Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/21/10


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:00 AM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Kringle)
     2. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Richard Schreiber)
     3. 04:35 AM - Engine Build (Jack)
     4. 05:12 AM - fuel level while video taping (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     5. 10:12 AM - ca trip next week and wk after (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     6. 10:56 AM - For Jim Boyer (kevinpurtee)
     7. 02:25 PM - Re: Project Visit - Tucson (Jim Boyer)
     8. 03:08 PM - Re: For Jim Boyer (Jim Boyer)
     9. 03:24 PM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Tucker)
    10. 04:01 PM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Billy McCaskill)
    11. 04:03 PM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Dangerous Dave)
    12. 04:26 PM - Re: Wood for landing gear (skellytown flyer)
    13. 09:32 PM - Re: Model A disassembly, Chapter 1 (Mild Bill)
    14. 09:55 PM - Re: Re: Model A disassembly, Chapter 1 (Ryan Mueller)
    15. 10:05 PM - Re: Another Regulatory Topic (Mild Bill)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:00:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    Swan Secure makes a 1/2" 23 gauge stainless pin nail. I'm still looking for an online source for them. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316543#316543


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    Time: 04:35:27 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    Varnishing the pins or staples is not enough. There is enough residual moisture in the wood to eventually corrode the staples if they are not coated. Galvanized staples may work though. Rick Schreiber > [Original Message] > From: Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: 10/20/2010 11:36:49 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Doin' Some Ribs > > > Does varnishing the ribs count as coating the pins? The pins are galvanized, but I was also planning on covering over the tiny little holes made by the 23 ga pins with varnish as I varnished the rest of the ribs... > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316532#316532 > >


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    Time: 04:35:27 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Engine Build
    Posted some shots of my C-85 project, www.textors.com Jack DSM


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    Time: 05:12:56 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: fuel level while video taping
    Oscar--you're right. My cork and wire float stop floating when I have 1.2 hours cruise flight remaining. Had plenty of fuel but thanks for your concern. Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 10:12:59 AM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: ca trip next week and wk after
    Anyone interested in a visit, I'll be in Southern Ca next week and again the following week, let me know off list if you're interested Do not archive John


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    Time: 10:56:18 AM PST US
    Subject: For Jim Boyer
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Sorry to post this on the main list. Jim - If you're at Copperstate on Saturday, please call me at 512-422-6371 so we can touch base. Thanks, Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316596#316596


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    Time: 02:25:30 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Project Visit - Tucson
    Hi Andrew, If you can make it tomorrow, Friday, call me on my cell and we can meet up at Copperstate where I suggested in previous message or where-ever. Jim B. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew M Eldredge" <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:03:19 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Project Visit - Tucson Forces are conspiring against my intended Saturday appearance at Copperstate. I might yet make Friday, if I can push work aside. I'll keep you posted so we can meet up in case I do make it. Andrew On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jim Boyer < boyerjrb@comcast.net > wrote: Hi Kevin and Andrew, Look forward to seeing you at Copperstate on Saturday. Cheers, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" < kevin.purtee@us.army.mil > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 8:31:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Project Visit - Tucson Andrew Eldredge was kind enough to allow me an airplane visit today during my banishment to AZ. He's reworking the airplane his brother, Steve, built. I didn't snap to which plane it was until I got there. I've always really liked the plane. It's well made. Andrew milled some wood for me so I could continue building ribs for the next project. We made a BIG mess in his garage with dust, smoke, wood chips and all sorts of drama. Lots of fun:). He was nice enough to not boot me out afterward. Anyway, thanks to Andrew and his wonderful family. Nice people. I love project visits and making new Piet friends. Jim Boyer: I think Andrew will be at Copperstate. Maybe the three of us can meet up on Saturday. I'll get with you off-line later this week. Axel do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316003#316003 =========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =========== http://forums.matronics.com =========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== -- Andrew Eldredge Sahuarita, AZ


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    Time: 03:08:17 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: For Jim Boyer
    Will do Kevin, Jim do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:54:06 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: For Jim Boyer Sorry to post this on the main list. Jim - If you're at Copperstate on Saturday, please call me at 512-422-6371 so we can touch base. Thanks, Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316596#316596


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    Time: 03:24:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    From: "Tucker" <Tucker@tuckerrice.net>
    FastenerUSA.com says that they are galvanized. Should last a long time and not cause too much rusting. I'll give the forum a status update in 25 years when I recover the Piet. Here is a pic of a box of 5K. :D They are galvanized a gold color. -------- Tucker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316613#316613 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0004_254.jpg


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    Time: 04:01:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    The 23ga pins I bought are Paslode brand from Home Depot, and look exactly like the ones in the photo that Tucker posted. As small as they are, and given that they will be driven through the uncured T-88 when nailing the gussets in place, I think that the rusting will be minimal if it even occurs at all. -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316615#316615


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    Time: 04:03:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    To the nay sayers of nails.Have you ever wrecked a wood plane?Have you ever seen whats left of an un nailed plane vs. a nailed plane?The glue doesn't come apart the plywood delaminates,the nails do do something.They may not hold the plane together but they will keep it from falling apart. -------- Building a Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316617#316617


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    Time: 04:26:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wood for landing gear
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    I would think as long as your glue joints are good you would end up with an even stronger piece-since any run-out of grain or weak spot is broken by the splicing of the other piece or pieces.-I expect that is a big advantage of a laminated prop or a laminated gun stock or Bow.- it tends to strengthen and also limit warping as I understand it. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316619#316619


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    Time: 09:32:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Model A disassembly, Chapter 1
    From: "Mild Bill" <whfrank@charter.net>
    Is soft aluminum really able to stand up to the beating that cam gears must endure? -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316639#316639


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    Time: 09:55:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Model A disassembly, Chapter 1
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Aluminum cam gears are very common throughout combustion engines....as are steel, cast iron, powdered metal, and even fiber. As long as it's properly installed it should work fine. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Mild Bill <whfrank@charter.net> wrote: > > Is soft aluminum really able to stand up to the beating that cam gears must > endure? > > -------- > Bill Frank > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316639#316639 > >


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    Time: 10:05:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another Regulatory Topic
    From: "Mild Bill" <whfrank@charter.net>
    Ah, yes, the capriciousness of the FAA. I have a relative who works for the FAA. He smiles a little too broadly and laughs a little too heartily when he says, "The FAA Motto: We're not happy until you're not happy." -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316642#316642




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