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1. 07:39 AM - Re: Offset on vertical stab (taildrags)
2. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Offset on vertical stab (Ryan Mueller)
3. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage - Long vs Standard (Jim Boyer)
4. 08:27 AM - Motivating cross country trip (chase143(at)aol.com)
5. 10:08 AM - Re: Motivating cross country trip (Kenneth Howe)
6. 10:26 AM - Re: Motivating cross country trip (mike Hardaway)
7. 01:32 PM - Two Air Camper projects for sale. (gabenner)
8. 01:46 PM - Re: Motivating cross country trip (shad bell)
9. 01:55 PM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (gboothe5@comcast.net)
10. 02:37 PM - Re: Motivating cross country trip (shad bell)
11. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Offset on vertical stab (Dan Yocum)
12. 05:14 PM - Piets and Gladiator movies (Darrel Jones)
13. 05:58 PM - Re: Offset on vertical stab (coxwelljon)
14. 06:22 PM - Fw: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
15. 07:27 PM - Re: Piets and Gladiator movies (Gary Boothe)
16. 07:29 PM - Re: Fw: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off (Gary Boothe)
17. 07:37 PM - Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (Jack Phillips)
18. 08:20 PM - Model "A" update (Lawrence Williams)
19. 11:43 PM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (bubbleboy)
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Subject: | Re: Offset on vertical stab |
Dan; the spacers go between the rubber donuts on the engine mount points and the
flats on the engine mount, same as washers. As mentioned in another post in
this thread, aluminum should we acceptable there... 6061-T6 has a Brinnell hardness
of 95; normalized 4130 steel has a BHN of 92.
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Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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Subject: | Re: Offset on vertical stab |
You say that now...we'll see what kind of modern art masterpieces that
hot-rod A-75 turns those spacers in to come next annual... ;)
Ryan
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On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:36 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Dan; the spacers go between the rubber donuts on the engine mount points
> and the flats on the engine mount, same as washers. As mentioned in another
> post in this thread, aluminum should we acceptable there... 6061-T6 has a
> Brinnell hardness of 95; normalized 4130 steel has a BHN of 92.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> Air Camper NX41CC
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Subject: | Re: Fuselage - Long vs Standard |
Hi Chris,
Thanks I was wondering about that. I did a similiar thing in that I used springy
pieces of wood wedged between fuselage sides and down from the top longeron
to hold those fittings in place for pilot drilling. Thats one of the things that
is neat about a Piet; how people do some of the tricky parts of building one.
Jim B.
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From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 7:33:33 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage - Long vs Standard
Jim
The picture was taken when the fuselage was upside down (inverted) while I
built the landing gear. In the picture you are actually looking up into the
fuselage. I wedged the stick between the garage floor and the fitting to
hold the fitting in place while I drilled holes from the other side. It was
a rather simple solution to a tricky problem of clamping the fitting where
there is no place to clamp.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage - Long vs Standard
Chris,
What is that vertical piece of wood doing? Do you have your wing/center
section temporarily mounted?
Thanks,
Jim
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Subject: | Motivating cross country trip |
I apologize if you have already seen these. But this has to be one of the most
motivating cross country picture stories I have seen, and includes some great
Brodhead pictures.
Thanks again to Doug Reeves for capturing this great trip.
Steve
http://www.vintageflying.com/page24.html
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Steve
www.mypiet.com
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Subject: | Re: Motivating cross country trip |
Now I just 'wasted' a bunch of my work day going through that site. WOW!
Ken
On Oct 7, 2010, at 8:25 AM, chase143(at)aol.com wrote:
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> I apologize if you have already seen these. But this has to be one of
the most motivating cross country picture stories I have seen, and
includes some great Brodhead pictures.
> Thanks again to Doug Reeves for capturing this great trip.
> Steve
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Subject: | Re: Motivating cross country trip |
Those photos have caused me a lot of work (and joy); my crippled 85 year old
mother, after seeing those images, has decided she wants to fly again, after
not flying in anything without flight attendants for over forty years.
Mike Hardaway
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Howe <ken@cooper-mtn.com> wrote:
> Now I just 'wasted' a bunch of my work day going through that site. WOW!
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> I apologize if you have already seen these. But this has to be one of the
> most motivating cross country picture stories I have seen, and includes some
> great Brodhead pictures.
> Thanks again to Doug Reeves for capturing this great trip.
> Steve
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> http://www.vintageflying.com/page24.html
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> Steve
> www.mypiet.com
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Subject: | Two Air Camper projects for sale. |
Hey Folks,
My name is Gary and I live in Spokane Washington. I've been watching the board
for about a year and a half and have just recently built my first rib. I'm looking
forward to building my Piet as time and money allows. So I wasn't going to
introduce myself yet until I was a little closer to actually building the bird
but today someone listed two Air camper projects on craigslist and I thought
you guy's should know about them.
I love reading your guy's posts and comment's. Some of you really crack me up.
Look up Craigslist Spokane and if I can help in anyway let me know.
Have a good day Gentlemen.
Semper Fi
Gary Benner
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Subject: | Re: Motivating cross country trip |
That is one Awesome album!- I recognize at least a dozen of those places
from flying the piet around the Midwest.- Now I just gotta get my little
biplane done so dad and I can both go flying.- The cool part is he said i
t was 400 some gal of fuel, not much more expensive than a round trip coast
to coast and back flight on an American Airlines flight.-
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Shad=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. |
Gary,
Good to meet you! I like meeting someone who's name I can remember.
The List needs to know:
1) Have you watched TGWP?
2) Do you like to watch gladiator movies?
Gary Boothe
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Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Two Air Camper projects for sale.
Sent: Oct 7, 2010 1:29 PM
Hey Folks,
My name is Gary and I live in Spokane Washington. I've been watching the board
for about a year and a half and have just recently built my first rib. I'm looking
forward to building my Piet as time and money allows. So I wasn't going to
introduce myself yet until I was a little closer to actually building the bird
but today someone listed two Air camper projects on craigslist and I thought
you guy's should know about them.
I love reading your guy's posts and comment's. Some of you really crack me up.
Look up Craigslist Spokane and if I can help in anyway let me know.
Have a good day Gentlemen.
Semper Fi
Gary Benner
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Subject: | Re: Motivating cross country trip |
That is one Awesome album!- I recognize at least a dozen of those places
from flying the piet around the Midwest.- Now I just gotta get my little
biplane done so dad and I can both go flying.- The cool part is he said i
t was 400 some gal of fuel, not much more expensive than a round trip coast
to coast and back flight on an American Airlines flight.-
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Shad=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Offset on vertical stab |
Ah, so there's a soft surface in there - it's not hard-on-hard-on-hard, which I
can just imagine would beat the heck out of the aluminum. Engineering by intuition
is no way to go through life, I guess.
Thanks for the edjamacation,
Dan
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Oct 7, 2010, at 9:36 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Dan; the spacers go between the rubber donuts on the engine mount points and
the flats on the engine mount, same as washers. As mentioned in another post
in this thread, aluminum should we acceptable there... 6061-T6 has a Brinnell
hardness of 95; normalized 4130 steel has a BHN of 92.
>
>
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Subject: | Piets and Gladiator movies |
Gary,
Are you suggesting that anyone building an airplane and/or flying an
airplane needs to watch the movie Airplane? For tips on in-flight meals?
Autopilots?
Inquiring minds...
Darrel
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Subject: | Re: Offset on vertical stab |
Dave,
I had our local DAR look at my project a couple of weeks ago for an interim inspection
and we talked about the vert. stab. offset. He told me, rule of thumb
for Cubs, Aeronacas, and of course Piets was this. If you sight along the vert.
stab. your sight line should be to a point 1/2 way between the center line
of the fuselage and the outer edge of the firewall. Left or right depends on
you engine. He did mention you can build something into the engine mount as
well but my recollection was. that this works without an engine offset.
I believe he knows what he is talking about as he does high end restoration work
on older Pipers and has won several awards at Oshkosh in recent years.
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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Subject: | Fw: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off |
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A fully loaded Russian IL-76 cargo plane...... payload-1 million pounds!!
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This really raises the-pucker-factor....-
Listen to the "controllers" in the tower who are Australian: Ya gotta love
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"The Vodka Burner" as the Aussies call it, literally uses every inch of run
way.......
WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO.. (shot from the tower)-
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Subject: | Piets and Gladiator movies |
Well.....yeah!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrel Jones
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets and Gladiator movies
Gary,
Are you suggesting that anyone building an airplane and/or flying an
airplane needs to watch the movie Airplane? For tips on in-flight meals?
Autopilots?
Inquiring minds...
Darrel
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Subject: | Fw: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take |
off
Cool.thanks!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(20 ribs down.)
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CPO/FAAOP
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to
take off
OPEN THE WEB SITE AT THE END OF THIS EMAIL AND WATCH THIS TAKEOFF!
A fully loaded Russian IL-76 cargo plane...... payload 1 million pounds!!!!
This really raises the pucker factor....
Listen to the "controllers" in the tower who are Australian: Ya gotta love
it.
"The Vodka Burner" as the Aussies call it, literally uses every inch of
runway.......
WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO.. (shot from the tower)
http
<http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-2-9-Il76-in-Australia
.wmv>
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Subject: | Gene Rambo's Pietenpol |
This week I've been helping Gene Rambo prepare to cover his Pietenpol
project. Today we got the lift struts finished and got the airplane all
assembled for the first time. Anyone who has been to this stage on their
Pietenpol project knows that this is a magic moment.
Gene has done a fantastic job on his Model A powered airplane, building it
just the way Bernard built his first one, with aileron cables external to
the wing, wire-wrapped and soldered cables, and period hardware (I think I
even saw some #7 wood screws holding the stabilizer in place), no brakes,
smooth tires on the wire wheels (not the wheels in the photos), and a
tailskid. The workmanship is impeccable. I've attached a couple of
pictures.
I'm looking forward to seeing this one at Brodhead next year.
Jack Phillips
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Subject: | Model "A" update |
Well......the "A" is almost back together and it's going to be better than ever.
I have a few tricks up my sleeve thanks to this website that are going to make
my engine the envy of the community!!
First of all, I put dimple tape on the piston rods and the outer edges of the
crankshaft counterweights. I hope to get a couple of hundred more RPM from that
move alone.
Next, I carved a new prop with the mighty Riblett GA 3OU 613.5 airfoil!! If the
buzz is to be believed, I should get even more RPM, more thrust, decreased
P-factor, better fuel economy,(ie more range), faster climb and instant starts
by just pointing the nose into a gentle breeze. The big boo-boo with the prop is
that I laminated it with Gorilla glue which I now learn is merely a marketing
ploy that only creats a foamy residue and does absolutely nothing to bond wood
together. Oh, well. Live and learn.
You guys keep those reviews coming in and I'll keep incorporating them into the
ol' Cherry Grove Missle. One of these days maybe I'll get around to putting all
of this knowledge into a DVD set.
Larry W.
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Subject: | Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol |
Aaaahhh...there's no aphrodisiac like a naked Pietenpol.....im done! ;o)
Back to the garage for elevator building!
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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