---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/02/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:46 AM - Re: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (Clif Dawson) 2. 05:08 AM - Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! (Gene Rambo) 3. 06:40 AM - Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels (K5YAC) 4. 06:44 AM - Re: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! (Dan Yocum) 5. 11:50 AM - Re: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! (amsafetyc@aol.com) 6. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: Making Progress (Jim Boyer) 7. 03:15 PM - paint matching and auto enamel (Douwe Blumberg) 8. 04:36 PM - Re: paint matching and auto enamel (airlion) 9. 04:42 PM - Re: paint matching and auto enamel (Billy McCaskill) 10. 05:40 PM - Re: paint matching and auto enamel (Dan Yocum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:14 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels My deck is 9.5" tall. I'm 5' 8". The straps just clear my shoulders with my jacket on. I could have got another inch by running them through slots on the top of the deck and putting little covers over them, sort of like those teardrops on radial engine cowlings, like on this 195. That would look kinda neat! Oh yeah, Notice that the deck profile is oval, not round. This puts the strap outlets higher while letting the overall height be lower. It also fairs the deck/fuselage joint almost flush. Clif 90% done90% to go. > (21-5/8" width at seat back), I have just enough space to allow for proper > placement of the seat belt. > > Oh, I am sitting on a makeshift seat that has me ~5" off the floor of the > fuse. > Mark Chouinard ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:58 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! See Barnstormers.com=2C the Bucker used in TGWP is for sale!! We should al l pool together and buy it!!!!! Gene ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle Deck and Instrument Panels From: "K5YAC" Beautiful work Clif, and neat suggestions. I'll keep those in mind in the event that I need to go higher. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317852#317852 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:06 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! I just saw this somewhere else in the last couple of weeks with a current picture - "needs restoration" is an understatement. Dan do not archive On 11/02/2010 07:06 AM, Gene Rambo wrote: > > See Barnstormers.com, the Bucker used in TGWP is for sale!! We should > all pool together and buy it!!!!! > > Gene > > * > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:57 AM PST US From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! So where is the link? Better yet where's Waldo? Do not archive unless you know where Waldo is? John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Dan Yocum Sent: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 13:44:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ernst Kessler Bucker for sale!!! I just saw this somewhere else in the last couple of weeks with a current picture - "needs restoration" is an understatement. Dan do not archive On 11/02/2010 07:06 AM, Gene Rambo wrote: > > See Barnstormers.com, the Bucker used in TGWP is for sale!! We should > all pool together and buy it!!!!! > > Gene > > * > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:15 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making Progress Dave, It looks very good. I like the way you terminated the cowling for the rear cockpit too. I was wondering how big a curve to use and yours is looking about right. thanks again, Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dangerous Dave" Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 5:48:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making Progress Jim,The angle seemed to be the hot ticket.I used stainless machine screws about 8" apart and will rivet it all together with AN470A's.Used .050 2024 T-3 Alclad,figered I just bend up anything thinner.Dave -------- Building a Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317812#317812 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:20 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: paint matching and auto enamel Hey, My new paintjob isn't going to involved lots of color, but rather the nose, turtle decking and edging of all tail surfaces and wings. I'm also going with a rather unusual green, and thought that I'd simply get some latex mixed up, but then I need to find an easy way to match some enamel for the cowling and metal parts. Can I go to an auto parts store, or an auto paint shop and have them match my latex color chip? And. if I use car enamel, might that not be too brittle? Can they leave some of the hardeners out? Thanks to Don E, I know a place which will mix up Randolph enamel, but they want a huge price and I only need a couple of quarts. Any thoughts?? Douwe ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:43 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: paint matching and auto enamel Douwe. I had the same problem. Latex on everything except the nose, and th en I =0Aused auto enamel on the nose. It was a two part and it just did not look right =0AToo shiney and I could not get a match. So then I did a good sanding job and put =0Aa primer on that would hold the latex on and it loo ks just fine. Everything =0Arolled or brushed of course. I have flown it a couple of hours and heat does not =0Aseem to affect it. I was at sun n fun when your wings were being taken apart and =0AI was wondering if they are b ack together. I used Benjaman Mores latex house =0Apaint. How about my spel ling? Cheers, Gardiner Mason=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0AFrom: Douwe Blumberg =0ATo: pietenpolgroup =0ASent: Tue, November 2, 2010 6:19:24 PM=0AS ubject: Pietenpol-List: paint matching and auto enamel=0A=0A =0AHey,=0A =0A My new paintjob isn=99t going to involved lots of color, but rather t he nose, =0Aturtle decking and edging of all tail surfaces and wings. I =99m also going with a =0Arather unusual green, and thought that I =99d simply get some latex mixed up, but =0Athen I need to find an easy way to match some enamel for the cowling and metal =0Aparts.=0A =0ACan I go to an auto parts store, or an auto paint shop and have them match my =0Alatex color chip? And if I use car enamel, might that not be too britt le? Can =0Athey leave some of the hardeners out?=0A =0AThanks to Don E, I know a place which will mix up Randolph enamel, but they =0Awant a huge pr ice and I only need a couple of quarts.=0A =0AAny thoughts??=0A =0ADouwe=0A ======= =0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: paint matching and auto enamel From: "Billy McCaskill" Douwe, most auto paint places will custom blend colors to match a sample that you bring to them. If you are just painting the automotive paint onto aluminum or steel, then no need to have them mix in any plasticizer into the paint. They do have such flex additives that they mix in if painting on flexible surfaces like plastic car bumpers and such, but it shouldn't be necessary for your needs. -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317918#317918 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:28 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: paint matching and auto enamel The truth comes out about the paint latest paint job on N8031: it's Sherwin Williams auto paint applied over the original latex. The owner who painted it last had his neighbor add some floetrol to some remnant paint he brought home. You saw it - it looks pretty good. Why not just paint your whole plane with the automotive stuff? Dan On 11/02/2010 05:19 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Hey, > > My new paintjob isnt going to involved lots of color, but rather the > nose, turtle decking and edging of all tail surfaces and wings. Im also > going with a rather unusual green, and thought that Id simply get some > latex mixed up, but then I need to find an easy way to match some enamel > for the cowling and metal parts. > > Can I go to an auto parts store, or an auto paint shop and have them > match my latex color chip? And if I use car enamel, might that not be > too brittle? Can they leave some of the hardeners out? > > Thanks to Don E, I know a place which will mix up Randolph enamel, but > they want a huge price and I only need a couple of quarts. > > Any thoughts?? > > Douwe > > * > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.