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Sat 10/23/10


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 04:09 AM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes (Jerry Dotson)
     2. 04:10 AM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes (John Franklin)
     3. 07:11 AM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes ()
     4. 09:25 AM - the blonde Pietenpoler (Oscar Zuniga)
     5. 09:35 AM - Re: Rudder horn hole spacing (Michael Perez)
     6. 09:44 AM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (Gary Boothe)
     7. 10:40 AM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (Ryan Mueller)
     8. 01:05 PM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (j_dunavin)
     9. 03:43 PM - worn out screw holes in wood (Douwe Blumberg)
    10. 03:56 PM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (shad bell)
    11. 03:58 PM - Re: worn out screw holes in wood (shad bell)
    12. 04:48 PM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes (Rick Holland)
    13. 05:43 PM - The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II (Oscar Zuniga)
    14. 06:56 PM - Re: The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II (Jeff Boatright)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:09:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Repairing wood screw holes
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I agree with Billy on the CA glue. If it is stripped out bad put toothpicks in the hole with the CA. Just let it cure real good before putting the screw back in. It will make removal difficult if it is still wet -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316745#316745


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    Time: 04:10:44 AM PST US
    From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
    Subject: Re: Repairing wood screw holes
    Steve, You might try filling the holes with a steel-filled epoxy such as J-B Weld and then re-drill them. I'd try it on one or two and see how it does. Regards, John F. Richmond, TX -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> >Sent: Oct 22, 2010 11:28 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Repairing wood screw holes > >My 28 year old, 600 hour plane has a few screw holes that are wearing out. I have a sheetmetal cover over the nose tank, screwed to the longerons on each side with 3/8" long screws. Despite my best efforts to barely torque these screws, some of them have become quite loose, and on my last flight I actually lost a screw. So, it is time to fix them. What is the best technique here? > >Gluing a snug-fitting dowel rod into the hole, then cutting and sanding it flush seems like it would work. Should I use T-88, or would Type II PVA (wood glue) be good? Type II would be easier but if T-88 is better that is what I want. I'd like the repairs to last another 30 years (or longer). > >It seems to me that it would be best not to drill out the holes, but instead to use a snug wood dowel and leaving any remaining fibers inside the hole. Am I wrong? > >Is there any reason I shouldn't use a hardwood dowel (like oak)? It seems like this would give more durable, longer lasting screw holes/threads. > >Any other thoughts would be appreciated. > >Steve Ruse >Norman, OK ________________________________________


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    Time: 07:11:16 AM PST US
    From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Repairing wood screw holes
    Go to www.mcmaster.com and search for inserts for wood. There is quite a va riety and you can coat the outside of the insert with glue to make sure it doesn't come out. You may have to u se machine screws to hold your metal plate on but it would be a permanent fix. Rodney Hall ---- Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> wrote: >My 28 year old, 600 hour=C2-plane=C2-has a few screw holes that are we aring out.=C2-=C2-I have a sheetmetal cover over the nose tank, screwed to the longerons on each side with 3/8" long=C2-screws.=C2- Despite my best efforts to barely torque these screws, some of them have become quite loose, and on my last flight I actually lost a screw.=C2- So, it is time to fix them.=C2- What is the best technique here?=C2-Gluing a snug-fit ting dowel rod into the hole, then cutting and sanding it flush=C2-seems like it would work.=C2- Should I use T-88, or would Type II PVA (wood glu e) be good?=C2- Type II would be easier but if T-88 is better that is wha t I want.=C2- I'd like the repairs to last another 30 years (or longer). =C2-It seems to me that it would be best not to drill out the holes, but instead to use a snug wood dowel and leaving any remaining fibers inside th e hole.=C2- Am I wrong?=C2-Is there any reason I shouldn't use a hardwo od dowel (like oak)?=C2- It seems like this would give more durable, long er lasting=C2-screw holes/threads.=C2-Any other thoughts would be appre =======


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    Time: 09:25:51 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: the blonde Pietenpoler
    We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly though... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 09:35:34 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder horn hole spacing
    Thanks guys. I am fabricating my own tail wheel assembly now and wanted to know the rudder horn size to gauge my tail wheel horn off of. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 09:44:49 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: the blonde Pietenpoler
    OK....now back to something unproductive! Oscar, you made my day... Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 9:15 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: the blonde Pietenpoler We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly though... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 10:40:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: the blonde Pietenpoler
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Hahahaha....nice job Oscar! Ryan do not archive On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. > So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up > with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: > > http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 > > Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly > though... > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 01:05:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the blonde Pietenpoler
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    "Crank Snapping Corvair" ??? :x She just lost her chance. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316783#316783


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    Time: 03:43:19 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: worn out screw holes in wood
    I've heard the same fix (Frank Pavliga I think). Inject crazy glue/hot stuff, (the thin stuff, not the gel) into the hole and let cure and I've heard they're better than new as the wood is now much stronger. Douwe Do not archive


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    Time: 03:56:52 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: the blonde Pietenpoler
    That's a good one,- Jake thought he was watching cartoons. - Shad We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly though... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 03:58:35 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: worn out screw holes in wood
    Model airplane "CA" glue works well to. I=99ve heard the same fix (Frank Pavliga I think).=C2- Inject crazy glue/hot stuff, (the thin stuff, not the gel) into the hole and let cure a nd I=99ve heard they=99re better than new as the wood is now mu ch stronger. =C2- Douwe =C2- Do not archive =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:48:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Repairing wood screw holes
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Or drill the hole a little bigger, screw in a barrel nut and use a machine screw. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>wrote: > My 28 year old, 600 hour plane has a few screw holes that are wearing > out. I have a sheetmetal cover over the nose tank, screwed to the longerons > on each side with 3/8" long screws. Despite my best efforts to barely > torque these screws, some of them have become quite loose, and on my last > flight I actually lost a screw. So, it is time to fix them. What is the > best technique here? > > Gluing a snug-fitting dowel rod into the hole, then cutting and sanding it > flush seems like it would work. Should I use T-88, or would Type II PVA > (wood glue) be good? Type II would be easier but if T-88 is better that is > what I want. I'd like the repairs to last another 30 years (or longer). > > It seems to me that it would be best not to drill out the holes, but > instead to use a snug wood dowel and leaving any remaining fibers inside the > hole. Am I wrong? > > Is there any reason I shouldn't use a hardwood dowel (like oak)? It seems > like this would give more durable, longer lasting screw holes/threads. > > Any other thoughts would be appreciated. > > Steve Ruse > Norman, OK > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 05:43:53 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II
    Well, I've finally gotten my actors to get their pronunciations straightened out, and the young lady has realized that there are six jugs on a Corvair now... http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7441025/ Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:56:48 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II
    BEST.




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