---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/17/10: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:10 AM - What's My Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:43 AM - Fuel Starvation (Oscar Zuniga) 2. 06:01 AM - Fuel Starvation (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 06:10 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Michael Perez) 4. 06:23 AM - Starting Wood Landing Gear (Michael Perez) 5. 06:34 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Michael Perez) 6. 06:51 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Jack Phillips) 7. 06:52 AM - Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (TOM STINEMETZE) 8. 06:57 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Jack Phillips) 9. 07:46 AM - Re: Need to order steel (Gene Rambo) 10. 07:51 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Gene Rambo) 11. 08:07 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Michael Perez) 12. 09:29 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (BYD) 13. 09:54 AM - Re: Fuel Starvation (taildrags) 14. 11:12 AM - Westach EGT/CHT senders (Oscar Zuniga) 15. 11:43 AM - Tig welder question (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 16. 12:03 PM - Re: Fuel Starvation (Ben Charvet) 17. 12:47 PM - Re: Fuel Starvation (shad bell) 18. 02:01 PM - Re: Tig welder question (Jim Markle) 19. 03:05 PM - Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (Jerry Dotson) 20. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (Gboothe5) 21. 05:24 PM - Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (Jerry Dotson) 22. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (Gary Boothe) 23. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (Jim Boyer) 24. 06:09 PM - Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (coxwelljon) 25. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear (Gary Boothe) 26. 08:15 PM - Re: Tig welder question (Clayton Harper) 27. 10:04 PM - Corvair College 19 photos (Ryan Mueller) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:24 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: What's My Contribution Used For? 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Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:01 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation Michael; I had exactly the same situation come up on 41CC when I was doing the rebuild... with the fuselage (nose) fuel tank in place, it is extremely difficult to get cables or wires past it through the firewall. So even if you make a pretty layout of everything on the engine side of the firewall, it's rare that you'll actually be able to punch things through in those locations if you have a fuel tank in the nose. On my airplane, the toughest thing is the tach cable, which just squeezes by the side of the tank and has just barely enough length to get from the instrument to the engine. It will not tolerate anything other than very gentle bends in the cable. There are some pix here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/fueltank.html Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:23 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation Jeff wrote- >My main concern is fuel starvation in a nose up, take off attitude. And a good concern it is, too. >with a nose tank I'm unsure.- I have heard of cases where it has happened. That would be me ;o) Engine quit on rollout after a nice smooth 3-point landing after running down to minimum fuel... about 3 gal. left in my 16 gal. nose tank. Definitely, follow Hans' advice and run the setup with the tailwheel down in a hole to simulate a climb with a nose-high attitude. You can get an idea of the geometry on my firewall forward by looking at some of the pictures here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/engine.html >I'm using an A-65 with Stromberg. Same as my setup (except an A-75, but it's the same thing). >Does anyone have any comments on the subject of fuel pumps. None on my airplane; gravity feed only. >those who have two tanks, one in the wing and one in the nose, how do you >switch them?- Where is your valve mounted? One of the best setups I've seen is the one on Ernie Moreno's Piet. There are pix of his setup here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/piets3.html , photos 3, 5, and 10. >How many of you use a gascolator and is a pump necessary with that. Hopefully EVERYONE is using a gascolator! Obviously, no pump is necessary since I don't have one ;o) You need something at the lowest point in your fuel system to collect and drain any water or sediment that might get into the fuel system. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:33 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation Ah yes, the tach. cable. I was looking over my tank template just a little bit yesterday, (no time to work on anything) and realized that I have the o ption of running some wires outside the plywood sides, under the fabric as mentioned in another post. The tach. cable, (which I do not have, so I am n ot clear how stiff it is,) may need to have a more straight run. Since I am not sure what engine I will end up with,-I don't know where the tach. fi tting is going to be located on said engine. -So, I don't know where on t he firewall the cable will need to penetrate and where I need to make room for it around (through) the fuel tank.- - Anyhoo, steady as she goes...I'll figure it out over time. - - ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:39 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Starting Wood Landing Gear Thought I would take a moment to share with the list that I am working on m y wood landing gear and tail wheel. It became clear to me to start with the main wheels/axle on the main gear and also build the tail wheel. Once thos e are done, I can set up the fuselage at the proper angle/ride height and s tart fitting the wood struts. - I have been working on my wheel hub design for about two weeks and am now f abricating them. Buchanan's have been a great help with this and I will be getting my rims and spokes from them. My hubs incorporate the band style br akes and will-use 40 spoke rims. The hubs are a simple "spool" design wit h one-flange larger then the other on each, (for the brake drum). I also realized that-the gear-is one of the more heavier components on the ent ire plane and one of the most challenging, (rewarding), parts of the build. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:38 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation I am glad these conversations are out now, as I am designing my nose tank a t this time. - With the concern of fuel starvation during a climb attitude...why not have the tank sump nearer the rear of the tank? That being the low spot, it woul d always be filled when the nose is above horizontal...(?) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:40 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation There are right angle tach cable drives (which also can be used to reverse the direction the cable turns) which could be used to allow the cable to run outside the tank. The cable will have to be outside at some point, unless you make provisions to have a tube through your front seat passenger as well as the fuel tank, to allow passage of cables and wires. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation Ah yes, the tach. cable. I was looking over my tank template just a little bit yesterday, (no time to work on anything) and realized that I have the option of running some wires outside the plywood sides, under the fabric as mentioned in another post. The tach. cable, (which I do not have, so I am not clear how stiff it is,) may need to have a more straight run. Since I am not sure what engine I will end up with, I don't know where the tach. fitting is going to be located on said engine. So, I don't know where on the firewall the cable will need to penetrate and where I need to make room for it around (through) the fuel tank. Anyhoo, steady as she goes...I'll figure it out over time. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:31 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Starting Wood Landing Gear I will certainly echo that sentiment although my gear is of the split axle (Cub style) rather than the wood straight axle variety. I am losing a generous quantity of hair in certain places over this part of the build but I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'll post some photos soon. Stinemetze N328X >>> Michael Perez 11/17/2010 8:20 AM >>> I also realized that the gear is one of the more heavier components on the entire plane and one of the most challenging, (rewarding), parts of the build. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:05 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation The problem is not where the low spot is, the problem is having the top suface of the fuel in the tank lower than the carburetor in a steep climb. Even if it is slightly higher than the carburetor, with only an inch or two of head there may not be sufficient fuel flow to maintain full power. The pressure "head" is measured from the top surface of the fuel to the carburetor inlet. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation I am glad these conversations are out now, as I am designing my nose tank at this time. With the concern of fuel starvation during a climb attitude...why not have the tank sump nearer the rear of the tank? That being the low spot, it would always be filled when the nose is above horizontal...(?) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:58 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Need to order steel A couple of sources I have not seen referenced on here . . . EBAY has tons of sellers with very good prices on 4130 of all sizes and thicknesses. Also =2C McMaster Carr sells the stuff on its website=2C which is the most user- friendly and useful site I have ever seen. They ship same day and are alwa ys very helpful. Both have more than competitive prices. Gene Rambo rib stitching wing as we speak!! ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:00 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation You guys are overthinking all of this. Look at a Cub (and countless others ) and how low the fuel tank sits in relation to the engine/carburetor. Eve r heard of a Cub having fuel starvation problems?? It is OK to think about this stuff=2C but don't get too bogged down imagining or over-engineering for problems that may not exist. Gene do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:01 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation I have that right angle fitting. --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Jack Phillips wrote: From: Jack Phillips Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation There are right angle tach cable drives (which also can be used to reverse the direction the cable turns) which could be used to allow the cable to ru n outside the tank.- The cable will have to be outside at some point, unl ess you make provisions to have a tube through your front seat passenger as well as the fuel tank, to allow passage of cables and wires. - Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC - From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation - Ah yes, the tach. cable. I was looking over my tank template just a little bit yesterday, (no time to work on anything) and realized that I have the o ption of running some wires outside the plywood sides, under the fabric as mentioned in another post. The tach. cable, (which I do not have, so I am n ot clear how stiff it is,) may need to have a more straight run. Since I am not sure what engine I will end up with,-I don't know where the tach. fi tting is going to be located on said engine. -So, I don't know where on t he firewall the cable will need to penetrate and where I need to make room for it around (through) the fuel tank.- - Anyhoo, steady as she goes...I'll figure it out over time. - - - -www.buildersbooks.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpo l-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuel Starvation From: "BYD" Not necessary to actually run the engine for the flow tests. During these tests is a good opportunity to calibrate and mark your level indicator(s) also. AC 90-89A (Amateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight Testing) section 10 gives good directions for fuel flow testing and FAR 23.955 (for certified aircraft) has good standards to shoot for: (b) Gravity systems. The fuel flow rate for gravity systems (main and reserve supply) must be 150 percent of the takeoff fuel consumption of the engine. This flow must-- (1) Be shown with the airplane in the most adverse fuel feed condition (with respect to altitudes, attitudes, and other conditions) that is expected in operation; and (2) Be automatically uninterrupted with respect to any engine until all fuel scheduled for use by the engine has been consumed. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319797#319797 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuel Starvation From: "taildrags" Gene brings up an excellent point... examine systems that are proven to work (as is the J-3) and emulate that setup. Well worth studying the geometry of the Cub setup... the carb, gascolator, and fuel tank positions relative to one another.... copy that setup and no calculations or engineering will be necessary. However, not even Mr. Taylor nor Mr. Piper can suspend the law of gravity, nor do they trump Archimedes' principles. The relative levels of the fuel in the tank and the float in the carb have to provide sufficient gravity head to flow fuel from one to the other or you'll need a pump. Stuff don't flow uphill on its own ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319800#319800 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:28 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Westach EGT/CHT senders I'm looking for a set of four EGT probes and four CHT thermocouples for 18mm spark plugs=2C plus 4-position selector switches for them=2C to go with a combo Westach EGT/CHT gauge. Please reply off list=3B thanks. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:30 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tig welder question I have put together a dry rig Tig welder, it works well with the exception of light gauge aluminum. Because its a makeshift machine I don't have a pedal heat control. Anyone have any ideas as to how to add a foot pedal to the unit, its not designed for one so its going to have to be a creative detailed method as being suggested ,designs, drawings, suggestions anything? Do not archive Thanks John ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:35 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation I used a cub tank in mine. It fit perfect. I did a fuel flow test by dropping the tailwheel in a ditch, and timing the fuel as it came out the end of the fuel hose where it attaches to the carb, held at the same height as the carb. I had adequate flow right up to the last quart, giving me 11.75 gal usable. Thats enough for longer than I'd ever want to fly non stop! Ben On 11/17/2010 10:48 AM, Gene Rambo wrote: > You guys are overthinking all of this. Look at a Cub (and countless > others) and how low the fuel tank sits in relation to the > engine/carburetor. Ever heard of a Cub having fuel starvation > problems?? It is OK to think about this stuff, but don't get too > bogged down imagining or over-engineering for problems that may not exist. > > Gene > do not archive > > * > > * ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:47:14 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Starvation Mount the tach on the top of the cowling, and see if you can find one with really big numbers on it, short cable, simple hook up and all, just like th e ford tri-moter. - - Jusk kidding ya, Shad - You might be able to find a tach generator, then you only need to run 2 sma ll wires instead of a flex drive, you would need a compatable tach though. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:01:18 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tig welder question Hey John, Google the model number of your welder and "diy"....if someone has done it, Google will find it! I googled "water cooler" for my TIG machine and came up with a lot of good, inexpensive ideas.... Then I did the mandatory "weld two aluminum cans together"....worked well, remind me to show you next time you're in town. Or just bring your stuff over and use my machine... jm -----Original Message----- From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Nov 17, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tig welder question I have put together a dry rig Tig welder, it works well with the exception of light gauge aluminum. Because its a makeshift machine I don't have a pedal heat control. Anyone have any ideas as to how to add a foot pedal to the unit, its not designed for one so its going to have to be a creative detailed method as being suggested ,designs, drawings, suggestions anything? Do not archive Thanks John ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:27 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear From: "Jerry Dotson" Yessiree it is challenging and time consuming. All is well that ends well. I am now working on the axle,brakes and the like. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319836#319836 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00378_969.jpg ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:33:37 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Jerry, Your gear looks great! I am playing with an idea to pad my axle with some stuff used to pad horse stalls (see attached). I have a lifetime supply and would be happy to cut some strips for you, or anyone else who may be interested. Gary Boothe -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Yessiree it is challenging and time consuming. All is well that ends well. I am now working on the axle,brakes and the like. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319836#319836 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00378_969.jpg ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear From: "Jerry Dotson" Thanks Gary I would like to have a piece. My axle will be very similar to yours. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319858#319858 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:25 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear You got it! I haven't figured out an elegant way of attaching them, but haven't expended any gray cells, either. Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Thanks Gary I would like to have a piece. My axle will be very similar to yours. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319858#319858 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:18 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Gary you had me worried there for a minute with the horse product for padding your landing gear. That stuff looks like what my daughters horse barn uses for mats under the spots where they groom the horses before and after riding. Jim PS Did you get the last message/photo I sent? Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gboothe5" Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:26:38 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Jerry, Your gear looks great! I am playing with an idea to pad my axle with some stuff used to pad horse stalls (see attached). I have a lifetime supply and would be happy to cut some strips for you, or anyone else who may be interested. Gary Boothe -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Yessiree it is challenging and time consuming. All is well that ends well. I am now working on the axle,brakes and the like. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319836#319836 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00378_969.jpg ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear From: "coxwelljon" I think anyone in the landing gear process would do well to read the recent article by William Wynn in the latest Broadhead Pietenpol Assoc. newsletter. This year at Broadhead WW began gathering data on weight and balance and gear locations on a variety of Piets. His first article on this subject appears in the current newsletter and he has some good thoughts on landing gear placement. After having read what he has to say I will be checking out my gear placement on the GN-1 before covering the fuselage. -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319867#319867 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:58 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear That's exactly what it is, Jim!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Gary you had me worried there for a minute with the horse product for padding your landing gear. That stuff looks like what my daughters horse barn uses for mats under the spots where they groom the horses before and after riding. Jim PS Did you get the last message/photo I sent? Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gboothe5" Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:26:38 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Jerry, Your gear looks great! I am playing with an idea to pad my axle with some stuff used to pad horse stalls (see attached). I have a lifetime supply and would be happy to cut some strips for you, or anyone else who may be interested. Gary Boothe -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting Wood Landing Gear Yessiree it is challenging and time consuming. All is well that ends well. I am now working on the axle,brakes and the like. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319836#319836 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00378_969.jpg ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tig welder question From: "Clayton Harper" A better test is to run a nice bead on 1/8" alum. Need an AC machine. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319880#319880 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:10 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair College 19 photos From: Ryan Mueller William Wynne (well, Grace most likely) has uploaded photos from the recent Corvair College #19 at Barnwell Regional Airport in Barnwell, SC (looks like a really neat airport). There are a few photos of Gardiner's Piet with his sharp new cowling, PF Beck's Piet, and Randy Bush running his new engine. Definitely worth a look: http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.