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Mon 09/27/10


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:36 AM - Re: Re: Am I a Redneck? (Clif Dawson)
     2. 04:49 AM - More mag problems (helspersew@aol.com)
     3. 05:54 AM - Re: More mag problems (Harvey Rule)
     4. 06:01 AM - Re: More mag problems (Harvey Rule)
     5. 06:01 AM - Re: Am I a Redneck? (Jim Markle)
     6. 06:11 AM - reminiscing (Oscar Zuniga)
     7. 06:26 AM - Re: Corvair Engine (TOM STINEMETZE)
     8. 06:37 AM - Re: More mag problems (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     9. 06:37 AM - Saturday (amsafetyc@aol.com)
    10. 06:55 AM - Re: More mag problems (Pieti Lowell)
    11. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: the Brew boys get together was a happening thing (hvandervoo@aol.com)
    12. 08:12 AM - Re: Plans and books for sale (dgaldrich)
    13. 11:21 AM - Startin' My Ribs- Tucker (Tucker)
    14. 03:40 PM - Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker (Billy McCaskill)
    15. 05:25 PM - Re: More mag problems (shad bell)
    16. 07:29 PM - Re: Saturday (echobravo4)
    17. 07:36 PM - Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
    18. 08:28 PM - Re: Plans and books for sale (GliderMike)
    19. 08:35 PM - Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker (Ryan Mueller)
    20. 10:53 PM - Re: Re: Plans and books for sale (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:36:43 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Am I a Redneck?
    I have 2-70 airconditioning. Does that count? Clif do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Am I a Redneck? You know you are a redneck if you have a car air conditioner like this.


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    Time: 04:49:06 AM PST US
    Subject: More mag problems
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Well, yesterday I decided to fly over (19 mi.) to Skysoaring glider club field as they were having an open house picnic. Got about half way there and the engine started running rough. Turned for home, checked the mags (already had checked them earlier) and the engine went dead when I witche d to R, so I let it run on L. Still was running quite rough and I thought I was going to be joining the ranks of those crank snap'n corvairs in a bean field. Somehow made it back snorting and coughing. Landed safe and the engine quit. Had to get my tractor and tow it back to the hangar. Tur ned the engine through and I noticed that could not hear the left mag's im pulse at all. This means that either the impulse is broken, or the mag is not turning at all. Probably the latter since no sparks from that one. I was so discouraged that I closed the hangar door and came inside for the rest of the day. Not a good day. How can both mags fail on the same fligh t? Can you please tell me????? GRRRRR Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL.


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    Time: 05:54:57 AM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: More mag problems
    Ah yes=2CI have had this happen to me and when I talked to another pilot he told me it had happened to him as well.It does happen on occasion that bot h will go at the same time. I sent both of mine away to Savage in California and had them overhauled an d the guy told me that they were in real bad shape.Both of them.I guess bec ause most of the time we get them overhauled at the same time and they are both used at the same time it stands to reason that they should both go at close to the same time.You were very lucky to make it back with out having to land out in an emergency. Subject: Pietenpol-List: More mag problems From: helspersew@aol.com Well=2C yesterday I decided to fly over (19 mi.) to Skysoaring glider club field as they were having an open house picnic. Got about half way there an d the engine started running rough. Turned for home=2C checked the mags (al ready had checked them earlier) and the engine went dead when I witched to R=2C so I let it run on L. Still was running quite rough and I thought I wa s going to be joining the ranks of those crank snap'n corvairs in a bean fi eld. Somehow made it back snorting and coughing. Landed safe and the engine quit. Had to get my tractor and tow it back to the hangar. Turned the engi ne through and I noticed that could not hear the left mag's impulse at all. This means that either the impulse is broken=2C or the mag is not turning at all. Probably the latter since no sparks from that one. I was so discour aged that I closed the hangar door and came inside for the rest of the day. Not a good day. How can both mags fail on the same flight? Can you please tell me????? GRRRRR Dan Helsper Poplar Grove=2C IL.


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    Time: 06:01:41 AM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: More mag problems
    Another thing you should do is check all your plugs.I don't know about you but I use regular automotive Champion plugs and they are like light bulbs =2Cone minute they are fine the next they are junk.I wish i could get a cro ss for aviation plugs but there is no such thing for my engine. From: harvey.rule@bell.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: More mag problems Ah yes=2CI have had this happen to me and when I talked to another pilot he told me it had happened to him as well.It does happen on occasion that bot h will go at the same time. I sent both of mine away to Savage in California and had them overhauled an d the guy told me that they were in real bad shape.Both of them.I guess bec ause most of the time we get them overhauled at the same time and they are both used at the same time it stands to reason that they should both go at close to the same time.You were very lucky to make it back with out having to land out in an emergency. Subject: Pietenpol-List: More mag problems From: helspersew@aol.com Well=2C yesterday I decided to fly over (19 mi.) to Skysoaring glider club field as they were having an open house picnic. Got about half way there an d the engine started running rough. Turned for home=2C checked the mags (al ready had checked them earlier) and the engine went dead when I witched to R=2C so I let it run on L. Still was running quite rough and I thought I wa s going to be joining the ranks of those crank snap'n corvairs in a bean fi eld. Somehow made it back snorting and coughing. Landed safe and the engine quit. Had to get my tractor and tow it back to the hangar. Turned the engi ne through and I noticed that could not hear the left mag's impulse at all. This means that either the impulse is broken=2C or the mag is not turning at all. Probably the latter since no sparks from that one. I was so discour aged that I closed the hangar door and came inside for the rest of the day. Not a good day. How can both mags fail on the same flight? Can you please tell me????? GRRRRR Dan Helsper Poplar Grove=2C IL. st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:01:41 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Am I a Redneck?
    I was probably home, you didn't have time to stop and say hello??? -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> >Sent: Sep 26, 2010 7:50 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Am I a Redneck? > > >Gary, I don't think you qualify. Its not hanging from a tree over a pickup up on blocks with a coom dog sleeping under it. And I'll grampa isn't sitting in a rocker with a beer in his hand either. >Jim B. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:13:08 PM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I a Redneck? > > >List, > > > >They say that if you have an engine hanging from a tree, youre a redneck. How about if you have an engine hanging from a beam in your garage? > > > >The attached picture is just before I loaded my engine back in my truck for next weekends CC #18, in Livermore, CA. With any luck, Ill run that engine on a test stand, with William Wynnes supervision! > > > >Gary Boothe >Cool, Ca. >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >Tail done,Fuselageon gear >(20 ribs down) > >


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    Time: 06:11:04 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: reminiscing
    Andy Anderson signed me off as a PPSEL 29 years ago on Sept. 26, 1981 at David Wayne Hooks airport outside of Houston, Texas. I took my checkride in a Piper Warrior. My first solo was November 6, 1971- in a J-3 Cub. I never imagined that I would own my own airplane and get to fly it anytime I wanted. I took 41CC up on Saturday after servicing the wheels (installed new axle washers)- made a couple of decent landings, considering the fact that we were using Rwy 35 instead of 17, a north wind blowing (pretty rare for us). The sight picture on final is all different from what I'm used to. Please, do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:26:17 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: Corvair Engine
    Pieti: According to William Wynne the turbo version of the Corvair engine is not suitable for aircraft use due to the RPM range that it has to run to get the turbo working. That's in my 2004 version of the Corvair Conversion manual. However, I have seen some references on his website (www.FlyCorvai r.com) to a turbo conversion that he has done/is doing so I guess the issue is not totally out of the question. The bottom line would probably be that the turbo unit is not the one originally designed for the Corvair by the Chevy folks. Tom Stinemetze N328X >>> "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> 9/26/2010 3:41 PM >>> Has anyone seen or thought about the Turbo Corvair Engine, I had one that I used in a swamp buggy, It had low compression cylinders , could use standard fuel until I used the Turbo and had to use hi octane fuel to prevent knocking,She sure cranked out HP. Pieti Lowell


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    Time: 06:37:02 AM PST US
    From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: More mag problems
    Don't know Dan. Just happy you're home safe and ready to fight another day John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Mon, Sep 27, 2010 11:49:29 GMT+00:00 Subject: Pietenpol-List: More mag problems Well, yesterday I decided to fly over (19 mi.) to Skysoaring glider club field as they were having an open house picnic. Got about half way there and the engine started running rough. Turned for home, checked the mags (already had checked them earlier) and the engine went dead when I witched to R, so I let it run on L. Still was running quite rough and I thought I was going to be joining the ranks of those crank snap'n corvairs in a bean field. Somehow made it back snorting and coughing. Landed safe and the engine quit. Had to get my tractor and tow it back to the hangar. Turned the engine through and I noticed that could not hear the left mag's impulse at all. This means that either the impulse is broken, or the mag is not turning at all. Probably the latter since no sparks from that one. I was so discouraged that I closed the hangar door and came inside for the rest of the day. Not a good day. How can both mags fail on the same flight? Can you please tell me????? GRRRRR Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL.


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    Time: 06:37:16 AM PST US
    From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Subject: Saturday
    Went to the grimes fly in with my builder buddy/grandson had a great day. As we were getting ready to leave heard a voice at the next table over. Came around to see if it was who i thought but had a hard time with the face so i interrupted the conversation at its pause excused my self and asked. Sure enough it was Andy from the Barnstormers video. Found out he's a regular at grimes golden age and was hopping rides in the Waco. Apparently he's a frequent event attender there. I was hard to miss. If guy in a red poet shirt. Nice to have met him my builder limed the dancing girls in the video. That's my boy airplanes and women a good start ill teach him about beer later then he will know both the finer and best things life has to offfer We had a great time and neat meeting Andy maybe next time he'll bring Gene Rambo along too John A note to share but do not archive Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


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    Time: 06:55:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: More mag problems
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Dan: I switched from Champions to AC & Autolite many years ago and never had a problem , even with a single mag. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313865#313865


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    Time: 07:04:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: the Brew boys get together was a happening thing
    From: hvandervoo@aol.com
    What happened to the Tiramisu ? A few beers I was expecting to disappear but the cake got devoured. I had a good time guys, thanks for coming by. On the way back from Critter's lodge, I experienced flying through a small rain shower. It lasted all but 2 minutes but was a new experience for my Pietenpol. Total trip was 3.5 hours round trip, not bad for a Saturday flight. Hans NX15KV Waller, TX -----Original Message----- From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Sent: Sun, Sep 26, 2010 9:56 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Brew boys get together was a happening th ing mil> It was a pleasure to meet John for the 1st time and to get to spend some more ime with Hans and Karen. Thanks to all of them for a really nice evening. Also got to see Hans at the Critter's Lodge fly-in in Centerville, TX this eekend (a wonderful outing). Two Corvair Piets at a small fly-in in centr al X. Lots of fun. Photographic evidence of the Brew Boys festivities attached. Axel -------- evin Purtee X899KP ustin/Georgetown, TX ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313836#313836 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/hans_and_john_475.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/hans_kevin_and_john_209.jpg -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 08:12:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans and books for sale
    From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
    If the Perez and Cuy videos are still available, I'd like them. E-mail me off line at dgaldrich@embarqmail.com. Dave Aldrich Do not archive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313871#313871


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    Time: 11:21:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
    From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net>
    Well Captain and I made up the rib jig, steam box, bending jig, and cut the gussets so I'm finally ready to make some ribs. Here are pictures of our steam box and jigs. Today's my birthday, I'm finally a 13 year old teenager. Whoo Hoo! -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313889#313889 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0003_300.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0001_321.jpg


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    Time: 03:40:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    Happy Birthday Tucker! Thanks for the update on your Piet project, keep up the good work. Hopefully you will have it done in time to solo it on your 16th birthday! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313924#313924


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    Time: 05:25:12 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: More mag problems
    Dan, did the engine overheat?- If both mags quit turning, the drive gear (for the mags)might have come apart.- Check the whole thing over really g ood,- and when you get it fixed, fly it over your home airfield for 5-10 hrs to verify it is fixed.- Our- engine problems got us right when we w ere done with our 40 hr test phase (about 59 hrs to be exact).- Stick wit h it, You'll get it figured out.- Remember these are experimental aircraf t, it is a learning experiance, so try to enjoy the whole project (even the down times). - If I make brodhead next year, I am certain I will see your piet there, - Shad=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:29:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Saturday
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    Sorry we missed you John! Katrina and I camped out for the weekend and had great time. we try to get out there a few times a year,but, I've been out there alot lately climbing around their Piet! Actually one of the guys out there is pretty far along on a sky scout I even picked up a carb for my corvair! do not archive -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313947#313947


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    Time: 07:36:51 PM PST US
    From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au
    Subject: Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
    I see a few of the rib jigs are using a cam wheel to hold the top and bottom sticks to the rib out line. I did the same, however I installed all the cams on the inside of the rib so as to push the sticks out against the perimeter jig blocks. This way you are sure all the ribs will have the same outside contour line irrespective of variations in stick thickness. Does that make sense? Regards, JohnW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net> Sent: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010 2:19:21 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi Subject: Pietenpol-List: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker Well Captain and I made up the rib jig, steam box, bending jig, and cut the gussets so I'm finally ready to make some ribs. Here are pictures of our steam box and jigs. Today's my birthday, I'm finally a 13 year old teenager. Whoo Hoo! -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313889#313889 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0003_300.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0001_321.jpg


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    Time: 08:28:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans and books for sale
    From: "GliderMike" <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
    Brian and his brother bought everything except my Piet plans, and the Corvair maintenance/builders manual. I felt like a candy store owner with a store full of kids. I hated to part with the books and videos, but I am sure Brian and his brother will make good use of them. It feels like that little bit of financial help (along with selling a ski lift ticket voucher today that was left from last year) relieved enough stress, that I think I will keep the plans, and Corvair build manual. The only regrets I have in life, have to do with parting company with various aircraft I have owned over the years. It feels like my Piet plans, and Corvair build manual are an aircraft and its powerplant I own, that isn't quite totally materialized yet. Thanks everyone for your concern and prayers. -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313955#313955


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    Time: 08:35:49 PM PST US
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
    It does make sense. However, if you put the cams on the outside pushing in so as to have consistent location of the inside of the upper and lower capstrips you can then cut your diagonals and uprights en masse, since you know the distance between the capstrips on the inside is all the same. The minute difference in thickness of the various pieces of capstrip material will not make a difference once they are on the wing and covered. With all that being said, the best method to use is the one that gets you completed airworthy ribs the quickest! Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:34 PM, "johnwoods@westnet.com.au" <johnwoods@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > I see a few of the rib jigs are using a cam wheel to hold the top and bottom sticks to the rib out line. > I did the same, however I installed all the cams on the inside of the rib so as to push the sticks out against the perimeter jig blocks. > This way you are sure all the ribs will have the same outside contour line irrespective of variations in stick thickness. > Does that make sense? > > Regards, > JohnW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010 2:19:21 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker > > > Well Captain and I made up the rib jig, steam box, bending jig, and cut the gussets so I'm finally ready to make some ribs. Here are pictures of our steam box and jigs. > > Today's my birthday, I'm finally a 13 year old teenager. Whoo Hoo! > > -------- > Tucker > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313889#313889 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0003_300.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0001_321.jpg > >


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    Time: 10:53:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans and books for sale
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Good luck! ---------- MISANTHROPE Will DERIDE YOU for free Beautiful sunsets, long walks on the beach, brats on the grill, gas in the air, OnlyAsshatsGiveThemselvesNicknamesRyan, aka Ryan Mueller ;) On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:26 PM, GliderMike <glidermikeg@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Brian and his brother bought everything except my Piet plans, and the > Corvair maintenance/builders manual. I felt like a candy store owner with a > store full of kids. I hated to part with the books and videos, but I am > sure Brian and his brother will make good use of them. It feels like that > little bit of financial help (along with selling a ski lift ticket voucher > today that was left from last year) relieved enough stress, that I think I > will keep the plans, and Corvair build manual. The only regrets I have in > life, have to do with parting company with various aircraft I have owned > over the years. It feels like my Piet plans, and Corvair build manual are > an aircraft and its powerplant I own, that isn't quite totally materialized > yet. Thanks everyone for your concern and prayers.ll > > -------- > HOMEBUILDER > Will WORK for Spruce > Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, > GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313955#313955 > >




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