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1. 08:33 AM - Re: Braggin' rights (Barry Davis)
2. 09:24 AM - Re: Braggin' rights (TOM STINEMETZE)
3. 09:39 AM - Re: Braggin' rights (airlion)
4. 01:30 PM - Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (Woodflier@aol.com)
5. 01:55 PM - Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (AlRice)
6. 02:50 PM - Re: Boeing surplus (BYD)
7. 03:03 PM - Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (BYD)
8. 03:22 PM - Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (AlRice)
9. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (Harvey Rule)
10. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (Ben Charvet)
11. 05:39 PM - Fuel sump question (Jack)
12. 06:20 PM - Re: Re: Two Air Camper projects, now Felts field (Skip Gadd)
13. 06:39 PM - Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? (Jack Phillips)
14. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Two Air Camper projects, now Felts field (Rick Holland)
15. 11:24 PM - Re: Boeing surplus (flea)
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There is nothing wrong about bragging on the kids. Sounds like they have the
job that all of us airplane nuts would kill to have. Unfortunately, we must
earn a living somehow and most of the time it doesn't include airplanes.
PS: My oldest son (2 grandkids) is a Monavie big-wig. My daughter is a
Georgia Tech engineer and is at General Dynamics Electric Boat (subs). And
youngest son plays guitar for a living all over the US.
See, I couldn't help it either!
Barry Davis
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Braggin' rights
I promised you guys that I would not spend a lot of time bragging about my
boys and I'll try to keep that promise. BUT, this is just too exciting to
hold in.
SpaceShipTwo made it's first free flight / landing yesterday at Mojave, CA
and both my boys are up to their armpits in the project. If you are
interested you may view an admittedly promotional video of the flight at
http://www.virgingalactic.com/multimedia/. Go to the videos section and
view the first one in the upper left corner.
This is somewhat Pietenpol related in that they are the reason I got started
on this project in the first place AND they are helping me with some of the
metal parts for the brake system. They are also pretty good at shaming me
into getting back out in the shop and getting something done. By the way,
Axel, they did not land it in the pond.
GO SCALED! Rah Rah Rah
Stinemetze,
N328X
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>>> "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> 10/12/2010 10:30 AM >>>
PS: My oldest son (2 grandkids) is a Monavie big-wig. My daughter is a
Georgia Tech engineer and is at General Dynamics Electric Boat (subs). And
youngest son plays guitar for a living all over the US.
See, I couldn't help it either!
Barry Davis
Barry:
Ain't that just the way? Us old far... uh.. gentlemen, have to live life
through our children.
Stinemetze
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Braggin' rights |
Barry, you have a lot to brag about. Congratulations,Gardiner
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From: Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 11:30:16 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Braggin' rights
There is nothing wrong about bragging on the kids. Sounds like they have the
job that all of us airplane nuts would kill to have. Unfortunately, we must
earn a living somehow and most of the time it doesn't include airplanes.
PS: My oldest son (2 grandkids) is a Monavie big-wig. My daughter is a Georgia
Tech engineer and is at General Dynamics Electric Boat (subs). And youngest son
plays guitar for a living all over the US.
See, I couldn't help it either!
Barry Davis
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Braggin' rights
I promised you guys that I would not spend a lot of time bragging about my boys
and I'll try to keep that promise. BUT, this is just too exciting to hold in.
SpaceShipTwo made it's first free flight / landing yesterday at Mojave, CA and
both my boys are up to their armpits in the project. If you are interested you
may view an admittedly promotional video of the flight at
http://www.virgingalactic.com/multimedia/. Go to the videos section and view
the first one in the upper left corner.
This is somewhat Pietenpol related in that they are the reason I got started on
this project in the first place AND they are helping me with some of the metal
parts for the brake system. They are also pretty good at shaming me into
getting back out in the shop and getting something done. By the way, Axel,
they did not land it in the pond.
GO SCALED! Rah Rah Rah
Stinemetze,
N328X
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| Subject: | Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
Ok, I bought the A/C Spruce oil pressure line kit, and after I get it and
start looking at the Nylo-Seal tubing, it says "max temp 212 degrees." I
went with the nylon because I thought it would withstand the vibration better
than copper. But the temp rating for the nylon worries me, as does
something I read recently in one of Tony Bengalis's articles on the EAA site that
you don't want flammable liquids running through tubing that can burn
through and feed an engine fire.
I feel kinda dumb with the Piet in the final stages but there's a way I can
run copper tubing or Aeroquip 303 rubber braided hose.
What would y'all do?
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
Definitely would not use nylo-seal or copper. Nylo-seal won't handle the heat
and copper will harden and crack with the vibration. Go with the Aeroquip from
the engine to the firewall.
--------
Al Rice
Skybolt 260
RV-9A
Helping with my grandson's Pietenpol Air Camper
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| Subject: | Re: Boeing surplus |
> [quote="at7000ft"]Dang, so much for that Titanium sheet cowl and wheel pants
I was planning for my Piet.
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> do not archive
You laugh, but I remember seeing Titanium sheet there along with composite honeycomb
panels and other exotic supplies.
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| Subject: | Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
My Stinson has had copper tubing primer lines since 1947 and I intend on running
the same for my oil pressure gauge on the Piet I'm finishing (the exterior tubing
on the Model-A is copper also) for the same reason Woodflier cited.
I know of a 1929 Travelaire biplane that has copper tubing for its fuel lines (and
has for years that I know of) but I don't know if they've ever been replaced
due to cracking or not.
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| Subject: | Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
I know that older planes used copper. I restored a 1931 Great Lakes biplane that
used 1/8" copper direct from the engine to the oil pressure gauge. There were
lots of practices from the "old days" that have been superseded by new accepted
practices, most due to failures.
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Al Rice
Skybolt 260
RV-9A
Helping with my grandson's Pietenpol Air Camper
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315486#315486
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| Subject: | Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
I have copper on mine for oil and gas primer.
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line?
> From: Allen@allenrice.net
> Date: Tue=2C 12 Oct 2010 15:19:45 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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>
> I know that older planes used copper. I restored a 1931 Great Lakes bipla
ne that used 1/8" copper direct from the engine to the oil pressure gauge.
There were lots of practices from the "old days" that have been superseded
by new accepted practices=2C most due to failures.
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> Al Rice
> Skybolt 260
> RV-9A
> Helping with my grandson's Pietenpol Air Camper
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315486#315486
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| Subject: | Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
I studied this a bit when I was at that stage. From what I remember,
the copper can work harden and get brittle, but that can be avoided by
annealing it every few years. I ended up using 1/8 inch aluminum sold
by ASS, and put a big loop on the end next to the engine. Also per Tony
Bingelis recommendations, I made a small orifice in the engine side
fitting, so if the oil line breaks, the leak won't be an immediate show
stopper.
Ben
On 10/12/2010 6:26 PM, Harvey Rule wrote:
> I have copper on mine for oil and gas primer.
>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nylo-seal oil pressure line?
> > From: Allen@allenrice.net
> > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:19:45 -0700
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > I know that older planes used copper. I restored a 1931 Great Lakes
> biplane that used 1/8" copper direct from the engine to the oil
> pressure gauge. There were lots of practices from the "old days" that
> have been superseded by new accepted practices, most due to failures.
> >
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> > Al Rice
> > Skybolt 260
> > RV-9A
> > Helping with my grandson's Pietenpol Air Camper
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315486#315486
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| Subject: | Fuel sump question |
Checked the archives and found nice email from Chuck G that was helpful,
but
I have another question. For my wing tank I=92m planning 2 fuel
outlets, 1
front and 1 rear. On the rear edge of the tank I will also have a float
gauge with a sump drain and a machined sump bowl with a drain. Since
the
drains and the rear fuel outlet are at the same level, I=92m
wondering=85.For
the fuel outlet should I extend it into the tank a =BC=94 to be above
any water
that may be present. I understand the drawback of decreasing my tank
capacity. Any thoughts would certainly be appreciated!
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Two Air Camper projects, now Felts field |
Yes, he did, my dad and uncle were there and have told me so numerous times.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
Sent: 10/11/2010 12:24:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale.
Yes, I read somewhere that Lindbergh stopped at Felts field with the Spirit of
St. Louis in 27 when touring the country.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Nylo-seal oil pressure line? |
I ran copper tubing. 210 hours and all's well.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nylo-seal oil pressure line?
Ok, I bought the A/C Spruce oil pressure line kit, and after I get it and
start looking at the Nylo-Seal tubing, it says "max temp 212 degrees." I
went with the nylon because I thought it would withstand the vibration
better than copper. But the temp rating for the nylon worries me, as does
something I read recently in one of Tony Bengalis's articles on the EAA site
that you don't want flammable liquids running through tubing that can burn
through and feed an engine fire.
I feel kinda dumb with the Piet in the final stages but there's a way I can
run copper tubing or Aeroquip 303 rubber braided hose.
What would y'all do?
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: Two Air Camper projects, now Felts field |
That is really cool Skip, did they have any pictures of the event?
rick
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Yes, he did, my dad and uncle were there and have told me so numerous
> times.
> Skip
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* 10/11/2010 12:24:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Air Camper projects for sale.
>
> Yes, I read somewhere that Lindbergh stopped at Felts field with the Spirit
> of St. Louis in 27 when touring the country.
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> do not archive
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Boeing surplus |
They have TI listed right now on the site. Its listed under bulk metal, and they
say it is 33,00+ LBS. The highest bid is 250K.
http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/surplus/reclamation/bidresults.html
Good luck and happy bidding.
Do not archive.
Jim.
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