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1. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: spoked rim sizes? (Gary Boothe)
2. 08:14 AM - Re: Model A, more pics (j_dunavin)
3. 03:30 PM - throttle and brakes (skellytown flyer)
4. 03:46 PM - Re: throttle and brakes (Ryan Mueller)
5. 04:10 PM - Re: throttle and brakes (skellytown flyer)
6. 05:01 PM - Re: spoked rim sizes? (bubbleboy)
7. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: spoked rim sizes? (Gary Boothe)
8. 08:33 PM - Project Visit - Tucson (kevinpurtee)
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| Subject: | Re: spoked rim sizes? |
Scotty,
By 'stepping down', I mean that I started with a thick wall 1 1/2" pipe,
chose another thick walled pipe that would fit inside (about 24" long), that
had an inside diameter close to 1" then chose another pipe that would fit
inside (about 24" long) that would work for the actual axel for the
bearings. The wheels are held on with a simple collar with a #3 bolt through
it. Hope that helps....
More importantly...you can't get on www.westcoastpiet.com??? GOOD HEAVENS,
MAN! How are you able to complete anything? ;-)
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
21 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: spoked rim sizes?
<scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Hi Gary...what do you mean by stepping it down? Did you use a solid axle and
have it turned down or tube and slide one in side the other. I cant get on
the West Coat Piet site for some reason to have a look at your pics.
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Model A, more pics |
ooops!
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| Subject: | throttle and brakes |
Well I am finally getting a little progress on my left brake on my project- they
are old 1947 dated multiple segment Hayes brakes with a rubber expansion bladder
and Gerdes master cylinders attached to the rudder pedals. I am wondering
if that style piston master cylinder has enough volume to really expand the old
brakes enough. the right one worked fairly well but the left one wouldn't.
I just finished putting .025" shims under most of the shoe segments on that side
and got them to work though the drum does get kinda warm after extended taxi.
if it doesn't break in soon I guess I'll do something else.also the Stromberg
has a bad dead spot. as it comes off idle. it was rebuilt according to the
tag that I got with DJ's paperwork.looks nice and clean inside but I have a hard
time getting it to take throttle especially till it warms up real good.once
it is past maybe a 1/2" on the lever it goes ahead and runs up great. and I have
played with the idle screw and probably have it at 1 3/4 turns out now.no
real improvement- seemed to run worse at 2 1/2 turns.it is mounted with the bowl
side against the firewall and the throttle shaft forward. I thought that could
possibly be an issue with the tail down, but raising the tail doesn't seem
to help. also I can hit the primer when it's stumbling and trying to take power
and it kills it so that tells me it is rich rather than lean at that point.sometimes
pulling carb heat seemed to help some but there sure isn't any icing
here with the humidity as low as it is in the Texas panhandle right now.the mixture
is wired full rich.it runs plenty strong if you can get it to go past the
dead spot.just wondering if any of you have run into similar issues with your
Stromberg? Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: throttle and brakes |
Raymond,
If I recall correctly, DJ had an Aero-Carb initially, and apparently changed
to the Stromberg. Do you know who overhauled it, and if they overhauled it
with the Corvair application in mind (that can matter)?
Ryan
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:27 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
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> Well I am finally getting a little progress on my left brake on my project-
> they are old 1947 dated multiple segment Hayes brakes with a rubber
> expansion bladder and Gerdes master cylinders attached to the rudder pedals.
> I am wondering if that style piston master cylinder has enough volume to
> really expand the old brakes enough. the right one worked fairly well but
> the left one wouldn't. I just finished putting .025" shims under most of the
> shoe segments on that side and got them to work though the drum does get
> kinda warm after extended taxi. if it doesn't break in soon I guess I'll do
> something else.also the Stromberg has a bad dead spot. as it comes off idle.
> it was rebuilt according to the tag that I got with DJ's paperwork.looks
> nice and clean inside but I have a hard time getting it to take throttle
> especially till it warms up real good.once it is past maybe a 1/2" on the
> lever it goes ahead and runs up great. and I have played with the idle screw
> and probably have it !
> at 1 3/4 turns out now.no real improvement- seemed to run worse at 2 1/2
> turns.it is mounted with the bowl side against the firewall and the
> throttle shaft forward. I thought that could possibly be an issue with the
> tail down, but raising the tail doesn't seem to help. also I can hit the
> primer when it's stumbling and trying to take power and it kills it so that
> tells me it is rich rather than lean at that point.sometimes pulling carb
> heat seemed to help some but there sure isn't any icing here with the
> humidity as low as it is in the Texas panhandle right now.the mixture is
> wired full rich.it runs plenty strong if you can get it to go past the
> dead spot.just wondering if any of you have run into similar issues with
> your Stromberg? Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315983#315983
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: throttle and brakes |
Well I have not been able to contact DJ lately- he may have changed his address.
but I have a yellow tag from a shop in Conroe Texas dated 10-1-01 that states
they overhauled and tested a Sromberg for C90-12F ,in accordance with NA-S3A1
service manual for Stromberg Carburetors. I guess I could go back and remove
it and make sure the serial number matches. I did not do that/otherwise I had
a theory that maybe it's a little rich and the only way to lower the float level
in them I can see is to add a thicker washer under the seat. the old brass
floats are heavy duty and not made to bend to adjust.I am not getting the idle
screw to help as far as doing away with the dead spot.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: spoked rim sizes? |
Hi Gary....sounds like a good idea. Will look into some thing like that.
Looking at the Sportster rims, did you use the 2.15" or the 2.5" wide? I think
I like the 2.5" although would add to the weight I would imagine.
Just looking on a web site, it appears the Sportsters from 2008 on wards came out
with 1" bearings rather than the 3/4".
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: spoked rim sizes? |
Scotty,
Mine are 2 1/2" rims.
I forgot to mention...on the axle, the first step down is welded to the main
axel by drilling a 1/4" hole in the main axle to expose the first piece. I
then could weld that piece to the main axle and fill the hole with weld.
The second piece, the one that is the axle thru the wheel bearing is
thru-bolted to the main axle and the step-down. That way, if I have under
engineered the axle, I can un-bolt it, slide it out, and replace with a
solid axle.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(21 ribs down.)
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: spoked rim sizes?
<scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Hi Gary....sounds like a good idea. Will look into some thing like that.
Looking at the Sportster rims, did you use the 2.15" or the 2.5" wide? I
think I like the 2.5" although would add to the weight I would imagine.
Just looking on a web site, it appears the Sportsters from 2008 on wards
came out with 1" bearings rather than the 3/4".
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Project Visit - Tucson |
Andrew Eldredge was kind enough to allow me an airplane visit today during my banishment
to AZ. He's reworking the airplane his brother, Steve, built. I didn't
snap to which plane it was until I got there. I've always really liked the
plane. It's well made.
Andrew milled some wood for me so I could continue building ribs for the next project.
We made a BIG mess in his garage with dust, smoke, wood chips and all
sorts of drama. Lots of fun:). He was nice enough to not boot me out afterward.
Anyway, thanks to Andrew and his wonderful family. Nice people. I love project
visits and making new Piet friends.
Jim Boyer: I think Andrew will be at Copperstate. Maybe the three of us can meet
up on Saturday. I'll get with you off-line later this week.
Axel
do not archive
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Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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