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     1. 12:46 AM - Re: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (Clif Dawson)
     2. 05:08 AM - Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! (Gene Rambo)
     3. 06:40 AM - Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (K5YAC)
     4. 06:44 AM - Re: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! (Dan Yocum)
     5. 11:50 AM - Re: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     6. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: Making Progress (Jim Boyer)
     7. 03:15 PM - paint matching and auto enamel (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 04:36 PM - Re: paint matching and auto enamel (airlion)
     9. 04:42 PM - Re: paint matching and auto enamel (Billy McCaskill)
    10. 05:40 PM - Re: paint matching and auto enamel (Dan Yocum)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels | 
      
      My deck is 9.5" tall. I'm 5' 8". The straps just clear my
      shoulders with my jacket on.
      I could have got another inch by running them through slots
      on the top of the deck and putting little covers over them,
      sort of like those teardrops on radial engine cowlings, like
      on this 195. That would look kinda neat!
      
      Oh yeah, Notice that the deck profile is oval, not round.
      This puts the strap outlets higher while letting the
      overall height be lower. It also fairs the deck/fuselage joint
      almost flush.
      
      Clif
      90% done90% to go.
      
      > (21-5/8" width at seat back), I have just enough space to allow for proper 
      > placement of the seat belt.  >
      > Oh, I am sitting on a makeshift seat that has me ~5" off the floor of the 
      > fuse.  > Mark Chouinard
      
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| Subject:  | Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! | 
      
      
      See Barnstormers.com=2C the Bucker used in TGWP is for sale!!  We should al
      l pool together and buy it!!!!!
      
      Gene 		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels | 
      
      
      Beautiful work Clif, and neat suggestions.  I'll keep those in mind in the event
      that I need to go higher.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317852#317852
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! | 
      
      
      I just saw this somewhere else in the last couple of weeks with a 
      current picture - "needs restoration" is an understatement.
      
      Dan
      
      do not archive
      
      On 11/02/2010 07:06 AM, Gene Rambo wrote:
      >
      > See Barnstormers.com, the Bucker used in TGWP is for sale!! We should
      > all pool together and buy it!!!!!
      >
      > Gene
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! | 
      
      So where is the link?  Better yet where's Waldo?
      
      Do not archive unless you know where Waldo is?
      
      John
      
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      -----Original message-----
      From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
      Sent: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 13:44:18 GMT+00:00
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!!
      
      
      I just saw this somewhere else in the last couple of weeks with a 
      current picture - "needs restoration" is an understatement.
      
      Dan
      
      do not archive
      
      On 11/02/2010 07:06 AM, Gene Rambo wrote:
      >
      > See Barnstormers.com, the Bucker used in TGWP is for sale!! We should
      > all pool together and buy it!!!!!
      >
      > Gene
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Making Progress | 
      
      
      Dave,
      It looks very good. I like the way you terminated the cowling for the rear cockpit
      too. I was wondering how big a curve to use and yours is looking about right.
      thanks again,
      Jim B.
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 5:48:35 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making Progress
      
      
      Jim,The angle seemed to be the hot ticket.I used stainless machine screws about
      8" apart and will rivet it all together with AN470A's.Used .050 2024 T-3 Alclad,figered
      I just bend up anything thinner.Dave
      
      --------
      Building a Piet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317812#317812
      
      
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| Subject:  | paint matching and auto enamel | 
      
      Hey,
      
      
      My new paintjob isn't going to involved lots of color, but rather the nose,
      turtle decking and edging of all tail surfaces and wings.  I'm also going
      with a rather unusual green, and thought that I'd simply get some latex
      mixed up, but then I need to find an easy way to match some enamel for the
      cowling and metal parts.
      
      
      Can I go to an auto parts store, or an auto paint shop and have them match
      my latex color chip?  And. if I use car enamel, might that not be too
      brittle?  Can they leave some of the hardeners out?
      
      
      Thanks to Don E, I know a place which will mix up Randolph enamel, but they
      want a huge price and I only need a couple of quarts.
      
      
      Any thoughts??
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: paint matching and auto enamel | 
      
      Douwe. I had  the same problem. Latex on everything except the nose, and th
      en I =0Aused auto enamel on the nose. It was a two part and it just did not
       look right =0AToo shiney and I could not get a match. So then I did a good
       sanding job and put =0Aa primer on that would hold the latex on and it loo
      ks just fine. Everything =0Arolled or brushed of course. I have flown it a 
      couple of hours and heat does not =0Aseem to affect it. I was at sun n fun 
      when your wings were being taken apart and =0AI was wondering if they are b
      ack together. I used Benjaman Mores latex house =0Apaint. How about my spel
      ling? Cheers, Gardiner Mason=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________
      =0AFrom: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>=0ATo: pietenpolgroup 
      <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:19:24 PM=0AS
      ubject: Pietenpol-List: paint matching and auto enamel=0A=0A =0AHey,=0A =0A
      My new paintjob isn=99t going to involved lots of color, but rather t
      he nose, =0Aturtle decking and edging of all tail surfaces and wings.  I
      =99m also going with a =0Arather unusual green, and thought that I
      =99d simply get some latex mixed up, but =0Athen I need to find an easy way
       to match some enamel for the cowling and metal =0Aparts.=0A =0ACan I go to
       an auto parts store, or an auto paint shop and have them match my =0Alatex
       color chip?  And if I use car enamel, might that not be too britt
      le?  Can =0Athey leave some of the hardeners out?=0A =0AThanks to Don E, I 
      know a place which will mix up  Randolph enamel, but they =0Awant a huge pr
      ice and I only need a couple of quarts.=0A =0AAny thoughts??=0A =0ADouwe=0A
      ======= =0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: paint matching and auto enamel | 
      
      
      Douwe, most auto paint places will custom blend colors to match a sample that you
      bring to them.  If you are just painting the automotive paint onto aluminum
      or steel, then no need to have them mix in any plasticizer into the paint.  They
      do have such flex additives that they mix in if painting on flexible surfaces
      like plastic car bumpers and such, but it shouldn't be necessary for your
      needs.
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317918#317918
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: paint matching and auto enamel | 
      
      
      The truth comes out about the paint latest paint job on N8031: it's 
      Sherwin Williams auto paint applied over the original latex.  The owner 
      who painted it last had his neighbor add some floetrol to some remnant 
      paint he brought home.  You saw it - it looks pretty good.  Why not just 
      paint your whole plane with the automotive stuff?
      
      Dan
      
      
      On 11/02/2010 05:19 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
      > Hey,
      >
      > My new paintjob isnt going to involved lots of color, but rather the
      > nose, turtle decking and edging of all tail surfaces and wings. Im also
      > going with a rather unusual green, and thought that Id simply get some
      > latex mixed up, but then I need to find an easy way to match some enamel
      > for the cowling and metal parts.
      >
      > Can I go to an auto parts store, or an auto paint shop and have them
      > match my latex color chip? And if I use car enamel, might that not be
      > too brittle? Can they leave some of the hardeners out?
      >
      > Thanks to Don E, I know a place which will mix up Randolph enamel, but
      > they want a huge price and I only need a couple of quarts.
      >
      > Any thoughts??
      >
      > Douwe
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
 
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