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1. 03:36 AM - Encoder Installation (Jack)
2. 04:26 AM - Corvair for building (Dave Sornborger)
3. 04:41 AM - Re: More mag problems (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 04:57 AM - Re: Encoder Installation (Jack Phillips)
5. 05:23 AM - Re: More mag problems (bender)
6. 05:24 AM - Shad flying back home... (Jim Markle)
7. 05:39 AM - Re: Shad flying back home... (bender)
8. 05:44 AM - Re: Encoder Installation (jeff wilson)
9. 06:07 AM - Re: Encoder Installation (Jack Phillips)
10. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: More mag problems (Gene Rambo)
11. 07:07 AM - Re: Re: cables (Skip Gadd)
12. 07:45 AM - Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker (Jack Phillips)
13. 07:55 AM - Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker (Kenneth Howe)
14. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: cables (Kip and Beth Gardner)
15. 08:32 AM - Re: cables (TriScout)
16. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: cables (Skip Gadd)
17. 09:40 AM - Re: Corvair Engine (Bill Church)
18. 12:43 PM - Re: Shad flying back home... (Jim Boyer)
19. 01:13 PM - Re: Shad flying back home... (Jim Markle)
20. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: Corvair Engine (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
21. 03:44 PM - Re: Shad flying back home... (Jim Boyer)
22. 05:08 PM - Re: Encoder Installation (jeff wilson)
23. 05:58 PM - Re: cables (Dangerous Dave)
24. 08:03 PM - Re: cables (coxwelljon)
25. 08:13 PM - Re: cables (coxwelljon)
26. 09:16 PM - turnbuckles & blasting cabinet. (coxwelljon)
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Subject: | Encoder Installation |
Was wondering where others located their encoders. Close to transponder, or
static source? My Trans-Cal manual says it should be as close as possible
to the altimeter. Since I'm mounting my transponder in the center section,
I would rather run the static line down through the struts rather than the
large wire bundle. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Corvair for building |
Howdy,I have a Corvair engine stripped for building.Went with an O-235
Correct # block,heads,crank,all parts required to keep according to WW
manual,also new unused and unregistered WW conversion manual.Email me
if interested.Can send pictures.69 block and cyls-68 heads all parts
look to be in good shape.Dave
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Subject: | Re: More mag problems |
Hi Shad,
No, the engine did not overheat. The crank drive mag seems to be turning
fine, but the one driven from the cam gear is not. If the cam gear fell
apart then the camshaft would stop turning. I don't think it was that or
the engine would have not run at all. Still haven't looked at it. I won't
have time to look at it for about 2 weeks. I'll report in when I find out
. Thanks for the encouragement.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 27, 2010 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: More mag problems
Dan, did the engine overheat? If both mags quit turning, the drive gear
(for the mags)might have come apart. Check the whole thing over really
good, and when you get it fixed, fly it over your home airfield for 5-10
hrs to verify it is fixed. Our engine problems got us right when we wer
e done with our 40 hr test phase (about 59 hrs to be exact). Stick with
it, You'll get it figured out. Remember these are experimental aircraft,
it is a learning experiance, so try to enjoy the whole project (even the
down times).
If I make brodhead next year, I am certain I will see your piet there,
Shad
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Subject: | Encoder Installation |
I put mine right next to the transponder, in the centersection
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Encoder Installation
Was wondering where others located their encoders. Close to transponder, or
static source? My Trans-Cal manual says it should be as close as possible
to the altimeter. Since I'm mounting my transponder in the center section,
I would rather run the static line down through the struts rather than the
large wire bundle. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: More mag problems |
So the only "PMA" "aircraft" parts are the ones giving you problems ??
Sorry Dan...... were the mags new? I would have thought one mag would have done
OK
Jeff
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Subject: | Shad flying back home... |
Neat picture of a REAL airplane departing from Lee Bottom...
http://web.me.com/shelbysmith/EAA_162/Lee_Bottom_2010.html#81
There are some other good pictures on that website of the Bell's Air Camper...
Very nice....I am really jealous!
jm
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Subject: | Re: Shad flying back home... |
Hey Shad.. it looked great
I was the long hair that was all over your plane when you landed... wanted to say
hello but you were surrounded pretty quick... i noticed you on the upwind leg..
recognized the piet and watched for you to park.
I was in my 120..from lee bottom i took it to danville KY to its new home.
I start building in the next few weeks.
If you've never been to Lee Bottom you are missing a great fly in
jeff
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Subject: | Encoder Installation |
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Subject: | Encoder Installation |
Just because you fly a Pietenpol doesn't mean you have to avoid flying in to
Class C or Class B airspace. I've had mine in both, several times.
Invariably draws questions from the tower - "Say, just what kind of airplane
IS that?"
I would not have been able to put mine on display at the Smithsonian's
Udvar-Hazy museum's Be a Pilot Family Day, if I did not have a transponder.
Flying through the Washington ADIZ and landing at Dulles International was a
thrill!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Encoder Installation
Encoder? Transponder? Large wire bundle? What are those?
Oh, I must be on the wrong forum. I'm building a Pietenpol.
Jeff Wilson
N899WT
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From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Encoder Installation
I put mine right next to the transponder, in the centersection
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Encoder Installation
Was wondering where others located their encoders. Close to transponder, or
static source? My Trans-Cal manual says it should be as close as possible
to the altimeter. Since I'm mounting my transponder in the center section,
I would rather run the static line down through the struts rather than the
large wire bundle. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: More mag problems |
two shouldn't go at the same time. Start looking at things in common=2C li
ke the mag switch. Also=2C is it possible you have an engine problem like
a blown head gasaket that might have fouled plugs?
Gene
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More mag problems
> From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
> Date: Tue=2C 28 Sep 2010 05:20:50 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Sorry Dan...... were the mags new? I would have thought one mag would hav
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Larry,
I think Grega left the cross bracing cables in place is because his
diagonal brace are small and light tube, 1/2"X.032 I think. Also he just
has a small strap wrapped around the top of the cabane (not welded) to
attach the diagonal brace to. Most Piet guys take the cross bracing cables
out after they get the wing location set. Hopefully they use heaver tube
for the diagonal brace and weld the fitting to the top of the cabane. Your
diagonal braces look a little bigger than the braces on my GN-1. If you
have any second thoughts I would put cross braces in.
Skip
>
> That reminds me. It finally dawned on me that the GN-1 that I bought is
the only one I've ever seen w/out the cross bracing cables that crisscross
between the wing struts.
> Larry
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Subject: | Startin' My Ribs- Tucker |
Actually, it doesn't matter much. Once all the ribs are built, you will
need to stack them on a couple of short pieces of spar material and then
sand them all together with a long sanding block to make sure they are all
absolutely uniform.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
johnwoods@westnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
I see a few of the rib jigs are using a cam wheel to hold the top and bottom
sticks to the rib out line.
I did the same, however I installed all the cams on the inside of the rib so
as to push the sticks out against the perimeter jig blocks.
This way you are sure all the ribs will have the same outside contour line
irrespective of variations in stick thickness.
Does that make sense?
Regards,
JohnW
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From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010 2:19:21 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing
/ Hong Kong / Urumqi
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
Well Captain and I made up the rib jig, steam box, bending jig, and cut the
gussets so I'm finally ready to make some ribs. Here are pictures of our
steam box and jigs.
Today's my birthday, I'm finally a 13 year old teenager. Whoo Hoo!
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Tucker
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Subject: | Re: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker |
My jig is more like Tucker's. I put the fixed, rectangular blocks on the outside
of the curvature and the cams on the inside. So on the bottom reflexed area,
the cams are on the outside of the rib. I think it's like Ryan said, probably
won't make a difference in the long run.
Ken
On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:34 PM, johnwoods@westnet.com.au wrote:
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> I see a few of the rib jigs are using a cam wheel to hold the top and bottom
sticks to the rib out line.
> I did the same, however I installed all the cams on the inside of the rib so
as to push the sticks out against the perimeter jig blocks.
> This way you are sure all the ribs will have the same outside contour line irrespective
of variations in stick thickness.
> Does that make sense?
>
> Regards,
> JohnW
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> From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010 2:19:21 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing /
Hong Kong / Urumqi
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Startin' My Ribs- Tucker
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> Well Captain and I made up the rib jig, steam box, bending jig, and cut the gussets
so I'm finally ready to make some ribs. Here are pictures of our steam
box and jigs.
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Skip,
I think what everyone is talking about here are the wires that brace
the lift struts, not the ones between the right side cabanes that can
be replaced by the forward diagonal brace. It seems that this plane
has been flying without the lift strut wires - I would not think that
that is a reasonable proposition, to put it mildly. Also makes me
wonder if this plane has jury struts?
Kip Gardner
On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Skip Gadd wrote:
> <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
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> Larry,
> I think Grega left the cross bracing cables in place is because his
> diagonal brace are small and light tube, 1/2"X.032 I think. Also he
> just
> has a small strap wrapped around the top of the cabane (not welded) to
> attach the diagonal brace to. Most Piet guys take the cross bracing
> cables
> out after they get the wing location set. Hopefully they use heaver
> tube
> for the diagonal brace and weld the fitting to the top of the
> cabane. Your
> diagonal braces look a little bigger than the braces on my GN-1. If
> you
> have any second thoughts I would put cross braces in.
> Skip
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>> That reminds me. It finally dawned on me that the GN-1 that I
>> bought is
> the only one I've ever seen w/out the cross bracing cables that
> crisscross
> between the wing struts.
>> Larry
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Yeah... it's lacking the cables that criss cross between the lift struts. I already
bought the 'tangs' (that the strut attach bolts go thru) from AS&S for the
cables I will install. I was thinking that stainless flying wires might be better/stronger....
until I saw the pricing on it. Anything (cable) would be better
than nothing.. I hope..
Larry
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My goof! Now I understand why someone said they would not fly a Piet
without them.
Skip
> Yeah... it's lacking the cables that criss cross between the lift struts.
I already bought the 'tangs' (that the strut attach bolts go thru) from
AS&S for the cables I will install. I was thinking that stainless flying
wires might be better/stronger.... until I saw the pricing on it. Anything
(cable) would be better than nothing.. I hope..
>
> Larry
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Engine |
Just looking at the photos, and I can't figure out where you sit on that buggy,
let alone how you steer it. That is one small vehicle!
BC
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Subject: | Re: Shad flying back home... |
Hi Jim,
Really great set of pictures, thanks for making them available.
Jim B.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:17:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shad flying back home...
Neat picture of a REAL airplane departing from Lee Bottom...
http://web.me.com/shelbysmith/EAA_162/Lee_Bottom_2010.html#81
There are some other good pictures on that website of the Bell's Air Camper...
Very nice....I am really jealous!
jm
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Subject: | Re: Shad flying back home... |
My pleasure....and I only WISH I had done more than just "point" to pictures someone
ELSE got to take!!! Sure wish I could have been there....while these pictures
were being taken I was driving around (ok, LEARNING to drive around) in
a Bobcat...moving dirt piles from one spot to the other....yuck!
Actually being at Lee Bottom would have been SO much more fun!
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
>Sent: Sep 28, 2010 2:15 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shad flying back home...
>
>
>Hi Jim,
>Really great set of pictures, thanks for making them available.
>Jim B.
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>To: "Pietenpol List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:17:30 AM
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shad flying back home...
>
>
>Neat picture of a REAL airplane departing from Lee Bottom...
>
>http://web.me.com/shelbysmith/EAA_162/Lee_Bottom_2010.html#81
>
>There are some other good pictures on that website of the Bell's Air Camper...
>
>Very nice....I am really jealous!
>
>jm
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Engine |
Hey Tom,
-
Great talking to you last night! I look forward to visiting with you and bu
ilding these beautiful airplanes.
-
I finished the layout of the fuse sides last night and decided to utilize t
he shorter version of the fuse as listed in the Flyer and Glider Manual. Wi
th my weight I have taken note from others the plane tends to be tail heavy
if usig the long fuse.
I will be applying glue this Saturday after returning back from my conferen
ce to Orlando. I have- a new tail wheel from Aircraft Spruce which should
work very well.
I am going to study the tail section as I like the squareness of the stabil
izer you pointed out. I believe the cross pieces in the improved design are
a better stronger layout. Otherwise everything else is the same.
-
As the fuse glue drys for a few days, I will probably start cutting my rib
parts. Remember, a paper cutter works great for cutting the plywood gussett
s (if you are using the square design)
-
Ken Heide
PO Box 1026
814 Elizabeth Street
Hawley, MN 56549
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cell 701-793-3030
work 701-433-3198
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Engine
KM,
I'm in Alexandria, MN and would be interested in maybe meeting with both yo
u and Vern.- I'm early in my build (started building ribs a week ago and
have five done) but I'm interested in the Corvair engine.- Let me know.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Shad flying back home... |
Hi Jim,
Driving a Bobcat would be lots of fun too; unless you accidently moved something
you shouldn't.
Jim B.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shad flying back home...
My pleasure....and I only WISH I had done more than just "point" to pictures someone
ELSE got to take!!! Sure wish I could have been there....while these pictures
were being taken I was driving around (ok, LEARNING to drive around) in
a Bobcat...moving dirt piles from one spot to the other....yuck!
Actually being at Lee Bottom would have been SO much more fun!
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
>Sent: Sep 28, 2010 2:15 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shad flying back home...
>
>
>Hi Jim,
>Really great set of pictures, thanks for making them available.
>Jim B.
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>To: "Pietenpol List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:17:30 AM
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shad flying back home...
>
>
>Neat picture of a REAL airplane departing from Lee Bottom...
>
>http://web.me.com/shelbysmith/EAA_162/Lee_Bottom_2010.html#81
>
>There are some other good pictures on that website of the Bell's Air Camper...
>
>Very nice....I am really jealous!
>
>jm
>
>
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Subject: | Encoder Installation |
You're absolutely right and i likely will install a transponder down the ro
ad.
Just like my motorcycle days, at a certain point I was no longer content wi
th toolin' around town and had to take off across country.
Jeff Wilson
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From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Encoder Installation
=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0AEncoder Installation=0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AJust because you fly a Pietenpol doesn=99t=0Amean
you have to avoid flying in to Class C or Class B airspace.=C2- I
=99ve=0Ahad mine in both, several times.=C2- Invariably draws questions f
rom the tower =93=0A=9CSay, just what kind of airplane IS that?
=9D =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AI would not have been able to put mine on=0Ad
isplay at the Smithsonian=99s Udvar-Hazy museum=99s Be a Pilot
Family=0ADay, if I did not have a transponder.=C2- Flying through the Was
hington ADIZ and=0Alanding at Dulles International was a thrill! =0A=0A =C2
- =0A=0AJack=0A Phillips =0A=0ANX899JP =0A=0ARaleigh, NC =0A=0A =C2-
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom:=0A owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronic
s.com [mailto:=0A owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of
jeff=0A wilson
=0ASent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010=0A8:41 AM
=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List:=0AEncoder Installation =0A=0A=0A=0A =C2-
=0A=0AEncoder? Transponder? Large wire=0Abundle? What are those?
=0AOh, I must be on the wrong forum. I'm building a Pietenpol.
=0AJeff Wilson
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=0ADo Not Archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: =0AJack Phillips <pietflyr@
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=0ASent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:54 AM
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=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Encoder=0AInstallation =0A=0AI put mine rig
ht next to the transponder,=0Ain the centersection =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AJack
Phillips =0A=0A =0A=0ANX899JP =0A=0ARaleigh,=0A NC =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A=0A
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=0AWas=0Awondering where others located their encoders.=C2- Close to tran
sponder, or=0Astatic source?=C2- My Trans-Cal manual says it should be as
=0Aclose as possible to the altimeter.=C2- Since I=99m mounting my
=0Atransponder in the center section, I would rather run the static line do
wn=0Athrough the struts rather than the large wire bundle.=C2- Any though
ts? =0A=0AThanks, =0A=0AJack =0A=0ADSM =0A=0A =C2- =C2-http://www.matro
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Stainless cable can be wrapped using the proper flux,For the extra $40 I'd rather
have real aircraft stainless its cheaper than a coffin.Stainless is FAA PMA
certified as is galvanized.You have yearly inspections,part of that is cable
inspection,all cables wear out.Replace as needed.The recommended cable sizes ie
3/32 for everything but the elevator and 1/8 for the elevator is what is required
no more no less.If any aircraft cable broke from going around a recommended
bend radius it would never get an FAA PMA stamp.If you use certified parts
you may have a bit less money,if you don't someone might use the money you saved
for your funeral.Being cheap is always more costly.
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chiefpepperhead(at)hotmai wrote:
> Someone else pipe up here if Im wrong, but I have no idea what would keep the
wing from twisting around the vertical axis relative to the fuselage. With the
configuration of a Piet or a GN-1 and parallel lift struts it would appear to
me that you would have to have the cross bracing. Other designs get around this
of course by the "V" configuration of the lift struts.
>
>
My GN-1 plans clearly show the cables between the struts on the assembled 3d drawing.
Jon Coxwell
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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TriScout wrote:
> Yeah... it's lacking the cables that criss cross between the lift struts. I already
bought the 'tangs' (that the strut attach bolts go thru) from AS&S for
the cables I will install. I was thinking that stainless flying wires might be
better/stronger.... until I saw the pricing on it. Anything (cable) would be
better than nothing.. I hope..
>
> Larry
Dillsburg Airplane works has aircraft cables for about 1/2 the price of Aircraft
Spruce. They are lubed as well. I am using 3/32" 7x19 galv. for all control
cables and 1/8" 7x19 galv. for flying wires. Dillsburg does not have a website
so you have to call for price. They will send you a price list.
Jon Coxwell
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Subject: | turnbuckles & blasting cabinet. |
I've just been lurking for awhile, but have made some progress that I thought I
would share. (Building / rebuilding a GN-1 project.)
The turn buckles in my project were huge. Our local DAR suggested they were good
for a 737. I'll bet I have 10# if turnbuckles. I decided to change them all
and looked at the AS price. Long story short I decided to build my own. I
saw a great light weight turnbuckle at Broadhead and decided to copy them with
some changes. Built a prototype and tested it today. I put 1250 pounds tension
until I reached the yield point of my testing beam and no damage to the turnbuckle.
The prototype has 3/8" brass barrel and 3/16" ends with loop ends
which are braised. I am going to try stainless steel ends but fabrication may
be more difficult. I plan on about 20 of them if my count is correct and I have
about $100 which includes 10/32 right and left hand taps and dies, in material
which will make twice that number. Clevises will be from used M-cycle chain
side plates held together with 10/32 AN bolts. Photos attached. Lots of time
but certainly some cost savings.
Another project which may be of interest is the sand blasting cabinet I made from
scrap odds and ends in the shop. I have $20 in it for a light and rubber gloves
the rest was stuff I had laying around. I think one could build one for
under $50 buying all new plus a $15 sand blasting gun from Harbor freight.
The sand runs out into a 5 gal bucket through a boot made of house wrap, and is
reused through a plastic tube connected to the gun. Needs 80 PSI to work with
my gun and I need to stop every 10 min. to let the home made compressor catch
up. I built it to allow longer tubes to be fed in one end and out the other.
Does a great job of cleaning up welds and taking off minor rust. Photos attached
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