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     1. 12:08 AM - Corvair Roars to Life (Gary Boothe)
     2. 12:17 AM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Billy McCaskill)
     3. 05:00 AM - Re: Ribs/Varnish (Jack Phillips)
     4. 06:31 AM - Re: Ribs/Varnish (peterk48)
     5. 06:56 AM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (V Groah)
     6. 07:03 AM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Gary Boothe)
     7. 07:10 AM - Re: Those that have, and those that will... (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     8. 07:22 AM - More sad news  (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     9. 07:29 AM - Re: C-90 For Sale - $3500 (dgaldrich)
    10. 07:29 AM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Jack Phillips)
    11. 07:52 AM - Ribs/Varnish (Oscar Zuniga)
    12. 07:59 AM - polyurethane Gorilla Glue (Oscar Zuniga)
    13. 08:02 AM - Fw: More sad news (amsafetyc@aol.com)
    14. 08:13 AM - More sad news (Jim Markle)
    15. 10:13 AM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Rick Holland)
    16. 10:26 AM - " Golden Eagles Flights" (Ben Charvet)
    17. 11:25 AM - Re: More sad news (echobravo4)
    18. 01:17 PM - Re: Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Jack)
    19. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Jack Phillips)
    20. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Corvair Roars to Life (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    21. 03:16 PM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (airlion)
    22. 03:18 PM - Re: More sad news (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
    23. 04:02 PM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Billy McCaskill)
    24. 04:08 PM - Re: Corvair Roars to Life (Ryan Mueller)
    25. 04:30 PM - Re: More sad news (Jack Phillips)
    26. 04:39 PM - Re: More sad news  (helspersew@aol.com)
    27. 04:55 PM - Re: More sad news (Jerry Dotson)
    28. 05:27 PM - Re: More sad news  (Steve Singleton)
    29. 07:09 PM - Re: " Golden Eagles Flights" (kevinpurtee)
    30. 08:04 PM - Re: polyurethane Gorilla Glue (jorge lizarraga)
    31. 09:07 PM - Re: Ribs/Varnish (K5YAC)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      All,
      
      
      I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today at
      CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and videos
      to follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work and
      dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan Mueller and Mike
      Studer!!! 
      
      
      Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW.those straight pipes are sooo cool!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      
      Awesome news Gary!  Can't wait to see the pictures, videos and the full story of
      the first breaths of your Corvair!
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314461#314461
      
      
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      Depends on how moist your work area is.  If storing them indoors, it should
      be fine to wait until you've assembled the wing.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
      Anderson
      Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 10:16 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ribs/Varnish
      
      
      This is the first wooden aircraft I have built and its great.  This site has
      helped a bunch.  I have completed several ribs and am curious.  Do I need to
      apply any varnish yet to protect from moisture etc.  Or should I just wait
      until the entire wing is ready?  Thanks.
      
      
      Pete Anderson
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ribs/Varnish | 
      
      
      
      K5YAC wrote:
      > I masked off the areas I intended to glue (LE, TE, etc.) and applied spar varnish
      to each rib. Not sure that it was necessary, or if I would do it that way
      again, but it definitely is easier to get to those little nooks when you can
      hold the ribs in your hands.
      
      
      Thanks Mark.  In looking at your Kitlog I also seemed to notice that you didn't
      cut out the TE notch until you did the wing.  Is that typical?  It would make
      sense.
      
      Pete
      
      --------
      Pete
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314470#314470
      
      
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| Subject:  | Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      
      GREAT STUFF!!!!  It seems like forever to move forward but stuff does happe
      n.  Congratulations Gary=2C you are one of the good guys.  Great to hear yo
      u have made this big step forward.  It seems like the beast comes to life i
      n some way when the engine runs.  We have about 2 hours on ours and have a 
      the first public showing scheduled today for our engine.  We are going to s
      weep the back yard with the prop again.  Hope we will both be at a fly in s
      ome day soon.  Vic 
      
      do not archive.  
      
      
      From: gboothe5@comcast.net
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      
      All=2C
      
      I have had this engine closed up for 6 years=2C but it came to life today a
      t CC#18=2C approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story=2C and pictures and 
      videos to follow=2C but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard wo
      rk and dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne=2C Ryan Mueller and 
      Mike Studer!!! 
      
      Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW=85those straight pipes are sooo coo
      l!
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool=2C Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion=2C mounted 
      Tail done=2C Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down=85) 
      
      
       		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      Thanks, Vic. Video of a public showing would be interesting! Good luck.
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      Do not archive
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
      Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 6:54 AM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      
      GREAT STUFF!!!!  It seems like forever to move forward but stuff does
      happen.  Congratulations Gary, you are one of the good guys.  Great to hear
      you have made this big step forward.  It seems like the beast comes to life
      in some way when the engine runs.  We have about 2 hours on ours and have a
      the first public showing scheduled today for our engine.  We are going to
      sweep the back yard with the prop again.  Hope we will both be at a fly in
      some day soon.  Vic 
      
      do not archive.  
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: gboothe5@comcast.net
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      All,
      
      
      I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today at
      CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and videos
      to follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work and
      dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan Mueller and Mike
      Studer!!! 
      
      
      Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW.those straight pipes are sooo cool!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      
      st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      ttp://forums.matronics.com
      =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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| Subject:  | Those that have, and those that will... | 
      
      No to get overly stuck on the old glue topic again however titebond lll T88  
      and west system are the only adhesives used on my project to date. The only  
      gorilla in my piet is gonna be me
      
      Do not archive
      
      John
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      -----Original message-----
      From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
      Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 04:01:59 GMT+00:00
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Those that have, and those that will...
      
      
      OK,understood,LOL!!!Thanks
      
      do not archive
      
      > Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:34:30 -0500
      > From: yocum@fnal.gov
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Those that have, and those that will...
      > 
      > 
      > Harvey,
      > 
      > My gorilla glue comment was made completely in jest, just to get Jack's 
      > goat. I'd never use the stuff in a structural application (search the 
      > archives for all the derisive comments made about gorilla glue). I 
      > think most people have been "not amused" when they used it, though there 
      > are some reports of success. YMMV.
      > 
      > Clearly, the solution for my fuel tank patch is the Pro-Seal from Vans.
      > 
      > Cheers!
      > Dan
      > 
      > 
      > On 10/02/2010 02:32 PM, Harvey Rule wrote:
      > > Be aware that this glue expands while curing.I used it on my rubber trim
      > > for my wing cover ends and I was not amused as the stuff began to come
      > > out the sides of the rubber trim.I had to cut the excess off with a box
      > > cutter knife because it looked like hell.It does hold well especially
      > > when glueing two different materials together like rubber and
      > > metal(aluminum in this case).As to whether it work well glueing the many
      > > pieces of wood together in the plane,I don't know.Perhaps someone else
      > > with more experience with the stuff could chime in here and give you an
      > > answer.
      > >
      > > > Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 13:41:03 -0500
      > > > From: yocum@fn
      
      
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      As some of you may know 7 months ago my mom passed away while i was  
      traveling. This past thursday while i was again traveling and was able to  
      get to my dad to say goodbye as he drew his last breath on october 1 and now  
      joins my mom. 
      
      2010 is and has been an awful year for us hope you all understand and  
      forgive my sharp comments at times as we try to work through this difficult  
      period. 
      
      Thanks for understanding thoughts and prayers in advance
      
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: C-90 For Sale - $3500 | 
      
      
      It's the -8 version so no electrics, at least none show.  Don't know if the -12
      cases are available or if the O-200 might be adaptable (I suspect no).
      
      Dave Aldrich
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314477#314477
      
      
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| Subject:  | Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      Great news all around, even if it is a Corvair.  Looking forward to seeing
      it at Brodhead, Gary.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
      Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:54 AM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      
      GREAT STUFF!!!!  It seems like forever to move forward but stuff does
      happen.  Congratulations Gary, you are one of the good guys.  Great to hear
      you have made this big step forward.  It seems like the beast comes to life
      in some way when the engine runs.  We have about 2 hours on ours and have a
      the first public showing scheduled today for our engine.  We are going to
      sweep the back yard with the prop again.  Hope we will both be at a fly in
      some day soon.  Vic 
      
      do not archive.  
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: gboothe5@comcast.net
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      All,
      
      
      I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today at
      CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and videos
      to follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work and
      dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan Mueller and Mike
      Studer!!! 
      
      
      Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW.those straight pipes are sooo cool!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      
      st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      ttp://forums.matronics.com
      =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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      Although I didn't build 41CC, I've seen plenty of other
      builders' hints and tips, and most of them seem to say
      it's easiest to wait till the wing is all complete to
      do the varnishing.  One good tip from the old newsletters
      involves getting a pump-type oil can and connecting a
      piece of plastic tubing to the spout, then running that
      to a brush so that you can just keep feeding varnish to
      the brush without continually dipping into a can.
      
      Unless I'm mistaken, Mike Cuy's video shows that he did
      the completed wings with varnish at the end.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | polyurethane Gorilla Glue | 
      
      
      
      My two cents on Gorilla Glue.  Yes, it foams
      and expands as it cures.  Yes, it is inferior
      to other good glues and epoxies in every test
      I've read about.  Yes, it is inexpensive and
      readily available.  Yes, it will harden up into
      a useless rock in its container over time (not
      as long as you'd think), so use it or lose it.
      
      My only experiences with actual applications of
      it were not good; both failed.  On my airplane,
      I used it in a non-structural and inconspicuous
      location to reattach some thin plywood to two
      wood framing members.  The glue joints failed
      when an inexperienced passenger's shoe pushed
      on the backside of the plywood.  In the other
      application, one wooden handle of my hedge trimmer
      came loose from the steel handle.  I pulled
      off the handle, gooped plenty of Gorilla Glue
      down the hole after moistening (water is the
      activator), jammed the steel tang back in, and
      let it cure.  The joint held for a few months
      but eventually the glue crumbled and failed.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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      Not to beat this.  Here is a resend in the event you received a corrupt  
      message from me
      
      John
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      -----Original message-----
      From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
      Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 14:22:30 GMT+00:00
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: More sad news
      
      As some of you may know 7 months ago my mom passed away while i was  
      traveling. This past thursday while i was again traveling and was able to  
      get to my dad to say goodbye as he drew his last breath on october 1 and now  
      
      joins my mom. 
      
      2010 is and has been an awful year for us hope you all understand and  
      forgive my sharp comments at times as we try to work through this difficult   
      
      period. 
      
      Thanks for understanding thoughts and prayers in advance
      
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      
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      Our dear friend John, 
      
      Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
      
      
      As some of you may know 7 months ago my mom passed away while i was traveling.
      This past thursday while i was again traveling and was able to get to my dad to
      say goodbye as he drew his last breath on october 1 and now joins my mom. 
      
      2010 is and has been an awful year for us hope you all understand and forgive my
      sharp comments at times as we try to work through this difficult period. 
      
      Thanks for understanding thoughts and prayers in advance
      
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      Congratulations Gary, don't you love the sound of those straight pipes? I
      have attended 3 Corvairs Colleges. They definitely broke the mold when they
      made WW.
      
      The gear-heads in the neighborhood come a running when I start mine in my
      driveway. Kind of reminds me of the time I installed exhaust cut-outs in my
      first car, a 53 Ford flathead 8.
      
      rick
      
      On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  All,
      >
      >
      > I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today a
      t
      > CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and vide
      os
      > to follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work and
      > dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan Mueller and Mike
      > Studer!!!
      >
      >
      > Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW=85those straight pipes are sooo c
      ool!
      >
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      > Cool, Ca.
      > Pietenpol
      > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      > (20 ribs down=85)
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | " Golden Eagles Flights" | 
      
        I've attached a pdf file copy of our local EAA chapter newsletter, 
      with an article I wrote about "Golden Eagle" flights.  Thought you 
      guys/gals might enjoy
        Ben
      
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| Subject:  | Re: More sad news | 
      
      
      John;
      you have my deepest sympathy, i am sorry for your loss.
      
      Earl
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Earl Brown
      
      I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
      intended to be.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314508#314508
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      That was my first car also
      
      Jack Textor
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Oct 3, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Congratulations Gary, don't you love the sound of those straight pipes? I h
      ave attended 3 Corvairs Colleges. They definitely broke the mold when they m
      ade WW.
      > 
      > The gear-heads in the neighborhood come a running when I start mine in my d
      riveway. Kind of reminds me of the time I installed exhaust cut-outs in my f
      irst car, a 53 Ford flathead 8.
      > 
      > rick
      > 
      > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      > All,
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today at
       CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and videos
       to follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work and de
      dication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan Mueller and Mike Studer!
      !!
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Thanks to all of you for your help! BTWthose straight pipes are s
      ooo cool!
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Gary Boothe 
      > Cool, Ca. 
      > Pietenpol 
      > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      > (20 ribs down)
      > 
      >  
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      My first car was actually a 1966 110hp Corvair.  Fun to drive, but very poor
      quality.  Not a terribly reliable engine, either.
      
      
      I hear some people are actually putting those things in aeroplanes these
      days.
      
      
      Best of luck, Gary
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 4:12 PM
      Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      
      That was my first car also
      
      Jack Textor
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      
      On Oct 3, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      Congratulations Gary, don't you love the sound of those straight pipes? I
      have attended 3 Corvairs Colleges. They definitely broke the mold when they
      made WW.
      
      The gear-heads in the neighborhood come a running when I start mine in my
      driveway. Kind of reminds me of the time I installed exhaust cut-outs in my
      first car, a 53 Ford flathead 8.
      
      rick
      
      On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Gary Boothe < <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>
      gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      All,
      
      
      I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today at
      CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and videos
      to follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work and
      dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan Mueller and Mike
      Studer!!! 
      
      
      Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW.those straight pipes are sooo cool!
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (20 ribs down.) 
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" 
      
      
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      way to go Gary, now you can start really having fun. =0ACheers, Gardiner=0A
      =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Rick Holland <at7000ft
      @gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, October 3, 2010
       1:11:04 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life=0A=0ACongr
      atulations Gary, don't you love the sound of those straight pipes? I have 
      =0Aattended 3 Corvairs Colleges. They definitely broke the mold when they m
      ade WW.=0A=0AThe gear-heads in the neighborhood come a running when I start
       mine in my =0Adriveway. Kind of reminds me of the time I installed exhaust
       cut-outs in my =0Afirst car, a 53 Ford flathead 8.=0A=0Arick=0A=0A=0AOn Su
      n, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:=0A=0AA
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      fe today at =0A>CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pic
      tures and videos to =0A>follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to
       the hard work and dedication =0A>yesterday and today by William Wynne, Rya
      n Mueller and Mike Studer!!! =0A>=0A> =0A>Thanks to all of you for your hel
      p! BTWthose straight pipes are sooo cool!=0A> =0A>Gary Boothe =0A>
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair Roars to Life | 
      
      
      Gardiner, he can't have too much fun until he finishes building those ribs for
      his wing.  Now that the engine first-run is out of the way, maybe he'll build
      a few more before the end of the year.  :)
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314537#314537
      
      
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      It's true, it's true!
      
      Ryan
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Oct 3, 2010, at 2:37 PM, "gboothe5@comcast.net" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      wrote:
      
       Thanks! 20 more minutes today...still no crank failure! I'm not
      lying...Ryan M's my witness.
      
      Gary
      
      Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
      ------------------------------
      *From: * "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      *Date: *Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:30:19 -0400
      *To: *<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      *Subject: *RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
       My first car was actually a 1966 = 110hp Corvair.  Fun to drive, but ver
      y
      poor quality.  Not a terribly = reliable engine, either.
      
      
      I hear some people are actually = putting those things in aeroplanes thes
      e
      days.
      
      
      Best of luck, Gary
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      
      Raleigh, = NC
      
      
       ------------------------------
      
      *From:* = owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com = [mailto:
      owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] = *On Behalf Of *Jack
      *Sent:* Sunday, October 03, = 2010 4:12 PM
      *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      *Subject:* Re: Re: = Pietenpol-List: Corvair Roars to Life
      
      
      That was my = first car also
      
      Jack Textor
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      
      On Oct 3, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Rick Holland
      <at7000ft@gmail.com<3D"mailto:at7000ft@gmail.com">>
      = wrote:
      
       Congratulations Gary, don't = you love the sound of those straight pipes
      ? I
      have attended 3 Corvairs Colleges. They definitely broke the mold when they
      made WW.
      
      The gear-heads in the neighborhood come a running when I start mine in = 
      my
      driveway. Kind of reminds me of the time I installed exhaust cut-outs in 
      
      my first car, a 53 Ford flathead 8.
      
      rick
      
      On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Gary Boothe <<3D"mailto:gboothe5@comcast.ne
      t">
      gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      All,
      
      
      I have had this engine closed up for 6 years, but it came to life today at
      CC#18, approximately 10pm!! Much more to the story, and pictures and videos
      to = follow, but I cannot express enough appreciation to the hard work an
      d
      dedication yesterday and today by William Wynne, Ryan = Mueller and Mike
      Studer!!!
      
      
      Thanks to all of you for your help! BTW=85those straight pipes are sooo 
      cool!
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (20 ribs down=85)
      
      
      * *
      
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      * *
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" 
      
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      John,
      
      This is a great loss for you my friend,  I can't imagine how you feel loos
      ing both your parents. I am very sorry.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: amsafetyc@aol.com <amsafetyc@aol.com>
      Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 9:19 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: More sad news 
      
      
      As some of you may know 7 months ago my mom passed away while i was travel
      ing. This past thursday while i was again traveling and was able to get to
       my dad to say goodbye as he drew his last breath on october 1 and now joi
      ns my mom. 
      
      2010 is and has been an awful year for us hope you all understand and forg
      ive my sharp comments at times as we try to work through this difficult pe
      riod. 
      
      Thanks for understanding thoughts and prayers in advance
      
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      
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      John my heart goes out to you. I lost my dad in 1986 and my  mother in 1996. All
      I can tell you is it will become easier with the passage of time. I don't think
      the pain ever goes away completely. You and your family are in my prayers.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      wing, tailfeathers done
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314543#314543
      
      
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      My condolence John. Steve Singleton
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: amsafetyc@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:19 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: More sad news 
      
      
        As some of you may know 7 months ago my mom passed away while i was 
      traveling. This past thursday while i was again traveling and was able 
      to get to my dad to say goodbye as he drew his last breath on october 1 
      and now joins my mom. 
      
        2010 is and has been an awful year for us hope you all understand and 
      forgive my sharp comments at times as we try to work through this 
      difficult period. 
      
        Thanks for understanding thoughts and prayers in advance
      
      
        John
      
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| Subject:  | Re: " Golden Eagles Flights" | 
      
      
      Very nice, Ben.
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314555#314555
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: polyurethane Gorilla Glue | 
      
      like all ways oscar you all right I dont used for structural members or par
      t only for makeup or smal parts not inportant im used all ways t-88 glue se
      you nex. jorge from hanford
      
      --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: polyurethane Gorilla Glue
      
      
      
      
      My two cents on Gorilla Glue.- Yes, it foams
      and expands as it cures.- Yes, it is inferior
      to other good glues and epoxies in every test
      I've read about.- Yes, it is inexpensive and
      readily available.- Yes, it will harden up into
      a useless rock in its container over time (not
      as long as you'd think), so use it or lose it.
      
      My only experiences with actual applications of
      it were not good; both failed.- On my airplane,
      I used it in a non-structural and inconspicuous
      location to reattach some thin plywood to two
      wood framing members.- The glue joints failed
      when an inexperienced passenger's shoe pushed
      on the backside of the plywood.- In the other
      application, one wooden handle of my hedge trimmer
      came loose from the steel handle.- I pulled
      off the handle, gooped plenty of Gorilla Glue
      down the hole after moistening (water is the
      activator), jammed the steel tang back in, and
      let it cure.- The joint held for a few months
      but eventually the glue crumbled and failed.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
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| Subject:  | Re: Ribs/Varnish | 
      
      
      Pete, I went through a couple of design modifications on my TE.  My first attempt
      was a tongue and groove approach, which didn't work out as planned, so I resorted
      to a simple butt joint with top and bottom gussets.
      
      I'm not exactly sure what is "typical"... it just made sense to do some final prep
      all the ribs in a batch prior to installing on the spars.  I figured this
      approach would ensure consistent LE and TE alignment.
      
      
      peterk48 wrote:
      > 
      > K5YAC wrote:
      > > I masked off the areas I intended to glue (LE, TE, etc.) and applied spar varnish
      to each rib. Not sure that it was necessary, or if I would do it that way
      again, but it definitely is easier to get to those little nooks when you can
      hold the ribs in your hands.
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks Mark.  In looking at your Kitlog I also seemed to notice that you didn't
      cut out the TE notch until you did the wing.  Is that typical?  It would make
      sense.
      > 
      > Pete
      
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314561#314561
      
      
 
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