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     1. 06:32 AM - Re: Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels (Richard Schreiber)
     2. 09:31 AM - Landing Gear Brackets (chase143(at)aol.com)
     3. 09:52 AM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (Billy McCaskill)
     4. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: Landing Gear Brackets (Gary Boothe)
     5. 10:17 AM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (chase143(at)aol.com)
     6. 10:36 AM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (helspersew@aol.com)
     7. 10:52 AM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (Jack)
     8. 12:50 PM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (Jack Phillips)
     9. 01:26 PM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (chase143(at)aol.com)
    10. 04:00 PM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (K5YAC)
    11. 05:26 PM - Wing covering question (Rick Holland)
    12. 05:43 PM - Baton Rouge (GliderMike)
    13. 05:45 PM - Re: Wing covering question (Gene Rambo)
    14. 06:08 PM - Re: Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels (shad bell)
    15. 06:20 PM - Re: Wing covering question (Ben Charvet)
    16. 07:08 PM - Re: Wing covering question (Rick Holland)
    17. 07:23 PM - Re: Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels (Richard Schreiber)
    18. 08:23 PM - Re: Baton Rouge (Billy McCaskill)
    19. 08:24 PM - Re: Baton Rouge (Billy McCaskill)
    20. 08:47 PM - Re: Re: Landing Gear Brackets (Michael Perez)
    21. 10:11 PM - cables (VanDy)
    22. 10:47 PM - Re: cables (BYD)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels | 
      
      Shad:
      
      I'll be at Lee Bottom Friday through Sunday morning. I'll be leaving NW Indiana
      after lunch on Friday, flying down in my red and white Tripacer.
      
      Rick Schreiber
      Valparaiso, IN
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: shad bell 
      Sent: 9/22/2010 5:12:40 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels
      
      
      Looks like friday is going to be a fairly windy day.  Forcast is saying 15-20mph
      winds out of the SW, almost a direct headwind.  That should add about 2 hrs
      to my trip down to Lee Bottoms fly-in, counting an extra fuel stop or two.  Mike
      C., are you still planning on flying down on friday?  Saturday looks a little
      better, unfortunatly I have to head home by 2pm or so to get back for work
      on sunday.  
      
      Hope to see some of you down there,
      Shad
      
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| Subject:  | Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      A picture of my LG lower brackets, I think they came out pretty good. I decided
      to rivet them after seeing Genes good work up close and personal. They are tremendously
      strong and riveted easily. Thanks again Gene!
      
      --------
      Steve
      www.mypiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313494#313494
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Very nice work!  What are the advantages of using rivets over nuts and bolts?
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313496#313496
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      I used nuts and bolts...the rivets are much cleaner looking!
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
      McCaskill
      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:50 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear Brackets
      
      
      Very nice work!  What are the advantages of using rivets over nuts and
      bolts?
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313496#313496
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Just my $.02: I think they looked more traditional, as called out in the plans,
      very strong, and they have a smaller profile with smoother edges to prevent cutting
      into the bungees. I had the equipment in the shop, just add $5 in rivets.
      And lastly, they are fun to make, I love to wake the neighbors at midnight
      with the sound of rivetting!
      Steve
      
      --------
      Steve
      www.mypiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313510#313510
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Steve,
      
      Those things are beautiful!!! Wow a real work of art. Mine are not that go
      od. Keep up this type of work and you will be amoung the "cream" at Brodhe
      ad!!
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL. 
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: chase143(at)aol.com <chase143@aol.com>
      Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 11:29 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear Brackets
      
      
      com>
      A picture of my LG lower brackets, I think they came out pretty good. I de
      cided 
      o rivet them after seeing Gene=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s good work up close
       and personal. They are 
      remendously strong and riveted easily. Thanks again Gene!
      --------
      teve
      ww.mypiet.com
      
      
      ead this topic online here:
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| Subject:  | Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Looks great Steve!  I have to comment publicly on your work and website, both are fantastic!  Pieters check it out www.mypiet.com a fantastic resource!
      Jack
      www.textors.com 
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143(at)aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:29 AM
      Subject:  Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear Brackets
      
      
      A picture of my LG lower brackets, I think they came out pretty good. I decided
      to rivet them after seeing Genes good work up close and personal. They are tremendously
      strong and riveted easily. Thanks again Gene!
      
      --------
      Steve
      www.mypiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313494#313494
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com//files/brackets_riveted_159.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Looking good, Steve.  So you've seen Gene's gorgeous project recently, huh?
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Raleigh, NC
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      chase143(at)aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:29 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear Brackets
      
      
      A picture of my LG lower brackets, I think they came out pretty good. I 
      decided to rivet them after seeing Gene?Ts good work up close and personal. 
      They are tremendously strong and riveted easily. Thanks again Gene!
      
      --------
      Steve
      www.mypiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313494#313494
      
      
      Attachments:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Jack T. you are too kind, just following your website lead!
      
      Jack P. ~ Yes, I visited Gene before Brodhead and his is beautiful. My Piet pales
      in comparison. I liked his rivet work so much I shamelessly copied it (best
      form of flattery ey!?). His must be ready to cover by now. Gene? Pictures?
      
      --------
      Steve
      www.mypiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313529#313529
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Steve, that is beautiful work.  I would copy you copying Gene if I were doing that
      type of gear.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313534#313534
      
      
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| Subject:  | Wing covering question | 
      
      When you guys covered your wings did you glue the top fabric to the entire
      leading edge ply or just a couple inches on the front of the leading edge?
      
      thanks
      
      rick
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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      Is the person who recently acquired their Piet plans and lives in the Baton Rouge
      area on this list yet?  If everything goes as planned I will be working for
      Atlantic Southeast at their Baton Rouge maintenance facility sometime soon, probably
      late October, or early November.  I bought plans in April or May, but
      haven't started anything yet.
      
      --------
      HOMEBUILDER
      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313538#313538
      
      
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| Subject:  | Wing covering question | 
      
      
      glue to only a couple of inches of leading edge.  Dope to remainder of plyw
      ood.  Definitely do not glue to entire leading edge.
      
      Gene
      do not archive
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing covering question
      From: at7000ft@gmail.com
      
      When you guys covered your wings did you glue the top fabric to the entire 
      leading edge ply or just a couple inches on the front of the leading edge?
      
      thanks
      
      rick
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock=2C Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers=2C that smell bad" 
      
      
       		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels | 
      
      Rich, I don't know why, but most of my post on the list keep ending up in m
      y spam, not sure if they are getting viruses attatched at my end or what.
      - Mike Cuy was planning on flying down last I heard, but I am not sure.
      - I had my other 2 wingman bail on me so I will be going it alone.- Due
       to the forecast, I am gonna plan on leaving at 1st light, try to get there
       before the winds get really bad.
      -
      Shad=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing covering question | 
      
      I just glued the leading edge.  I did put antichafe tape on the rear of the
      plywood.  I used latex rather than dope, and Stewart system Ecobond glue.
      
      Ben Charvet
      
      On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
      
      >  glue to only a couple of inches of leading edge.  Dope to remainder of
      > plywood.  Definitely do not glue to entire leading edge.
      >
      > Gene
      > do not archive
      >
      > ------------------------------
      > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:16:37 -0600
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing covering question
      > From: at7000ft@gmail.com
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >
      >
      > When you guys covered your wings did you glue the top fabric to the entire
      > leading edge ply or just a couple inches on the front of the leading edge?
      >
      > thanks
      >
      > rick
      >
      > --
      > Rick Holland
      > Castle Rock, Colorado
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing covering question | 
      
      Thanks Ben, am using Stewards and Latex also.
      
      
      On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > I just glued the leading edge.  I did put antichafe tape on the rear of the
      > plywood.  I used latex rather than dope, and Stewart system Ecobond glue.
      >
      > Ben Charvet
      >
      >
      > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
      >
      >>  glue to only a couple of inches of leading edge.  Dope to remainder of
      >> plywood.  Definitely do not glue to entire leading edge.
      >>
      >> Gene
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >> ------------------------------
      >> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:16:37 -0600
      >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing covering question
      >> From: at7000ft@gmail.com
      >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>
      >>
      >> When you guys covered your wings did you glue the top fabric to the entire
      >> leading edge ply or just a couple inches on the front of the leading edge?
      >>
      >> thanks
      >>
      >> rick
      >>
      >> --
      >> Rick Holland
      >> Castle Rock, Colorado
      >>
      >> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      >>
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      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels | 
      
      Shad,
      Most of the guys I knew that were going have bailed for various reasons. Last I
      heard I still have one friend who is flying up from Tennessee in his Grumman
      Widgeon and another coming in from Michigan in his Pacer.
      
      Rick
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: shad bell 
      Sent: 9/23/2010 8:10:18 PM 
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Weather for Wood Fabric And Tailwheels
      
      
      Rich, I don't know why, but most of my post on the list keep ending up in my spam,
      not sure if they are getting viruses attatched at my end or what.  Mike Cuy
      was planning on flying down last I heard, but I am not sure.  I had my other
      2 wingman bail on me so I will be going it alone.  Due to the forecast, I am
      gonna plan on leaving at 1st light, try to get there before the winds get really
      bad.
      
      Shad
      
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      Hi Mike,
      
      That's probably me that you are referring to, although I have had my plans since
      1995.  My residence is about 4 mi north of BTR, although I travel back and forth
      between Baton Rouge and Urbana, IL quite frequently.  My wife and I have
      a house in Urbana, at least until she graduates nursing school in December and
      we get the house there sold.  My Piet project is in Urbana for now, although
      I only have my tail section built.  I started building it just a year or so ago.
      
      Let me know once you are moved down and settled in and we'll get together and talk
      airplane stuff.
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313550#313550
      
      
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      Hi Mike,
      
      That's probably me that you are referring to, although I have had my plans since
      1995.  My residence is about 4 mi north of BTR, although I travel back and forth
      between Baton Rouge and Urbana, IL quite frequently.  My wife and I have
      a house in Urbana, at least until she graduates nursing school in December and
      we get the house there sold.  My Piet project is in Urbana for now, although
      I only have my tail section built.  I started building it just a year or so ago.
      
      Let me know once you are moved down and settled in and we'll get together and talk
      airplane stuff.
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313549#313549
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      As I have never done any riveting...what tools are required? Can this type of riveting
      be done by hand, or are machines needed? (of some sort) Are the rivets
      steel? I think your brackets look great and with the comment about the bungees
      being a little better protected, I am very interested.
      
      Thanks.
      
      Michael Perez
      Karetaker Aero
      www.karetakeraero.com 
      
      
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      So i did a couple of searches on here and found what looked like people are using
      both 3/32 and 1/8 stainless steel cables, so my question in what is the common
      that most are using?  
      Thanks in advance@@
      
      --------
      www.vansavition.com  follow my Piet rebuild there!
      
      almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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      If I recall correctly, the prints show all cables as 3/32 with the exception of
      the cables connecting the stick and the elevator bellcrank which are 1/8.  I
      don't remember what the "Jenny style gear" prints call out.  Some decide to utilize
      larger in some areas.  If I missed a spot, I'm sure someone will point it
      out  [Wink]
      
      
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