Thanks!
      > 
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Air Camper NX41CC
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net                         
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear | 
      
      
      Now Bill, my fashion feelings are easily hurt!  I am, in fact, a fashionista.
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313048#313048
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear | 
      
      Not wearing those things you're not.  ;)
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote:
      
      > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >
      > Now Bill, my fashion feelings are easily hurt!  I am, in fact, a
      > fashionista.
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > --------
      > Kevin Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown, TX
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313048#313048
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted | 
      
      
      Wow, Greg.  Simply wow.
      
      That's my new desktop background...
      
      Thanks!
      
      do not archive
      
      On 09/19/2010 07:22 PM, Greg Cardinal wrote:
      > Here is a higher res version.
      > It was taken on Sunday, September 5th on the way to the Log Cabin fly-in
      > in Mondovi, WI.
      >
      > We had just crossed the Mississippi River and were approaching the
      > Chippewa River, all the ravines were filled with fog. We descended to
      > within 50' of the top of the fog.
      >
      > It was a lovely flight.
      >
      > Greg
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      > To: "Pietenpol List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:39 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted
      >
      >
      >> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >>
      >>
      >> Scroll to the last page of this newsletter:
      >>
      >> http://home.comcast.net/~petegavin/eaa25/eaa251009.pdf
      >>
      >> Oscar Zuniga
      >> Air Camper NX41CC
      >> San Antonio, TX
      >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF 	 Base, | 
      Wichita, KS  area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible 	 interest
      
      Only 60 miles from beautiful McPherson, KS.  You can bet the Stinemetze 
      clan will be there.
      
      Tom S.
      N328X
      do not archive
      
      
      >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy
      @nasa.gov> 9/20/2010 9:54 AM >>>
      Thunderbirds, Kyle and Amanda Franklin, Matt Younkin Beech 18 routine and 
      this cool jet powered school bus !  
      
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      Pictures, Raymond, Pictures!
      
      do not archive
      
      On 09/18/2010 08:46 PM, skellytown flyer wrote:
      > -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "skellytown flyer"<skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Well I finally got to the day yesterday when I took the fuselage and wings to
      the hangar.Not a big trip for me- in a town of 600 people you can get away with
      a lot. I towed it up on it's mains  right down main street and to my old tin
      shed hangar.spent today bolting on wings and rigging cables.still a few things
      to do including closing up the bottom of the center section now that I have
      the cables rigged in there and safety wiring the turnbuckles.but I fired it up
      and taxied it this afternoon.boy what a thrill. to think that maybe before the
      first frost this thing will be capable of flight. Did notice one of my coils
      is running rough on the Corvair. I had timed it and then noticed one set of
      points was more burned. I expected that it would smooth up with a new set of points
      and condenser. I installed them without checking the timing and when I switched
      to it this afternoon I had some power loss.so I will need to go back and
      double check gap and timing.but it has possibiliti
      
      e!
      >   s.Raymond
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312871#312871
      >
      >
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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      yocum137 wrote:
      > Pictures, Raymond, Pictures!
      > 
      > do not archive
      > -- 
      > Dan Yocum
      > 
      
      
      Hey Dan,  Look at the two pictures above your post!!!   Those are of Raymond. 
       :)
      
      --------
      Dan Plett
      N28WH
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313065#313065
      
      
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| Subject:  | metal size for tail fittings | 
      
      
      i've been going through the archives and just want to double check-
      Is .080 good for the tail fittings or should i use .090?
      Also, is .032 good for the tail control horns?
      
      I have all the wood for the tail on the way and am ready to call Dillsurg
      to order the metal for the fittings.
      
      Thanks for any help-
      Earl
      
      --------
      Earl Brown
      
      I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
      intended to be.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313067#313067
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: metal size for tail fittings | 
      
      
      The prints call for .090 in. on the tail fittings.  I recently made mine that way,
      too.  
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net>
      >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 12:19 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings
      >
      >
      >i've been going through the archives and just want to double check-
      >Is .080 good for the tail fittings or should i use .090?
      >Also, is .032 good for the tail control horns?
      >
      >I have all the wood for the tail on the way and am ready to call Dillsurg
      >to order the metal for the fittings.
      >
      >Thanks for any help-
      >Earl
      >
      >--------
      >Earl Brown
      >
      >I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where
      I intended to be.
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313067#313067
      >
      >
      
      
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      I see that now - I hadn't caught up on the backlog from the weekend.
      
      thanks!
      
      Dan
      
      do not archive
      
      On 09/20/2010 12:11 PM, Dan P wrote:
      > -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan P"<dlplett@swko.net>
      >
      >
      > yocum137 wrote:
      >> Pictures, Raymond, Pictures!
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >> --
      >> Dan Yocum
      >>
      >
      >
      > Hey Dan,  Look at the two pictures above your post!!!   Those are of Raymond.
        :)
      >
      > --------
      > Dan Plett
      > N28WH
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313065#313065
      >
      >
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: metal size for tail fittings | 
      
      
      Hi Earl,
      the control horns are all made with 0.032" steel formed to be hollow when welded
      for strength.
      Jim B.
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:38:50 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings
      
      
      The prints call for .090 in. on the tail fittings.  I recently made mine that way,
      too.  
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net>
      >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 12:19 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings
      >
      >
      >i've been going through the archives and just want to double check-
      >Is .080 good for the tail fittings or should i use .090?
      >Also, is .032 good for the tail control horns?
      >
      >I have all the wood for the tail on the way and am ready to call Dillsurg
      >to order the metal for the fittings.
      >
      >Thanks for any help-
      >Earl
      >
      >--------
      >Earl Brown
      >
      >I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where
      I intended to be.
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313067#313067
      >
      >
      
      
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      Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you'
      re =0Agonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and I'll
       make a few =0Aadditional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up the
       machine to make a =0Asticker for one of my students anyways.  =0A=0A=0AI h
      ad made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and 
      =0Adecided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo alb
      um.  =0AChris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and h
      e expressed =0Aan interest in one.  So I made him one and a few extras (Gar
      y Boothe came by to =0Avisit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent C
      hris his yet).  =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A
      From: mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      =0ASent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 
      Sticker=0A=0AJack,=0AMoffet's about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah'
      s place a couple of times =0Aa week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of st
      ickers if any are available (Mike, =0AVic?).=0ATell me where you're staying
       while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a =0Asticker hand-off.=0AMi
      ke Hardaway=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <pietfly
      r@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0AI=99ll be in San Francisco the last week
       of October.  Unfortunately, I=99ll be in =0Atraining all week with n
      o ground transportation so I won=99t be able to leave =0AMoffet Field
      .  How do I get one of those stickers?=0A> =0A>Jack  Phillips=0A>NX899JP=0A
      >Raleigh, NC=0A> =0A>=0A________________________________=0A =0A>From:owner-
      pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server
      @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe=0A>Sent: Friday, September 17, 201
      0 11:49 AM=0A>=0A>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Pietenpol-Li
      st: Sticker =0A> =0A>I think I read somewhere that Jack  Phillips was going
       to San   Francisco for =0A>business, or personal. Anyone going to that par
      t of California would have about =0A>a 4-4 =C2=BD hour drive down to Tulare
      , where Mike & Vic Groah are building their =0A>Piet. Vic also restores old
       (really, really old) cars and has a very neat =0A>personal show room. =0A>
      =0A> =0A>If you treat the Groah=99s nicely and give them lots of comp
      liments on their Piet, =0A>they most likely will bestow upon you a really c
      ool sticker for your back =0A>window.=0A> =0A>Thanks, Mike & Vic!=0A> =0A>G
      ary Boothe =0A>Cool, Ca. =0A>Pietenpol =0A>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      =0A>Tail done, Fuselage on gear =0A>(20 ribs down) =0A> =0A>  " ta
      rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =0A>tp://
      forums.matronics.com =========== =0A>_blank">http://w
      ===  =0A=0A=0A=0A      
      
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      Mike:
      
      I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for a sticker like that.
      
      Tom Stinemetze
      McPherson, KS.
      do not archive
      
      
      >>> Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> 9/20/2010 2:15 PM >>>
      Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if
      you're gonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and
      I'll make a few additional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up
      the machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways.  
      
      I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my
      plane and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's
      photo album.  Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol
      Gathering and he expressed an interest in one.  So I made him one and a
      few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still
      haven't sent Chris his yet).  
      
      
      From: mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com>
      Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      Jack,
      Moffet's about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple
      of times a week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are
      available (Mike, Vic?).
      Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner
      and a sticker hand-off.
      Mike Hardaway
      
      On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      wrote:
      
      
      Ill be in San Francisco the last week of October.  Unfortunately, Ill
      be in training all week with no ground transportation so I wont be able
      to leave Moffet Field.  How do I get one of those stickers?
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
      Boothe
      Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker 
      
      
      I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco
      for business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would
      have about a 4-4  hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are
      building their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and
      has a very neat personal show room. 
      
      If you treat the Groahs nicely and give them lots of compliments on
      their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker
      for your back window.
      
      Thanks, Mike & Vic!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down) 
      
      "
      target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listtp://forums.matronics.com
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      I'll purchase one as well.  Just post the details and I'll send you some money.
      
      --------
      John
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313103#313103
      
      
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      People in Wichita will pay $15 or $20.....
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
      
      >  *Mike:*
      > **
      > *I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for a sticker like that.*
      > **
      > *Tom Stinemetze*
      > *McPherson, KS.*
      > *do not archive*
      >
      >
      > >>> Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> 9/20/2010 2:15 PM >>>
      >  Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if
      > you're gonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and I
      'll
      > make a few additional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up the
      > machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways.
      >
      > I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane
      > and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo
      > album.  Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and
       he
      > expressed an interest in one.  So I made him one and a few extras (Gary
      > Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chri
      s
      > his yet).
      >
      >
      >  ------------------------------
      > *From:* mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com>
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Sent:* Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      >
      > Jack,
      > Moffet's about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of
      > times a week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are
      > available (Mike, Vic?).
      > Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner a
      nd
      > a sticker hand-off.
      > Mike Hardaway
      >
      > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wr
      ote:
      >
      >>  I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October.  Unfortunately, I
      =92ll
      >> be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be ab
      le to
      >> leave Moffet Field.  How do I get one of those stickers?
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Jack Phillips
      >>
      >> NX899JP
      >>
      >> Raleigh, NC
      >>
      >>
      >>  ------------------------------
      >>
      >> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      >> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Boothe
      >> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM
      >>
      >> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco f
      or
      >> business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would hav
      e
      >> about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are bu
      ilding
      >> their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a ve
      ry
      >> neat personal show room.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on t
      heir
      >> Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for yo
      ur
      >> back window.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Thanks, Mike & Vic!
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Gary Boothe
      >> Cool, Ca.
      >> Pietenpol
      >> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      >> (20 ribs down=85)
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> *
      >>
      >>
      >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      >> tp://forums.matronics.com
      >> ========
      >> =
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      >>
      >>
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      Mike Gary and others in the area, 
      
      I will be arriving Sacramento Sunday night October 31 and in Stockton  
      flying out on Monday evening. Anyone want to get together on Sunday  eveni
      ng? 
      Thanks
      
      John
      
      Do not archive 
      
      Less Yawanna
      
      
      In a message dated 9/20/2010 3:52:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      dskogrover@yahoo.com writes:
      
      
      Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if  
      you're gonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and 
       I'll 
      make a few additional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up  the
      
      machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways.  
      
      I  had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane
      
      and  decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo
      
      album.  Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and
        he 
      expressed an interest in one.  So I made him one and a few extras  (Gary
      
      Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent  Chri
      s his 
      yet).  
      
      
      ____________________________________
       From: mike Hardaway  <bkemike@gmail.com>
      Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30  PM
      Subject: Re:  Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      Jack,
      Moffet's about 40 miles from  SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of
      
      times a week.  I can  stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are 
      available (Mike,  Vic?).
      Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for  dinner
      
      and a sticker hand-off.
      Mike Hardaway
      
      On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <_pietflyr@bellsouth.net_
      
      (mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net) >  wrote:
      
      
      I=99ll be in San  Francisco the last week of October.  Unfortunately
      , I=99ll 
      be in training  all week with no ground transportation so I won=99t
       be able to 
      leave Moffet  Field.  How do I get one of those stickers? 
      Jack  Phillips 
      NX899JP 
      Raleigh,  NC 
      
      
      ____________________________________
      
      From: _owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com_ 
      (mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)   
      [mailto:_owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-pietenpo
      l-list-server@matronics.com) ]  On Behalf Of Gary  
      Boothe
      Sent: Friday,  September 17, 2010 11:49 AM  
      
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List:  Sticker  
      
      
      I think I read somewhere that  Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco fo
      r 
      business, or personal. Anyone  going to that part of California would have
      
      about a 4-4 =C2=BD hour drive down to  Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are
      
      building their Piet. Vic also  restores old (really, really old) cars and
       has a 
      very neat personal show  room.  
      If you treat the Groah=99s nicely  and give them lots of compliments
       on their 
      Piet, they most likely will  bestow upon you a really cool sticker for you
      r 
      back  window. 
      Thanks, Mike &  Vic! 
      
      Gary Boothe  
      Cool, Ca.  
      Pietenpol  
      
      WW Corvair Conversion,  mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on  gear 
      (20 ribs down)  
      
      
       " target="_blank">_http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List_
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 09/18/10 | 
      
      What were you looking to red? and how much did you want to red? Seems to me 
       the archives are full of go information to red.
      
      I have to agree with Ryan, what have you provided the rest of us to  red?
      
      John 
      
      
      In a message dated 9/19/2010 9:51:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      chethartley1@mchsi.com writes:
      
      -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: Chet Hartley  
      <chethartley1@mchsi.com>
      
      Your loss I would say!
      
      Sent from  my iPhone
      
      On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:53 AM, "Go Flying"  <flying@goflying.co> wrote:
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message  posted by: "Go Flying" <flying@goflying.co>
      > 
      > I have  decided to unsubscribe to the Matronics lists, there is nearly no
      >  traffic and no content to red.
      > 
      > Chris Norman, CEO
      >  www.digitalrealitycorp.com 
      > 
      > owner www.goflying.co 
      >  
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From:  owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      >  Pietenpol-List Digest Server
      > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:58  AM
      > To: Pietenpol-List Digest List
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List  Digest: 25 Msgs - 09/18/10
      > 
      > *
      > 
      >  =================================================
      >   Online  Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
      >  =================================================
      > 
      > Today's  complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of 
      the 
      > two  Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest 
      formatted  
      > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked  Indexes 
      > and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the  plain ASCII version 
      > of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed  with a generic text 
      editor 
      > such as Notepad or with a web browser.  
      > 
      > HTML Version:
      > 
      > 
      >  
      http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter
      >   10-09-18&Archive=Pietenpol
      > 
      > Text Version:
      >  
      > 
      >  
      http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter
      >  2010-09-18&Archive=Pietenpol
      > 
      > 
      >  ===============================================
      >   EMail  Version of Today's List Digest Archive
      >  ===============================================
      > 
      >  
      >            ----------------------------------------------------------
      >    Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
      >          ---
      >           Total Messages Posted Sat 09/18/10:  25
      >            ----------------------------------------------------------
      > 
      >  
      > Today's Message Index:
      > ----------------------
      >  
      >     1. 06:14 AM - Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In  (Larry  Morlock)
      >     2. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: Got an engine!   (Dan Yocum)
      >     3. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: Sticker   (amsafetyc@aol.com)
      >     4. 12:55 PM - Re: Photo: Axel's  Piet at home  (kevinpurtee)
      >     5. 01:08 PM - Re:  Axle Angle  (kevinpurtee)
      >     6. 01:59 PM - Re:  Got an engine!  (Billy McCaskill)
      >     7. 02:15 PM  - Appropriate Flying Footwear  (kevinpurtee)
      >      8. 02:24 PM - Glide Performance with Regular Wing   (kevinpurtee)
      >     9. 02:32 PM - 1 Year  Anniversary  (kevinpurtee)
      >    10. 03:04 PM - Re: 1 Year  Anniversary  (airlion)
      >    11. 05:05 PM - Re:  Sticker  (Jack Phillips)
      >    12. 05:35 PM - Re: 1 Year  Anniversary  (Jim Boyer)
      >    13. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Lee  Bottom Fly-In  (shad bell)
      >    14. 05:53 PM - Re: 1 Year  Anniversary  (helspersew@aol.com)
      >    15. 05:55 PM -  Related question- muffler hold-on nuts
      >  (helspersew@aol.com)
      >    16. 06:03 PM - Re: 1 Year  Anniversary  (shad bell)
      >    17. 06:40 PM - :  Appropriate Flying Footwear  (Ben Charvet)
      >    18. 06:40  PM - 6 Weeks into Piet  (Dave Sornborger)
      >    19. 06:46  PM - Re: Axle Angle  (Ben Charvet)
      >    20. 06:50 PM -  progress  (skellytown flyer)
      >    21. 06:50 PM - Re:  Related question- muffler hold-on nuts  (Ben 
      Charvet)
      >   22. 06:55 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet  (Jim Markle)
      >   23. 09:22 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet  (K5YAC)
      >     24. 09:33 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet  (Billy McCaskill)
      >   25. 09:35 PM - Re: progress  (Billy McCaskill)
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > ________________________________  Message 1
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 06:14:04  AM PST US
      > From: "Larry Morlock" <l.morlock@att.net>
      >  Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In
      > 
      > I'm planning  to go to Lee Bottom too, and would like to commune with 
      > other Piet  builders.  I have just finished covering and painting my 
      >  one-piece wing this summer in Columbus, IN, just north of Lee Bottom.   
      > Look forward to seeing some Pietenpols.
      > 
      >     Larry Morlock
      > 
      > ________________________________  Message  2
      > _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      >  Time: 11:34:12 AM PST US
      > From: Dan Yocum  <yocum137@gmail.com>
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Got an  engine!
      > 
      > 
      > Make sure you put the 6th and 7th bearings  in there to avoid the corn 
      fields
      > of
      > Illinois. 
      >  
      > Do not archive
      > 
      > -- 
      > Dan Yocum
      >  yocum137@gmail.com
      > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny  of petty things."
      > 
      > On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Kringle  <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
      > 
      >> 
      >> I received  my crankshaft back today from Moldex and picked up my case 
      from
      >  a
      > local transmission shop after cleaning.  Things are looking  better!
      >> 
      >> --------
      >> John
      >>  
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> Read this topic online  here:
      >> 
      >>  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312815#312815
      >>  
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> Attachments: 
      >>  
      >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/clean_case_649.jpg
      >>  http://forums.matronics.com//files/finished_crank_826.jpg
      >>  
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >>  
      > 
      > 
      > ________________________________  Message  3
      > _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      >  Time: 12:05:56 PM PST US
      > From: "amsafetyc@aol.com"  <amsafetyc@aol.com>
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:  Sticker
      > 
      > I agree how do we get them? Or from where or whom do  we purchase them?
      > 
      > John
      > 
      > Sent via DROID on  Verizon Wireless
      > 
      > -----Original message-----
      > From:  Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2010  00:19:12 GMT+00:00
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sticker
      >  
      > <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      > 
      > I think every one  that has a Pietenpol should have a sticker like 
      that,on  
      > their  wind screen.
      > Pieti Lowell
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic  online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312805#312805
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 4
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 12:55:40  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo: Axel's Piet at  home
      > From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >  
      > 
      > And look at that hot-rod Yaris on the left!  Looks fast  sitting there.
      > 
      > do not archive
      > 
      >  --------
      > Kevin Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown,  TX
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312846#312846
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 5
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 01:08:53  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Angle
      > From:  "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      > 
      > 
      > Tom -  I'm pretty sure I built the gear per the plans and put the big 
      tires
      >  on anyway.
      > Out of all the gear problems I've had, that angle hasn't  been an issue.
      > Agree with Skip, no toe-in or toe-out.  If you do  err towards toe-out as
      > Skip
      > says, you'll need really good  springs/bungees to keep the gear from 
      trying
      > to do the splits every  time you roll forward.  Again, straight as you can
      > get
      >  them.
      > 
      > Split Axel Kevin
      > 
      > --------
      >  Kevin Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      >  
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312847#312847
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 6
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 01:59:42  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Got an engine!
      > From:  "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
      > 
      > 
      > If I recall  Dan, it's not the corn fields in Illinois one needs to worry
      >  about,
      > it's those pesky soybean fields!
      > 
      >  [Wink]
      > 
      > --------
      > Billy McCaskill
      > Urbana,  IL
      > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      > 
      >  
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312850#312850
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 7
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 02:15:42  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Appropriate Flying Footwear
      >  From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      > 
      > 
      >  Tried to attend a fly-in in Louise, TX yesterday and today.  Got pushed  
      back
      > by
      > wxr both days.  Anyway, yesterday I didn't have  my normal shoes.  I was
      > wearing
      > Crocs (sandals).   The shoes fouled the pedals and brakes during landing -
      > all
      >  crosswinds.  On one landing I tried hard to ground loop to the left and  
      then
      > immediately to the right.  The shoes were a real  problem.
      > 
      > I wore my regular sneakers today.  Magically,  everything was fine, even 
      with
      > crosswinds.
      > 
      > Lesson  learned!  The experienced taildragger guys already know this, I  
      bet.
      > 
      > Axel
      > 
      > --------
      > Kevin  Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      > 
      >  Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312851#312851
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 8
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 02:24:26  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Glide Performance with Regular  Wing
      > From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >  
      > 
      > Non-scientific, just FYI.  I did a rough measurement of  how long I'd 
      glide
      > with
      > the engine at idle.  I dropped  ~800 feet in ~1.4 miles at ~60 mph.  Works
      > out
      > to about  9:1?
      > 
      > Making no claims, just letting you know what I saw  today.
      > 
      > Axel
      > 
      > --------
      > Kevin  Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      > 
      >  Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312852#312852
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 9
      >  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 02:32:54  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      > From:  "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      > 
      > 
      >  Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight.  165  
      hours,
      > ~475
      > landings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH,  and one new nickname.
      > 
      > Axel
      > 
      > do not  archive
      > 
      > --------
      > Kevin Purtee
      > NX899KP
      >  Austin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online  here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 10
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 03:04:33  PM PST US
      > From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
      > Subject:  Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      > 
      > 
      > That is an  impressive record  Axel,Gardiner
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original  Message ----
      > From: kevinpurtee  <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      > Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 5:30:28  PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      > 
      >  
      > Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight.   165 hours,
      > ~475
      > 
      > landings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to  B'head/OSH, and one new nickname.
      > 
      > Axel
      > 
      > do  not archive
      > 
      > --------
      > Kevin Purtee
      >  NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      > 
      > Read this  topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 11
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 05:05:34  PM PST US
      > From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      >  Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      > 
      > Hi Mike,
      >  
      > 
      > I=92m staying at the Navy Lodge.  I don=92t know what  accomodations are
      > available for dinner.  I=92m attending a  Structural Collapse Technician 
      > school
      > to get my certification  to join a FEMA disaster team.  I don=92t know 
      > how long
      >  the classes are each day, or whether I=92ll be too tired to do anything  
      > but go
      > to bed after class each day.  The class runs from  1600 hrs Oct 23 
      > through
      > 1200 hrs Oct 29.
      > 
      >  
      > But give me a call (cellphone is 919-427-4440) or send me an email  
      > (I=92ll
      > have internet access) and we=92ll see what we can  do.  I=92d like to 
      > meet you.
      > 
      > 
      > Jack  Phillips
      > 
      > NX899JP
      > 
      > Raleigh, NC
      >  
      > 
      >  _____  
      > 
      > From:  owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mike
      >  Hardaway
      > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:31 AM
      > Subject:  Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      > 
      > 
      > Jack,
      > Moffet's  about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple 
      >  of
      > times a week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if  any are
      > available (Mike, Vic?).
      > Tell me where you're staying  while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner 
      > and
      > a sticker  hand-off.
      > Mike Hardaway
      > 
      > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00  PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      > wrote:
      >  
      > I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October.   Unfortunately, 
      > I=92ll be
      > in training all week with no ground  transportation so I won=92t be able 
      > to
      > leave Moffet  Field.  How do I get one of those stickers?
      > 
      > 
      >  Jack Phillips
      > 
      > NX899JP
      > 
      > Raleigh, NC
      >  
      > 
      >  _____  
      > 
      > From:  owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
      >  Boothe
      > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      > 
      > 
      > I  think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco 
      >  for
      > business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California  would 
      > have
      > about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where  Mike & Vic Groah are 
      > building
      > their Piet. Vic also  restores old (really, really old) cars and has a 
      > very
      > neat  personal show room. 
      > 
      > 
      > If you treat the Groah=92s  nicely and give them lots of compliments on 
      > their
      > Piet, they  most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for 
      >  your
      > back window.
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks, Mike &  Vic!
      > 
      > 
      > Gary Boothe 
      > Cool, Ca. 
      >  Pietenpol 
      > 
      > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      > Tail done,  Fuselage on gear 
      > (20 ribs down=85) 
      > 
      > 
      > "  target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      >  tp://forums.matronics.com
      > =======
      > 
      >  _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      > 
      > 
      >  ________________________________  Message 12
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 05:35:01  PM PST US
      > From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
      >  Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      > 
      > 
      >  Kevin,
      > Congratulations on a great year of flying your Piet.  experiencing 
      Brodhead
      > and
      > learning which shoes to wear when  flying tail-draggers.
      > Jim B.
      > 
      > ----- Original Message  -----
      > From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:30:28 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List:  1 Year Anniversary
      > 
      > 
      > Tomorrow's the one year  anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight.  165 hours,
      > ~475
      >  landings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH, and one new nickname.
      >  
      > Axel
      > 
      > do not archive
      > 
      >  --------
      > Kevin Purtee
      > NX899KP
      > Austin/Georgetown,  TX
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 13
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 05:50:29  PM PST US
      > From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
      >  Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In
      > 
      > I am  planning on arriving around 3-5 pm on friday, possibly earlier, 
      come u
      >  p and introduce yourself, I'll be around the orange and blue piet 92GB,  
      and
      > I will try to remember my Pietenpol t-shirt.
      > -
      >  Shad
      > --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Larry Morlock <l.morlock@att.net>  wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > From: Larry Morlock  <l.morlock@att.net>
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom  Fly-In
      > 
      > 
      > I'm planning to go to Lee Bottom too, and  would like to commune with 
      other 
      > Piet builders.- I have just finished  covering and painting my one-piece w
      > ing this summer in Columbus, IN,  just north of Lee Bottom.- Look forward 
      > to seeing some  Pietenpols.
      > -
      > --- Larry Morlock
      > 
      > 
      >  =0A=0A=0A      
      > 
      >  ________________________________  Message 14
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 05:53:36  PM PST US
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      >  From: helspersew@aol.com
      > 
      > 
      > Axel,
      > 
      >  Congratulations to you and your bird. An impressive set of statistics  
      for
      > sure. Continued success, and can't wait to see the both of you  again at
      > Brodhead next year.
      > 
      > Dan Helsper
      >  Poplar Grove, IL.
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      >  From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      > Sent: Sat, Sep 18,  2010 4:30 pm
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      >  
      > 
      > mil>
      > Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat  Girl's 1st flight.  165 hours,
      > ~475 
      > andings, ~25  passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH, and one new nickname.
      > Axel
      >  do not archive
      > --------
      > evin Purtee
      > X899KP
      >  ustin/Georgetown, TX
      > 
      > 
      > ead this topic online  here:
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854
      > 
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      > 
      > ________________________________   Message 15
      > ____________________________________
      > 
      >  
      > Time: 05:55:04 PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Related  question- muffler hold-on nuts
      > From: helspersew@aol.com
      >  
      > 
      > Hello all,
      > 
      > Started in on my annual  inspection yesterday on the Aeronca Sedan. Pulled
      > the cowl and  discovered that the left muffler (6 cylinder engine) was onl
      > y being  held on by two of the six required 5/16'-28 brass exhaust nuts. 
      On
      > e  of the gaskets had completely blown out. Does anyone know of a type of
      >  brass locknut that will do in that application? I thought I might try  
      squ
      > ishing one end of the nut in a vice before I put them back on. Any  ideas?
      > 
      > Dan Helsper
      > Poplar Grove, IL.
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 16
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 06:03:16  PM PST US
      > From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
      >  Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary
      > 
      > Congrats  Kevin, on 1 safe year of flying, (See Corvair haters they can 
      last
      > ha  ha).- Sorry I did not get to Brodhead this year, I was looking forwar
      >  d to meeting you and your Piet.- Keep her flying and keep her "fat butt" 
      
      > out of the trees, er brush, er mesquete,-er-cactus, What ever kind of  v
      > egitation you fly over.
      > -
      > Shad
      > 
      >  
      > -=0A=0A=0A      
      > 
      >  ________________________________  Message 17
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 06:40:44  PM PST US
      > From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
      >  Subject: Pietenpol-List: : Appropriate Flying Footwear
      > 
      >  
      >  Glad you brought this up.  I always tell my potential  passengers to 
      > wear shoes they wouldn't mind walking out of a swamp  in.  Something I 
      > was taught 25 years ago when I was training for  my PP.  It does unsettle 
      > the potential passenger for a moment  though....
      > 
      > Ben Charvet
      > 
      > 
      > On 9/18/2010  5:13 PM, kevinpurtee wrote:
      >> -->  Pietenpol-List message  posted by:
      > "kevinpurtee"<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >>  
      >> Tried to attend a fly-in in Louise, TX yesterday and today.   Got pushed
      > back
      > by wxr both days.  Anyway, yesterday I  didn't have my normal shoes.  I 
      was
      > wearing
      > Crocs  (sandals).  The shoes fouled the pedals and brakes during landing  
      -
      > all crosswinds.  On one landing I tried hard to ground loop to  the left 
      and
      > then
      > immediately to the right.  The shoes  were a real problem.
      >> 
      >> I wore my regular sneakers  today.  Magically, everything was fine, even
      > with
      >  crosswinds.
      >> 
      >> Lesson learned!  The experienced  taildragger guys already know this, I
      > bet.
      >> 
      >>  Axel
      >> 
      >> --------
      >> Kevin Purtee
      >>  NX899KP
      >> Austin/Georgetown, TX
      >> 
      >>  
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >> 
      >>  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312851#312851
      >>  
      >> 
      > 
      > 
      > ________________________________   Message 18
      > ____________________________________
      > 
      >  
      > Time: 06:40:52 PM PST US
      > From: "Dave Sornborger"  <dsornbor@aol.com>
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into  Piet
      > 
      > Howdy,Heres what I have gotten done in 6 weeks,gonna fly  it on my 50th 
      > B'day end of Feb 2011.Every weekend 9 hrs a day every  weekday 2 hrs, 1 
      > week of vacation 90 hrs.Dave 
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > ________________________________  Message  19
      > ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      >  Time: 06:46:18 PM PST US
      > From: Ben Charvet  <bencharvet@gmail.com>
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle  Angle
      > 
      >  The way the bottom of the fuselage is shaped, on  my Pietenpol as the 
      > gear compresses and the bungees stretch, it  develops some toe-out.  With 
      > the weight off the gear it has a  very slight toe in.  When taxiing, it 
      > is neutral.  It  handles great though.
      > 
      > Ben
      > On 9/17/2010 9:35 PM, Skip  Gadd wrote:
      >> Tom, Not sure about the angle, my split axle has  springs and they are 
      >> adjustable so I can make that decision  later. I am sure that you do 
      >> not want any toe-in. Exactly  straight is best, err on the side of 
      toe-out.
      >> Skip
      >>  
      >>    ----- Original Message -----
      >>   *From:* TOM STINEMETZE  <mailto:TOMS@mcpcity.com>
      >>    *To: *Matronics  Pietenpol List <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >>   *Sent:* 9/16/2010 5:09:01 PM
      >>    *Subject:*  Pietenpol-List: Axle Angle
      >> 
      >>    *Question  concerning axle alignment on a split axle gear.  (Not a
      >>   split Axel which is a different situation  altogether.)*
      >>    **
      >>    *The plans  for the split axle gear show the use of aircraft style
      >>   balloon tires.  Those plans indicate the axles should be set  with
      >>    a 2 angle from vertical when the bungees are  fully extended.  I
      >>    am using  19" motorcycle  tires and die springs instead of the
      >>    balloons and  bungees.  Is the 2 angle still appropriate?  Is  any
      >>    toe-in or toe-out desirable?  I'm almost  ready to weld these up so
      >>    any useful information  would be very welcome.*
      >>    **
      >>     *Tom Stinemetze*
      >>    *N328X*
      >>     **
      >> 
      >>    *<>*
      >> 
      >>  *
      >> 
      >> 
      >> *
      > 
      > 
      >  ________________________________  Message 20
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 06:50:04  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress
      > From: "skellytown  flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
      > 
      > 
      > Well I finally  got to the day yesterday when I took the fuselage and 
      wings
      > to  the
      > hangar.Not a big trip for me- in a town of 600 people you can get  away 
      with
      > a lot. I towed it up on it's mains  right down main  street and to my old 
      tin
      > shed hangar.spent today bolting on wings and  rigging cables.still a few
      > things
      > to do including closing up  the bottom of the center section now that I 
      have
      > the
      > cables  rigged in there and safety wiring the turnbuckles.but I fired it 
      up
      >  and taxied it this afternoon.boy what a thrill. to think that maybe  
      before
      > the
      > first frost this thing will be capable of flight.  Did notice one of my 
      coils
      > is running rough on the Corvair. I had  timed it and then noticed one set 
      of
      > points
      > was more burned. I  expected that it would smooth up with a new set of 
      points
      > and  condenser. I installed them without checking the timing and when I
      >  switched
      > to it this afternoon I had some power loss.so I will need to  go back and
      > double check gap and timing.but it has  possibilities.Raymond
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online  here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312871#312871
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 21
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 06:50:10  PM PST US
      > From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
      >  Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Related question- muffler hold-on nuts
      >  
      >  Dan,
      > Are you sure it is 28 pitch thread?  ASS has  a 5/16 x 24 exhaust nut 
      > part 22022 for $1.11 each
      > 
      >  Ben
      > On 9/18/2010 8:52 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
      >> Hello  all,
      >> Started in on my annual inspection yesterday on the Aeronca  Sedan. 
      >> Pulled the cowl and discovered that the left muffler (6  cylinder 
      >> engine) was only being held on by two of the six  required 5/16'-28 
      >> brass exhaust nuts. One of the gaskets had  completely blown out. Does 
      >> anyone know of a type of brass locknut  that will do in that 
      >> application? I thought I might try squishing  one end of the nut in a 
      >> vice before I put them back on. Any  ideas?
      >> Dan Helsper
      >> Poplar Grove, IL.
      >>  
      >> 
      >> *
      >> 
      >> 
      >> *
      >  
      > 
      > ________________________________  Message 22
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 06:55:10  PM PST US
      > From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >  Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into Piet
      > 
      > 
      > Wow  Dave!  That's fantastic!
      > 
      > Forgive me if you've already  answered this but...where are you located?
      > 
      > Again, looks  good!
      > 
      > jm
      > 
      > -----Original Message----- 
      >  From: Dave Sornborger 
      > Sent: Sep 18, 2010 8:37 PM 
      > Subject:  Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into Piet 
      > 
      > 
      > Howdy,Heres what  I have gotten done in 6 weeks,gonna fly it on my 50th 
      B'day
      >  end
      > of Feb 2011.Every weekend 9 hrs a day every weekday 2 hrs, 1 week  of
      > vacation
      > 90 hrs.Dave
      > 
      > 
      >  ________________________________  Message 23
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 09:22:38  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet
      > From:  "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
      > 
      > 
      > You are a  madman!
      > 
      > --------
      > Mark Chouinard
      > Wings and  Center Section framed up - Working on Empannage
      > 
      > 
      > Read  this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312881#312881
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 24
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 09:33:27  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet
      > From:  "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
      > 
      > 
      > That is  AMAZING progress for having started only 6 weeks ago!  At this  
      rate,
      > you
      > should meet your projected deadline for flying your  Pietenpol!  Keep it 
      up,
      > I want to see your plane at Brodhead next  July!
      > 
      > --------
      > Billy McCaskill
      > Urbana,  IL
      > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      > 
      >  
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312883#312883
      > 
      >  
      > ________________________________  Message 25
      >  ____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 09:35:16  PM PST US
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: progress
      > From: "Billy  McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
      > 
      > 
      > Putting it all  together and taxiing your plane for the first time is a 
      great
      >  milestone!
      > Keep up the progress, and keep us updated!
      > 
      >  --------
      > Billy McCaskill
      > Urbana, IL
      > tail section  almost done, starting on ribs soon
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic  online here:
      > 
      >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312884#312884
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >  
      
      
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      John,
      
      
      Normally there is nothing more I would like to do, but I=92ll be 
      spending that
      whole weekend at CC#18 with William Wynne, snapping cranks, of which 
      mine
      may be one!!!
      
      
      Safe travels=85
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down=85) 
      
      Donot archive
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      AMsafetyC@aol.com
      Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:03 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      
      Mike Gary and others in the area, 
      
      
      I will be arriving Sacramento Sunday night October 31 and in Stockton 
      flying
      out on Monday evening. Anyone want to get together on Sunday evening? 
      
      Thanks
      
      
      John
      
      
      Do not archive 
      
      
      Less Yawanna
      
      
      In a message dated 9/20/2010 3:52:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      dskogrover@yahoo.com writes:
      
      Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if
      you're gonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and 
      I'll
      make a few additional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up the
      machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways.  
      
      I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane 
      and
      decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo 
      album.
      Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he
      expressed an interest in one.  So I made him one and a few extras (Gary
      Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent 
      Chris
      his yet).  
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      From: mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com>
      Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      Jack,
      Moffet's about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple 
      of
      times a week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are
      available (Mike, Vic?).
      Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner 
      and
      a sticker hand-off.
      Mike Hardaway
      
      On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      wrote:
      
      I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October.  Unfortunately, 
      I=92ll be
      in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be able 
      to
      leave Moffet Field.  How do I get one of those stickers?
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
      Boothe
      Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM 
      
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker 
      
      
      I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco 
      for
      business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would 
      have
      about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are 
      building
      their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a 
      very
      neat personal show room. 
      
      
      If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on 
      their
      Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for 
      your
      back window.
      
      
      Thanks, Mike & Vic!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down=85) 
      
      
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      Hi Michael,
      My wife and I will be in Visalia early in November. I would like to come see your
      Piet again if you are home and would also like a sticker if you have enough.
      Cheers,
      Jim B.
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Michael Groah" <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:15:50 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      
      Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you're gonna
      try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few
      additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a
      sticker for one of my students anyways. 
      
      I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and decided
      to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo album. Chris
      Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he expressed an
      interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit
      and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet). 
      
      
      From: mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com> 
      Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker 
      
      Jack, 
      Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of times
      a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are available (Mike,
      Vic?). 
      Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a sticker
      hand-off. 
      Mike Hardaway 
      
      
      On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips < pietflyr@bellsouth.net > wrote:
      
      
      
      Ill be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, Ill be in training
      all week with no ground transportation so I wont be able to leave Moffet
      Field. How do I get one of those stickers? 
      
      
      Jack Phillips 
      
      NX899JP 
      
      Raleigh, NC 
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe 
      Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM 
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker 
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker 
      
      
      I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for business,
      or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have about a
      4-4  hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are building their Piet.
      Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat personal
      show room. 
      
      
      If you treat the Groahs nicely and give them lots of compliments on their Piet,
      they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for your back window.
      
      
      
      Thanks, Mike & Vic! 
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done,Fuselageon gear 
      (20 ribs down) 
      
      
      " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject:  | Re: 6 Weeks into Piet | 
      
      
      I call BS!! Everyone knows it takes 2 years and 6 mos just to build 20 ribs  
           
      Gary Boothe 
      
              
        I think that if you take into account his statement that  he has wanted to do
      this for 30 years that his time line will work out just about right....
      
      Mark
      
      Now according to this line of thinking i only have 18 years 4 months and 13 days
      to go... :D  :)    :(  [Crying or Very sad]
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313118#313118
      
      
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      I=92ll happily pay for one (or more) of those stickers.  Name your 
      price!
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
      Groah
      Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:16 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      
      Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if
      you're gonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and 
      I'll
      make a few additional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up the
      machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways.  
      
      I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane 
      and
      decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo 
      album.
      Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he
      expressed an interest in one.  So I made him one and a few extras (Gary
      Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent 
      Chris
      his yet).  
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com>
      Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      
      Jack,
      Moffet's about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple 
      of
      times a week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are
      available (Mike, Vic?).
      Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner 
      and
      a sticker hand-off.
      Mike Hardaway
      
      On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      wrote:
      
      I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October.  Unfortunately, 
      I=92ll be
      in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be able 
      to
      leave Moffet Field.  How do I get one of those stickers?
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
      Boothe
      Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM
      
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker 
      
      
      I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco 
      for
      business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would 
      have
      about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are 
      building
      their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a 
      very
      neat personal show room. 
      
      
      If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on 
      their
      Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for 
      your
      back window.
      
      
      Thanks, Mike & Vic!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down=85) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | End of yard work season | 
      
      
      John Recine,
      
      
      I was just out cutting the grass and noticed that things are starting to
       slow down out there. Couldn't help remembering your rant from last year--
      - pretty inspirational to all Piet builders. Starting to get the itch?
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | End of yard work season | 
      
      
      Yard work?  I cut my grass twice this summer.  Been so dry here nothing's g
      rowing.  My yard work starts in a couple weeks.  LEAVES.   used to love Oct
      ober.  I blow leaves every day it doesn't rain in Oct.  I get absolutely no
      thing else done that month.  Sucks.
      
      Doug Dever
      In beautiful Stow Ohio
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: End of yard work season
      From: helspersew@aol.com
      
      
      John Recine=2C
      
      I was just out cutting the grass and noticed that things are starting to sl
      ow down out there. Couldn't help remembering your rant from last year--- pr
      etty inspirational to all Piet builders. Starting to get the itch?
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove=2C IL.
      
      do not archive
      
      
       		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Re: End of yard work season | 
      
      Gee Dan I am impressed that anyone would remember any of my rants, and then 
       to consider them inspirational. 
      
      Soon and not long till Buildapalooza 2011 season begins again, December and 
       I can wait, hot summer and the grass is all dead, actually got some work 
      done  last Saturday in building a mounting bracket for the tail wheel.
      
      
      Thanks for the positives Dan!
      
      John
      
      Do not Archive 
      
      Less Yawanna
      
      
      In a message dated 9/20/2010 6:43:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      helspersew@aol.com writes:
      
      
      John Recine,
      
      
      I was just out cutting the grass and  noticed that things are starting to 
      slow down out there. Couldn't help  remembering your rant from last year--- 
      pretty inspirational to all Piet  builders. Starting to get the itch?
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      do not archive
      
      
      (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) 
      (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 6 Weeks into Piet | 
      
      
      Personally if you have enough people working on it and they all know what t
      hey are doing(not like me) then I think you should be able to crank out a P
      iet just about everyother day the same way old Henry Ford used to do eh!Jus
      t imagine that=2Cready to fly next day!NOW if you can just get those people
       to work for the cost of say one Piet each so that at the end of a certain 
      period of time everybody would have one who is working on the assembly line
      .I think that was also Fords idea.The only problem you may have is "who get
      s the first Piet"?
      do not archive
      
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet
      > From: mmcfi@juno.com
      > Date: Mon=2C 20 Sep 2010 15:30:17 -0700
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > I call =9CBS!!=9D Everyone knows it takes 2 years and 6 mos j
      ust to build 20 ribs 
      > 
      > Gary Boothe 
      > 
      > 
      > I think that if you take into account his statement that he has wanted to
       do this for 30 years that his time line will work out just about right....
      > 
      > Mark
      > 
      > Now according to this line of thinking i only have 18 years 4 months and 
      13 days to go... :D :) :( [Crying or Very sad]
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313118#313118
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      > 
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      I'm not worried about getting paid for the stickers. They cost me almost not
      hing to make. For those that I end up having to ship them to, I wouldn't min
      d being reimbursed for the shipping costs. That's it. 
      
      Mike Groah
      Tulare CA
      
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Sep 20, 2010, at 3:20 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      
      
      > I=99ll happily pay for one (or more) of those stickers.  Name your p
      rice!
      >  
      > Jack Phillips
      > NX899JP
      > Raleigh, NC
      >  
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
      st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah
      > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:16 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      >  
      > Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you
      're gonna try to meet up with him.  I have a few already made up and I'll ma
      ke a few additional ones if anyone wants them.  I have to fire up the machin
      e to make a sticker for one of my students anyways.  
      > 
      > I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane a
      nd decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo albu
      m.  Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he exp
      ressed an interest in one.  So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe c
      ame by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet).
      
      > 
      > 
      >  
      > From: mike Hardaway <bkemike@gmail.com>
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      > 
      > Jack,
      > Moffet's about 40 miles from SF.  I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of t
      imes a week.  I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are availab
      le (Mike, Vic?).
      > Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner an
      d a sticker hand-off.
      > Mike Hardaway
      > 
      > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wr
      ote:
      > I=99ll be in San Francisco the last week of October.  Unfortunately,
       I=99ll be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won
      =99t be able to leave Moffet Field.  How do I get one of those sticker
      s?
      >  
      > Jack Phillips
      > NX899JP
      > Raleigh, NC
      >  
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
      st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
      > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM
      > 
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker
      >  
      > I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for
       business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have a
      bout a 4-4 =C2=BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are buil
      ding their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a v
      ery neat personal show room.
      >  
      > If you treat the Groah=99s nicely and give them lots of compliments o
      n their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker fo
      r your back window.
      >  
      > Thanks, Mike & Vic!
      >  
      > Gary Boothe 
      > Cool, Ca. 
      > Pietenpol
      > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      > (20 ribs down)
      >  
      >  
      >  
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      I want one too.  Mike send me an email at anpmikeg@yahoo.com with your address,
      and I'll send money.  If they can ever get my fingerprints done so they can do
      the required background check, I'll be moving myself and my tool box to Baton
      Rouge, to work on CRJ's.  Quick trip to Atlanta and back tomorrow to get the
      fingerprints done again.
      
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      HOMEBUILDER
      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear | 
      
      
      I dunno, Bill. I thought they were pretty snappy.
      
      Clif
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      > I would have to say that "Crocs" should NEVER be considered to be 
      > appropriate footwear. They ugly.
      >
      > BC
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      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Question about wing painting | 
      
      
      What I did on mine was to use Clear Poly tone paint with some stain pigment 
      added to it.  YOu can get it from Stits Poly fiber direct, ask for Jon 
      Goldenbaum to order.  Also add some UV protection from them .
      Dick N.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "robisons" <robisons@mattoonillinois.org>
      Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:26 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question about wing painting
      
      
      > <robisons@mattoonillinois.org>
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      > I've noticed that some of the Piets have wings that allow light to shine 
      > through while I was watching them fly while standing on the ground looking 
      > up.  How do you guys get light to show through your wing after painting 
      > them?
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| Subject:  | Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted | 
      
      
      Speaking of so much grass, do any of you Okies know if the airport at Pawnee, OK
      is still grass, next to the golf course?  I flew in there several years ago
      (mid 80's) to do a skydiving thing in celebration of some milestone on a water
      conversation lake near there.  Don't remember what milestone we were celebrating,
      other than it was the XXXth number dam built by one of the government agencies.
      I don't even remember which agency was celebrating the milestone, but I
      remember the runway.  It was almost as manicured as a golf green.  I still get
      an ear to ear grin when I think about the runway.  I've been on smooth paved
      runways that weren't as smooth as that grass was.  It was WONDERFUL!  About the
      only thing I don't miss about Oklahoma is when the wind is howling at 30 mph
      and above.  But I've seen it when the first hour after sunrise is smooth as
      glass up to 1,000 ft, and the wind is almost too light.  Two hours after the same
      sunrise, the wind is doing 25 mph or more.
      
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      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
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