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1. 04:06 AM - Mechanic's Toolbox (Jack)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: cables (Bill Church)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: outstanding interview with Greg Cardinal at EAA 09 about his and Dale's Pietenpol ! (Gary Boothe)
4. 06:33 AM - Re: cables (TriScout)
5. 09:26 AM - Re: cables (Piep)
6. 11:43 AM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Dan Yocum)
7. 11:58 AM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Kip and Beth Gardner)
8. 12:36 PM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Harvey Rule)
9. 05:53 PM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Doug Dever)
10. 06:04 PM - C-90 For Sale - $3500 (Jack)
11. 06:38 PM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Dan Yocum)
12. 06:54 PM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Rick Holland)
13. 07:20 PM - Ribs/Varnish (Peter Anderson)
14. 07:30 PM - Re: Ribs/Varnish (Ben Charvet)
15. 08:06 PM - Re: Ribs/Varnish (K5YAC)
16. 08:06 PM - Re: cables (TriScout)
17. 09:01 PM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (Harvey Rule)
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| Subject: | Mechanic's Toolbox |
Very informative site which includes videos similar to Eaa's
http://www.mechanicsupport.com/index.html
Jack
DSM
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Just looking at the photo of the Piet that Charlie attached (I assume that is the
plane that you're restoring, Charlie), and noticed the unusual landing gear
configuration. The thing that caught my eye initially was how squat the landing
gear looks, and only later noticed the different arrangement. Almost like a
straight axle split gear.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | outstanding interview with Greg Cardinal at EAA 09 |
about his and Dale's Pietenpol !
"He is the best, isn't he."
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: outstanding interview with Greg Cardinal at EAA 09
about his and Dale's Pietenpol !
Please excuse me if this was posted previously list but Grant MacLaren, our
newsletter editor for the BPA from 1989 to 1999 send
me this fantastic link.
You were really well-spoken Greg and gave a nice synopsis of what building
and flying a Pietenpol is like. Good job---you make us all proud !
Mike C.
http://www.americanflyers.net/entertainment/interviews/pietenpol_aircamper.h
tm
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Hey Piep (Charlie)..
How's that 'ol Piet coming along? I bid on that one up in Oscaloosa, but you won
her. That was before I bought my GN-1 recently..
Larry
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Hi Larry,
Glad to hear you got your airplane. Congratulations! So far I have put in about
500 hours labor on the Piet. The engine also needed to be overhauled and I
will have it finished in the next couple of days, so hope to have it in the air
in the next couple of weeks.
The landing gear question....I think the guy that original builder tried to modify
a cub style gear to put on the airplane. It is much wider than any other
Piet I have seen and with the extra bracing definitely weighs more. I will see
how it does, but will probably change it back to the original gear.
The bigger problem is the tail. The vertical stab/rudder are over 6 ft. tall!
Early in the Piet's life, it was ground looped in a 19 knot xwind and the owner
blamed the small tail. I think it will probably be one of the first things
to be rebuilt. Also, I think most Piets weigh in at about 650lbs. empty. This
one is 825lbs. Not sure where all the extra weight came from, but I will reweigh
it after putting the Continental 65 back on the airplane.
As a side note: I found out from some old newsletters that Pietenpol afficianodos
are sometimes referred to as "Peeps". As it turns out, my wife's favorite
candy is the easter marshmallow chicken (Peep). Since the airplane is painted
with Army colors, I decided it needed some nose art. I have had the Peep chicken
redrawn with goggles, a scarf, and leather flying helmet and the logo changed
to "Piep" hence the name. Once the nose art is installed, I will post a
picture.
Thanks again to everyone for their help and suggestions.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Those that have, and those that will... |
Hey, what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
aisle at Advance Auto, yesterday...
*snicker*
I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
Thanks Perry and Jack,
Dan
On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found that
> after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has on my 22
> year old RV-4), causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a product (I
> think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) that
> works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's
> Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get you to
> their accessories catalog, where you can order it. Here is the link for the
> sealant itself:
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1285950996-308-645&bro
> wse=misc&product=proseal
> Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Raleigh, NC
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Those that have, and those that will... |
Well, if you want to seal your fingers....
On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> Hey, what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
> aisle at Advance Auto, yesterday...
>
> *snicker*
>
> I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
>
> Thanks Perry and Jack,
> Dan
>
>
> On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack
>> Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found
>> that
>> after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has
>> on my 22
>> year old RV-4), causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a
>> product (I
>> think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!)
>> that
>> works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's
>> Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
>> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will
>> get you to
>> their accessories catalog, where you can order it. Here is the
>> link for the
>> sealant itself:
>> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?
>> ident=1285950996-308-645&bro
>> wse=misc&product=proseal
>> Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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| Subject: | Those that have, and those that will... |
Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber trim fo
r my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come out th
e sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box cutter kn
ife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially when glueing t
wo different materials together like rubber and metal(aluminum in this case
).As to whether it work well glueing the many pieces of wood together in th
e plane=2CI don't know.Perhaps someone else with more experience with the s
tuff could chime in here and give you an answer.
> Date: Sat=2C 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
> From: yocum@fnal.gov
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have=2C and those that will...
>
>
> Hey=2C what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
> aisle at Advance Auto=2C yesterday...
>
> *snicker*
>
> I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
>
> Thanks Perry and Jack=2C
> Dan
>
>
> On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM=2C Jack Phillips wrote:
h.net>
> >
> > A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found that
> > after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has on m
y 22
> > year old RV-4)=2C causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a produ
ct (I
> > think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) that
> > works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's
> > Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get you
to
> > their accessories catalog=2C where you can order it. Here is the link f
or the
> > sealant itself:
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1285950996-308-
645&bro
> > wse=misc&product=proseal
> > Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Jack Phillips
> > NX899JP
> > Raleigh=2C NC
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov=2C http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | Those that have, and those that will... |
Seems to me there was a reason stated a while back why Gorilla Glue is not
good. I'll stick with T-88. Resourcinol is also good for the purists. Ca
sein for the real purist. I think casein and cardboard for the leading edg
e and gussets would work pretty good.
I hope no one takes the casein and cardboard comment seriously.
do not archive
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
From: harvey.rule@bell.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Those that have=2C and those that will...
Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber trim fo
r my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come out th
e sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box cutter kn
ife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially when glueing t
wo different materials together like rubber and metal(aluminum in this case
).As to whether it work well glueing the many pieces of wood together in th
e plane=2CI don't know.Perhaps someone else with more experience with the s
tuff could chime in here and give you an answer.
> Date: Sat=2C 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
> From: yocum@fnal.gov
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have=2C and those that will...
>
>
> Hey=2C what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
> aisle at Advance Auto=2C yesterday...
>
> *snicker*
>
> I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
>
> Thanks Perry and Jack=2C
> Dan
>
>
> On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM=2C Jack Phillips wrote:
h.net>
> >
> > A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found that
> > after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has on m
y 22
> > year old RV-4)=2C causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a produ
ct (I
> > think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) that
> > works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's
> > Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get you
to
> > their accessories catalog=2C where you can order it. Here is the link f
or the
> > sealant itself:
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1285950996-308-
645&bro
> > wse=misc&product=proseal
> > Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Jack Phillips
> > NX899JP
> > Raleigh=2C NC
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov=2C http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>====================
> _=========
>
>
>
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| Subject: | C-90 For Sale - $3500 |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220677340308&v
iewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: Those that have, and those that will... |
Harvey,
My gorilla glue comment was made completely in jest, just to get Jack's
goat. I'd never use the stuff in a structural application (search the
archives for all the derisive comments made about gorilla glue). I
think most people have been "not amused" when they used it, though there
are some reports of success. YMMV.
Clearly, the solution for my fuel tank patch is the Pro-Seal from Vans.
Cheers!
Dan
On 10/02/2010 02:32 PM, Harvey Rule wrote:
> Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber trim
> for my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come
> out the sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box
> cutter knife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially
> when glueing two different materials together like rubber and
> metal(aluminum in this case).As to whether it work well glueing the many
> pieces of wood together in the plane,I don't know.Perhaps someone else
> with more experience with the stuff could chime in here and give you an
> answer.
>
> > Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
> > From: yocum@fnal.gov
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have, and those that will...
> >
> >
> > Hey, what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
> > aisle at Advance Auto, yesterday...
> >
> > *snicker*
> >
> > I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
> >
> > Thanks Perry and Jack,
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found that
> > > after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has
> on my 22
> > > year old RV-4), causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a
> product (I
> > > think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) that
> > > works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's
> > > Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
> > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get
> you to
> > > their accessories catalog, where you can order it. Here is the link
> for the
> > > sealant itself:
> > >
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1285950996-308-645&bro
> > > wse=misc&product=proseal
> > > Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Jack Phillips
> > > NX899JP
> > > Raleigh, NC
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dan Yocum
> > Fermilab 630.840.6509
> > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> >
> >====================
> > _=========
> >
> >
> >
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Those that have, and those that will... |
Here is one reason not to trust your life to polyurethane glue. My mock
fuselage (or whats left of it, it looks a lot worse now), built with Excel.
rick
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Doug Dever <chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Seems to me there was a reason stated a while back why Gorilla Glue is not
> good. I'll stick with T-88. Resourcinol is also good for the purists.
> Casein for the real purist. I think casein and cardboard for the leading
> edge and gussets would work pretty good.
>
> I hope no one takes the casein and cardboard comment seriously.
>
> do not archive
>
> Doug Dever
> In beautiful Stow Ohio
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: harvey.rule@bell.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Those that have, and those that will...
> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 19:32:39 +0000
>
> Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber trim
> for my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come out
> the sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box
> cutter knife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially
> when glueing two different materials together like rubber and metal(aluminum
> in this case).As to whether it work well glueing the many pieces of wood
> together in the plane,I don't know.Perhaps someone else with more experience
> with the stuff could chime in here and give you an answer.
>
> > Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
> > From: yocum@fnal.gov
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have, and those that will...
> >
> >
> > Hey, what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
> > aisle at Advance Auto, yesterday...
> >
> > *snicker*
> >
> > I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
> >
> > Thanks Perry and Jack,
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found that
> > > after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has on
> my 22
> > > year old RV-4), causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a product
> (I
> > > think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!) that
> > > works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van's
> > > Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
> > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get you
> to
> > > their accessories catalog, where you can order it. Here is the link for
> the
> > > sealant itself:
> > >
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1285950996-308-645&bro
> > > wse=misc&product=proseal
> > > Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Jack Phillips
> > > NX899JP
> > > Raleigh, NC
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dan Yocum
> > Fermilab 630.840.6509
> > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> >
> >====================
> > _=========
> >
> >
> >
>
> *
>
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> ttp://forums.matronics.com
> =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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This is the first wooden aircraft I have built and its great. This site ha
s helped a bunch. I have completed several ribs and am curious. Do I need
to apply any varnish yet to protect from moisture etc. Or should I just w
ait until the entire wing is ready? Thanks.
Pete Anderson
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs/Varnish |
I waited until the wing was all together, You will probably want to do
some final block sanding to smooth our the joints between your
leading/trailing edges and the ribs. It would definitely be easier to
varnish the areas inside the gussets at this point though. I used over
3 quarts of spar varnish on my wings (one thinned coat, one full
strength), so when you get to that point you might find it more
economical to just buy a gallon.
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
50 hours so far!
On 10/2/2010 10:15 PM, Peter Anderson wrote:
> This is the first wooden aircraft I have built and its great. This
> site has helped a bunch. I have completed several ribs and am
> curious. Do I need to apply any varnish yet to protect from moisture
> etc. Or should I just wait until the entire wing is ready? Thanks.
>
> Pete Anderson
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs/Varnish |
I masked off the areas I intended to glue (LE, TE, etc.) and applied spar varnish
to each rib. Not sure that it was necessary, or if I would do it that way again,
but it definitely is easier to get to those little nooks when you can hold
the ribs in your hands.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Neat story about the 'peeps'..
I just cleaned up the flight deck a bit over last few days. Got rid of all the
velcro and hung the motor (in my garage). Note my new "avionics suite" (old garmin
gps). Tried to go for the good ol' JN-4 look w/the control sticks in lieu
of the silly bicycle grips. Found wooden balls for the throttles at the local
farts&crafts store. I guess all I have to scrounge for now is a carb heat box
and a prop, before assembly of the machine. Got all the nuts&bolts, gaskets,
supplies, etc from AS&S.
I'm not much in a hurry...will snoop around online for a prop to prop up via the
world wide web.. probably just buy a new carb air box .. (will attempt a few
photos) .. lar
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| Subject: | Those that have, and those that will... |
OK=2Cunderstood=2CLOL!!!Thanks
do not archive
> Date: Sat=2C 2 Oct 2010 20:34:30 -0500
> From: yocum@fnal.gov
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have=2C and those that will...
>
>
> Harvey=2C
>
> My gorilla glue comment was made completely in jest=2C just to get Jack's
> goat. I'd never use the stuff in a structural application (search the
> archives for all the derisive comments made about gorilla glue). I
> think most people have been "not amused" when they used it=2C though ther
e
> are some reports of success. YMMV.
>
> Clearly=2C the solution for my fuel tank patch is the Pro-Seal from Vans.
>
> Cheers!
> Dan
>
>
> On 10/02/2010 02:32 PM=2C Harvey Rule wrote:
> > Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber tri
m
> > for my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come
> > out the sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box
> > cutter knife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially
> > when glueing two different materials together like rubber and
> > metal(aluminum in this case).As to whether it work well glueing the man
y
> > pieces of wood together in the plane=2CI don't know.Perhaps someone els
e
> > with more experience with the stuff could chime in here and give you an
> > answer.
> >
> > > Date: Sat=2C 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
> > > From: yocum@fnal.gov
> > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have=2C and those that will..
.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey=2C what do you think about Gorilla glue? I saw it in the sealant
> > > aisle at Advance Auto=2C yesterday...
> > >
> > > *snicker*
> > >
> > > I'll order an oz or two of Pro-Seal on Monday.
> > >
> > > Thanks Perry and Jack=2C
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/01/2010 11:39 AM=2C Jack Phillips wrote:
> > Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> > > >
> > > > A slight correction - Van's no longer uses "Pro-Seal". They found t
hat
> > > > after about 20 years Pro-Seal gets brittle and cracks (like it has
> > on my 22
> > > > year old RV-4)=2C causing leaks around the rivets. Now they use a
> > product (I
> > > > think it is called Dyna-Seal) made by FlameMaster (love the name!)
that
> > > > works better but is a major pain to apply. You can get it from Van'
s
> > > > Aircraft. On their website you can order it directly:
> > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi This link will get
> > you to
> > > > their accessories catalog=2C where you can order it. Here is the li
nk
> > for the
> > > > sealant itself:
> > > >
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1285950996-308-
645&bro
> > > > wse=misc&product=proseal
> > > > Note that they (and everybody else) still refer to it as ProSeal.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > >
> > > > Jack Phillips
> > > > NX899JP
> > > > Raleigh=2C NC
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dan Yocum
> > > Fermilab 630.840.6509
> > > yocum@fnal.gov=2C http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> > > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> > >
> > >====================
> > > _=========
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov=2C http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
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