Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/10/10


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:44 AM - Re: Re: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off (Dan Yocum)
     2. 08:02 AM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (Dan P)
     3. 08:20 AM - Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 08:35 AM - doing a little flying (Oscar Zuniga)
     5. 09:03 AM - Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done (peterk48)
     6. 11:40 AM - Re:mags and harnesses (Harvey Rule)
     7. 11:47 AM - Re: Re:mags and harnesses (Harvey Rule)
     8. 03:49 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Wildman)
     9. 05:25 PM - Fuel Fittings (Jack)
    10. 06:02 PM - Dan's experience (Douwe Blumberg)
    11. 06:38 PM - Re: Fuel Fittings (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
    12. 07:08 PM - Re: My Plan is Working (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
    13. 07:25 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Dan P)
    14. 07:55 PM - Re: My Plan is Working (Gary Boothe)
    15. 07:58 PM - Re: Fuel Fittings (Gary Boothe)
    16. 08:49 PM - Re: Thanks to WW (Mark Roberts)
    17. 10:00 PM - Boeing surplus (Jim Ash)
    18. 10:15 PM - Slower than a Piet (Baldeagle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:44:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take
    off
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Vladimir Putin was touring a factory to view the great Russian productivity. He stopped and asked one line worker, "Comarade, could you come to work after having a glass of vodka and still produce the same great quality product you do, today?" The worker replied, "Da, Mr. Putin, this would be no problem for Visily!" "And, Visily, how about 2 glasses? Could you still come to work after 2 glasses of vodka?" "Of course, I would have no problems!" Putin was amazed, because, as you know, a Russian glass of vodka was no less than 6oz. Putin decided to ask one more question, "Clearly, Visily, you have the stamina of a Russian bear. Could you come to work after 3 glasses of vodka??" "Mr. Putin, I am here, am I not?" Do not archive -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." On Oct 10, 2010, at 1:11 AM, Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> wrote: > > Indeed. The pilot left himself ZERO margin of error. Not something that I would want to try, or recommend to anybody else. >


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    Time: 08:02:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale.
    From: "Dan P" <dlplett@swko.net>
    Looks like these two Piets are listed on Barnstormers too. http://barnstormers.com/classified_479432_2+Pietenpol+projects+.html -------- Dan Plett N28WH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315261#315261


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    Time: 08:20:11 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Pietenpol Aerial almost done
    That IS a very nice Aerial! It will be interesting to hear how it flies. I've really never heard how they fly and there aren't many of them out there. Now cover your ears if you don't want to hear this, but to my knowledge none of the Pietenpol family ever had any connection to Chad Wille's Aerial design and no one named Pietenpol has ever registered one, so there is no such thing as a "Pietenpol Aerial". This one may be the first, if it is registered that way. As I understand the regulations, one may register an experimental amateur-built aircraft with any name that one chooses. Thus, there could be a Rutan Air Camper, a Pietenpol White Knight, or even such a hermaphrodite as an F-100 Van's Rans Zenith Aircamper ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 08:35:01 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: doing a little flying
    The flying has been very pleasant the last few weeks around here since it's starting to turn into autumn. A bit cooler and drier and we get to use the other half of our runway (the Rwy 35 side). Final approach to 35 is over some trees, so we get to practice our drop-ins and slips more. Not to mention more crosswind practice. It's been that way lately. Yesterday was a very nice day here in S. Texas and next Saturday there is an open house and fly-in to Cannon Field, which is home to a group of Liaison and Observation pilots and airplanes. So I decided to just mosey on over and see how the preparations were coming along. The Piet flew great, we made a nice wheel landing at Castroville to top off the fuel, then hopped over to Cannon, which is about 15-20 minutes' flight. Grass strip that has quite a bit of roll and rise (which adds to the challenge), but a great bunch of folks and it should be a lot of fun next weekend. Needless to say, the airplane drew a crowd, nobody knew what it was, and everybody thought it was the niftiest airplane they had ever seen. These airplanes are real crowd-pleasers. Flying back to San Geronimo I spotted what looked like a miniature airport with an X'd-out runway. Power off and spiral down and next thing I know there is a large scale RC biplane zooming up toward me. I circled the "field", the RC went back down in a loop, then turned on smoke and started back up towards me. Boy did I wish my smoke system was installed and functional, and I could have really surprised him a long stream of smoke in reply! do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 09:03:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done
    From: "peterk48" <peterk48@msn.com>
    taildrags wrote: > That IS a very nice Aerial! It will be interesting > to hear how it flies. I've really never heard how > they fly and there aren't many of them out there. > > Now cover your ears if you don't want to hear this, > but to my knowledge none of the Pietenpol family ever > had any connection to Chad Wille's Aerial design and > no one named Pietenpol has ever registered one, so > there is no such thing as a "Pietenpol Aerial". This > one may be the first, if it is registered that way. > > As I understand the regulations, one may register an > experimental amateur-built aircraft with any name that one > chooses. Thus, there could be a Rutan Air Camper, a > Pietenpol White Knight, or even such a hermaphrodite > as an F-100 Van's Rans Zenith Aircamper ;o) > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net In light of your comments, its interesting that this one is registered as serial #1404. -------- Pete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315264#315264


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    Time: 11:40:18 AM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: RE:mags and harnesses
    Thanks very much to Oscar Zuniga for hooking me up with Scott who has sold me his mags and harnesses which I am hoping will work in my situation.I rea lly appreciate the work you did there.People like Oscar and Scott are what makes this web page what it is=2Cnothing short of fantastic! > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 11:47:22 AM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: RE:mags and harnesses
    Sorry that should have read Jeff Scott. do not archive From: harvey.rule@bell.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE:mags and harnesses Thanks very much to Oscar Zuniga for hooking me up with Scott who has sold me his mags and harnesses which I am hoping will work in my situation.I rea lly appreciate the work you did there.People like Oscar and Scott are what makes this web page what it is=2Cnothing short of fantastic! &nb=============== > > >


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    Time: 03:49:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done
    From: "Wildman" <scrambler13@hotmail.com>
    I wasn't aware that there were no more listed as pietenpol Aerial. I know the fuselage is built from the original Pietenpol plans, I built it. I think is is a St. Croix conversion. I did how ever register it as a Pietenpol Aerial so maybe it is one of a kind in that repect.. If it is not truly a Pietenpol I hope you all won't mind if I continue to visit and post on this forum. I think it is an incredible source of information and everyone here has been so nice to help me. Wade -------- Pietenpol Aerial Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315285#315285


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    Time: 05:25:08 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Fuel Fittings
    Had some fun turning flanges and fabricating other tank parts this weekend. Figured out a way using a 3/8 pipe fitting to use as an index to drill the flanges. Still have a way to go on the float gauge. It's been tough working on the gal with such nice weather, severe clear and 75 to 80 the last two weeks! Wish I could have been flying. Jack DSM


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    Time: 06:02:11 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Dan's experience
    Hey Dan, As I'm learning, and Jack has shared many times, these kinds of setbacks are really a challenge to work through, but it's really a mental game. However, after they're worked through and a few weeks or months down the road, it'll just be a good story to tell someone while you're back enjoying your absolutely gorgeous plane!! I'm still hoping to be up and ready to fly again next spring. we'll see, things are going slowly. "Endeavor to Persevere" Douwe


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    Time: 06:38:41 PM PST US
    From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Fittings
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    Time: 07:08:44 PM PST US
    From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: My Plan is Working
    Great Photo... =C2- But unless I am mistaken, is the gusset for the top of the first spar glued to interfere with the spar as it moves through the rib? Thoughts that's wh at I was...but did not have my glasses on. KMH --- On Sat, 10/9/10, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: My Plan is Working Here=99s what you do: You go hang out at the local High School, and b efore they chase you away, you find a senior student who wants to do a seni or report on experimental aviation. Then you tell him how much fun it is to build wing ribs, and that you=99ll buy him Diet Cokes if he builds y ou some ribs. =C2- =9CThat=99s how it=99s done, Son!=9D =C2- Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion,=C2-Running! Tail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear (21 ribs down) =C2-=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:25:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done
    From: "Dan P" <dlplett@swko.net>
    Wade Oscar might want to cover his ears. [Wink] At Oshkosh Doc Mosher commented on the various design variations and changes to the Pietenpol. Doc compared Piets to snow flakes. We all recognize a snow flake when we see it. No two are alike but they are still snow flakes. It is easy to see the Pietenpol resemblance in your Aerial. Keep us updated on your progress. -------- Dan Plett N28WH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315304#315304


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    Time: 07:55:07 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: My Plan is Working
    Those all have gotten trimmed for the spar, as my plans showed. Thanks for the close look. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (21 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Plan is Working Great Photo... But unless I am mistaken, is the gusset for the top of the first spar glued to interfere with the spar as it moves through the rib? Thoughts that's what I was...but did not have my glasses on. KMH --- On Sat, 10/9/10, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: My Plan is Working Here's what you do: You go hang out at the local High School, and before they chase you away, you find a senior student who wants to do a senior report on experimental aviation. Then you tell him how much fun it is to build wing ribs, and that you'll buy him Diet Cokes if he builds you some ribs. "That's how it's done, Son!" Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (21 ribs down.)


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    Time: 07:58:17 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel Fittings
    Those are beautiful, Jack! Can't wait to see the rest of the plane.. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (21 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Fittings Had some fun turning flanges and fabricating other tank parts this weekend. Figured out a way using a 3/8 pipe fitting to use as an index to drill the flanges. Still have a way to go on the float gauge. It's been tough working on the gal with such nice weather, severe clear and 75 to 80 the last two weeks! Wish I could have been flying. Jack DSM <<...>> <<...>> <<...>>


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    Time: 08:49:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Thanks to WW
    From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    How FUN!! Congratulations Gary! Couldn't have happened to a nicer person! Mark On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net> wrote: > By geeeeeeeeze just put wings on that trailer and your ready to > go!!!Sounds real nice! > > > do not archive > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:24:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Thanks to WW > From: rmueller23@gmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > And here is a short vid of the run the following morning: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrY-3JYjg0 > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrY-3JYjg0>Gary likes to have something > blow away when he starts...sort of a visual confirmation of the power of the > Corvair. First the hat, then the starting fluid... ;) > > Ryan > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Below is the link to a short video that Ryan Mueller posted on YouTube > (Thanks, Ryan). > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DR5DpgrjrQ > > This is a short video, because the engine run was very short. We spent the > next 4 hours chasing down loose leads on the test stand, and cleaning out > my > carb from all the fine dust that the fuel hose had dumped. We fired it up > later (about 10pm) and it ran well, and also the following morning.<snip> > > * > > st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 10:00:12 PM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Boeing surplus
    Gents - I'm in Washington state and have some free time tomorrow. I've heard amazing things about Boeing surplus, but I'd also heard a year or two or three ago that they were closing. Does anybody know if they're still open and what kind of hours they keep? Jim Ash


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    Time: 10:15:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Slower than a Piet
    From: "Baldeagle" <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
    pre-Bernie, but thought you guys might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhsmiGFm_gI - Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315314#315314




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