---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/20/10: 37 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:39 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (Harvey Rule) 2. 06:07 AM - Question about wing painting (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 07:12 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (TOM STINEMETZE) 4. 07:16 AM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (TOM STINEMETZE) 5. 07:17 AM - Pedal Piet plans (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 07:39 AM - Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (Bill Church) 7. 08:04 AM - Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF Base, Wichita, KS area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible interest (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 8. 08:08 AM - Re: Pedal Piet plans (Chet Hartley) 9. 08:37 AM - Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (kevinpurtee) 10. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (Ryan Mueller) 11. 08:52 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (Dan Yocum) 12. 08:56 AM - Re: Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF Base, Wichita, KS area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible interest (TOM STINEMETZE) 13. 09:44 AM - Re: progress (Dan Yocum) 14. 10:14 AM - Re: progress (Dan P) 15. 10:22 AM - metal size for tail fittings (echobravo4) 16. 11:50 AM - Re: metal size for tail fittings (Tim Willis) 17. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: progress (Dan Yocum) 18. 12:03 PM - Re: metal size for tail fittings (Jim Boyer) 19. 12:52 PM - Re: Sticker (Michael Groah) 20. 01:40 PM - Re: Sticker (TOM STINEMETZE) 21. 01:55 PM - Re: Sticker (Kringle) 22. 02:06 PM - Re: Sticker (Ryan Mueller) 23. 02:07 PM - Re: Sticker (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 24. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 09/18/10 (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 25. 03:05 PM - Re: Sticker (Gary Boothe) 26. 03:27 PM - Re: Sticker (Jim Boyer) 27. 03:32 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (Mark M) 28. 03:42 PM - Re: Sticker (Jack Phillips) 29. 03:43 PM - End of yard work season (helspersew@aol.com) 30. 04:04 PM - Re: End of yard work season (Doug Dever) 31. 04:10 PM - Re: End of yard work season (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 32. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (Harvey Rule) 33. 06:49 PM - Re: Sticker (Michael Groah) 34. 08:35 PM - Re: Sticker (GliderMike) 35. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear (Clif Dawson) 36. 08:54 PM - Re: Question about wing painting (Dick N) 37. 09:22 PM - Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted (GliderMike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:50 AM PST US From: Harvey Rule Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted YES=2Cme too!!! do not archive > From: vk3eka@bigpond.net.au > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted > Date: Mon=2C 20 Sep 2010 16:02:08 +1000 > et.au> > > Greg=2C > > Beautiful=2C its just become my desktop background. > > Thanks > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://www.cpc-world.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg > Cardinal > Sent: Monday=2C 20 September 2010 10:22 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted > > Here is a higher res version. > It was taken on Sunday=2C September 5th on the way to the Log Cabin fly-i n in > Mondovi=2C WI. > > We had just crossed the Mississippi River and were approaching the Chippe wa > River=2C all the ravines were filled with fog. We descended to within 50' of > the top of the fog. > > It was a lovely flight. > > Greg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oscar Zuniga" > To: "Pietenpol List" > Sent: Sunday=2C September 19=2C 2010 4:39 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted > > om> > > > > > > Scroll to the last page of this newsletter: > > > > http://home.comcast.net/~petegavin/eaa25/eaa251009.pdf > > > > Oscar Zuniga > > Air Camper NX41CC > > San Antonio=2C TX > > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:47 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question about wing painting Robisons wrote: >I've noticed that some of the Piets have wings that allow light >to shine through while I was watching them fly while standing >on the ground looking up. How do you guys get light to show >through your wing after painting them? The other reply was right on the money: if you can see light through the wing, that means UV is getting to the fabric. I just had the experience of having an A&P tell me that there may not be sufficient Poly-Spray (silver) on my fabric because he could see light coming through in places. A punch test determined that the fabric is still just fine (the airplane is always hangared, rarely parked outside for very long, and not flown a great deal). UV will kill synthetic fabric very quickly, as many tests have shown. Search the list archives for Rick Holland's latex paint test- I believe his test fabric punched clear through in a year of exposure with no UV block. However, I've seen many instances where silver (or other UV block) is only used on the top surface of the wing, the side that sees most of the UV. This is done to save the weight and expense of finishing the underside of the wings and that may be what you've noticed on some airplanes. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:38 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted Oh! So THAT"S why you fly on Labor Day. Glorious! Stinemetze do not archive >>> "Greg Cardinal" 9/19/2010 7:22 PM >>> Here is a higher res version. It was taken on Sunday, September 5th on the way to the Log Cabin fly-in in Mondovi, WI. We had just crossed the Mississippi River and were approaching the Chippewa River, all the ravines were filled with fog. We descended to within 50' of the top of the fog. It was a lovely flight. Greg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:53 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into Piet Dave: I applaud your perseverence! You're making great headway. Just a word of caution, however; never compromise safety in order to make a calendar appointment. If you have to fly a while later than you planned that would not be "failure" but "intelligence." Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. >>> "Dave Sornborger" 9/18/2010 8:37 PM >>> >>>Howdy,Heres what I have gotten done in 6 weeks,gonna fly it on my 50th B'day end of Feb 2011.Every weekend 9 hrs a day every weekday 2 hrs, 1 week of vacation 90 hrs.Dave ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:42 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pedal Piet plans I have a new and unused set of plans for the "Pedal Piet" for young children: http://www.pedalplanekits.com/piet.html These plans cost about $25 from Aviation Products. If you're interested in these plans, email me off-list. If you start building today, you could have a Christmas present for your favorite young Piet pilot. $15 to the first responder. Thanks! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear From: "Bill Church" I would have to say that "Crocs" should NEVER be considered to be appropriate footwear. They ugly. BC DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313040#313040 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:36 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF Base, Wichita, KS area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible interest http://www.mcconnell.af.mil/library/2010OpenHouse/index.asp do not archive Thunderbirds, Kyle and Amanda Franklin, Matt Younkin Beech 18 routine and t his cool jet powered school bus ! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pedal Piet plans From: Chet Hartley I would like to have them. Chethartley1@mchsi.com 573-645-0534 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > I have a new and unused set of plans for the > "Pedal Piet" for young children: > > http://www.pedalplanekits.com/piet.html > > These plans cost about $25 from Aviation Products. > If you're interested in these plans, email me > off-list. If you start building today, you could > have a Christmas present for your favorite young > Piet pilot. $15 to the first responder. Thanks! > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear From: "kevinpurtee" Now Bill, my fashion feelings are easily hurt! I am, in fact, a fashionista. do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313048#313048 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear From: Ryan Mueller Not wearing those things you're not. ;) Ryan do not archive On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, kevinpurtee wrote: > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Now Bill, my fashion feelings are easily hurt! I am, in fact, a > fashionista. > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313048#313048 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:05 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted Wow, Greg. Simply wow. That's my new desktop background... Thanks! do not archive On 09/19/2010 07:22 PM, Greg Cardinal wrote: > Here is a higher res version. > It was taken on Sunday, September 5th on the way to the Log Cabin fly-in > in Mondovi, WI. > > We had just crossed the Mississippi River and were approaching the > Chippewa River, all the ravines were filled with fog. We descended to > within 50' of the top of the fog. > > It was a lovely flight. > > Greg > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" > To: "Pietenpol List" > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:39 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted > > >> >> >> >> Scroll to the last page of this newsletter: >> >> http://home.comcast.net/~petegavin/eaa25/eaa251009.pdf >> >> Oscar Zuniga >> Air Camper NX41CC >> San Antonio, TX >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >> >> >> >> -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:23 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Off Topic: For anyone near McConnell USAF Base, Wichita, KS area--- Air Show this weekend, of possible interest Only 60 miles from beautiful McPherson, KS. You can bet the Stinemetze clan will be there. Tom S. N328X do not archive >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" 9/20/2010 9:54 AM >>> Thunderbirds, Kyle and Amanda Franklin, Matt Younkin Beech 18 routine and this cool jet powered school bus ! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:41 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: progress Pictures, Raymond, Pictures! do not archive On 09/18/2010 08:46 PM, skellytown flyer wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "skellytown flyer" > > Well I finally got to the day yesterday when I took the fuselage and wings to the hangar.Not a big trip for me- in a town of 600 people you can get away with a lot. I towed it up on it's mains right down main street and to my old tin shed hangar.spent today bolting on wings and rigging cables.still a few things to do including closing up the bottom of the center section now that I have the cables rigged in there and safety wiring the turnbuckles.but I fired it up and taxied it this afternoon.boy what a thrill. to think that maybe before the first frost this thing will be capable of flight. Did notice one of my coils is running rough on the Corvair. I had timed it and then noticed one set of points was more burned. I expected that it would smooth up with a new set of points and condenser. I installed them without checking the timing and when I switched to it this afternoon I had some power loss.so I will need to go back and double check gap and timing.but it has possibiliti e! > s.Raymond > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312871#312871 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: progress From: "Dan P" yocum137 wrote: > Pictures, Raymond, Pictures! > > do not archive > -- > Dan Yocum > Hey Dan, Look at the two pictures above your post!!! Those are of Raymond. :) -------- Dan Plett N28WH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313065#313065 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings From: "echobravo4" i've been going through the archives and just want to double check- Is .080 good for the tail fittings or should i use .090? Also, is .032 good for the tail control horns? I have all the wood for the tail on the way and am ready to call Dillsurg to order the metal for the fittings. Thanks for any help- Earl -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313067#313067 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:47 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings The prints call for .090 in. on the tail fittings. I recently made mine that way, too. -----Original Message----- >From: echobravo4 >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 12:19 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings > > >i've been going through the archives and just want to double check- >Is .080 good for the tail fittings or should i use .090? >Also, is .032 good for the tail control horns? > >I have all the wood for the tail on the way and am ready to call Dillsurg >to order the metal for the fittings. > >Thanks for any help- >Earl > >-------- >Earl Brown > >I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313067#313067 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:49 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: progress I see that now - I hadn't caught up on the backlog from the weekend. thanks! Dan do not archive On 09/20/2010 12:11 PM, Dan P wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan P" > > > yocum137 wrote: >> Pictures, Raymond, Pictures! >> >> do not archive >> -- >> Dan Yocum >> > > > Hey Dan, Look at the two pictures above your post!!! Those are of Raymond. :) > > -------- > Dan Plett > N28WH > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313065#313065 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:34 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings Hi Earl, the control horns are all made with 0.032" steel formed to be hollow when welded for strength. Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Willis" Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:38:50 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings The prints call for .090 in. on the tail fittings. I recently made mine that way, too. -----Original Message----- >From: echobravo4 >Sent: Sep 20, 2010 12:19 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: metal size for tail fittings > > >i've been going through the archives and just want to double check- >Is .080 good for the tail fittings or should i use .090? >Also, is .032 good for the tail control horns? > >I have all the wood for the tail on the way and am ready to call Dillsurg >to order the metal for the fittings. > >Thanks for any help- >Earl > >-------- >Earl Brown > >I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313067#313067 > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:15 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you' re =0Agonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few =0Aadditional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a =0Asticker for one of my students anyways. =0A=0A=0AI h ad made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and =0Adecided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo alb um. =0AChris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and h e expressed =0Aan interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gar y Boothe came by to =0Avisit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent C hris his yet). =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: mike Hardaway =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker=0A=0AJack,=0AMoffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah' s place a couple of times =0Aa week. I can stop in and snag a couple of st ickers if any are available (Mike, =0AVic?).=0ATell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a =0Asticker hand-off.=0AMi ke Hardaway=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:=0A=0AI=99ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, I=99ll be in =0Atraining all week with n o ground transportation so I won=99t be able to leave =0AMoffet Field . How do I get one of those stickers?=0A> =0A>Jack Phillips=0A>NX899JP=0A >Raleigh, NC=0A> =0A>=0A________________________________=0A =0A>From:owner- pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe=0A>Sent: Friday, September 17, 201 0 11:49 AM=0A>=0A>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Pietenpol-Li st: Sticker =0A> =0A>I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for =0A>business, or personal. Anyone going to that par t of California would have about =0A>a 4-4 =C2=BD hour drive down to Tulare , where Mike & Vic Groah are building their =0A>Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat =0A>personal show room. =0A> =0A> =0A>If you treat the Groah=99s nicely and give them lots of comp liments on their Piet, =0A>they most likely will bestow upon you a really c ool sticker for your back =0A>window.=0A> =0A>Thanks, Mike & Vic!=0A> =0A>G ary Boothe =0A>Cool, Ca. =0A>Pietenpol =0A>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted =0A>Tail done, Fuselage on gear =0A>(20 ribs down) =0A> =0A> " ta rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =0A>tp:// forums.matronics.com =========== =0A>_blank">http://w === =0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:26 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Mike: I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for a sticker like that. Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. do not archive >>> Michael Groah 9/20/2010 2:15 PM >>> Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo album. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he expressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet). From: mike Hardaway Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Jack, Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are available (Mike, Vic?). Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a sticker hand-off. Mike Hardaway On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: Ill be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, Ill be in training all week with no ground transportation so I wont be able to leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have about a 4-4 hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are building their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat personal show room. If you treat the Groahs nicely and give them lots of compliments on their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for your back window. Thanks, Mike & Vic! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down) " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listtp://forums.matronics.com ======== == _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Naviga======================== k" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com_a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contr=== ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:55:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sticker From: "Kringle" I'll purchase one as well. Just post the details and I'll send you some money. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313103#313103 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker From: Ryan Mueller People in Wichita will pay $15 or $20..... do not archive On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *Mike:* > ** > *I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for a sticker like that.* > ** > *Tom Stinemetze* > *McPherson, KS.* > *do not archive* > > > >>> Michael Groah 9/20/2010 2:15 PM >>> > Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if > you're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I 'll > make a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the > machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. > > I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane > and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo > album. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he > expressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary > Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chri s > his yet). > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* mike Hardaway > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > Jack, > Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of > times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are > available (Mike, Vic?). > Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner a nd > a sticker hand-off. > Mike Hardaway > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips wr ote: > >> I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, I =92ll >> be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be ab le to >> leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> Raleigh, NC >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Boothe >> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM >> >> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Sticker >> >> >> >> I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco f or >> business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would hav e >> about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are bu ilding >> their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a ve ry >> neat personal show room. >> >> >> >> If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on t heir >> Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for yo ur >> back window. >> >> >> >> Thanks, Mike & Vic! >> >> >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear >> (20 ribs down=85) >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> ======== >> = >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > *http://www.matronics.com/Naviga============= > k" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/co ntr=== > * > > > * > > > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ics.com > .matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:22 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Mike Gary and others in the area, I will be arriving Sacramento Sunday night October 31 and in Stockton flying out on Monday evening. Anyone want to get together on Sunday eveni ng? Thanks John Do not archive Less Yawanna In a message dated 9/20/2010 3:52:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dskogrover@yahoo.com writes: Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo album. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he expressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chri s his yet). ____________________________________ From: mike Hardaway Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Jack, Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are available (Mike, Vic?). Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a sticker hand-off. Mike Hardaway On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips <_pietflyr@bellsouth.net_ (mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net) > wrote: I=99ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately , I=99ll be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=99t be able to leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC ____________________________________ From: _owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com) [mailto:_owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-pietenpo l-list-server@matronics.com) ] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco fo r business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have about a 4-4 =C2=BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are building their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat personal show room. If you treat the Groah=99s nicely and give them lots of compliments on their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for you r back window. Thanks, Mike & Vic! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down) " target="_blank">_http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List_ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) tp://forums.matronics.com ======== = _blank">_http://www.matronics.com/contribution_ (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) http://www.matronics.com/Naviga============== ========== k" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/con tr==== ======================== ============ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) ======================== ============ ======================== ============ (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ======================== ============ ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:44 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 09/18/10 What were you looking to red? and how much did you want to red? Seems to me the archives are full of go information to red. I have to agree with Ryan, what have you provided the rest of us to red? John In a message dated 9/19/2010 9:51:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, chethartley1@mchsi.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Chet Hartley Your loss I would say! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:53 AM, "Go Flying" wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Go Flying" > > I have decided to unsubscribe to the Matronics lists, there is nearly no > traffic and no content to red. > > Chris Norman, CEO > www.digitalrealitycorp.com > > owner www.goflying.co > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Pietenpol-List Digest Server > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:58 AM > To: Pietenpol-List Digest List > Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 09/18/10 > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter > 10-09-18&Archive=Pietenpol > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter > 2010-09-18&Archive=Pietenpol > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Pietenpol-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 09/18/10: 25 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:14 AM - Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In (Larry Morlock) > 2. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: Got an engine! (Dan Yocum) > 3. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: Sticker (amsafetyc@aol.com) > 4. 12:55 PM - Re: Photo: Axel's Piet at home (kevinpurtee) > 5. 01:08 PM - Re: Axle Angle (kevinpurtee) > 6. 01:59 PM - Re: Got an engine! (Billy McCaskill) > 7. 02:15 PM - Appropriate Flying Footwear (kevinpurtee) > 8. 02:24 PM - Glide Performance with Regular Wing (kevinpurtee) > 9. 02:32 PM - 1 Year Anniversary (kevinpurtee) > 10. 03:04 PM - Re: 1 Year Anniversary (airlion) > 11. 05:05 PM - Re: Sticker (Jack Phillips) > 12. 05:35 PM - Re: 1 Year Anniversary (Jim Boyer) > 13. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In (shad bell) > 14. 05:53 PM - Re: 1 Year Anniversary (helspersew@aol.com) > 15. 05:55 PM - Related question- muffler hold-on nuts > (helspersew@aol.com) > 16. 06:03 PM - Re: 1 Year Anniversary (shad bell) > 17. 06:40 PM - : Appropriate Flying Footwear (Ben Charvet) > 18. 06:40 PM - 6 Weeks into Piet (Dave Sornborger) > 19. 06:46 PM - Re: Axle Angle (Ben Charvet) > 20. 06:50 PM - progress (skellytown flyer) > 21. 06:50 PM - Re: Related question- muffler hold-on nuts (Ben Charvet) > 22. 06:55 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (Jim Markle) > 23. 09:22 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (K5YAC) > 24. 09:33 PM - Re: 6 Weeks into Piet (Billy McCaskill) > 25. 09:35 PM - Re: progress (Billy McCaskill) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:14:04 AM PST US > From: "Larry Morlock" > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In > > I'm planning to go to Lee Bottom too, and would like to commune with > other Piet builders. I have just finished covering and painting my > one-piece wing this summer in Columbus, IN, just north of Lee Bottom. > Look forward to seeing some Pietenpols. > > Larry Morlock > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:34:12 AM PST US > From: Dan Yocum > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Got an engine! > > > Make sure you put the 6th and 7th bearings in there to avoid the corn fields > of > Illinois. > > Do not archive > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Kringle wrote: > >> >> I received my crankshaft back today from Moldex and picked up my case from > a > local transmission shop after cleaning. Things are looking better! >> >> -------- >> John >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312815#312815 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/clean_case_649.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/finished_crank_826.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:05:56 PM PST US > From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sticker > > I agree how do we get them? Or from where or whom do we purchase them? > > John > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Pieti Lowell > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2010 00:19:12 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sticker > > > > I think every one that has a Pietenpol should have a sticker like that,on > their wind screen. > Pieti Lowell > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312805#312805 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:55:40 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo: Axel's Piet at home > From: "kevinpurtee" > > > And look at that hot-rod Yaris on the left! Looks fast sitting there. > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312846#312846 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:08:53 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle Angle > From: "kevinpurtee" > > > Tom - I'm pretty sure I built the gear per the plans and put the big tires > on anyway. > Out of all the gear problems I've had, that angle hasn't been an issue. > Agree with Skip, no toe-in or toe-out. If you do err towards toe-out as > Skip > says, you'll need really good springs/bungees to keep the gear from trying > to do the splits every time you roll forward. Again, straight as you can > get > them. > > Split Axel Kevin > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312847#312847 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:59:42 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Got an engine! > From: "Billy McCaskill" > > > If I recall Dan, it's not the corn fields in Illinois one needs to worry > about, > it's those pesky soybean fields! > > [Wink] > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312850#312850 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:15:42 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Appropriate Flying Footwear > From: "kevinpurtee" > > > Tried to attend a fly-in in Louise, TX yesterday and today. Got pushed back > by > wxr both days. Anyway, yesterday I didn't have my normal shoes. I was > wearing > Crocs (sandals). The shoes fouled the pedals and brakes during landing - > all > crosswinds. On one landing I tried hard to ground loop to the left and then > immediately to the right. The shoes were a real problem. > > I wore my regular sneakers today. Magically, everything was fine, even with > crosswinds. > > Lesson learned! The experienced taildragger guys already know this, I bet. > > Axel > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312851#312851 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:24:26 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Glide Performance with Regular Wing > From: "kevinpurtee" > > > Non-scientific, just FYI. I did a rough measurement of how long I'd glide > with > the engine at idle. I dropped ~800 feet in ~1.4 miles at ~60 mph. Works > out > to about 9:1? > > Making no claims, just letting you know what I saw today. > > Axel > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312852#312852 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:32:54 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > From: "kevinpurtee" > > > Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight. 165 hours, > ~475 > landings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH, and one new nickname. > > Axel > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:04:33 PM PST US > From: airlion > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > > > That is an impressive record Axel,Gardiner > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: kevinpurtee > Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 5:30:28 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > > > Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight. 165 hours, > ~475 > > landings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH, and one new nickname. > > Axel > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:05:34 PM PST US > From: "Jack Phillips" > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > Hi Mike, > > > I=92m staying at the Navy Lodge. I don=92t know what accomodations are > available for dinner. I=92m attending a Structural Collapse Technician > school > to get my certification to join a FEMA disaster team. I don=92t know > how long > the classes are each day, or whether I=92ll be too tired to do anything > but go > to bed after class each day. The class runs from 1600 hrs Oct 23 > through > 1200 hrs Oct 29. > > > But give me a call (cellphone is 919-427-4440) or send me an email > (I=92ll > have internet access) and we=92ll see what we can do. I=92d like to > meet you. > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Raleigh, NC > > > _____ > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mike > Hardaway > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:31 AM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > > Jack, > Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple > of > times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are > available (Mike, Vic?). > Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner > and > a sticker hand-off. > Mike Hardaway > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips > wrote: > > I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, > I=92ll be > in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be able > to > leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Raleigh, NC > > > _____ > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary > Boothe > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > > I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco > for > business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would > have > about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are > building > their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a > very > neat personal show room. > > > If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on > their > Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for > your > back window. > > > Thanks, Mike & Vic! > > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (20 ribs down=85) > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > ======= > > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ________________________________ Message 12 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:35:01 PM PST US > From: Jim Boyer > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > > > Kevin, > Congratulations on a great year of flying your Piet. experiencing Brodhead > and > learning which shoes to wear when flying tail-draggers. > Jim B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kevinpurtee" > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:30:28 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > > > Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight. 165 hours, > ~475 > landings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH, and one new nickname. > > Axel > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854 > > > ________________________________ Message 13 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:50:29 PM PST US > From: shad bell > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In > > I am planning on arriving around 3-5 pm on friday, possibly earlier, come u > p and introduce yourself, I'll be around the orange and blue piet 92GB, and > I will try to remember my Pietenpol t-shirt. > - > Shad > --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Larry Morlock wrote: > > > From: Larry Morlock > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lee Bottom Fly-In > > > I'm planning to go to Lee Bottom too, and would like to commune with other > Piet builders.- I have just finished covering and painting my one-piece w > ing this summer in Columbus, IN, just north of Lee Bottom.- Look forward > to seeing some Pietenpols. > - > --- Larry Morlock > > > =0A=0A=0A > > ________________________________ Message 14 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:53:36 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > From: helspersew@aol.com > > > Axel, > > Congratulations to you and your bird. An impressive set of statistics for > sure. Continued success, and can't wait to see the both of you again at > Brodhead next year. > > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kevinpurtee > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2010 4:30 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > > > mil> > Tomorrow's the one year anniversary of Fat Girl's 1st flight. 165 hours, > ~475 > andings, ~25 passengers, 1 trip to B'head/OSH, and one new nickname. > Axel > do not archive > -------- > evin Purtee > X899KP > ustin/Georgetown, TX > > > ead this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312854#312854 > > > ======================= > ========== > -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > - > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > - > -======================= > ======================= > ========== > -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > - > -= --> http://forums.matronics.com > - > -======================= > ======================= > ========== > -= - List Contribution Web Site - > -= Thank you for your generous support! > -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -======================= > ======================= > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 15 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:55:04 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Related question- muffler hold-on nuts > From: helspersew@aol.com > > > Hello all, > > Started in on my annual inspection yesterday on the Aeronca Sedan. Pulled > the cowl and discovered that the left muffler (6 cylinder engine) was onl > y being held on by two of the six required 5/16'-28 brass exhaust nuts. On > e of the gaskets had completely blown out. Does anyone know of a type of > brass locknut that will do in that application? I thought I might try squ > ishing one end of the nut in a vice before I put them back on. Any ideas? > > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > > ________________________________ Message 16 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:03:16 PM PST US > From: shad bell > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1 Year Anniversary > > Congrats Kevin, on 1 safe year of flying, (See Corvair haters they can last > ha ha).- Sorry I did not get to Brodhead this year, I was looking forwar > d to meeting you and your Piet.- Keep her flying and keep her "fat butt" > out of the trees, er brush, er mesquete,-er-cactus, What ever kind of v > egitation you fly over. > - > Shad > > > -=0A=0A=0A > > ________________________________ Message 17 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:40:44 PM PST US > From: Ben Charvet > Subject: Pietenpol-List: : Appropriate Flying Footwear > > > Glad you brought this up. I always tell my potential passengers to > wear shoes they wouldn't mind walking out of a swamp in. Something I > was taught 25 years ago when I was training for my PP. It does unsettle > the potential passenger for a moment though.... > > Ben Charvet > > > On 9/18/2010 5:13 PM, kevinpurtee wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > "kevinpurtee" >> >> Tried to attend a fly-in in Louise, TX yesterday and today. Got pushed > back > by wxr both days. Anyway, yesterday I didn't have my normal shoes. I was > wearing > Crocs (sandals). The shoes fouled the pedals and brakes during landing - > all crosswinds. On one landing I tried hard to ground loop to the left and > then > immediately to the right. The shoes were a real problem. >> >> I wore my regular sneakers today. Magically, everything was fine, even > with > crosswinds. >> >> Lesson learned! The experienced taildragger guys already know this, I > bet. >> >> Axel >> >> -------- >> Kevin Purtee >> NX899KP >> Austin/Georgetown, TX >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312851#312851 >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 18 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:40:52 PM PST US > From: "Dave Sornborger" > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into Piet > > Howdy,Heres what I have gotten done in 6 weeks,gonna fly it on my 50th > B'day end of Feb 2011.Every weekend 9 hrs a day every weekday 2 hrs, 1 > week of vacation 90 hrs.Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:46:18 PM PST US > From: Ben Charvet > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle Angle > > The way the bottom of the fuselage is shaped, on my Pietenpol as the > gear compresses and the bungees stretch, it develops some toe-out. With > the weight off the gear it has a very slight toe in. When taxiing, it > is neutral. It handles great though. > > Ben > On 9/17/2010 9:35 PM, Skip Gadd wrote: >> Tom, Not sure about the angle, my split axle has springs and they are >> adjustable so I can make that decision later. I am sure that you do >> not want any toe-in. Exactly straight is best, err on the side of toe-out. >> Skip >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* TOM STINEMETZE >> *To: *Matronics Pietenpol List >> *Sent:* 9/16/2010 5:09:01 PM >> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Axle Angle >> >> *Question concerning axle alignment on a split axle gear. (Not a >> split Axel which is a different situation altogether.)* >> ** >> *The plans for the split axle gear show the use of aircraft style >> balloon tires. Those plans indicate the axles should be set with >> a 2 angle from vertical when the bungees are fully extended. I >> am using 19" motorcycle tires and die springs instead of the >> balloons and bungees. Is the 2 angle still appropriate? Is any >> toe-in or toe-out desirable? I'm almost ready to weld these up so >> any useful information would be very welcome.* >> ** >> *Tom Stinemetze* >> *N328X* >> ** >> >> *<>* >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 20 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:50:04 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress > From: "skellytown flyer" > > > Well I finally got to the day yesterday when I took the fuselage and wings > to the > hangar.Not a big trip for me- in a town of 600 people you can get away with > a lot. I towed it up on it's mains right down main street and to my old tin > shed hangar.spent today bolting on wings and rigging cables.still a few > things > to do including closing up the bottom of the center section now that I have > the > cables rigged in there and safety wiring the turnbuckles.but I fired it up > and taxied it this afternoon.boy what a thrill. to think that maybe before > the > first frost this thing will be capable of flight. Did notice one of my coils > is running rough on the Corvair. I had timed it and then noticed one set of > points > was more burned. I expected that it would smooth up with a new set of points > and condenser. I installed them without checking the timing and when I > switched > to it this afternoon I had some power loss.so I will need to go back and > double check gap and timing.but it has possibilities.Raymond > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312871#312871 > > > ________________________________ Message 21 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:50:10 PM PST US > From: Ben Charvet > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Related question- muffler hold-on nuts > > Dan, > Are you sure it is 28 pitch thread? ASS has a 5/16 x 24 exhaust nut > part 22022 for $1.11 each > > Ben > On 9/18/2010 8:52 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: >> Hello all, >> Started in on my annual inspection yesterday on the Aeronca Sedan. >> Pulled the cowl and discovered that the left muffler (6 cylinder >> engine) was only being held on by two of the six required 5/16'-28 >> brass exhaust nuts. One of the gaskets had completely blown out. Does >> anyone know of a type of brass locknut that will do in that >> application? I thought I might try squishing one end of the nut in a >> vice before I put them back on. Any ideas? >> Dan Helsper >> Poplar Grove, IL. >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 22 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:55:10 PM PST US > From: Jim Markle > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into Piet > > > Wow Dave! That's fantastic! > > Forgive me if you've already answered this but...where are you located? > > Again, looks good! > > jm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Sornborger > Sent: Sep 18, 2010 8:37 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 6 Weeks into Piet > > > Howdy,Heres what I have gotten done in 6 weeks,gonna fly it on my 50th B'day > end > of Feb 2011.Every weekend 9 hrs a day every weekday 2 hrs, 1 week of > vacation > 90 hrs.Dave > > > ________________________________ Message 23 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:22:38 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet > From: "K5YAC" > > > You are a madman! > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings and Center Section framed up - Working on Empannage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312881#312881 > > > ________________________________ Message 24 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:33:27 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet > From: "Billy McCaskill" > > > That is AMAZING progress for having started only 6 weeks ago! At this rate, > you > should meet your projected deadline for flying your Pietenpol! Keep it up, > I want to see your plane at Brodhead next July! > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312883#312883 > > > ________________________________ Message 25 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:35:16 PM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: progress > From: "Billy McCaskill" > > > Putting it all together and taxiing your plane for the first time is a great > milestone! > Keep up the progress, and keep us updated! > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312884#312884 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:42 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sticker John, Normally there is nothing more I would like to do, but I=92ll be spending that whole weekend at CC#18 with William Wynne, snapping cranks, of which mine may be one!!! Safe travels=85 Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down=85) Donot archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Mike Gary and others in the area, I will be arriving Sacramento Sunday night October 31 and in Stockton flying out on Monday evening. Anyone want to get together on Sunday evening? Thanks John Do not archive Less Yawanna In a message dated 9/20/2010 3:52:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dskogrover@yahoo.com writes: Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo album. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he expressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet). _____ From: mike Hardaway Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Jack, Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are available (Mike, Vic?). Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a sticker hand-off. Mike Hardaway On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, I=92ll be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be able to leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are building their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat personal show room. If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for your back window. Thanks, Mike & Vic! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down=85) " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com ======== = _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Naviga============== ========== k" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contr=== t href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:27 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Hi Michael, My wife and I will be in Visalia early in November. I would like to come see your Piet again if you are home and would also like a sticker if you have enough. Cheers, Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Groah" Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:15:50 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo album. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he expressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet). From: mike Hardaway Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Jack, Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are available (Mike, Vic?). Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a sticker hand-off. Mike Hardaway On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips < pietflyr@bellsouth.net > wrote: Ill be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, Ill be in training all week with no ground transportation so I wont be able to leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have about a 4-4 hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are building their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat personal show room. If you treat the Groahs nicely and give them lots of compliments on their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for your back window. Thanks, Mike & Vic! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done,Fuselageon gear (20 ribs down) " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com ========= = _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Naviga======================= k" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contr==== ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet From: "Mark M" I call BS!! Everyone knows it takes 2 years and 6 mos just to build 20 ribs Gary Boothe I think that if you take into account his statement that he has wanted to do this for 30 years that his time line will work out just about right.... Mark Now according to this line of thinking i only have 18 years 4 months and 13 days to go... :D :) :( [Crying or Very sad] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313118#313118 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:38 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I=92ll happily pay for one (or more) of those stickers. Name your price! Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll make a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machine to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane and decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo album. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he expressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe came by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet). _____ From: mike Hardaway Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker Jack, Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of times a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are available (Mike, Vic?). Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner and a sticker hand-off. Mike Hardaway On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: I=92ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, I=92ll be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won=92t be able to leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those stickers? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have about a 4-4 =BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are building their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a very neat personal show room. If you treat the Groah=92s nicely and give them lots of compliments on their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker for your back window. Thanks, Mike & Vic! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down=85) " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com ======== = _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://forums.matronics.com _a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contr=== ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: End of yard work season From: helspersew@aol.com John Recine, I was just out cutting the grass and noticed that things are starting to slow down out there. Couldn't help remembering your rant from last year-- - pretty inspirational to all Piet builders. Starting to get the itch? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:19 PM PST US From: Doug Dever Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: End of yard work season Yard work? I cut my grass twice this summer. Been so dry here nothing's g rowing. My yard work starts in a couple weeks. LEAVES. used to love Oct ober. I blow leaves every day it doesn't rain in Oct. I get absolutely no thing else done that month. Sucks. Doug Dever In beautiful Stow Ohio Subject: Pietenpol-List: End of yard work season From: helspersew@aol.com John Recine=2C I was just out cutting the grass and noticed that things are starting to sl ow down out there. Couldn't help remembering your rant from last year--- pr etty inspirational to all Piet builders. Starting to get the itch? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove=2C IL. do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:29 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: End of yard work season Gee Dan I am impressed that anyone would remember any of my rants, and then to consider them inspirational. Soon and not long till Buildapalooza 2011 season begins again, December and I can wait, hot summer and the grass is all dead, actually got some work done last Saturday in building a mounting bracket for the tail wheel. Thanks for the positives Dan! John Do not Archive Less Yawanna In a message dated 9/20/2010 6:43:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, helspersew@aol.com writes: John Recine, I was just out cutting the grass and noticed that things are starting to slow down out there. Couldn't help remembering your rant from last year--- pretty inspirational to all Piet builders. Starting to get the itch? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:58 PM PST US From: Harvey Rule Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet Personally if you have enough people working on it and they all know what t hey are doing(not like me) then I think you should be able to crank out a P iet just about everyother day the same way old Henry Ford used to do eh!Jus t imagine that=2Cready to fly next day!NOW if you can just get those people to work for the cost of say one Piet each so that at the end of a certain period of time everybody would have one who is working on the assembly line .I think that was also Fords idea.The only problem you may have is "who get s the first Piet"? do not archive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 6 Weeks into Piet > From: mmcfi@juno.com > Date: Mon=2C 20 Sep 2010 15:30:17 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > I call =9CBS!!=9D Everyone knows it takes 2 years and 6 mos j ust to build 20 ribs > > Gary Boothe > > > I think that if you take into account his statement that he has wanted to do this for 30 years that his time line will work out just about right.... > > Mark > > Now according to this line of thinking i only have 18 years 4 months and 13 days to go... :D :) :( [Crying or Very sad] > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313118#313118 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:01 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker I'm not worried about getting paid for the stickers. They cost me almost not hing to make. For those that I end up having to ship them to, I wouldn't min d being reimbursed for the shipping costs. That's it. Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2010, at 3:20 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote: > I=99ll happily pay for one (or more) of those stickers. Name your p rice! > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Raleigh, NC > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:16 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > Mike Hardaway, come by sometime and I'll get you a sticker for Jack if you 're gonna try to meet up with him. I have a few already made up and I'll ma ke a few additional ones if anyone wants them. I have to fire up the machin e to make a sticker for one of my students anyways. > > I had made up the sticker as a design for a logo on the side of my plane a nd decided to make a small one to stick to the cover of my Piet's photo albu m. Chris Tracy had seen it at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering and he exp ressed an interest in one. So I made him one and a few extras (Gary Boothe c ame by to visit and I gave him one, but I still haven't sent Chris his yet). > > > > From: mike Hardaway > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:30:30 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > Jack, > Moffet's about 40 miles from SF. I pass by Vic Groah's place a couple of t imes a week. I can stop in and snag a couple of stickers if any are availab le (Mike, Vic?). > Tell me where you're staying while at Moffet and we can meet for dinner an d a sticker hand-off. > Mike Hardaway > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jack Phillips wr ote: > I=99ll be in San Francisco the last week of October. Unfortunately, I=99ll be in training all week with no ground transportation so I won =99t be able to leave Moffet Field. How do I get one of those sticker s? > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Raleigh, NC > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:49 AM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sticker > > I think I read somewhere that Jack Phillips was going to San Francisco for business, or personal. Anyone going to that part of California would have a bout a 4-4 =C2=BD hour drive down to Tulare, where Mike & Vic Groah are buil ding their Piet. Vic also restores old (really, really old) cars and has a v ery neat personal show room. > > If you treat the Groah=99s nicely and give them lots of compliments o n their Piet, they most likely will bestow upon you a really cool sticker fo r your back window. > > Thanks, Mike & Vic! > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (20 ribs down) > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > ======== > = > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > http://forums.matronics.com > _a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/con tr=== > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sticker From: "GliderMike" I want one too. Mike send me an email at anpmikeg@yahoo.com with your address, and I'll send money. If they can ever get my fingerprints done so they can do the required background check, I'll be moving myself and my tool box to Baton Rouge, to work on CRJ's. Quick trip to Atlanta and back tomorrow to get the fingerprints done again. -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313162#313162 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:45 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Appropriate Flying Footwear I dunno, Bill. I thought they were pretty snappy. Clif DO NOT ARCHIVE > I would have to say that "Crocs" should NEVER be considered to be > appropriate footwear. They ugly. > > BC > > DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:10 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question about wing painting What I did on mine was to use Clear Poly tone paint with some stain pigment added to it. YOu can get it from Stits Poly fiber direct, ask for Jon Goldenbaum to order. Also add some UV protection from them . Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "robisons" Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question about wing painting > > > I've noticed that some of the Piets have wings that allow light to shine > through while I was watching them fly while standing on the ground looking > up. How do you guys get light to show through your wing after painting > them? > > -------- > SR78 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312909#312909 > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:55 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greg Cardinal's Piet spotted From: "GliderMike" Speaking of so much grass, do any of you Okies know if the airport at Pawnee, OK is still grass, next to the golf course? I flew in there several years ago (mid 80's) to do a skydiving thing in celebration of some milestone on a water conversation lake near there. Don't remember what milestone we were celebrating, other than it was the XXXth number dam built by one of the government agencies. I don't even remember which agency was celebrating the milestone, but I remember the runway. It was almost as manicured as a golf green. I still get an ear to ear grin when I think about the runway. I've been on smooth paved runways that weren't as smooth as that grass was. It was WONDERFUL! About the only thing I don't miss about Oklahoma is when the wind is howling at 30 mph and above. But I've seen it when the first hour after sunrise is smooth as glass up to 1,000 ft, and the wind is almost too light. Two hours after the same sunrise, the wind is doing 25 mph or more. -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313172#313172 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.