---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/23/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:09 AM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes (Jerry Dotson) 2. 04:10 AM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes (John Franklin) 3. 07:11 AM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes () 4. 09:25 AM - the blonde Pietenpoler (Oscar Zuniga) 5. 09:35 AM - Re: Rudder horn hole spacing (Michael Perez) 6. 09:44 AM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (Gary Boothe) 7. 10:40 AM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (Ryan Mueller) 8. 01:05 PM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (j_dunavin) 9. 03:43 PM - worn out screw holes in wood (Douwe Blumberg) 10. 03:56 PM - Re: the blonde Pietenpoler (shad bell) 11. 03:58 PM - Re: worn out screw holes in wood (shad bell) 12. 04:48 PM - Re: Repairing wood screw holes (Rick Holland) 13. 05:43 PM - The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II (Oscar Zuniga) 14. 06:56 PM - Re: The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II (Jeff Boatright) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Repairing wood screw holes From: "Jerry Dotson" I agree with Billy on the CA glue. If it is stripped out bad put toothpicks in the hole with the CA. Just let it cure real good before putting the screw back in. It will make removal difficult if it is still wet -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316745#316745 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:44 AM PST US From: John Franklin Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Repairing wood screw holes Steve, You might try filling the holes with a steel-filled epoxy such as J-B Weld and then re-drill them. I'd try it on one or two and see how it does. Regards, John F. Richmond, TX -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Ruse >Sent: Oct 22, 2010 11:28 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Repairing wood screw holes > >My 28 year old, 600 hour plane has a few screw holes that are wearing out. I have a sheetmetal cover over the nose tank, screwed to the longerons on each side with 3/8" long screws. Despite my best efforts to barely torque these screws, some of them have become quite loose, and on my last flight I actually lost a screw. So, it is time to fix them. What is the best technique here? > >Gluing a snug-fitting dowel rod into the hole, then cutting and sanding it flush seems like it would work. Should I use T-88, or would Type II PVA (wood glue) be good? Type II would be easier but if T-88 is better that is what I want. I'd like the repairs to last another 30 years (or longer). > >It seems to me that it would be best not to drill out the holes, but instead to use a snug wood dowel and leaving any remaining fibers inside the hole. Am I wrong? > >Is there any reason I shouldn't use a hardwood dowel (like oak)? It seems like this would give more durable, longer lasting screw holes/threads. > >Any other thoughts would be appreciated. > >Steve Ruse >Norman, OK ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:16 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Repairing wood screw holes Go to www.mcmaster.com and search for inserts for wood. There is quite a va riety and you can coat the outside of the insert with glue to make sure it doesn't come out. You may have to u se machine screws to hold your metal plate on but it would be a permanent fix. Rodney Hall ---- Steve Ruse wrote: >My 28 year old, 600 hour=C2-plane=C2-has a few screw holes that are we aring out.=C2-=C2-I have a sheetmetal cover over the nose tank, screwed to the longerons on each side with 3/8" long=C2-screws.=C2- Despite my best efforts to barely torque these screws, some of them have become quite loose, and on my last flight I actually lost a screw.=C2- So, it is time to fix them.=C2- What is the best technique here?=C2-Gluing a snug-fit ting dowel rod into the hole, then cutting and sanding it flush=C2-seems like it would work.=C2- Should I use T-88, or would Type II PVA (wood glu e) be good?=C2- Type II would be easier but if T-88 is better that is wha t I want.=C2- I'd like the repairs to last another 30 years (or longer). =C2-It seems to me that it would be best not to drill out the holes, but instead to use a snug wood dowel and leaving any remaining fibers inside th e hole.=C2- Am I wrong?=C2-Is there any reason I shouldn't use a hardwo od dowel (like oak)?=C2- It seems like this would give more durable, long er lasting=C2-screw holes/threads.=C2-Any other thoughts would be appre ======= ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:51 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: the blonde Pietenpoler We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly though... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:34 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder horn hole spacing Thanks guys. I am fabricating my own tail wheel assembly now and wanted to know the rudder horn size to gauge my tail wheel horn off of. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:49 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: the blonde Pietenpoler OK....now back to something unproductive! Oscar, you made my day... Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 9:15 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: the blonde Pietenpoler We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly though... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: the blonde Pietenpoler From: Ryan Mueller Hahahaha....nice job Oscar! Ryan do not archive On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. > So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up > with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: > > http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 > > Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly > though... > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the blonde Pietenpoler From: "j_dunavin" "Crank Snapping Corvair" ??? :x She just lost her chance. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316783#316783 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:19 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: worn out screw holes in wood I've heard the same fix (Frank Pavliga I think). Inject crazy glue/hot stuff, (the thin stuff, not the gel) into the hole and let cure and I've heard they're better than new as the wood is now much stronger. Douwe Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:52 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: the blonde Pietenpoler That's a good one,- Jake thought he was watching cartoons. - Shad We were unable to go to the Reklaw fly-in due to weather. So, I wasted my time playing movie producer and came up with a Pietenpol short-subject extra, 2:45 long: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7436957 Couldn't get my actors to pronounce the names properly though... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:58:35 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: worn out screw holes in wood Model airplane "CA" glue works well to. I=99ve heard the same fix (Frank Pavliga I think).=C2- Inject crazy glue/hot stuff, (the thin stuff, not the gel) into the hole and let cure a nd I=99ve heard they=99re better than new as the wood is now mu ch stronger. =C2- Douwe =C2- Do not archive =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Repairing wood screw holes From: Rick Holland Or drill the hole a little bigger, screw in a barrel nut and use a machine screw. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Steve Ruse wrote: > My 28 year old, 600 hour plane has a few screw holes that are wearing > out. I have a sheetmetal cover over the nose tank, screwed to the longerons > on each side with 3/8" long screws. Despite my best efforts to barely > torque these screws, some of them have become quite loose, and on my last > flight I actually lost a screw. So, it is time to fix them. What is the > best technique here? > > Gluing a snug-fitting dowel rod into the hole, then cutting and sanding it > flush seems like it would work. Should I use T-88, or would Type II PVA > (wood glue) be good? Type II would be easier but if T-88 is better that is > what I want. I'd like the repairs to last another 30 years (or longer). > > It seems to me that it would be best not to drill out the holes, but > instead to use a snug wood dowel and leaving any remaining fibers inside the > hole. Am I wrong? > > Is there any reason I shouldn't use a hardwood dowel (like oak)? It seems > like this would give more durable, longer lasting screw holes/threads. > > Any other thoughts would be appreciated. > > Steve Ruse > Norman, OK > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:53 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II Well, I've finally gotten my actors to get their pronunciations straightened out, and the young lady has realized that there are six jugs on a Corvair now... http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7441025/ Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:48 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Blonde Pietenpoler- Take II BEST. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.