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     1. 02:32 AM - Re: Re: cables (Jack)
     2. 04:40 AM - Re: Re: cables (Greg Cardinal)
     3. 05:19 AM - Re: Landing Gear Brackets (skellytown flyer)
     4. 05:21 AM - Re: cables (Gene Rambo)
     5. 07:29 AM - Re: cables (TriScout)
     6. 09:38 AM - Re: onr more thing.... cables (Billy McCaskill)
     7. 11:17 AM - Fuel cap vent (Jack)
     8. 12:25 PM - Re: Fuel cap vent (gboothe5@comcast.net)
     9. 01:02 PM - Re: Re: cables (Doug Dever)
    10. 01:06 PM - Re: cables (Dan Yocum)
    11. 01:15 PM - Re: Fuel cap vent (Dale Johnson)
    12. 03:14 PM - 0-235 info (carson)
    13. 03:26 PM - Re: cables (Gene Rambo)
    14. 04:11 PM - Re: Fuel cap vent (helspersew@aol.com)
    15. 05:10 PM - Re: Fuel cap vent (Rick Holland)
    16. 06:15 PM - Fuselage question (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
    17. 06:21 PM - Re: 0-235 info (Jerry Dotson)
    18. 06:42 PM - Re: Fuselage question (Chris)
    19. 07:34 PM - Re: Re: 0-235 info (Clif Dawson)
    20. 07:56 PM - Corvair Engine (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
    21. 08:02 PM - Re: cables (Clif Dawson)
    22. 08:10 PM - Westcoastpiet Website (Chris)
    23. 08:20 PM - Re: Fuselage question (K5YAC)
    24. 08:36 PM - Re: Fuselage question (K5YAC)
    25. 08:47 PM - Re: Fuselage question (Ben Charvet)
    26. 09:02 PM - Re: 0-235 info (carson)
    27. 11:00 PM - Re: Re: 0-235 info (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 
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      Van,
      Tried your site and it's a bad link.  Have you got it going yet?
      Jack
      DSM
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of VanDy
      Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:35 AM
      Subject:  Pietenpol-List: Re: cables
      
      
      thanks for all the great feedback, as always :) i think im going to go with
      stainless though, the extra cost seems to be worth it in this case, although
      im going to do some weight research and what not as well. 
      
      One of the reasons im steering away from galvanized is that over the winter
      i found the Pietenpol with a broken tailwheel steering cable (galvanized)
      and it really made me think, ok so what do the ones in the wing look
      like....  they didnt look bad, but enough to make me replace them.  A quick
      history about the plane.  It has sat in an open T-hangar, the kind where
      there is another plane 180 facing 180 degrees on either side.  for the last
      8 years. Although i'll be storing it in a closed hangar, it makes me think!
      
      Now im about to go out and take a rough measurement of just how much I need
      and add 25%, although will probly end up ordering what i can afford when i
      can!
      
      Thanks again!!
      AN hardware (short of turn buckles) are in the mail.
      Corvair is ready to come off.
      Carb is waiting to be rebuilt.
      tail feathers ready for cover
      
      thanks for all the great feedback and advice!!
      
      --------
      www.vansavition.com  follow my Piet rebuild there!
      
      almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313679#313679
      
      
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      Try this link...
      
      http://www.vansaviation.com/
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "VanDy" <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
      Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:34 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: cables
      
      
      > <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
      >
      > thanks for all the great feedback, as always :) i think im going to go 
      > with stainless though, the extra cost seems to be worth it in this case, 
      > although im going to do some weight research and what not as well.
      >
      > One of the reasons im steering away from galvanized is that over the 
      > winter i found the Pietenpol with a broken tailwheel steering cable 
      > (galvanized) and it really made me think, ok so what do the ones in the 
      > wing look like....  they didnt look bad, but enough to make me replace 
      > them.  A quick history about the plane.  It has sat in an open T-hangar, 
      > the kind where there is another plane 180 facing 180 degrees on either 
      > side.  for the last 8 years. Although i'll be storing it in a closed 
      > hangar, it makes me think!
      >
      > Now im about to go out and take a rough measurement of just how much I 
      > need and add 25%, although will probly end up ordering what i can afford 
      > when i can!
      >
      > Thanks again!!
      > AN hardware (short of turn buckles) are in the mail.
      > Corvair is ready to come off.
      > Carb is waiting to be rebuilt.
      > tail feathers ready for cover
      >
      > thanks for all the great feedback and advice!!
      >
      > --------
      > www.vansavition.com  follow my Piet rebuild there!
      >
      > almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313679#313679
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Gear Brackets | 
      
      
      Well I haven't worked with Iron rivets in a long time but as a kid I set many of
      them with a Ball Peen hammer.of course they were going through steel sickle
      bars holding the cutters on but i seems to me like as long as you have an anvil
      to set the head against the method  should work about the same.it didn't take
      long to do one,the only think I can think of that might be a problem is what
      keeps the rivet from trying to swell inside the wood and split it? I never tried
      to rivet something like that but I would think if you don't have the equipment
      described it would be easy to make up a sample piece and just give the hammer
      method a try. it is pretty easy with practice to work around the end of the
      rivet with the round head and make a good shop head. Raymond
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313688#313688
      
      
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      what does going around a pulley have to do with galvanized vs stainless???
      
      Gene
      do not archive
      
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cables
      From: at7000ft@gmail.com
      
      
      Should use galvanized cable on any control cable that has to flex around a 
      pully. Am using stainless on the cabane (3/32") and wing strut cross brace 
      cables (1/8").
      
      rick 
      
      
      On Thu=2C Sep 23=2C 2010 at 10:55 PM=2C VanDy <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com
      > wrote:
      
      >
      
      So i did a couple of searches on here and found what looked like people are
       using both 3/32 and 1/8 stainless steel cables=2C so my question in what i
      s the common that most are using?
      Thanks in advance@@
      
      --------
      www.vansavition.com  follow my Piet rebuild there!
      
      almost dissasembled=2C getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313554#313554
      
      
      st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      http://forums.matronics.com
      le=2C List Admin.
      ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock=2C Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers=2C that smell bad" 
      
      
       		 	   		  
      
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      That reminds me. It finally dawned on me that the GN-1 that I bought is the only
      one I've ever seen w/out the cross bracing cables that crisscross between the
      wing struts. The fella that I bought it from told me to keep in mind that if
      a wing drops, or when you level it out after a bank, that it "takes all she got"
      to get that wing up level again. He put in some quick gap seals on the airlerons
      using dope/fabric, and said that it helps a little, but he said to just
      be aware of it when the time comes to fly it. The airframe does have about 480hrs
      on it, so it IS a proven airframe, but I am wondering if this lack of cross
      bracing may be contributing to the wing possibly warping slightly with aileron
      use, etc..
      
      also, before the last person bought it and rebuilt it, it was in a mishap back
      in '02. This, in my mind confirms my theory about the lack of cross bracing. Here's
      an excerpt of the accident back then:
      
      
      [b]He began the takeoff roll and initiated a
      normal climb until about 20 feet above ground level (agl) when the airplane suddenly
      and violently
      banked to the left. He applied full right rudder and also right aileron input but
      was not able to
      recover before the left wing impacted the ground. He then reduced power and the
      airplane then
      nosed over and came to rest on a closed runway. Postcrash, he checked the flight
      controls and
      stated, "they moved correctly and freely." He also stated that there was no evidence
      of pre-impact
      structural failure or malfunction.
      
      Any thoughts on this?
      
      Larry
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313699#313699
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_132.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: onr more thing.... cables | 
      
      
      Why did you remove the cardboard leading edge material?  Was it deteriortated?
      If it were plywood, it would probably still be in good shape.
      
      Also, I think that the plywood will add more strength to the wing and also probably
      be a few pounds lighter.
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313703#313703
      
      
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      All,
      I plan to install a ram vent in my fuel cap, which is galvanized.  Looking
      for the best way to secure the line.  Braze solder?  Will I need to grind
      the galvanized coating off?  Any help would be great!
      Go Hawks!
      Jack
      DSM
      
      Jack Textor
      29 SW 58th Drive
      Des Moines, IA 50312
      www.textors.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuel cap vent | 
      
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      aW5zaWRlIG9mIHRoZSBjYXAuDQoNCkdhcnkgQm9vdGhlDQpTZW50IG9uIHRoZSBTcHJpbnSuIE5v
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      LS0NCkZyb206ICJKYWNrIiA8amFja0B0ZXh0b3JzLmNvbT4NClNlbmRlcjogb3duZXItcGlldGVu
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      Someone else pipe up here if Im wrong=2C but I have no idea what would keep
       the wing from twisting around the vertical axis relative to the fuselage. 
       With the configuration of a Piet or a GN-1 and parallel lift struts it wou
      ld appear to me that you would have to have the cross bracing.  Other desig
      ns get around this of course by the "V" configuration of the lift struts.
      
      Doug Dever
      In beautiful Stow Ohio
      
      
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: cables
      > From: apfelcyber@yahoo.com
      > Date: Sat=2C 25 Sep 2010 07:27:28 -0700
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > That reminds me. It finally dawned on me that the GN-1 that I bought is t
      he only one I've ever seen w/out the cross bracing cables that crisscross b
      etween the wing struts. The fella that I bought it from told me to keep in 
      mind that if a wing drops=2C or when you level it out after a bank=2C that 
      it "takes all she got" to get that wing up level again. He put in some quic
      k gap seals on the airlerons using dope/fabric=2C and said that it helps a 
      little=2C but he said to just be aware of it when the time comes to fly it.
       The airframe does have about 480hrs on it=2C so it IS a proven airframe=2C
       but I am wondering if this lack of cross bracing may be contributing to th
      e wing possibly warping slightly with aileron use=2C etc..
      > 
      > also=2C before the last person bought it and rebuilt it=2C it was in a mi
      shap back in '02. This=2C in my mind confirms my theory about the lack of c
      ross bracing. Here's an excerpt of the accident back then:
      > 
      > 
      > [b]He began the takeoff roll and initiated a
      > normal climb until about 20 feet above ground level (agl) when the airpla
      ne suddenly and violently
      > banked to the left. He applied full right rudder and also right aileron i
      nput but was not able to
      > recover before the left wing impacted the ground. He then reduced power a
      nd the airplane then
      > nosed over and came to rest on a closed runway. Postcrash=2C he checked t
      he flight controls and
      > stated=2C "they moved correctly and freely." He also stated that there wa
      s no evidence of pre-impact
      > structural failure or malfunction.
      > 
      > Any thoughts on this?
      > 
      > Larry
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313699#313699
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_132.jpg
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      > 
      > 
      > 
       		 	   		  
      
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      Doesn't the zinc coating on the galvanized "lubricate" the cable?
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      yocum137@gmail.com
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      On Sep 25, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
      
      > what does going around a pulley have to do with galvanized vs stainless???
      
      >  
      > Gene
      > do not archive
      >  
      > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:17:36 -0600
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cables
      > From: at7000ft@gmail.com
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > Should use galvanized cable on any control cable that has to flex around a
       pully. Am using stainless on the cabane (3/32") and wing strut cross brace c
      ables (1/8").
      > 
      > rick 
      > 
      > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:55 PM, VanDy <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> wro
      te:
      m>
      > 
      > So i did a couple of searches on here and found what looked like people ar
      e using both 3/32 and 1/8 stainless steel cables, so my question in what is t
      he common that most are using?
      > Thanks in advance@@
      > 
      > --------
      > www.vansavition.com  follow my Piet rebuild there!
      > 
      > almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313554#313554
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -- 
      > Rick Holland
      > Castle Rock, Colorado
      > 
      > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" 
      > 
      > 
      > st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > ttp://forums.matronics.com
      > =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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      Jack
      
      You can soft solder galvanized coating. If you grind the galvanized coating of
      you will
      have to brass braze it. I soft soldered a copper tube to the cap.
      
      Dale
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jack 
      Sent: 9/25/2010 1:45:32 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel cap vent
      
      
      All,
      I plan to install a ram vent in my fuel cap, which is galvanized.  Looking for
      the best way to secure the line.  Braze solder?  Will I need to grind the galvanized
      coating off?  Any help would be great!
      Go Hawks!
      Jack
      DSM
      Jack Textor
      29 SW 58th Drive
      Des Moines, IA 50312
      www.textors.com
      
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      Hi guys 
      Hoping someone can help 
      I have an L2A Lycoming 235 and am not sure if it is a type 1 or 2 dynafocal ring
      I have searched high and low and think it should be a type 1 but am not sure.
      Does anyone have the answer?
      Carson
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313725#313725
      
      
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      no=2C the zinc is for corrosion protection.  Aircraft cables are supposedly
       lubricated internally=2C which might be necessary for going around pulleys
      .  For stays=2C cables that only hold something in position=2C but don't go
       around pulleys=2C like the tail brace wires and even the rear elevator wir
      es=2C I don't see why lubricated=2C i.e. "aircraft" cable would be required
      .  Non "aircraft" cable which has the exact same breaking strength as aircr
      aft cable=2C should be fine for tail brace wires=2C cabane wires=2C wing dr
      ag/anti-drag wires=2C strut brace wires=2C etc.
      
      Gene
      
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cables
      From: yocum137@gmail.com
      
      
      Doesn't the zinc coating on the galvanized "lubricate" the cable?
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      yocum137@gmail.com
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      On Sep 25=2C 2010=2C at 7:14 AM=2C Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
      
      
      what does going around a pulley have to do with galvanized vs stainless???
      
      Gene
      do not archive
      
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cables
      From: at7000ft@gmail.com
      
      
      Should use galvanized cable on any control cable that has to flex around a 
      pully. Am using stainless on the cabane (3/32") and wing strut cross brace 
      cables (1/8").
      
      rick 
      
      
      On Thu=2C Sep 23=2C 2010 at 10:55 PM=2C VanDy <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com
      > wrote:
      
      >
      
      So i did a couple of searches on here and found what looked like people are
       using both 3/32 and 1/8 stainless steel cables=2C so my question in what i
      s the common that most are using?
      Thanks in advance@@
      
      --------
      www.vansavition.com  follow my Piet rebuild there!
      
      almost dissasembled=2C getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313554#313554
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com
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      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock=2C Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers=2C that smell bad" 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuel cap vent | 
      
      
      Hi Jack,
      
      The fuel cap I used is aluminum, from Wag Aero I think. I fabricated a cur
      ved aluminum ram-air tube to fit on the top of the cap. I actually epoxied
       it together. Works well.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
      Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 12:58 pm
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel cap vent
      
      
      All,
      I plan to install a ram vent in my fuel cap, which is galvanized.  Looking
       for the best way to secure the line.  Braze solder?  Will I need to grind
       the galvanized coating off?  Any help would be great!
      Go Hawks!
      Jack
      DSM
      Jack Textor
      29 SW 58th Drive
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      J.B. Weld works too.
      
      On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > Hi Jack,
      >
      > The fuel cap I used is aluminum, from Wag Aero I think. I fabricated a
      > curved aluminum ram-air tube to fit on the top of the cap. I actually
      > epoxied it together. Works well.
      >
      > Dan Helsper
      > Poplar Grove, IL.
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      >  All,
      > I plan to install a ram vent in my fuel cap, which is galvanized.  Looking
      > for the best way to secure the line.  Braze solder?  Will I need to grind
      > the galvanized coating off?  Any help would be great!
      > Go Hawks!
      > Jack
      > DSM
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| Subject:  | Fuselage question | 
      
      Members of the list:
      -
      While cutting and piecing together the fuselage, it is my understanding the
       struts and side braces are to have wedges inserted between them before you
       glue on the plywood gusset. Question: Do you apply these wedges between al
      l struts and braces on both the top and bottom of each side? Not sure where
       these wedge pieces belong and, if they should be included in all areas whe
      re the struts and bracing come in contact with the longerons.
      
      Any advice is much needed advice.....
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      Here is a link to Lycoming's website with an explanation at the very bottom. I
      copied just that portion of the page.
      http://www.lycoming.textron.com/engines/series/pdfs/320ci%20Engine%20Insert.pdf
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      wing, tailfeathers done
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313732#313732
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fuselage question | 
      
      There are no wedges on the plans.  The only place I added wedges are the
      cluster where the landing gear/wing strut fitting is bolted on and where the
      engine mount fittings bolt on. 
      
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, Ca
      Westcoastpiet.com
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
      CPO/FAAOP
      Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:12 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage question
      
      
      Members of the list:
      
      While cutting and piecing together the fuselage, it is my understanding the
      struts and side braces are to have wedges inserted between them before you
      glue on the plywood gusset. Question: Do you apply these wedges between all
      struts and braces on both the top and bottom of each side? Not sure where
      these wedge pieces belong and, if they should be included in all areas where
      the struts and bracing come in contact with the longerons.
      
      Any advice is much needed advice.....
      
      KMHeide
      
      
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      I think this one is what you want. It's O-235.
      
      http://www.lycoming.textron.com/engines/series/pdfs/235ci%20Insert.pdf
      
      Interesting to see that they've made your engine with
      dynafocal mounts. My O-290 has conical.
      
      Clif
      
      
      > Here is a link to Lycoming's website with an explanation at the very 
      > bottom. I copied just that portion of the page.
      > http://www.lycoming.textron.com/engines/series/pdfs/320ci%20Engine%20Insert.pdf
      >
      > --------
      > Jerry Dotson
      > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      > Baker, FL 32531
      >
      > Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      > wing, tailfeathers done
      > using Lycoming O-235
      
      
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      Fellow Pieters,
      -
      -
      I met up with an old time friend today for some Corvair talk. Vern is a ret
      ired GM Factory Corvair engineer and engine specialist for over 30 years! A
       walking Corvair guru!
      -
      Anyhow, here is what $125.00 bucks will get you! You should of heard it run
      ! He has a barn full of parts! 
      -
      KMHeide
      
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      It's not the lubrication that's the problem.
      We all know that a piece of wire will break if it's bent
      back and forth a number of times. Well, stainless will
      crystalize and break a lot sooner than non stainless. 
      As the cable moves back and forth over a pulley it is 
      doing the same thing a little bit at a time. The question 
      is, how long before that break will happen? The other
      question is, how long before your cables, in your
      location, where your plane will spend the rest of it's
      days, will rust and need replacement? To me, the
      former is of greater concern and my plane will live
      500 ft from the shoreline of the Salish Sea in the
      company of forty others, some of which have been
      there since the fifties. There's also a hundred or so
      aircraft at Boundary Bay that are within a quarter mile
      of the same salty waters. All cabled with galvanized
      and 85% of them have never seen the inside of a
      hanger.
      
      Ask around. I think for a lot of you, strange looks will
      be the order of the day with the question, " Why do
      you want to do that? It's not a seaplane is it?"
      
      Clif
      
        "Things which matter most must never be at the mercy of things which 
      matter least." 
        ~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
      
        Doesn't the zinc coating on the galvanized "lubricate" the cable?-- 
      Dan Yocum
        yocum137@gmail.com
        "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
          what does going around a pulley have to do with galvanized vs 
      stainless???
           Gene
      
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| Subject:  | Westcoastpiet Website | 
      
      
      I finally got the website mostly working again.  There are some links I need
      to redo but the majority of it is back.  I will have to fix it later because
      I need to get my ailerons finished before it starts to rain, and the wife's
      car needs to be back in the garage. 
      
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, Ca
      Westcoastpiet.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage question | 
      
      
      Actually, there are wedges mentioned in the plans.  The only place I have seen
      them noticed for the fuse sides are the three in the cockpit area.  I glued these
      in after the gussets were glued in place, but I suppose they could be added
      at any time.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313743#313743
      
      
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      After reading Chris' note again, I think we are talking about the same wedges.
      Maybe we are all talking of the same wedges?  Not sure.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage question | 
      
        The wedges are necessary at the stations where the landing gear bolts 
      on on the bottom of the fuselage.  I don't have my plans in front of me, 
      but I believe that is all that is called for.
      
      Ben
      On 9/25/2010 9:12 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP wrote:
      > Members of the list:
      > While cutting and piecing together the fuselage, it is my 
      > understanding the struts and side braces are to have wedges inserted 
      > between them before you glue on the plywood gusset. Question: Do you 
      > apply these wedges between all struts and braces on both the top and 
      > bottom of each side? Not sure where these wedge pieces belong and, if 
      > they should be included in all areas where the struts and bracing come 
      > in contact with the longerons.
      > Any advice is much needed advice.....
      > KMHeide
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      Thanks for the replies but it still doesn't help me to determine if it is a type
      1 or 2
      I have found this but am not sure if I am reading it correctly 
      If you look at L2A It reads similar to J2A then J2A is similar to J2B that has
      a type 1 ring. So I read it as the L2A has the type 1
      http://150cessna.tripod.com/e-223.pdf
      I can't get it to work as a link so hope it will work if you cut and paste
      What do you guys think
      Carson
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313748#313748
      
      
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      Why not ask Lycoming themselves? Give 'em the serial#.
      
      Clif
      
      > Thanks for the replies but it still doesn't help me to determine if it is 
      > a type 1 or 2
      > What do you guys think
      > Carson
      
      
 
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