---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/08/10: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:34 AM - Re: Model "A" update (Bill Church) 2. 05:43 AM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (K5YAC) 3. 05:47 AM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (chase143(at)aol.com) 4. 06:44 AM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (Gary Wilson) 5. 07:08 AM - Newest Flying Piet (TOM STINEMETZE) 6. 07:26 AM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (Michael Perez) 7. 08:15 AM - Unsubscribing (Lagowski Morrow) 8. 08:36 AM - Re: Unsubscribing (Gerry Holland) 9. 09:07 AM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (BYD) 10. 09:43 AM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (Bill Church) 11. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (helspersew@aol.com) 12. 11:25 AM - Re: Newest Flying Piet (AircamperN11MS) 13. 11:40 AM - Re: Newest Flying Piet (TOM STINEMETZE) 14. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: Newest Flying Piet (Gary Boothe) 15. 11:42 AM - Re: Re: Newest Flying Piet (Ryan Mueller) 16. 11:45 AM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (AircamperN11MS) 17. 11:53 AM - Re: Newest Flying Piet (AircamperN11MS) 18. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Newest Flying Piet (Gary Boothe) 19. 12:16 PM - Re: Newest Flying Piet (AircamperN11MS) 20. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: Newest Flying Piet (Gary Boothe) 21. 12:38 PM - Re: Newest Flying Piet (AircamperN11MS) 22. 01:04 PM - Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Wildman) 23. 01:31 PM - Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (Bill Church) 24. 01:42 PM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (BYD) 25. 02:28 PM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (gabenner) 26. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (Gary Boothe) 27. 02:42 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Jeff Boatright) 28. 03:01 PM - Re: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (Rick Holland) 29. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (Ryan Mueller) 30. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (Gene Rambo) 31. 06:58 PM - Re: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off (coxwelljon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model "A" update From: "Bill Church" "Post of the week award" goes to Larry. Absolutely hilarious. BC do not archive this either Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315092#315092 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol From: "K5YAC" That looks great! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315093#315093 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol From: "chase143(at)aol.com" Super job Gene. Quite a difference from last time I saw it on saw horses! Steve -------- Steve www.mypiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315094#315094 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:55 AM PST US From: Gary Wilson Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol I was just thinking the same thing.- Gene, you plane is beautiful.- It is a =0Ashame we have to actually cover them to get-them to fly!=0A=0AGar y=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: b ubbleboy =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0AS ent: Fri, October 8, 2010 1:39:25 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Ra tt.dawson3@bigpond.com>=0A=0AAaaahhh...there's no aphrodisiac like a naked Pietenpol.....im done! ;o)=0A=0ABack to the garage for elevator building! =0A=0AScotty=0A=0A--------=0AScotty=0A=0ATamworth, Australia=0ABuilding a C orvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper=0A=0Awww.scottyspietenpol.com=0A=0A=0A =0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtop - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List ========0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:27 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newest Flying Piet For those of you who don't think you will ever get your Piet done - here's one that only took three months start to finish. Be sure to watch the First Flight video link at the bottom. http://members.cox.net/tstinemetze/ Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. N328X ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:10 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol Awesome! Looks great Gene. I can only imagine, at this point, what that must feel like to have it "assembled" and ready for cover. Can't wait for my time to come and be in your shoes! Keep us posted Gene/Jack...I am very interested in the covering process and initial flight testing. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:59 AM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Unsubscribing HELP-I will be out of touch for a while and need to stop these e-mails , but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do it. Have tried what I can find with no success. Help!--Jim Lagowski ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Unsubscribing From: Gerry Holland Go to the following link and follow instructions to unsubscribe. > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: "BYD" Gary, welcome to the list and a word of caution - if the project(s) you're talking about are the ones in Harrington, WA, be careful....the horizontal stabilizer is definitely not fabricated from the Pietenpol plans. A careful inspection of the other components would be wise. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315107#315107 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: "Bill Church" Actually, after looking at the craigslist photo, it looks like the horizontal stabilizer likely IS fabricated from the Pietenpol plans ... That is, the version of the plans published in the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual. (See attached image). However, the suggestion to do a careful inspection is definitely a good idea, prior to purchasing anyone's project. Bill C. PS I still can't understand how anybody can actually manage to build a complete plane using only the EAA reprints of that magazine. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315108#315108 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1932fgm_163.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol From: helspersew@aol.com Gene, Superb work. Can't wait to see it at Brodhead next year. The way I am goin g, you might be the only black and yellow German that shows up! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:53 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet From: "AircamperN11MS" That should win at OSH. What plans did you use and is there a link to them. I have my first Grandson on an IFR flight plan and should be arriving around January 26, 2011. I think he should be ready to solo shortly after that and he'll need his own Piet for that. He'll be too short to reach the rudder pedals in mine. Thanks, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315114#315114 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:40:58 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet >>>That should win at OSH. What plans did you use and is there a link to them. I have my first Grandson on an IFR flight plan and should be arriving around January 26, 2011. I think he should be ready to solo shortly after that and he'll need his own Piet for that. He'll be too short to reach the rudder pedals in mine. Thanks, -------- Scott Liefeld Scott: I purchased my plans and some of the materials from Aviation Products, Inc. which can be researched at the following link: http://www.pedalplanek its.com/index.html By the time it was completed I believe I had just a little over $300 in it plus a very reasonable (and enjoyable) amount of build time. They have a lot of models available besides the Pietenpol but why would you want to look at anything else? Tom Stinemetze N328X ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:12 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet Scott, How do you do that? Spray water on him while he's 'flying' around? Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet That should win at OSH. What plans did you use and is there a link to them. I have my first Grandson on an IFR flight plan and should be arriving around January 26, 2011. I think he should be ready to solo shortly after that and he'll need his own Piet for that. He'll be too short to reach the rudder pedals in mine. Thanks, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315114#315114 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet From: Ryan Mueller Where's Broadhead? do not archive On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:23 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > * Broadhead* in 1996 > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol From: "AircamperN11MS" Very nice Gene, I actually mis the building part. I too have wire wheels and no brakes. I have learned that if you keep the tire pressure low (mine look half flat all the time) it will make the plane very pleasurable to land and taxi. I fly and taxi mine in 25 & 30 knot winds all the time in the California desert. After 30 knots I need wing walkers. With hard tires I can't stop it from rolling even in calm air. Just my two cents. It's all fun. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315120#315120 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet From: "AircamperN11MS" Thanks for the plans info. Gary, I thought you knew. The dang kid is contained in a big sack of liquid. He should break out into VFR conditions on short final. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315125#315125 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:38 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet Ha! I get it...That's why "Low & Slow" has special meaning for me. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet Thanks for the plans info. Gary, I thought you knew. The dang kid is contained in a big sack of liquid. He should break out into VFR conditions on short final. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315125#315125 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet From: "AircamperN11MS" Gary, Do you know if there is going to be another Frazeur Lake event. I enjoyed it. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315129#315129 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:28:23 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet Absolutely!! If you don't make it we'll come and get you! Charlie Miller is hopeful that we will make that the default location for West Coast Piet gatherings. Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet Gary, Do you know if there is going to be another Frazeur Lake event. I enjoyed it. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315129#315129 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newest Flying Piet From: "AircamperN11MS" Perhaps I shall give rides to those who ask this year. You all were new faces to me last time and I needed to meet you. Now that's over with, the fun shall begin. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Broadhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315132#315132 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aerial almost done From: "Wildman" Well after a long hard year I am almost done with my Piet. Aerial. 0290 Lycoming engine, If anyone remembers about a year ago I bought this Aerial and as I was bringing it home a strap broke and it blew off the trailer and destroyed the fuselage. I decided to rebuild with chrome moly tubing. The plane is now 73 pounds lighter than it was and alot stronger. It is all together except for some trim around the center section and wings, and around the tail. The engine runs great. I have a friend doing the interior now. As soon as he is done I will call the DAR to inspect it. Here are some pictures. Sorry about the pictures, I will have some better ones soon. Wade -------- Pietenpol Aerial Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315136#315136 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/mvc_004f_198.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/mvc_005f_432.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/mvc_007f_183.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/mvc_006f_209.jpg ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol From: "Bill Church" That shore looks purdy. Really nice work, Gene. Bill C. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315139#315139 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: "BYD" Ah, good catch! I had forgotten about those and stand corrected. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315143#315143 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: "gabenner" Thank you but I can't buy someone else's project. I just remember seeing someone on here that was looking for a project. I have to build my own. I would like to be able to hand down an Airplane to my grandkids, They love airplanes almost as much as I do so I hope to build my piet in the next 6 to 8 years and be able to teach them to fly and be able to hand down a beautiful aircraft. As for the movies...Yes on Waldo but I'm not a big gladiator fan. I'm more of the John Wayne war movie kind of a guy although I love the movie Finding Flight. You members on this list all do incredible work. Unbelievable the hours I have spent looking at all your guy's pictures. Semper Fi Gary Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315151#315151 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:16 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. Semper Fi? You might be my hero for the day! Thank you! I agree about the John Wayne movies, but there's a lot to learn from the movie "Airplane!" Like: How a large passenger jet sounds flying through inclement weather... How to determine that you are flying thru inclement weather by observing certain anatomical parts of other passengers... How to deal with unruly passengers... How runway lights are wired... How to correctly dispose of cigarettes... Etc, etc, etc... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gabenner Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. Thank you but I can't buy someone else's project. I just remember seeing someone on here that was looking for a project. I have to build my own. I would like to be able to hand down an Airplane to my grandkids, They love airplanes almost as much as I do so I hope to build my piet in the next 6 to 8 years and be able to teach them to fly and be able to hand down a beautiful aircraft. As for the movies...Yes on Waldo but I'm not a big gladiator fan. I'm more of the John Wayne war movie kind of a guy although I love the movie Finding Flight. You members on this list all do incredible work. Unbelievable the hours I have spent looking at all your guy's pictures. Semper Fi Gary Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315151#315151 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:12 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aerial almost done Wade, That looks GREAT! Congratulations and good luck with the DAR. Jeff -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:01:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: Rick Holland And "I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" do not archive > How a large passenger jet sounds flying through inclement weather... > How to determine that you are flying thru inclement weather by observing > certain anatomical parts of other passengers... > How to deal with unruly passengers... > How runway lights are wired... > How to correctly dispose of cigarettes... > Etc, etc, etc... > > Gary Boothe > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: Ryan Mueller How to tell when Leon is getting la-a-a-a-a-arger... How to visually ID Lew Alcindor... How to make a hat, a brooch, or a pterodactyl... How to talk jive... How to dance... And the list goes on and on... do not archive On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > And "I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" > > do not archive > > >> How a large passenger jet sounds flying through inclement weather... >> How to determine that you are flying thru inclement weather by observing >> certain anatomical parts of other passengers... >> How to deal with unruly passengers... >> How runway lights are wired... >> How to correctly dispose of cigarettes... >> Etc, etc, etc... >> >> Gary Boothe >> >> >> > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:16 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene Rambo's Pietenpol Hi All!! Jack left today=2C the model of patience. He thought he was coming up here to cover a Pietenpol=2C but instead we spent the week finalizing a million things that I never got to. The biggest job was building the struts. Usi ng Cub rear struts=2C we tried a few times to flatten the ends to my satisf action. Then a trip to a machine shop to purchase thick 3 ince angle iron which Jack cut and bent to make a pair of dies (die?)=2C then modify them t o screw to the vise and we had the perfect tool=2C after only a half day of messing around with it! As you saw in the photos Jack posted yesterday=2C we got it assembled and r igged and rolled outside. Today we removed the wing (one-piece wing=2C no small job!) and prepped it for cover=2C medical tape on edges=2C inter-rib bracing tape=2C etc. We just did get the fabric glued to the top of the wi ng before we had to shut down for the day=2C or until next week for me. I am using the Stewart system glue on the lightweight Ceconite=2C and I am pu tting dope on it. So far=2C the Stewart glue seems to be working like a ch arm. I have to run now=2C I'll post a couple of photos later. I cannot thank Ja ck enough. Gene ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Those Ruskies !! 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