---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/11/10: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:12 AM - Please Support The Lists... (Matt Dralle) 1. 01:59 AM - Does life get any better? (bubbleboy) 2. 04:39 AM - Re: Does life get any better? (Tim Willis) 3. 05:48 AM - Heads (skellytown flyer) 4. 06:37 AM - Happy Veteran's Day (John Franklin) 5. 07:14 AM - Re: Happy Veteran's Day (Gboothe5) 6. 07:50 AM - Re: Happy Veteran's Day (Kringle) 7. 11:30 AM - Re: Happy Veteran's Day (K5YAC) 8. 01:17 PM - Re: Re: Happy Veteran's Day (Michael Perez) 9. 01:24 PM - Avionics package (bender) 10. 01:57 PM - Re: Avionics package (Dan Yocum) 11. 05:02 PM - 2 piets at breakfast this morning (shad bell) 12. 08:40 PM - Fuselage Sides (Mr. Craig) 13. 08:57 PM - Re: Fuselage Sides (Gary Boothe) 14. 09:25 PM - Re: Fuselage Sides (Mr. Craig) 15. 09:26 PM - Re: Fuselage Sides (Mr. Craig) 16. 10:48 PM - Big and Tall Steel Fuselage (Mr. Craig) 17. 11:52 PM - Re: Does life get any better? (bubbleboy) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:36 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Please Support The Lists... Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Does life get any better? From: "bubbleboy" Well the wife is away and the kids are in bed and after 3 or was it 6 glasses of wine I just built the other Elevator. Does life get any better? Thanks to everyone on here who has lent a helping hand or given some advice. God archive this if ya want! [Laughing] -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318956#318956 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:10 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Does life get any better? Scott, Take two aspirin, drink two cups of coffee, and check out the elevator and fingers in the cold harsh light of a new day. Bacchus is not the god of carpentry, mate ;) All in fun. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: bubbleboy >Sent: Nov 11, 2010 3:57 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Does life get any better? > > >Well the wife is away and the kids are in bed and after 3 or was it 6 glasses of wine I just built the other Elevator. Does life get any better? > >Thanks to everyone on here who has lent a helping hand or given some advice. > >God archive this if ya want! [Laughing] > >-------- >Scotty > >Tamworth, Australia >Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > >www.scottyspietenpol.com > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318956#318956 > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:14 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heads From: "skellytown flyer" I saw a Model A school bus being restored yesterday in Amarillo and the engine had a Miller Hi-speed head on it. I was wondering if anybody tried such a thing on their airplane. I expect it is too much extra weight. the thought of bolting such a big hunk of iron on the nose of a plane and it flying still amazes me. as does the thought that mr. Pietenpol did so much with so little. anyway it was an interesting piece of history. also saw a re-built Ford truck with 2 flathead V-8's in it that was specially built from the factory to haul sections of new B-24's to plants around the US for assembly including to Tulsa to where my Mom was inspecting parts of them.what amazing things they developed in such a short time.just another small portion of the great effort the country came together for during WW-2. Raymond do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318963#318963 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:04 AM PST US From: John Franklin Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy Veteran's Day ...to all you vets. Thanks for your service! I wasn't in the military but my Marine son arrived in Kandahar this past week for a 7-tour. God Bless our military! John F. Richmond, TX GN-1 / Corvair ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:06 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Happy Veteran's Day Best to your son, John. I also did not serve both my son and daughter a former Marines. Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Franklin Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy Veteran's Day ...to all you vets. Thanks for your service! I wasn't in the military but my Marine son arrived in Kandahar this past week for a 7-tour. God Bless our military! John F. Richmond, TX GN-1 / Corvair ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Happy Veteran's Day From: "Kringle" I served in the Navy back in the 70's. Was an AT (avionics technician) and a flight deck trouble shooter for a squadron attached to USS Enterprise. When it was time for me to get out the Captain offered me a tour of duty with the Blue Angels. I declined and went home. I still kick myself in the pants for not accepting that opportunity. But things went pretty well for as they are and now I'm building a pietenpol. Life is good. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318986#318986 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Happy Veteran's Day From: "K5YAC" Airborne... All The Way! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319028#319028 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:04 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Happy Veteran's Day I too was in the Navy as an Avionics Technician. I worked on board the USS GUAM during Operation desert Shield, Desert Storm and Operation Eastern Exit. I SALUTE all those whom have served and whom continue to do so! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Avionics package From: "bender" made some ebay purchases.... scored an altimeter from the 40's and a tach and an airspeed indicator that were supposed to be for a tiger moth... new in boxes.. the airspeed indicator has a 1931 manufacture date.. they look really groovy 18 ribs done since nov 1st picked up wood for the longerons today and tore down the A engine.. makin sawdust in louisville Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319049#319049 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gauge_120.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:11 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Avionics package Cool! What's the scale on the ASI? Multiply by 10? do not archive On 11/11/2010 03:22 PM, bender wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bender" > > made some ebay purchases.... scored an altimeter from the 40's > and a tach and an airspeed indicator that were supposed to be for a tiger moth... new in boxes.. the airspeed indicator has a 1931 manufacture date.. they look really groovy > > > 18 ribs done since nov 1st > picked up wood for the longerons today and tore down the A engine.. > > makin sawdust in louisville > Jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319049#319049 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/gauge_120.jpg > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:24 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2 piets at breakfast this morning Hello guys, I went and flew over to Mt Victory for breakfast today (35 degr ees, and 43 miles) and while finishing my coffee, a guy came up to the tabl e and asked who was driving the piet.- It was Mr Emo from New Carlisle, a nd he was out flying his dads old piet.- It seemed strange that 2 piets w ould meet up in the middle of November, in Ohio, And in the middle of nowhe re.- It was a beutiful morning for flying, smooth as glass, a little grou nd fog, and plenty of sunshine.- See the attatche pics. - Shad=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Sides From: "Mr. Craig" The 1932 Glider Manual shows the fuselage on the Air Camper as being 13' 5" long. When the sides are built flat and then bowed from front to rear, the fuselage will become shorter. How much longer does the upper and lower longerons need to be in order for the overall length to be correct after the sides are bent in? Thanks Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319079#319079 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:56 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Sides Craig, I remember that part of my project with fondness at the anticipation someday just being able to sit in my fuselage, but you are over thinking it. Just cut to length and bend them together. Mr. Pietenpol has already taken that in to account... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (22 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Craig Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Sides The 1932 Glider Manual shows the fuselage on the Air Camper as being 13' 5" long. When the sides are built flat and then bowed from front to rear, the fuselage will become shorter. How much longer does the upper and lower longerons need to be in order for the overall length to be correct after the sides are bent in? Thanks Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319079#319079 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Sides From: "Mr. Craig" gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote: > Craig, > > I remember that part of my project with fondness at the anticipation someday just being able to sit in my fuselage, but you are over thinking it. Just cut to length and bend them together. Mr. Pietenpol has already taken that in to account... > > Gary Boothe Hi Gary Not over thinking. Common drafting practice it to show the side view of an object in it's assembled form. The 1932 Air Camper drawings are in this fasion. They are not showing the fuselage side as a flat pattern. The dimensions shown are from face of firewall to back of stern post with both sides in their arched position. In order to get this dimension correct, the sides will need to be around 1" longer. If we build the sides 13' 5" flat and then bend them in the distance from firewall to stern post will be around 13' 4". Not a big deal, but the plans show 13' 5". Craig >From your reply, everyone must just build the sides 13' 5" and call it close enough? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319082#319082 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Sides From: "Mr. Craig" Mr. Craig wrote: > > gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Craig, > > > > I remember that part of my project with fondness at the anticipation someday just being able to sit in my fuselage, but you are over thinking it. Just cut to length and bend them together. Mr. Pietenpol has already taken that in to account... > > > > Gary Boothe > > > Hi Gary > > Not over thinking. Common drafting practice it to show the side view of an object in it's assembled form. The 1932 Air Camper drawings are in this fasion. They are not showing the fuselage side as a flat pattern. The dimensions shown are from face of firewall to back of stern post with both sides in their arched position. In order to get this dimension correct, the sides will need to be around 1" longer. If we build the sides 13' 5" flat and then bend them in the distance from firewall to stern post will be around 13' 4". Not a big deal, but the plans show 13' 5". > > From your reply, everyone must just build the sides 13' 5" and call it close enough? > > Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319084#319084 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:37 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big and Tall Steel Fuselage From: "Mr. Craig" While waiting on my plans to get here, I can't keep from thinking about this build. Putting everything together from Chris/Catdesigns' thoughts on making fuselage deeper and Andrew Pietenpol's suggestion to make fuselage 2" longer in the front and others emailing me saying 3" would be even better, I threw together this little sketch. I tried to keep basic lines the same so the alteration wouldn't be drastically noticeable. What do you guys think? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319087#319087 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bandtconcept_714.gif ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Does life get any better? From: "bubbleboy" Tim...checked it out this morning and its even straight! All fingers and thumbs accounted for! 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