---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/11/10: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:32 AM - Re: Dan's experience (kevinpurtee) 2. 12:36 AM - Re: doing a little flying (kevinpurtee) 3. 04:40 AM - Re: Fuel Fittings (helspersew@aol.com) 4. 05:12 AM - Re: Update on the "A" (helspersew@aol.com) 5. 05:27 AM - Re: Slower than a Piet (Gary Boothe) 6. 05:59 AM - Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Oscar Zuniga) 7. 06:30 AM - Re: Slower than a Piet (Pieti Lowell) 8. 06:42 AM - Re: Update on the "A" (Pieti Lowell) 9. 07:38 AM - Braggin' rights (TOM STINEMETZE) 10. 08:06 AM - Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done (dgaldrich) 11. 08:21 AM - Re: My Plan is Working (Jim Boyer) 12. 08:26 AM - Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (gabenner) 13. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. (Rick Holland) 14. 12:23 PM - Re: Boeing surplus (BYD) 15. 01:35 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done (Dan P) 16. 02:00 PM - Re: Re: Boeing surplus (Rick Holland) 17. 08:46 PM - Re: (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan's experience From: "kevinpurtee" Well said, Douwe. Jack, you, me, and now Dan (and many others, I'm sure) work through the drama and continue to fly the airplanes. My best to you, Dan. I have every faith we'll park the airplanes together at Brodhead again next year and fly unauthorized traffic patterns. Kevin -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315316#315316 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: doing a little flying From: "kevinpurtee" Nice report, Oscar. That's what we live for. I've only been in AZ 3 days and already miss my family and the plane very badly. Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315317#315317 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Fittings From: helspersew@aol.com Nice work Jack, and I am sure very satisfying!! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Sent: Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:22 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Fittings Had some fun turning flanges and fabricating other tank parts this weekend . Figured out a way using a 3/8 pipe fitting to use as an index to drill the flanges. Still have a way to go on the float gauge. It=99s be en tough working on the gal with such nice weather, severe clear and 75 to 80 the last two weeks! Wish I could have been flying. Jack DSM <<...>> <<...>> <<...>> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on the "A" From: helspersew@aol.com Gary, Of course you are correct. I spent a couple of hours out in the hangar dis mantling and removing stuff. Now I can pick it off with my winch as soon as I have time. I removed the head and looked at the cylinder walls. They are perfect, so I am encouraged that this process will not be so bad afte r all. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:38 am Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on the "A" Dan, Your discouragement is understandableyou got a little taste of jo ythen back to the hanger! But, are you kidding! After all that fa ntastic work? The fabric? The painting? The cockpit coping? The instrument panels? Carving your own prop? Your workmanship has set the bar WAY high ! An engine tear-down and rebuild is NOTHING compared to what you have acc omplished so far. If you had all the parts gathered up, all info in your hands, I=99ll bet you could do it in one weekendmaybe two at the worst. Just pick a couple days, tell your wife to slide the food under the hanger door, and you will back in the air in no time! Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running Tail done, Fuselage on gear 20 ribs done Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 4:50 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update on the "A" Well, I have started to tear down my engine. Things are going slow. I am so discouraged that I actually have to force myself to go out into the ha ngar. As I told you good people before, I removed my cam-gear-driven magne to and discovered the teeth either sheered or worn off. Here are a couple of preliminary photos peeking through the mag drive housing. I talked to Ken Perkins (the designer and seller of this mag drive) and he said it wa s because I did not have adequate clearance between the gears. I didn't ev en think of that when I put it together. It seemed to fit OK so I just tho ught all was OK......NOT! As you can see, only about half of the chord of the teeth are gone. The part that was left kept my cam turning so I could get home and not end up in a bean field. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ======================== =========== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:52 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Slower than a Piet Very cool...Thanks! Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Baldeagle Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:13 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slower than a Piet pre-Bernie, but thought you guys might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhsmiGFm_gI - Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315314#315314 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:52 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aerial almost done Dan wrote: >Oscar might want to cover his ears. [Wink] At Oshkosh Doc Mosher >commented on the various design variations and changes to >the Pietenpol. Doc compared Piets to snow flakes. We all >recognize a snowflake when we see it. No two are alike but >they are still snow flakes. It is easy to see the Pietenpol >resemblance in your Aerial. Keep us updated on your progress. Absolutely right! I think we all love this airplane and its various nuances and versions and it's why we're here. By all means, let's hear about the airplane, how it flies, how it was built, and especially let's see more pictures! Real curious to know how it responds in yaw with that big round Pitts-style tail, too. As for Dan, he won't mind if I call GN-1s "Grega Cubs" since it's easy to see the Cub resemblance in the wing struts and landing gear ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slower than a Piet From: "Pieti Lowell" Who said that older people don't make a difference. A very great demonstration of skill and talent, Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315328#315328 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Update on the "A" From: "Pieti Lowell" Dan You are dealing with a very tough engine, it can take a huge amount of abuse, high temperatures, low oil lubrication, etc. I ran a Ford A with a turbo once and when it turned close to 3000 I said WHY ? that will never stand up.All with a 76 X 42. After 2 years it was sold and still running. Keep your dedication Dan, You have a lot of Bernie Pietenpol IN YOU. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315330#315330 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:11 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Braggin' rights I promised you guys that I would not spend a lot of time bragging about my boys and I'll try to keep that promise. BUT, this is just too exciting to hold in. SpaceShipTwo made it's first free flight / landing yesterday at Mojave, CA and both my boys are up to their armpits in the project. If you are interested you may view an admittedly promotional video of the flight at http://www.virgingalactic.com/multimedia/. Go to the videos section and view the first one in the upper left corner. This is somewhat Pietenpol related in that they are the reason I got started on this project in the first place AND they are helping me with some of the metal parts for the brake system. They are also pretty good at shaming me into getting back out in the shop and getting something done. By the way, Axel, they did not land it in the pond. GO SCALED! Rah Rah Rah Stinemetze, N328X ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done From: "dgaldrich" Wade et al As far as I'm concerned, those folks who are not "pure Pietenpol" are certainly welcome. There are very few places like this on the internet and to discourage those with a love of airplanes from joining us would exclude us from their knowledge and innovations as well as limiting their access to our experiences with the construction techniques and materials we love. Dave Aldrich do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315335#315335 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:32 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Plan is Working Cruel and wicked thats what you are Gary; know any more students that would like assembling wings? Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2010 8:41:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: My Plan is Working Heres what you do: You go hang out at the local High School, and before they chase you away, you find a senior student who wants to do a senior report on experimental aviation. Then you tell him how much fun it is to build wing ribs, and that youll buy him Diet Cokes if he builds you some ribs. Thats how its done, Son! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion,Running! Tail done,Fuselageon gear (21 ribs down) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:22 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: "gabenner" Hi Rick, Yes I eat at Felts Field all the time. I'm a machine shop supplier who's store is just a mile away from the cafe, great place to take customers and vendors for lunch. It's also one of the most historic fields around. Gary Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315336#315336 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale. From: Rick Holland Yes, I read somewhere that Lindbergh stopped at Felts field with the Spirit of St. Louis in 27 when touring the country. do not archive On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:24 AM, gabenner wrote: > > > > Hi Rick, > > Yes I eat at Felts Field all the time. I'm a machine shop supplier who's > store is just a mile away from the cafe, great place to take customers and > vendors for lunch. It's also one of the most historic fields around. > > Gary > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315336#315336 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Boeing surplus From: "BYD" Unfortunately, Boeing surplus closed its brick and mortar facility in December 2007. Their current outlet can be viewed at: https://active.boeing.com/assocproducts/surplus/Index.cfm but it's more auction based and not near as useful for builders as the old store was. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315368#315368 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done From: "Dan P" taildrags wrote: > > > As for Dan, he won't mind if I call GN-1s "Grega Cubs" since it's > easy to see the Cub resemblance in the wing struts and landing > gear ;o) > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net Nope Dan doesn't mind. In your world you can call it what ever you want. -------- Dan Plett N28WH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315375#315375 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Boeing surplus From: Rick Holland Dang, so much for that Titanium sheet cowl and wheel pants I was planning for my Piet. do not archive On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, BYD wrote: > > Unfortunately, Boeing surplus closed its brick and mortar facility in > December 2007. Their current outlet can be viewed at: > https://active.boeing.com/assocproducts/surplus/Index.cfm but it's more > auction based and not near as useful for builders as the old store was. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315368#315368 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:09 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: When my mother died an old indian friend told me "My mother died 30 years ago and I still miss her. It gets better but I think of her every day." This has proven to be true for me. God Bless Steve Dortch On 10/04/10, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Sorry about your loss John! > > > > > > > > > > > > My dad died three weeks ago, it’s kind of surreal still, > > as they’ve been there in the background of your entire life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Douwe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.