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2. 07:16 AM - Re: Okoume (tkreiner)
3. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (Jack)
4. 08:01 AM - Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (K5YAC)
5. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (gboothe5@comcast.net)
6. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (Jim Markle)
7. 12:59 PM - Space, or lack there of (Catdesigns)
8. 01:21 PM - Re: Space, or lack there of (Ben Charvet)
9. 01:22 PM - Re: Space, or lack there of (K5YAC)
10. 01:57 PM - Re: Space, or lack there of (Mild Bill)
11. 02:35 PM - Re: Space, or lack there of (Jim Boyer)
12. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Space, or lack there of (Jim Boyer)
13. 03:26 PM - Re: Making Progress (Jim Boyer)
14. 03:33 PM - Re: Space, or lack there of (gboothe5@comcast.net)
15. 05:51 PM - Re: Making Progress (Dangerous Dave)
16. 10:39 PM - Re: Re: Fw: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! |
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels |
I know Halloween was yesterday, so forgive me for the scary photo...
With a 10-13/16" radius (21-5/8" width at seat back), I have just enough space
to allow for proper placement of the seat belt. I know this doesn't do much to
illustrate how the taller seat back might actually look... I'll have to post
some of those photos later on. In the current form, the front of my turtle deck
will be 4-13/16" taller than plans. Please don't send a lynch mob. :-)
Oh, I am sitting on a makeshift seat that has me ~5" off the floor of the fuse.
I hope this was a good estimate as the plans show the front of the seat to be
6" off the floor at the front, and then another 1" or so when I count the seat
top, which I plan to make with a wicker weave. I should be in the ballpark...
I hope.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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My Okume arrived as well, and it's in very nice condition; attached to a 1/4 in
thk, sheet of particle or ply, and wrapped in cardboard.
As far as I can tell, first quality, no problems.
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels |
Mark don't forget the reduced clearance above for entry and exit.
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:13 AM, "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
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> I know Halloween was yesterday, so forgive me for the scary photo...
>
> With a 10-13/16" radius (21-5/8" width at seat back), I have just enough space
to allow for proper placement of the seat belt. I know this doesn't do much
to illustrate how the taller seat back might actually look... I'll have to post
some of those photos later on. In the current form, the front of my turtle
deck will be 4-13/16" taller than plans. Please don't send a lynch mob. :-)
>
> Oh, I am sitting on a makeshift seat that has me ~5" off the floor of the fuse.
I hope this was a good estimate as the plans show the front of the seat to
be 6" off the floor at the front, and then another 1" or so when I count the
seat top, which I plan to make with a wicker weave. I should be in the ballpark...
I hope.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels |
I'm planning to cut out my center section.
I know, I know... somebody get a rope!!
jack(at)textors.com wrote:
> Mark don't forget the reduced clearance above for entry and exit.
>
> Jack Textor
> Sent from my iPhone
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels |
Not at all! You sound like an intelligent, thoughtful builder, with excellent taste!
Gary Boothe
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------Original Message------
From: K5YAC
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels
Sent: Nov 1, 2010 7:59 AM
I'm planning to cut out my center section.
I know, I know... somebody get a rope!!
jack(at)textors.com wrote:
> Mark don't forget the reduced clearance above for entry and exit.
>
> Jack Textor
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels |
I'm thinking that's not such a bad idea. I had hoped to leave my center section
"as is" with no notch/opening but have just about decided an opening will be
needed. So I'll probably be doing the same thing!
It's just a shame the extra work will move my "first flight" date back a week or
so.... :-)
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
>Sent: Nov 1, 2010 7:59 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels
>
>
>I'm planning to cut out my center section.
>
>I know, I know... somebody get a rope!!
>
>
>jack(at)textors.com wrote:
>> Mark don't forget the reduced clearance above for entry and exit.
>>
>> Jack Textor
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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>Mark Chouinard
>Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317751#317751
>
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| Subject: | Space, or lack there of |
Space, or lack there of
By last weekend I had promised my wife I would have the wings out of the way so
she could park her van in the garage during the winter. (Hey, it rains in California
sometimes too.) Saturday between soccer games and family Halloween parties
I hoisted one wing up to the ceiling of the garage into the spot where I
had long planed to store the wings. And I might add the only good place I have
to put them.
In my garage I have 10 foot high unfinished ceilings with two 8-foot light fixtures
(one on each side) and a garage door opener attached to the ceiling joists.
Fortunately, I had just enough clearance between the light fixture and the
garage door opener for a wing to fit. But what about the garage door that rolls
up? I measured 10 inches of clearance between the ceiling joist and the track.
Taking into account for the thickness of the door and the 7 inch thickness
of the wing I figured it was tight but it would fit. I raised the door by hand
to check the clearance, and being confidant it would be ok I didnt have a
second pair of eyes watching the top of the door. I raised the door to the point
where the door would stay up by its self, about 4 feet. Then I looked up.
The wing hung down about to of an inch too low and the door was only a whisker
away from crashing into the first wing rib, YEIKS!
Plan B
Originally I had the wing hanging upside down. I figured that if I hung it right
side up, the top of the wing rib could go above the bottom of the joist, and
I could gain another inch of clearance. So down comes the wing. Did I mention
Im doing this all by myself and in a cramped garage due to these large wings
taking up all the space? So down comes the wing, flip it over without dropping
it, spin it around without whacking anything, raise it up, tie it up and
????? DANG! I forgot about the wing strut bracket that hangs down below the wing
and the plywood leading edge that prevents me from getting the spar tight
to the ceiling. Needless to say, this did not work either. Down comes the wing
again.
Plan C
At this point my wife mentioned that she would not mind them hanging in the living
room if I used some cool industrial cables and hooks. I dont want to do this
for a whole host of reasons but it was nice of her to offer.
Plan D
I could store them at Gary Boothes house because he isnt even done with his wing
ribs yet but something tells me my wings will mysteriously disappear about the
same time Gary finishes the wings he has been building in secret.
Plan E
The only other possible option is the ceiling at the front of the garage but this
involves moving the light fixtures, associated electrical wires and will block
access to the fuselage that is hanging up higher in the rafters. Also, this
area does not have room to store them side by side so they will need to be
stacked one on top of the other and thus hang down rather low right outside the
door that leads to the house. I should mention here that the floor in the house
is 2 feet taller than the garage floor. Some of you more vertically challenged
people will not be bothered by this however being on the taller side I
have problems with low hanging objects and the softness of my head. I had time
to get the lights moved before the party but have yet to try to hang the wings.
Tonight, I will find out if this location will work. If not, I dont know what
I will do.
Chris
Go Giants!
and do not archive
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Space, or lack there of |
Its time to join the local EAA chapter and develop some friends with
hangars...Those wings would stand up in the back of mine with no problem.
Ben
On 11/1/2010 3:57 PM, Catdesigns wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesigns"<Catdesigns@att.net>
>
> Space, or lack there of
>
> By last weekend I had promised my wife I would have the wings out of the way
so she could park her van in the garage during the winter. (Hey, it rains in
California sometimes too.) Saturday between soccer games and family Halloween
parties I hoisted one wing up to the ceiling of the garage into the spot where
I had long planed to store the wings. And I might add the only good place I
have to put them.
>
> In my garage I have 10 foot high unfinished ceilings with two 8-foot light fixtures
(one on each side) and a garage door opener attached to the ceiling joists.
Fortunately, I had just enough clearance between the light fixture and the
garage door opener for a wing to fit. But what about the garage door that rolls
up? I measured 10 inches of clearance between the ceiling joist and the
track. Taking into account for the thickness of the door and the 7 inch thickness
of the wing I figured it was tight but it would fit. I raised the door by
hand to check the clearance, and being confidant it would be ok I didnt have
a second pair of eyes watching the top of the door. I raised the door to the point
where the door would stay up by its self, about 4 feet. Then I looked up.
The wing hung down about to of an inch too low and the door was only a whisker
away from crashing into the first wing rib, YEIKS!
>
> Plan B
>
> Originally I had the wing hanging upside down. I figured that if I hung it right
side up, the top of the wing rib could go above the bottom of the joist,
and I could gain another inch of clearance. So down comes the wing. Did I mention
Im doing this all by myself and in a cramped garage due to these large wings
taking up all the space? So down comes the wing, flip it over without dropping
it, spin it around without whacking anything, raise it up, tie it up and
????? DANG! I forgot about the wing strut bracket that hangs down below the
wing and the plywood leading edge that prevents me from getting the spar tight
to the ceiling. Needless to say, this did not work either. Down comes the
wing again.
>
> Plan C
>
> At this point my wife mentioned that she would not mind them hanging in the living
room if I used some cool industrial cables and hooks. I dont want to do
this for a whole host of reasons but it was nice of her to offer.
>
> Plan D
>
> I could store them at Gary Boothes house because he isnt even done with his wing
ribs yet but something tells me my wings will mysteriously disappear about
the same time Gary finishes the wings he has been building in secret.
>
> Plan E
>
> The only other possible option is the ceiling at the front of the garage but
this involves moving the light fixtures, associated electrical wires and will
block access to the fuselage that is hanging up higher in the rafters. Also,
this area does not have room to store them side by side so they will need to be
stacked one on top of the other and thus hang down rather low right outside
the door that leads to the house. I should mention here that the floor in the
house is 2 feet taller than the garage floor. Some of you more vertically challenged
people will not be bothered by this however being on the taller side
I have problems with low hanging objects and the softness of my head. I had time
to get the lights moved before the party but have yet to try to hang the wings.
Tonight, I will find out if this location will work. If not, I dont know
what I will do.
>
>
> Chris
>
> Go Giants!
>
> and do not archive
>
> --------
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317783#317783
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Space, or lack there of |
Plan F
Rent a storage facility or hangar.
Plan G
Build a shop.
Plan H
Move.
Go Rangers!
[Laughing]
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Space, or lack there of |
It's easy.
Plan E. Just wear a helmet when going in and out of the garage.
Unless your family is a statistical anomaly, your wife is shorter than you, so
she won't be troubled by your troubles in this regard....
Go Giants? We need a head-scratching emoticon. What's a Californian doing rooting
for Eli Manning and his team? [Rolling Eyes]
Oh, wait a minute. Wrong sport.
Never mind. :D
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Bill Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Space, or lack there of |
Hi Chris,
Sounds like a problem I have also. Maybe if asked politely Gary would be willing
to hang wings in his garage. I'm sure he would never take advantage of you by
using your wings on his Piet! Mybe you could color code them?
Jim B.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 12:57:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Space, or lack there of
Space, or lack there of
By last weekend I had promised my wife I would have the wings out of the way so
she could park her van in the garage during the winter. (Hey, it rains in California
sometimes too.) Saturday between soccer games and family Halloween parties
I hoisted one wing up to the ceiling of the garage into the spot where I
had long planed to store the wings. And I might add the only good place I have
to put them.
In my garage I have 10 foot high unfinished ceilings with two 8-foot light fixtures
(one on each side) and a garage door opener attached to the ceiling joists.
Fortunately, I had just enough clearance between the light fixture and the
garage door opener for a wing to fit. But what about the garage door that rolls
up? I measured 10 inches of clearance between the ceiling joist and the track.
Taking into account for the thickness of the door and the 7 inch thickness
of the wing I figured it was tight but it would fit. I raised the door by hand
to check the clearance, and being confidant it would be ok I didnt have a
second pair of eyes watching the top of the door. I raised the door to the point
where the door would stay up by its self, about 4 feet. Then I looked up.
The wing hung down about to of an inch too low and the door was only a whisker
away from crashing into the first wing rib, YEIKS!
Plan B
Originally I had the wing hanging upside down. I figured that if I hung it right
side up, the top of the wing rib could go above the bottom of the joist, and
I could gain another inch of clearance. So down comes the wing. Did I mention
Im doing this all by myself and in a cramped garage due to these large wings
taking up all the space? So down comes the wing, flip it over without dropping
it, spin it around without whacking anything, raise it up, tie it up and
????? DANG! I forgot about the wing strut bracket that hangs down below the wing
and the plywood leading edge that prevents me from getting the spar tight
to the ceiling. Needless to say, this did not work either. Down comes the wing
again.
Plan C
At this point my wife mentioned that she would not mind them hanging in the living
room if I used some cool industrial cables and hooks. I dont want to do this
for a whole host of reasons but it was nice of her to offer.
Plan D
I could store them at Gary Boothes house because he isnt even done with his wing
ribs yet but something tells me my wings will mysteriously disappear about the
same time Gary finishes the wings he has been building in secret.
Plan E
The only other possible option is the ceiling at the front of the garage but this
involves moving the light fixtures, associated electrical wires and will block
access to the fuselage that is hanging up higher in the rafters. Also, this
area does not have room to store them side by side so they will need to be
stacked one on top of the other and thus hang down rather low right outside the
door that leads to the house. I should mention here that the floor in the house
is 2 feet taller than the garage floor. Some of you more vertically challenged
people will not be bothered by this however being on the taller side I
have problems with low hanging objects and the softness of my head. I had time
to get the lights moved before the party but have yet to try to hang the wings.
Tonight, I will find out if this location will work. If not, I dont know what
I will do.
Chris
Go Giants!
and do not archive
--------
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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Not to worry; the Rangers are gone!
Jim B.
Way to go Giants
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----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 1:20:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Space, or lack there of
Plan F
Rent a storage facility or hangar.
Plan G
Build a shop.
Plan H
Move.
Go Rangers!
[Laughing]
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Making Progress |
Hey Dave,
Looks very good. I like the aluminium cowlings. Did you use a piece of aluminium
angle fastened to the longerons to cleco the cowlings? Looks like only a minium
of screws into the longerons that way.
Good work,
Jim B.
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From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:26:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making Progress
Howdy,here are some pics of this weekends progress.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Space, or lack there of |
Chris,
Plan D is a bad idea for 2 reasons:
1) Just ask Mike Weaver and Ryan M - I seriously doubt if your wings are stressed
for my throbbing, 100hp Corvair; 2) Even if I did put them on my plane, they'd
probably be plumb worn out by the time your fuse was ready! ;-)
Seriously, I've seen your 'hanger' and you are very good at stuffing 2lbs of horse
manure in 1lb sack, but it's time to get drastic! Just cut out 2 consecutive
joists and you have plenty of room to pull the wings up in to the hole. Leave
the rafters in. I know this will work for 2 reasons: 1) your roof is overdesigned
(all roofs are); 2) I saw them do this on "The Great Escape."
Always glad to help,
Gary
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Hi Chris,
Sounds like a problem I have also. Maybe if asked politely Gary would be willing
to hang wings in his garage. I'm sure he would never take advantage of you by
using your wings on his Piet! Mybe you could color code them?
Jim B.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 12:57:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Space, or lack there of
Space, or lack there of
By last weekend I had promised my wife I would have the wings out of the way so
she could park her van in the garage during the winter. (Hey, it rains in California
sometimes too.) Saturday between soccer games and family Halloween parties
I hoisted one wing up to the ceiling of the garage into the spot where I
had long planed to store the wings. And I might add the only good place I have
to put them.
In my garage I have 10 foot high unfinished ceilings with two 8-foot light fixtures
(one on each side) and a garage door opener attached to the ceiling joists.
Fortunately, I had just enough clearance between the light fixture and the
garage door opener for a wing to fit. But what about the garage door that rolls
up? I measured 10 inches of clearance between the ceiling joist and the track.
Taking into account for the thickness of the door and the 7 inch thickness
of the wing I figured it was tight but it would fit. I raised the door by hand
to check the clearance, and being confidant it would be ok I didnt have a
second pair of eyes watching the top of the door. I raised the door to the point
where the door would stay up by its self, about 4 feet. Then I looked up.
The wing hung down about to of an inch too low and the door was only a whisker
away from crashing into the first wing rib, YEIKS!
Plan B
Originally I had the wing hanging upside down. I figured that if I hung it right
side up, the top of the wing rib could go above the bottom of the joist, and
I could gain another inch of clearance. So down comes the wing. Did I mention
Im doing this all by myself and in a cramped garage due to these large wings
taking up all the space? So down comes the wing, flip it over without dropping
it, spin it around without whacking anything, raise it up, tie it up and
????? DANG! I forgot about the wing strut bracket that hangs down below the wing
and the plywood leading edge that prevents me from getting the spar tight
to the ceiling. Needless to say, this did not work either. Down comes the wing
again.
Plan C
At this point my wife mentioned that she would not mind them hanging in the living
room if I used some cool industrial cables and hooks. I dont want to do this
for a whole host of reasons but it was nice of her to offer.
Plan D
I could store them at Gary Boothes house because he isnt even done with his wing
ribs yet but something tells me my wings will mysteriously disappear about the
same time Gary finishes the wings he has been building in secret.
Plan E
The only other possible option is the ceiling at the front of the garage but this
involves moving the light fixtures, associated electrical wires and will block
access to the fuselage that is hanging up higher in the rafters. Also, this
area does not have room to store them side by side so they will need to be
stacked one on top of the other and thus hang down rather low right outside the
door that leads to the house. I should mention here that the floor in the house
is 2 feet taller than the garage floor. Some of you more vertically challenged
people will not be bothered by this however being on the taller side I
have problems with low hanging objects and the softness of my head. I had time
to get the lights moved before the party but have yet to try to hang the wings.
Tonight, I will find out if this location will work. If not, I dont know what
I will do.
Chris
Go Giants!
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Making Progress |
Jim,The angle seemed to be the hot ticket.I used stainless machine screws about
8" apart and will rivet it all together with AN470A's.Used .050 2024 T-3 Alclad,figered
I just bend up anything thinner.Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels |
Sorry Gary, my ex would disagree with you. :-)
Apparently I don't know anything. :-)
Putting stuff down on sticky pads and pasting
them to my forehead didn't seem to help either!
Clif
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I doubt if Cliff looked it up..he just knows stuff!
Gary Boothe
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