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1. 05:09 AM - Re: Fw: Dreams (airlion)
2. 05:28 AM - Re: Neat idea for wire organization in a hanger (taildrags)
3. 06:12 AM - Re: Fw: Dreams (jboatri@emory.edu)
4. 08:25 AM - NOTAMs for Monday around LA California? (LWATCDR)
5. 11:10 AM - Re: Old Kingsbury Aerodrome fly-in (TriScout)
6. 11:49 AM - New Guy Looking for Info/Advise (Mr. Craig)
7. 12:36 PM - Re: Fw: Dreams (Barry Davis)
8. 01:07 PM - Re: New Guy Looking for Info/Advise (Jim Markle)
9. 03:49 PM - Re: Fw: Dreams (airlion)
10. 04:09 PM - Re: New Guy Looking for Info/Advise (Catdesigns)
11. 04:35 PM - Re: Fw: Dreams (jboatri@emory.edu)
12. 11:40 PM - Re: Old Kingsbury Aerodrome fly-in (kevinpurtee)
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Jeff, I didn't make it either as it was too cold. I am flying to barnwell sc for
th e corvair college on thursday for the weekend. Why don't you fly down there
and see what corvairs are all about? There should be about 75 engines being
built wi th the help of Wm. Wynne. Sorry to hear about your dad. Cheers,
Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: "jboatri@emory.edu" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 11:00:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
Sorry I missed you at Peachstate. My dad had a major heart attack Friday
afternoon, so I bombed out to Tulsa post haste. He's doing very well now. We're
working hard to make his home "safe" for him and I should be back in ATL by the
weekend.
J
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| Subject: | Re: Neat idea for wire organization in a hanger |
Steve; that stuff is cable tray. The simplest and cheapest is the so-called "shopping
cart" stuff... picture the wire mesh that shopping carts are made of and
that's what the tray looks like. You can always see what's in the tray that
way and it's easy to get a new cable or service into or out of it through the
holes. Also provides unlimited number of places to ty-rap other things onto
it.
You're right about the electrical, though... careful what you put in with it, and
how it's done. Unless your shop is in Kenya, that is ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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Hey Gardiner,
Thanks for the info. I went to a Corvair College several years ago. It
was a blast. I had a couple of engines nearly all of Wm Wynne's parts
and the manual, but my plans changed when I got a great deal on the
Pietenpol we're flying now. All the engine stuff went to a friend on
the field who plans to put it in a Jodel D11. That project is on hold
while he and his son develop their Reno racing program (all on a
shoestring).
Jeff
Quoting airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>:
>
> Jeff, I didn't make it either as it was too cold. I am flying to
> barnwell sc for
> th e corvair college on thursday for the weekend. Why don't you fly
> down there
> and see what corvairs are all about? There should be about 75 engines being
> built wi th the help of Wm. Wynne. Sorry to hear about your dad. Cheers,
> Gardiner
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jboatri@emory.edu" <jboatri@emory.edu>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 11:00:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
>
>
> Sorry I missed you at Peachstate. My dad had a major heart attack Friday
> afternoon, so I bombed out to Tulsa post haste. He's doing very well
> now. We're
> working hard to make his home "safe" for him and I should be back in
> ATL by the
> weekend.
>
> J
>
>
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| Subject: | NOTAMs for Monday around LA California? |
Did anyone seen any NOTAMS that might have covered that launch on
Monday off the California Coast?
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| Subject: | Re: Old Kingsbury Aerodrome fly-in |
Hmm.. interesting...I might drive down from Dallas(garland) as well, and snoop
around. Penzon if the dragon will cut me loose from the diva's extra ciriculative
activities this weekend. All I'm missing is a prop for my A65-8 GN-1. Might
give me a reason to axe around... maybe meet an a&p or two... or a pietenpoler
or two.
Ler (n2308c)
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| Subject: | New Guy Looking for Info/Advise |
Hello everyone. New Air Camper builder here. I live in SE Kansas.
I have an old original 1932 Flying and Glider Manual. Also the 1932 and 1933 reprints
put out by EAA.
I had a nice conversation with Andrew Pietenpol yesterday and he lined me out on
what drawings I need to order. Money sent.
Originally I was thinking about building the Sky Scout, but logic set in and the
Air Camper is more practical for my intended use. The Scout is really nice looking
though. My intention is to build a basic no frills Air Camper modeled after
Allen Rudolphs's externally except I think I'll go with the 3 piece wings,
unless someone here wants to talk me out of it. :) I'll be using a built Model
A engine from H and H Antique.
I've been a welder for over 30 years and for me the welded steel fuselage looks
to be easier, much quicker to build and lighter in the end.
I would also like to build the vertical fin/rudder and horz stab/elevator out of
4130 tube steel. Andrew said he didn't have any info on this, but said many
have done so. His suggestion was to copy tube diameters and thicknesses from a
J3 Cub and the outline of the Air Camper tail as drawn in the plans. I can do
this, but I'd rather not if I can find someone who has done it before.
Does anyone here have a tube steel tail unit that can help me out? I don't really
want to reinvent the wheel here if I don't have to.
Andrew also said he always adds an inch to the front of the fuselages that he builds
and many times two inches. I'm 6'3", 200 lbs and will probably add the two
inches he recommends.
Any down sided to this modification?
That's enough for now.
Thanks and best regards,
Craig
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Jeff
Sorry to hear about your Dad, it kinda makes you stop and think about life.
Glad to see he is doing ok. Looking at a Piet Fly-in in Carrollton next
Spring but nothing in concrete yet.
Barry Davis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jboatri@emory.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
Hey Gardiner,
Thanks for the info. I went to a Corvair College several years ago. It was a
blast. I had a couple of engines nearly all of Wm Wynne's parts and the
manual, but my plans changed when I got a great deal on the Pietenpol we're
flying now. All the engine stuff went to a friend on the field who plans to
put it in a Jodel D11. That project is on hold while he and his son develop
their Reno racing program (all on a shoestring).
Jeff
Quoting airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>:
>
> Jeff, I didn't make it either as it was too cold. I am flying to
> barnwell sc for th e corvair college on thursday for the weekend. Why
> don't you fly down there and see what corvairs are all about? There
> should be about 75 engines being built wi th the help of Wm. Wynne.
> Sorry to hear about your dad. Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jboatri@emory.edu" <jboatri@emory.edu>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 11:00:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
>
>
> Sorry I missed you at Peachstate. My dad had a major heart attack
> Friday afternoon, so I bombed out to Tulsa post haste. He's doing very
> well now. We're working hard to make his home "safe" for him and I
> should be back in ATL by the weekend.
>
> J
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Guy Looking for Info/Advise |
Hi Craig,
Congrats on getting started on your Piet project! This will be an incredibly unique
and rewarding journey....
I line in NE Oklahoma and there are a couple of Piets flying and under construction
in the area.
If you ever get down around McKinney TX, there's an uncovered steel fuse Piet down
there that might give you some ideas....it's based at Aero Country, west of
McKinney, north of Plano.
And if you get down near the Adair/Pryor area (where I live) or Tulsa, please let
us know so we can get together for a visit.
Jim Markle
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Mr. Craig" <acwelder@cableone.net>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 2:46 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Guy Looking for Info/Advise
>
>
>Hello everyone. New Air Camper builder here. I live in SE Kansas.
>
>I have an old original 1932 Flying and Glider Manual. Also the 1932 and 1933 reprints
put out by EAA.
>
>I had a nice conversation with Andrew Pietenpol yesterday and he lined me out
on what drawings I need to order. Money sent.
>
>Originally I was thinking about building the Sky Scout, but logic set in and the
Air Camper is more practical for my intended use. The Scout is really nice
looking though. My intention is to build a basic no frills Air Camper modeled
after Allen Rudolphs's externally except I think I'll go with the 3 piece wings,
unless someone here wants to talk me out of it. :) I'll be using a built Model
A engine from H and H Antique.
>
>I've been a welder for over 30 years and for me the welded steel fuselage looks
to be easier, much quicker to build and lighter in the end.
>
>I would also like to build the vertical fin/rudder and horz stab/elevator out
of 4130 tube steel. Andrew said he didn't have any info on this, but said many
have done so. His suggestion was to copy tube diameters and thicknesses from
a J3 Cub and the outline of the Air Camper tail as drawn in the plans. I can do
this, but I'd rather not if I can find someone who has done it before.
>
>Does anyone here have a tube steel tail unit that can help me out? I don't really
want to reinvent the wheel here if I don't have to.
>
>Andrew also said he always adds an inch to the front of the fuselages that he
builds and many times two inches. I'm 6'3", 200 lbs and will probably add the
two inches he recommends.
>
>Any down sided to this modification?
>
>That's enough for now.
>
>Thanks and best regards,
>
>Craig
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318757#318757
>
>
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Barry, A Piet fly in next spring would be great, and if I can help in any way
please let me know. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 3:29:15 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
Jeff
Sorry to hear about your Dad, it kinda makes you stop and think about life.
Glad to see he is doing ok. Looking at a Piet Fly-in in Carrollton next
Spring but nothing in concrete yet.
Barry Davis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jboatri@emory.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
Hey Gardiner,
Thanks for the info. I went to a Corvair College several years ago. It was a
blast. I had a couple of engines nearly all of Wm Wynne's parts and the
manual, but my plans changed when I got a great deal on the Pietenpol we're
flying now. All the engine stuff went to a friend on the field who plans to
put it in a Jodel D11. That project is on hold while he and his son develop
their Reno racing program (all on a shoestring).
Jeff
Quoting airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>:
>
> Jeff, I didn't make it either as it was too cold. I am flying to
> barnwell sc for th e corvair college on thursday for the weekend. Why
> don't you fly down there and see what corvairs are all about? There
> should be about 75 engines being built wi th the help of Wm. Wynne.
> Sorry to hear about your dad. Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jboatri@emory.edu" <jboatri@emory.edu>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 11:00:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
>
>
> Sorry I missed you at Peachstate. My dad had a major heart attack
> Friday afternoon, so I bombed out to Tulsa post haste. He's doing very
> well now. We're working hard to make his home "safe" for him and I
> should be back in ATL by the weekend.
>
> J
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Guy Looking for Info/Advise |
You need to talk to Scott Liefeld ( Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org ). He has a steel
tube fuselage and if I remember correctly, steel tail feathers. He has stressed
them more than most so I would trust his design.
3 piece wing will be more builder friendly but take a little longer to build and
weighs just slightly more. I would build a 1 piece if I had the room. Looks
cool.
1 or 2 inches in the nose will not change the flight characteristics but help with
the weight and balance. Given your size you need to watch the weight and
balance. It's not a big deal as others your size fly them just fine. I would
suggest you might want to think about make the fuselage deeper so you fit inside
it a little better. I'm on the tall side of 6-1 and I would like to be lower
in the fuselage.
Chris
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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Barry,
Thanks for the kind words. I'm up for a Piet fly-in, let me know if I
can help!
Jeff
Quoting Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com>:
>
> Jeff
> Sorry to hear about your Dad, it kinda makes you stop and think about life.
> Glad to see he is doing ok. Looking at a Piet Fly-in in Carrollton next
> Spring but nothing in concrete yet.
> Barry Davis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jboatri@emory.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:10 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
>
>
> Hey Gardiner,
>
> Thanks for the info. I went to a Corvair College several years ago. It was a
> blast. I had a couple of engines nearly all of Wm Wynne's parts and the
> manual, but my plans changed when I got a great deal on the Pietenpol we're
> flying now. All the engine stuff went to a friend on the field who plans to
> put it in a Jodel D11. That project is on hold while he and his son develop
> their Reno racing program (all on a shoestring).
>
> Jeff
>
> Quoting airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>:
>
>>
>> Jeff, I didn't make it either as it was too cold. I am flying to
>> barnwell sc for th e corvair college on thursday for the weekend. Why
>> don't you fly down there and see what corvairs are all about? There
>> should be about 75 engines being built wi th the help of Wm. Wynne.
>> Sorry to hear about your dad. Cheers, Gardiner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "jboatri@emory.edu" <jboatri@emory.edu>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 11:00:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Dreams
>>
>>
>> Sorry I missed you at Peachstate. My dad had a major heart attack
>> Friday afternoon, so I bombed out to Tulsa post haste. He's doing very
>> well now. We're working hard to make his home "safe" for him and I
>> should be back in ATL by the weekend.
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Old Kingsbury Aerodrome fly-in |
It's worth attending. A really nice operation. I'm going to try to get there
around 9.
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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