---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/26/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:40 AM - N13691 Question Thread (Mr. Craig) 2. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things) (gliderx5@comcast.net) 3. 07:03 AM - Behr Paint (Charles Campbell) 4. 08:12 AM - Re: Behr Paint (Ben Charvet) 5. 08:19 AM - Re: N13691 Question Thread (Baldeagle) 6. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: N13691 Question Thread (Ryan Mueller) 7. 10:26 AM - Re: Behr Paint (at7000ft) 8. 12:49 PM - More progress (Dangerous Dave) 9. 01:25 PM - Re: More progress (Harvey Rule) 10. 01:29 PM - Dave's Pietenpol progress photos (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 11. 04:57 PM - Re: More progress (helspersew@aol.com) 12. 05:19 PM - Re: More progress (Dangerous Dave) 13. 08:27 PM - Re: Dave's Pietenpol progress photos (Jeff Boatright) 14. 08:43 PM - Cleaning the shop (amsafetyc@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: N13691 Question Thread From: "Mr. Craig" I'm wanting my build to have the same appearance as Allen Rudolf's N13691 Air Camper. I have lots of questions concerning various aspects of this aircraft. Has anyone here taken measurements of this aircraft? If so, is the distance from firewall to center of front cabane strut bolt 12 1/2" or 14 1/2"? Or something else? Is wing built according to the 1932 FGM dimensions or of the 1934 "Improved" Air Camper? Does it have the 1932 square horizontal stabilizer or the later one that is narrower in the front? Does anyone have any pictures of it with the cowl off? Or close up pictures of the magneto mount and radiator mount area? More questions later. :D Thanks Craig -------- A goal without a plan is nothing more than a wish. -- orion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321069#321069 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:59 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things) Rick, I'm almost at the same point. Brodhead 2011 would be quite a challenge, but I would give me something to shoot for. 700 miles from PA. I'll see you th ere! Malcolm Morrison ----- Original Message ----- From: "at7000ft" Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:48:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex aplication (paint, not the other things) [quote="RBush96589(at)aol.com"]Rick your plane is looking great. are you going to be able to fly it to Brodhead this year? do not archive =C3=AF=C2=C2=BD =C3=AF=C2=C2=BD =C3=AF=C2=C2=BD =C3 =AF=C2=C2=BD Randy Bush NX294RB > [b] Thanks Randy, I guess the only things standing between me and flying to Bro adhead is covering and painting two wings, flying off 40 hours, and getting the cahones to do an 820 mile cross country from Denver. rick -------- Rick Holland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321064#321064 =========== =========== =========== =========== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:20 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Behr Paint Ben, I need to go by Home Depot today or tomorrow and thought I would check out the paint. Any particular TYPE I should look for or just latex primer and exterior paint? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:13 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Behr Paint the one I bought had a test panel on the shelf. It was a real nice red, and the test panel had a nice gloss to it. I think it was around $27. Unfortunately the can is out at my hangar. I only used less than one gallon for my fuselage and vertical stab, sprayed with an HVLP gun. I used some flat Sherwin Williams gray for a base coat to fill the fabric, 2 coats brushed in opposite directions Ben On 11/26/2010 9:59 AM, Charles Campbell wrote: > Ben, I need to go by Home Depot today or tomorrow and thought I would > check out the paint. Any particular TYPE I should look for or just > latex primer and exterior paint? > * > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:49 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N13691 Question Thread From: "Baldeagle" Can't answer all those, but here's a photo of it under a shade tree in Indiana after we pulled the engine to fix a cracked magneto mount, July 2009 No detail, but a photo of it the next day in a bean field in Illinois with a broken crankshaft... And Jack McCarthy's old engine going in July 2010 Others here can probably answer the questions, or you might have to get a hold of Frank Pavliga for measurements. - Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321091#321091 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N13691 Question Thread From: "Ryan Mueller" I might have the measurement he's looking for from the Piet W&B data we collected at Brodhead this year. Travelling to visit family at the moment, I'll check later. ------Original Message------ From: Baldeagle Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol List Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N13691 Question Thread Sent: Nov 26, 2010 10:17 AM Can't answer all those, but here's a photo of it under a shade tree in Indiana after we pulled the engine to fix a cracked magneto mount, July 2009 No detail, but a photo of it the next day in a bean field in Illinois with a broken crankshaft... And Jack McCarthy's old engine going in July 2010 Others here can probably answer the questions, or you might have to get a hold of Frank Pavliga for measurements. - Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321091#321091 Ryan Mueller ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Behr Paint From: "at7000ft" [quote="cncampbell(at)windstream."]Ben, I need to go by Home Depot today or tomorrow and thought I would check out the paint. Any particular TYPE I should look for or just latex primer and exterior paint? > [b] Will need to decide if you want your finish coat flat, stain, semi-gloss, gloss, or high gloss and yes you want exterior. I used Satin to get a vintage dope finish look. Also most manufacturers have 4 or 5 quality levels from cheap to expensive, I went with one level below the expensive stuff. Its easy to fork over $100 for a couple gallons of paint when you think about the $2500 you are saving over a full PolyFiber job. rick -------- Rick Holland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321094#321094 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: More progress From: "Dangerous Dave" Howdy,Hope everyone had a good turkey day.Heres some pics of where I am at now.Dave -------- Building a Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321100#321100 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_08_22_10_356_204.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_13_15_59_866_443.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_13_02_50_88_831.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:28 PM PST US From: Harvey Rule Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: More progress Holy smokes man!Put some skin and engine on that and your ready ta go!!!Loo kin good. do not archive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: More progress > From: dsornbor@aol.com > Date: Fri=2C 26 Nov 2010 12:46:40 -0800 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Howdy=2CHope everyone had a good turkey day.Heres some pics of where I am at now.Dave > > -------- > Building a Piet > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321100#321100 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_08_22_10_356_204.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_13_15_59_866_443.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_13_02_50_88_831.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:29:15 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dave's Pietenpol progress photos Your plane is looking really good Dave, thank you for sharing those photos. It looks as though you might be able to begin varnishing and fabric coming in 2011 even which his really commendable and you've stuck with the project quite a long, long way. You even look the part of a 1930's pilot with your beard, helmet, goggles, and the Stroh's brew can sitting far off in the background on one of your work tables. Good man. Great to see another Pietenpol getting birthed out of another quiet workshop where these amazing little fun wood, metal, and fabric planes are manufactured one by one all across this country and elsewhere around the world. You're doing a great job. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: More progress From: helspersew@aol.com Hi Dave, Very nice work. Very exciting time for you as it all comes together.....fin ally. Looks like you are on track for Brodhead '11. See you there? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Dangerous Dave Sent: Fri, Nov 26, 2010 2:49 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: More progress Howdy,Hope everyone had a good turkey day.Heres some pics of where I am at ow.Dave -------- uilding a Piet ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321100#321100 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_08_22_10_356_204.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_13_15_59_866_443.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_11_26_13_02_50_88_831.jpg -======================== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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I see the PBR, which is old school enough, but where's the Stroh's?? >(GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" > >... and the Stroh's >brew can sitting far off in the background on one of your work >tables. Good man. Do not archive -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:20 PM PST US From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cleaning the shop Well had a good day today cleaned up some and couldn't resist making more saw dust. Actually got the tail wheel mounted it doesn't look bad. I like seeing it there. makes me can't wait to get the mains mounted up under her. Its a bit premature for buildapalooza but it sure feels good Do not archive John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.