Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 10/18/10


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:35 AM - Re: turnbuckles (Donald Lane)
     2. 07:29 AM - wheel repair (Dan Yocum)
     3. 09:25 AM - Re: 1.5mm Plywood (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
     4. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: turnbuckles (Michael Perez)
     5. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: turnbuckles (Rick Holland)
     6. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: turnbuckles (gboothe5@comcast.net)
     7. 12:24 PM - Tailwheel endorsement question (John Franklin)
     8. 12:37 PM - stromberg carb (Harvey Rule)
     9. 12:56 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement question (hvandervoo@aol.com)
    10. 01:02 PM - horns by Mike P.  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    11. 01:05 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement question (Andrew M Eldredge)
    12. 01:25 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement question (Ryan Mueller)
    13. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: turnbuckles (Ben Charvet)
    14. 02:24 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement question (Ben Charvet)
    15. 02:31 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement question (jim)
    16. 02:31 PM - Re: Stromberg carbs (Rick Holland)
    17. 02:42 PM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Kringle)
    18. 02:52 PM - Re: Stromberg carbs (Harvey Rule)
    19. 03:01 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement question (Matt Wash)
    20. 08:00 PM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Tucker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:35:49 AM PST US
    From: "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: turnbuckles
    Hi Dick Thanks for the quick response. I have studied the pictures in the Aircraft Spruce catalog and cannot see any way to run the wire through the pin end to turn it back on the turnbuckle, whithout going around the pin itself, which looks to me to be unacceptable. I guess I will step back and start over with a fork end arrangement to remove the problem. This is connecting the rudder cables to the rudder horns. through flat metal links, because when putting the fork end of a turnbuckle directly to the rudder, I found that I could only get a few degrees of deflection of the rudder before the fork would jam in the horn. This would also possibly damage the safety wire over time. I am still curious if there is a proper way to do this. I think the fork end is a better arrangement anyway and will go that route. Don L


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    Time: 07:29:20 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: wheel repair
    Axel, Next time you've got gear troubles, we'll take Shelley up and she can fix it like in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oAzdbd0J2A ;-) Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 09:25:26 AM PST US
    From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 1.5mm Plywood
    Norm, - You are correct! The price of $29.00 per sheet is for damaged sheets abused by the fork lift and other mishandling. However, if you need to get some p ieces form these sheets it will save you many $$. - KMHeide Fargo, ND - --- On Sun, 10/17/10, norm <coevst@yahoo.com> wrote: From: norm <coevst@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1.5mm Plywood There is a fellow at Boulter that is a bit fast ,,,, watch for damaged good s whitch he will pawn off on you at least if you are a walk in customer.... From: tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 9:41:31 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1.5mm Plywood Guys, In looking for 1.5mm plywood, I called Boulter Plywood and asked for 1.5mm Okume plywood, and they gave me a price of $49 per 4x8 sheet.- Since I ha d seen their ad earlier this year for $29 for the same sheets, I was sorry that I had missed the sale.- So I searched and came across a site that ha s 1.5 mm Aircraft Birch Plywood in 4.4 sheets - Plywood & Door, with severa l locations around the US.- Their cost is $23. per sheet, which translate s to $46 for a 4 x 8.- (Add shipping and you have a pretty steep price.) I mentioned this to Dick Navratil, and lamented the fact that I didn't jump on the sale that Boulter Plywood listed in Sport Aviation.- Dick emailed me back the next day to tell me the ad was still there and current.- So, I called Boulter Friday afternoon, and told them I just saw the ad in t he current Sport Aviation, and they extended the price to me at $29 per she et. After they took the order they called back late in the afternoon, and said if I wanted to add to the order they would extend the price, but they were going to contact EAA on Monday - tomorrow - and rescind the price. So, if you need gusset material, NOW is the time to jump on this and let th em know you just saw the ad, and want to place an order. Please, however, do not mention this post, or my name, as I don't want my o rder upset. Best luck to all! -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/vienbsp; - - - - - - - - - -====================== =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:38:41 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: turnbuckles
    Don, attached is a picture, (re sized smaller...for those who has requested so...) of my horns. They all use the fork end directly attached to the hor n. However, I use swaged on forks, the turnbuckle is at the rudder bar. My travel is not hindered by the fork...maybe your hole set back is excessive, or the swage on cable forks are different. I assume you do not want to purchase new turnbuckles, but there are the typ e that use a spring type clip for safety...no hand wiring required. (also a vail. at AS&S.) Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Donald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Donald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: turnbuckles =0A=0A =0A =0A=0AHi Dick=0AThanks for the quick response.- I have studied =0Athe pictures in the Aircraft Spruce catalog and cannot see any way to r un the =0Awire through the pin end to turn it back on the turnbuckle, whith out going =0Aaround the pin itself, which looks to me to be unacceptable. - I guess I =0Awill step back and start over with a fork end arrangement to remove the =0Aproblem.- This is connecting the rudder cables to the ru dder =0Ahorns.-through flat metal links, because when putting the fork en d of a =0Aturnbuckle directly to the rudder, I found that I could only get a few degrees =0Aof deflection of the rudder before the fork would jam in t he horn.- This =0Awould also possibly damage the safety wire over time. =0AI am still curious if there is a proper way to do =0Athis.- I think th e fork end is a better arrangement anyway and will go that =0Aroute.=0ADon =======================0A=0A


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    Time: 10:00:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: turnbuckles
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    I did the same thing for the same reason, turnbuckles on the bell crank. rick On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > Don, attached is a picture, (re sized smaller...for those who has requested > so...) of my horns. They all use the fork end directly attached to the horn. > However, I use swaged on forks, the turnbuckle is at the rudder bar. My > travel is not hindered by the fork...maybe your hole set back is excessive, > or the swage on cable forks are different. > > I assume you do not want to purchase new turnbuckles, but there are the > type that use a spring type clip for safety...no hand wiring required. (also > avail. at AS&S.) > > Michael Perez > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > --- On *Mon, 10/18/10, Donald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Donald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: turnbuckles > To: "pietenpol" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 8:29 AM > > Hi Dick > Thanks for the quick response. I have studied the pictures in the Aircraft > Spruce catalog and cannot see any way to run the wire through the pin end to > turn it back on the turnbuckle, whithout going around the pin itself, which > looks to me to be unacceptable. I guess I will step back and start over > with a fork end arrangement to remove the problem. This is connecting the > rudder cables to the rudder horns. through flat metal links, because when > putting the fork end of a turnbuckle directly to the rudder, I found that I > could only get a few degrees of deflection of the rudder before the fork > would jam in the horn. This would also possibly damage the safety wire over > time. > I am still curious if there is a proper way to do this. I think the fork > end is a better arrangement anyway and will go that route. > Don L > > *httt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib============== > <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 10:37:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: turnbuckles
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
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    Time: 12:24:30 PM PST US
    From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
    Subject: Tailwheel endorsement question
    Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying LS. Does one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel endorsement? If so, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement in an LS certified plane. The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his Citabria, and that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a Citabria is not LS. I just haven't seen many LS planes available for rental here in SE Texas. Thanks, John F. GN-1 / Corvair Richmond, TX ________________________________________


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    Time: 12:37:30 PM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: stromberg carb
    > _tried out the Stromberg carb today and what a difference.It started righ t away no hesitation =2Ckept going no need to keep priming.Lots of power.AM E o take the Marvel home and see what he can find if anything is wrong with it.Must be something wrong with it because it worked fine before. > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 12:56:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement question
    From: hvandervoo@aol.com
    John, If you can pass medical, just get your medical for one year and get your en dorsement, then let your medical lapse again. Unless you have a instructor that is willing to give you an endorsement wit hout going solo. Hans -----Original Message----- From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 2:24 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheel endorsement question Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying LS. oes one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel endorsement? If o, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement in an LS certified lane. The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his Citab ria, nd that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a Citabria is not LS. I ust haven't seen many LS planes available for rental here in SE Texas. Thanks, ohn F. N-1 / Corvair ichmond, TX ________________________________________ -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 01:02:40 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: horns by Mike P.
    I've seen these in person and I don't recall ever seeing horns without some kind of waver or warp in them but Mike's somehow remained warp-free. They are very clean looking. Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 01:05:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement question
    From: Andrew M Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>
    Solo time is not a requirement for the tailwheel endorsement, instruction only... from CFR Title 14 part 61.31 (i) *Additional training required for operating tailwheel airplanes. *(1) Except as provided in paragraph (i)(2) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that person has received and logged flight training from an authorized instructor in a tailwheel airplane and received an endorsement in the person's logbook from an authorized instructor who found the person proficient in the operation of a tailwheel airplane. The flight training must include at least the following maneuvers and procedures: (i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings; (ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against such landings); and (iii) Go-around procedures. (2) The training and endorsement required by paragraph (i)(1) of this section is not required if the person logged pilot-in-command time in a tailwheel airplane before April 15, 1991. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote: > > Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying > LS. Does one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel > endorsement? If so, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement in > an LS certified plane. > > The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his > Citabria, and that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a Citabria > is not LS. I just haven't seen many LS planes available for rental here in > SE Texas. > > Thanks, > John F. > GN-1 / Corvair > Richmond, TX > > ________________________________________ > > -- Andrew Eldredge Sahuarita, AZ


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    Time: 01:25:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement question
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    And technically, the way that is written, you can't solo in a tailwheel airplane (since you would be PIC) until the instructor has provided you with the tailwheel endorsement in your logbook... If need be, per the Sport Pilot website ( http://www.sportpilot.org/instructors/texas_1.html), there are Sport Pilot instructors listed in League City and La Porte, with a J-3 and a Taylorcraft respectively. Good luck! Ryan On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Andrew M Eldredge < andrew.eldredge@gmail.com> wrote: > Solo time is not a requirement for the tailwheel endorsement, instruction > only... > > from CFR Title 14 part 61.31 > > (i) *Additional training required for operating tailwheel airplanes. *(1) > Except as provided in paragraph (i)(2) of this section, no person may act as > pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that person has received and > logged flight training from an authorized instructor in a tailwheel airplane > and received an endorsement in the person's logbook from an authorized > instructor who found the person proficient in the operation of a tailwheel > airplane. The flight training must include at least the following maneuvers > and procedures: > > (i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings; > > (ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against such > landings); and > > (iii) Go-around procedures. > > (2) The training and endorsement required by paragraph (i)(1) of this > section is not required if the person logged pilot-in-command time in a > tailwheel airplane before April 15, 1991. > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>wrote: > >> >> Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying >> LS. Does one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel >> endorsement? If so, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement in >> an LS certified plane. >> >> The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his >> Citabria, and that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a Citabria >> is not LS. I just haven't seen many LS planes available for rental here in >> SE Texas. >> >> Thanks, >> John F. >> GN-1 / Corvair >> Richmond, TX >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> ========== >> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Andrew Eldredge > Sahuarita, AZ > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 02:10:06 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: turnbuckles
    I didn't have any trouble fitting the wire through the pin-hole or through the fork to safety my turnbuckles, even using the double wrap method. Did you try it? Ben On 10/18/2010 8:29 AM, Donald Lane wrote: > Hi Dick > Thanks for the quick response. I have studied the pictures in the > Aircraft Spruce catalog and cannot see any way to run the wire through > the pin end to turn it back on the turnbuckle, whithout going around > the pin itself, which looks to me to be unacceptable. I guess I will > step back and start over with a fork end arrangement to remove the > problem. This is connecting the rudder cables to the rudder > horns. through flat metal links, because when putting the fork end of > a turnbuckle directly to the rudder, I found that I could only get a > few degrees of deflection of the rudder before the fork would jam in > the horn. This would also possibly damage the safety wire over time. > I am still curious if there is a proper way to do this. I think the > fork end is a better arrangement anyway and will go that route. > Don L > * > > > *


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    Time: 02:24:01 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement question
    You can get instruction in a non LS airplane because your CFI is pilot in command. I got my tailwheel endorsement in a Citabria as a LS pilot. I must say that a Citabria isn't very similar to a Pietenpol in flight though, so try to get some dual time in a Cub before flying your GN-1. Have fun! Ben On 10/18/2010 3:21 PM, John Franklin wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Franklin<jbfjr@peoplepc.com> > > Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying LS. Does one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel endorsement? If so, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement in an LS certified plane. > > The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his Citabria, and that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a Citabria is not LS. I just haven't seen many LS planes available for rental here in SE Texas. > > Thanks, > John F. > GN-1 / Corvair > Richmond, TX > > ________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 02:31:47 PM PST US
    From: "jim" <quinnj@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement question
    Hi John, There is no solo requirement to get your tailwheel endorsement. Rather, as Andrew cited, you must be signed off (get an endorsement) from a CFI showing you are proficient in the operations he listed. You do not need a medical to train, ie get the dual instruction. Obviously you can not solo the Citabria once you have the endorsement because it is not a LS. As an Instructor I would give you the sign-off without your medical, after explaining to you that you could not act as PIC in a non-LS aircraft because you lacked the medical. However, you are good to go in a LS. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Franklin" <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheel endorsement question > > Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying > LS. Does one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel > endorsement? If so, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement > in an LS certified plane. > > The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his > Citabria, and that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a > Citabria is not LS. I just haven't seen many LS planes available for > rental here in SE Texas. > > Thanks, > John F. > GN-1 / Corvair > Richmond, TX > > ________________________________________ > > >


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    Time: 02:31:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stromberg carbs
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Did your Marvel have a accelerator pump Harvey? If so it doesn't sound like it was working. rick On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net> wrote: > I just switched over from a Marvel Shebler to a Stromberg due to the AME > feeling that the Marvel may have had a float problem.The only one we could > find around was the Stromberg.Not sure how it will work out.One problem we > had to fix right away was the fuel line needed to be longer by about 3 > inches .Still waiting for new fuel line so I can't test it. > Sure hope everything works out OK.With the old carb I had to constantly > prime in order to start thus the reason for the AME to believe there might > be a float problem.Once the engine did start with the Marvel it did have a > problem with throttling up as well which it never had before.Perhaps that > may have been part of the float problem too.Nothing but engine problems this > summer,one thing after another preventing me from flying.Very frustrating > season for me.Here's hoping next season will be better! > > > > From: taildrags@hotmail.com > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carbs > > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:49:13 -0500 > > > > taildrags@hotmail.com> > > > > > > Raymond wrote: > > > > >I am not getting the idle screw to help as far as > > >doing away with the dead spot. > > > > If you look at the way the Stromberg carb is set up, you'll > > see that the idle circuit opens up into the throat of the > > carb right where the throttle butterfly plate contacts the > > wall of the throat. In fact, when you pull back the throttle > > all the way back to idle, that's the only time there is > > enough 'signal' for the carb to pull fuel through that > > circuit. You can see this by looking at Neal Wright's > > diagram of the carb fuel circuits on pg. 2, here: > > http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Stromberg%20stuff.pdf > > and the idle fuel circuit is sort of in violet. > > > > By design, then, adjusting the idle mixture screw > > should only affect the engine operation when the throttle > > is at idle and your problem is not at idle... it's in the > > first opening of the throttle as you come off of idle. > > > > >From Harry Fenton, on the FlyBaby site: "Your stumble is > > probably due to blocked or obstructed bleed hole. If one > > of the bleed holes which serves as the transition from idle > > to higher power settings is blocked, the engine will stumble. > > Another possibility is that the holes where the throttle shaft > > passes through the carb body are worn. If too much air is > > pulled through the holes, then the mixture will lean out and > > the carb will stumble until more fuel is available. If the > > engine was previously used on a homebuilt, then perhaps the > > carb air box was too small." > > > > "If you look into the carb throat, there is an extremely > > small hole just above the butterfly valve in the carb throat > > which opens up a circuit from idle to mid-range power.If this > > passage is obstructed, then the carb will stumble as the > > throttle is advanced through the 1300-1500 rpm range.DO NOT > > use compressed air to blow through the passage as you run the > > very likely risk of pulling a sudden vacuum in the float chamber > > and the float can implode or distort.The most correct way to > > clear this passage would be to disassemble the carb and try to > > clear out the passage with an ultrasonic cleaner." > > > > > > Oscar Zuniga > > Air Camper NX41CC > > San Antonio, TX > > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > > website at http:====================== > > > > > > > > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 02:42:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    Tucker are using 1/2 pins? -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316251#316251


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    Time: 02:52:35 PM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: Stromberg carbs
    Good question=2CI don't know.I'll check that out and get back to you. do not archive Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carbs From: at7000ft@gmail.com Did your Marvel have a accelerator pump Harvey? If so it doesn't sound like it was working. rick On Sun=2C Oct 17=2C 2010 at 1:54 PM=2C Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net> w rote: I just switched over from a Marvel Shebler to a Stromberg due to the AME fe eling that the Marvel may have had a float problem.The only one we could fi nd around was the Stromberg.Not sure how it will work out.One problem we ha d to fix right away was the fuel line needed to be longer by about 3 inches .Still waiting for new fuel line so I can't test it. Sure hope everything works out OK.With the old carb I had to constantly pri me in order to start thus the reason for the AME to believe there might be a float problem.Once the engine did start with the Marvel it did have a pro blem with throttling up as well which it never had before.Perhaps that may have been part of the float problem too.Nothing but engine problems this su mmer=2Cone thing after another preventing me from flying.Very frustrating s eason for me.Here's hoping next season will be better! > From: taildrags@hotmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carbs > Date: Sun=2C 17 Oct 2010 10:49:13 -0500 > > > > > Raymond wrote: > > >I am not getting the idle screw to help as far as > >doing away with the dead spot. > > If you look at the way the Stromberg carb is set up=2C you'll > see that the idle circuit opens up into the throat of the > carb right where the throttle butterfly plate contacts the > wall of the throat. In fact=2C when you pull back the throttle > all the way back to idle=2C that's the only time there is > enough 'signal' for the carb to pull fuel through that > circuit. You can see this by looking at Neal Wright's > diagram of the carb fuel circuits on pg. 2=2C here: > http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Stromberg%20stuff.pdf > and the idle fuel circuit is sort of in violet. > > By design=2C then=2C adjusting the idle mixture screw > should only affect the engine operation when the throttle > is at idle and your problem is not at idle... it's in the > first opening of the throttle as you come off of idle. > > >From Harry Fenton=2C on the FlyBaby site: "Your stumble is > probably due to blocked or obstructed bleed hole. If one > of the bleed holes which serves as the transition from idle > to higher power settings is blocked=2C the engine will stumble. > Another possibility is that the holes where the throttle shaft > passes through the carb body are worn. If too much air is > pulled through the holes=2C then the mixture will lean out and > the carb will stumble until more fuel is available. If the > engine was previously used on a homebuilt=2C then perhaps the > carb air box was too small." > > "If you look into the carb throat=2C there is an extremely > small hole just above the butterfly valve in the carb throat > which opens up a circuit from idle to mid-range power.If this > passage is obstructed=2C then the carb will stumble as the > throttle is advanced through the 1300-1500 rpm range.DO NOT > use compressed air to blow through the passage as you run the > very likely risk of pulling a sudden vacuum in the float chamber > and the float can implode or distort.The most correct way to > clear this passage would be to disassemble the carb and try to > clear out the passage with an ultrasonic cleaner." > > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio=2C TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http:=================== === > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rick Holland Castle Rock=2C Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers=2C that smell bad"


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    Time: 03:01:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement question
    From: Matt Wash <mattwash@mattwash.com>
    John, An aircraft doesn't have to be certified under LSA guidelines for you to fly it with sport pilot restrictions. The aircraft just has to conform to the definition of a light sport, the main criteria being under 1320lbs for land aircraft. Look around for someone who gives training in their cub, champ, chief, etc. You can train and solo in these aircraft. There's a champ that is rented for training in Kittie Hill, which is near austin/georgetown. I imagine there are some places that have similar craft available near Houston. http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/lsa/standard_certificate_aircraft.html has a list of all the aircraft that are able to be flown as a sport pilot as if they were certified as LSA. ~Matt On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, jim <quinnj@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Hi John, > > There is no solo requirement to get your tailwheel endorsement. Rather, as > Andrew cited, you must be signed off (get an endorsement) from a CFI showing > you are proficient in the operations he listed. You do not need a medical to > train, ie get the dual instruction. Obviously you can not solo the Citabria > once you have the endorsement because it is not a LS. > > As an Instructor I would give you the sign-off without your medical, after > explaining to you that you could not act as PIC in a non-LS aircraft because > you lacked the medical. However, you are good to go in a LS. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Franklin" <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> > > To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:21 PM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheel endorsement question > > >> >> Like a lot of guys, I have a PPL but no medical, and am planning on flying >> LS. Does one have to fly dual as well as solo to get a tail wheel >> endorsement? If so, that would mean I would have to get the endorsement in >> an LS certified plane. >> >> The reason I ask is because I have a friend that would let me use his >> Citabria, and that would only cost me the instructor's time, but a Citabria >> is not LS. I just haven't seen many LS planes available for rental here in >> SE Texas. >> >> Thanks, >> John F. >> GN-1 / Corvair >> Richmond, TX >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:00:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net>
    Right. 1/2" pin nails from FastenerUSA.com. About 40# air pressure drives the nails just right. -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316284#316284




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