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1. 04:31 AM - Re: Resaw Options (bender)
2. 04:35 AM - Re: Getting started (bender)
3. 05:45 AM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Clayton Harper)
4. 06:07 AM - ford cranks (bender)
5. 06:36 AM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Tucker)
6. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Doin' Some Ribs (Gary Boothe)
7. 06:53 AM - McCormick Spruce (tbyh@aol.com)
8. 08:50 AM - Re: Doin' Some Ribs (flea)
9. 10:10 AM - Last trips for the year (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
10. 10:29 AM - Re: Last trips for the year (Ryan Mueller)
11. 12:29 PM - Re: Last trips for the year (kevinpurtee)
12. 12:32 PM - Re: Leading edge material (kevinpurtee)
13. 12:45 PM - Re: Last trips for the year (Gary Boothe)
14. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Last trips for the year (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
15. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Last trips for the year (Jim Markle)
16. 06:04 PM - Re: Model A, more pics (Clayton Harper)
17. 07:56 PM - Re: Getting started-info to all newbies on ribs (John Fay)
18. 10:20 PM - Re: Model A, more pics (Billy McCaskill)
19. 10:30 PM - Re: Re: Getting started-info to all newbies on ribs (amsafetyc@aol.com)
20. 11:10 PM - Re: Leading edge material (Robert Perry)
21. 11:12 PM - Re: Leading edge material (Robert Perry)
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| Subject: | Re: Resaw Options |
the 5/4 i picked up was western red cedar.. i decided to use it after seeing that
others had also and looking at tons of wood info. it was a full 5/4 and perfectly
straight grain.. about 25-30 rings per inch.. it's beautiful wood.
I found 5/4 douglas fir and poplar also. I plan to use locally bought wood and
spruce doesn't exist in KY as far as i can tell... I'm an A&P/IA and know that
spruce is the norm.... but i'm comfortable with picking through the lumberyard
for the right stuff for me.
Jeff
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thanks.... the last time i built a plane it took about 16 months... and there were
4 wings.. but only one seat..... i'm hoping brodhead will be sooner than later..call
me crazy but next year could happen.... not that i'm rushing
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Doin' Some Ribs |
Bad joke, circa 1975-1980. Look up "The Captain and Tennile".
I was told once the way to build an airplane was to something on it every day.
Great to see someone your age building a plane.
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Just wondering what the A engine folks think.... i'm thinking counterweighting
the crankshaft is probably the right idea.... but Bernie didn't i'm sure and i'm
betting lots of original crank, babbited engines were flown.. any thoughts
on babbit and weights ?
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Doin' Some Ribs |
Yeah, I showed your post to Captain (my grandpa) and he knew what you were talking
about. Muskrat Love? What's that about?
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| Subject: | Re: Doin' Some Ribs |
Clayton - I got it!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(22 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clayton
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Doin' Some Ribs
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Bad joke, circa 1975-1980. Look up "The Captain and Tennile".
I was told once the way to build an airplane was to something on it every
day. Great to see someone your age building a plane.
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| Subject: | McCormick Spruce |
I purchased my spruce from McCormick's a few years ago. They are nice folk
s and let me look through their stock until I found what I wanted. Was lot
s of fun picking my own lumber. I picked out two rough "planks" I think ab
out 11 or 12 inches wide, 1 inch thick...and about 20 feet long. With only
a little Nissan Frontier I hade them cut the boards so that I had two 14-
foot pieces and two 6-foot pieces. I slid the 14s through the sliding rear
window of the cab and let the rest ride on top of the box. The 6-footers
went inside the box. From those boards I got all my fuselage longerons an
d uprights plus most material for the rudder, elevator, stabilizers...I al
so picked up some plywood from them on the same trip.
So, if you're near McCormicks at Madison, WI, (only a two-hour drive for
me) or a similar supplier, and you can haul the wood, it's a lot of fun
to pick out your own wood -- and the price is right! I'll be going back
to McCormicks to get wing spar material one of these days...That said, I
have nothing against suppliers like Aircraft Spruce and in fact, I later
drove down to Wick's in southern Illinois for more plywood -- but I like
road trips. And they gave me an individual tour of their pipe organ facto
ry! How I'd love to have their workshops, equipment and stock of wood! Eve
n their scraps....
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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1. 12:03 AM - Re: Resaw Options (Kringle)
2. 04:28 AM - Re: Resaw Options (Dangerous Dave)
3. 04:40 AM - Re: Resaw Options (Kringle)
4. 05:02 AM - Re: Getting started (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 05:18 AM - Re: Getting started (echobravo4)
6. 06:00 AM - Re: Resaw Options (bender)
7. 06:33 AM - Re: Resaw Options (gtche98)
8. 07:12 AM - Follow up to welding 4130 (Michael Perez)
9. 08:51 AM - Re: Model A disassembly, Chapter 1 (womenfly2)
10. 09:45 AM - HP being produced? (899PM)
11. 09:56 AM - Re: HP being produced? (helspersew@aol.com)
12. 01:08 PM - Re: Resaw Options (Ben Charvet)
13. 03:42 PM - Leading edge material (Robert Perry)
14. 03:49 PM - Re: Returned Mail: Leading edge material
dpilot88@earthlink.net)
15. 04:04 PM - Re: Leading edge material (Kenneth Howe)
16. 04:04 PM - Re: Resaw Options (Dangerous Dave)
17. 04:16 PM - Mike Cuy DVD (peterk48)
18. 04:39 PM - Re: t-88 mixing tubes (shad bell)
19. 09:08 PM - Re: Leading edge material (Billy McCaskill)
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ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Resaw Options
rom: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
looked at the same thing. I purchased some wood from mcmcormick but deci
ded
o save it for some of the bigger sticks needed. Ordered enough capstrip
to do
y ribs from aircraft Spruce last week.
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rom: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
i,I cut all my capstrips and milled them.Takes 86 to do the 3 piece wing.I
used
1/2- 2"x9"x6' rough cut sitka.You loose about half the wood and it takes
about
hours.Make sure you have the grain laying correctly for a capstrip.
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rom: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
hat is the correct grain orientation for capstrip?
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rom: helspersew@aol.com
eff,
Good for you. A good start on a long, but immensely satisfying road. Keep
at it little by little. I'll see you at Brodhead.
Dan Helsper
oplar Grove, IL.
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rom: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
ent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:33 pm
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Getting started
>
ell I just had to tell someone.. after having a new resaw blade made for
my
tique bandsaw.. and a couple of new tires.. it roared, well, hummed to li
e
d i got 75 sticks 6 foot long and 1/2 x 1/4 cut out today.. got my jig
gether a few days ago.. i feel like i'm about to officially start
ilding..big pile of saw dust
eff :D
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kevinpurtee wrote:
Nice, congrats! There are not too many things better then popping out th
at
irst
ib.
Axel
ell the LAST one feels pretty good too!
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arl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up wh
ere I
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rom: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
picked up five 6 foot long 5/4 x 4 boards... ripped them just over a half
nch..
hen ripped each half by 5/4 piece into 1/4x1/2 .. i think i have
nough..stopped
ounting after 80 pieces. i used a 3/4 blade with 10 teeth per inch
n my band saw
jeff
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rom: "gtche98" <gtche98@gmail.com>
hanks to all for your ideas. Couple of things:
John - I think you bring up a very good point about the work that goes int
o
aking
our own capstrip. I may end up using McCormick for all the wood but the ca
p
trip and just order that from aircraft spruce.
Dave - I am by no means an expert, but is your grain running the right way
? I
ould
ave thought you would want it running in the other direction for strength.
eff - great info. You are the first I have heard mention 5/4 lumber. Was
it a
ull 5/4? Did you get it from McCormick? If I could get 5/4, I would feel
much
ore confident in resawing 3 1/4" sections out of the thickness of the boar
d.
ary
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ubject: Pietenpol-List: Follow up to welding 4130
Since reviewing the replies on here to my first 4130/SS welding post and
looking
round on the web, I understand now why welding the two is a bad idea. Most
laces I saw said then even if welding SS to SS, you should have a professi
onal
o it, if possible. (Which I am not)
I thought I had heard that you cane weld metals with SS filler, maybe that
tarted
he confusion I had with welding SS to other metals.
Anyhoo, the short of it is I am square now and fabricating. Thanks for the
dvice.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A disassembly, Chapter 1
rom: "womenfly2" <keriannprice@hotmail.com>
f the engine quits at 500 ft on takeoff, you'll wish you completely
isassembled
t.
My "A" had a fiber gear. No issues with the teeth.
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an anyone comment on approx HP being produced by my Model A turning a 76-4
2
ooden
rop @ 1960 rpms?
What about actual thrust? Has anyone measured thrust accurately?
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rom: helspersew@aol.com
measured my full-power static thrust at 260 lbs with an "industrial" fis
scale. My prop is 76/46. Static RPM is 1860.
Dan Helsper
oplar Grove, IL.
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ubject: Pietenpol-List: HP being produced?
an anyone comment on approx HP being produced by my Model A turning a 76-
2
oden prop @ 1960 rpms?
hat about actual thrust? Has anyone measured thrust accurately?
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PA MIKE
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ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Resaw Options
y Piet is all Douglas Fir, but I bought 1 x 6 boards (finished out to
bout 3/4 in) then planed them down to 1/2 inch, then ripped the 1/4 rib
aps. I bought my rib boards at Lowe's over a period of months to find
he best close grained boards, and most had horizontal grain. After I
ut my strips most had end grain and came out nice. Lots cheaper than
rdering cap strips too.
Ben
n 10/25/2010 10:30 PM, gtche98 wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gtche98"<gtche98@gmail.com>
Question for those that milled their own cap strip, or are more experienc
ed in
esawing than I am. I have been thinking lately about purchasing my spruce
rom McCormick in Madison, and understand that they are selling 1" thick ro
ugh
ut.
If that is the case, how many "layers" of cap strip could I resaw out of
a 1"
hick board? I know I could get 2. Is it possible (for an amateur) to get
3
ayers? With the thickness of the band saw blade, and the need to run every
thing
hrough the planner, I am worried that 3/32" of waste between layers wont
e enough. See attached picture that shows what I am talking about.
Thanks in advance for your expertise!
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am laying out my full size rib diagram for the GAU 612 airfoil and I
as wondering what most people are using for leading and trailing edge
aterial. Ready to buy some spruce and get going!
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haven't gotten the LE/TE material yet. When the time comes I will probabl
y
ook
t the using a piece of molding from Home Despot (or other DIY big-box stor
e)
or the TE. It's been talked about here in the past if you search the archi
ves.
'm not sure if the ripped section from a stair railing will work as well
for
he
iblett LE section as it has for people building the original Piet section.
f that doesn't work then I'll probably search the lumber stacks to find so
me
traight grain fir or hemlock and plane it to shape. Use a table saw to rip
it
lose to shape then hand-plane it to the final contour. After finally learn
ing
ow to correctly sharpen and set up a hand plane a few years ago in a clas
s
y a local furniture builder, I look forward to planing the leading edge.
What
etter way to make some parts for your plane than with a plane?
Ken
On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Robert Perry wrote:
>
I am laying out my full size rib diagram for the GAU 612 airfoil and I wa
s
ondering
hat most people are using for leading and trailing edge material. Ready
o buy some spruce and get going!
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i,The grain should run as shown in the picture.The compresive strength is
hat way.That is how it is shown in the old CAA and FAA books,Runs just lik
e
our
par.Your wing needs compresive strength.I have seen it run the other way
and
t cracks along the grain lines and the ribs can split.Hope this helps.Dave
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rom: "peterk48" <peterk48@msn.com>
ince I was prompt to announce on here that my first "Cuy" DVD did not work
, I
hink it only fair to make sure everyone knows that Mike sent me a new one
oday.
am enjoying it as you read. Thanks Mike
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ete
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ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: t-88 mixing tubes
Are they the "swirly" mixing tubes where you use epoxy cartriges, and a gu
n
- We have those at work, they are nice, but would waste a lot building r
bs.- The glue sets up in the mixing tubes and they are a 1 time use.-
hey would be nice however doing something like the plywood sides on the fu
elage.
had
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ubject: Pietenpol-List: t-88 mixing tubes
Anyone ever use the t-88 mixing tubes that is advertised on aircraft spruc
e
- I am gonna try to spend a little more time at the house vs the hangar
uilding the ribs this winter.- I have everything cut out and would enjoy
something that was not too messy to work with while sitting on the couch
w
tching TV with the wife.
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rom: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
did a most of the shaping of my leading and trainling edges on the tail
ection
ith a hand plane. I roughed it in close to shape on the table saw, and th
en
inalized it with a small, very sharp and nicely tuned plane and did it in
ery short order. Probably a lot quicker than trying to clamp everything
down
nd set up a router to to shape the parts. Using a sharp and tuned up hand
lane
s a very satisfying thing in and of itself, but even more so when using
t to build airplane parts!
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rbana, IL
ail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Doin' Some Ribs |
Muskrat love is how archeologists will know that the seventies were nothing more
than a drug induced hallucination.
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| Subject: | Last trips for the year |
well looks like the last trips of the year are approaching,
Southern California right now and again next, out on 11/2 till 11/6
Tulsa week of 11/15
Chicago week of 11/29
Thought I would share those dates with the list in hopes of getting
together for a few beets and what ever, or not! Either way that becomes the
precursor to Buildapalooza 2010!
As my learned counsel and attorney has advised making sawdust in copious
amounts is highly recommended, I need the therapy, thanks Dan, I needed that!
Let me now if you're interested.
John
Do not arvchive
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| Subject: | Re: Last trips for the year |
You better be stopping by for a visit to see the new place! :)
Ryan
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM, <AMsafetyC@aol.com> wrote:
> well looks like the last trips of the year are approaching,
>
> Southern California right now and again next, out on 11/2 till 11/6
> Tulsa week of 11/15
> Chicago week of 11/29
>
> Thought I would share those dates with the list in hopes of getting
> together for a few beets and what ever, or not! Either way that becomes the
> precursor to Buildapalooza 2010!
>
> As my learned counsel and attorney has advised making sawdust in copious
> amounts is highly recommended, I need the therapy, thanks Dan, I needed
> that!
>
> Let me now if you're interested.
>
>
> John
>
> Do not arvchive
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Last trips for the year |
I highly recommend hosting John for a visit. He'll bring you $1000 for being his
friend.
Axel
do not archive
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Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge material |
Ditto. Had rarely used a hand plane until I started walking back and forth in
front of the wing shaping the leading edge. Came out great.
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Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Last trips for the year |
I need that attorney's name? Does he also do marriage counseling?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(22 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Last trips for the year
well looks like the last trips of the year are approaching,
Southern California right now and again next, out on 11/2 till 11/6
Tulsa week of 11/15
Chicago week of 11/29
Thought I would share those dates with the list in hopes of getting together
for a few beets and what ever, or not! Either way that becomes the precursor
to Buildapalooza 2010!
As my learned counsel and attorney has advised making sawdust in copious
amounts is highly recommended, I need the therapy, thanks Dan, I needed
that!
Let me now if you're interested.
John
Do not arvchive
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| Subject: | Re: Last trips for the year |
Its true I got the best friends money can buy fortunately I got them for
much less than advertised which reminds me. Never pay retail!
John
But do not archive that as I want no lingering proof for which I can be
held responsible to or for.
In a message dated 10/27/2010 3:29:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kevin.purtee@us.army.mil writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "kevinpurtee"
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
I highly recommend hosting John for a visit. He'll bring you $1000 for
being his friend.
Axel
do not archive
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Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Last trips for the year |
Hey wait just a minute, I had to give HIM $1000 to be MY friend....I think I paid
full retail...
Well, at least now I know what he did with the money....
-----Original Message-----
>From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>Sent: Oct 27, 2010 2:26 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Last trips for the year
>
>
>I highly recommend hosting John for a visit. He'll bring you $1000 for being
his friend.
>
>Axel
>
>do not archive
>
>--------
>Kevin Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317237#317237
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| Subject: | Re: Model A, more pics |
Saw the pics. What let go?
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| Subject: | Re: Getting started-info to all newbies on ribs |
If you are getting ready to build ribs there is an excellent source of
information that has not been mentioned on this list before. Everyone
knows you need the books by Tony Bingelis, but the best article he
wrote on building ribs is in the February, 1994 issue of Sport
Aviation, page 79. I used the info in this article as my main source
for building the ribs. There are many great ideas and options
described there.
At the end of it, he also references an earlier article he wrote in
September, 1976.
These articles are available online for EAA members from their website.
John Fay
in Peoria
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| Subject: | Re: Model A, more pics |
There was a partial failure of the aluminum camshaft gear. Luckily the engine
continued running until Dan was able to successfully land the plane without incident.
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Getting started-info to all newbies on ribs |
Another great resource is Dan Halsper. He is the keeper of the lost papers
or Bernard Pietenpol. They are protected in Dans vault which he has been
known to open once each year. You may be able to save up all questions
Pietenpol and ask Dan when the time comes around again. He's a good natured
guy and will work hard to research the answers and provide them as
requested. Just don't ask him to open the vault between scheduled openings.
He gets a bit testy when you do and may put you at the bottom of his
research list and you never want to be at the bottom lost with Dan.
The last time that happened was 15 years ago. There's a good chance Dan may
give him an answer next year.
Meanwhile the guy has been languishing over epoxy or elmers. Poor soul.
Then there was some poor OKy from prior who now travels the countryside like
Kane from King fu seeking out projects to learn from taking ideas and
sleeping in hangars and workshops and selling used tools. Going from town to
town like the ......,do I dare say it. The unglued.
Mike P has tried to help with his tips but Kane the unglued can never find
piece until Dan opens the vault.
Please do not archive as i do not have any desire to anger Dan and be stuck
traveling with Qui tool Kane of oklahoma
John
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-----Original message-----
From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 28, 2010 02:56:51 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Getting started-info to all newbies on ribs
If you are getting ready to build ribs there is an excellent source of
information that has not been mentioned on this list before. Everyone
knows you need the books by Tony Bingelis, but the best article he
wrote on building ribs is in the February, 1994 issue of Sport
Aviation, page 79. I used the info in this article as my main source
for building the ribs. There are many great ideas and options
described there.
At the end of it, he also references an earlier article he wrote in
September, 1976.
These articles are available online for EAA members from their website.
John Fay
in Peoria
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge material |
Ken,
Sounds like fun! Thanks for the info.
Bob Perry
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge material |
That's probably why they call it a plane! Thanks for the info.
Bob
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